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57plymouth
Posted 2007-11-20 7:31 AM (#103964 - in reply to #93159)
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Neil whined and moaned about cruising in Tulsa, and then never moved his car!! Don't worry about Neil wanting to cruise in Vegas. It won't happen.

I must admit guys, I don't know if I can make Vegas. It's about 2200 miles each way. That would be pretty tough on the 57, and I'm not sure I want to try towing again. It would take 4 1/2 days to drive each way in the 57. That's driving 10 hours each day with an average time of 50 mph. That's about the reasonable average speed of my car.





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Nathan D. Manning
Posted 2007-11-20 11:48 AM (#103974 - in reply to #103964)
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57plymouth - 2007-11-20 7:31 AM

Neil whined and moaned about cruising in Tulsa, and then never moved his car!! Don't worry about Neil wanting to cruise in Vegas. It won't happen.

I must admit guys, I don't know if I can make Vegas. It's about 2200 miles each way. That would be pretty tough on the 57, and I'm not sure I want to try towing again. It would take 4 1/2 days to drive each way in the 57. That's driving 10 hours each day with an average time of 50 mph. That's about the reasonable average speed of my car.


I don't like Vegas much either, Brain... It's just about the same distance for me, too.
If this DOES materialize, I'd have to fly in to be a part of this reunion.

Do I wanna see Vegas? Hell Yeah... Do I wanna DRIVE there for the FL Reunion? Not a chance!

My initial vote was for '57 Heaven in Branson, MO... but nobody seems to like that idea anymore.
So, Vegas it is... I suppose.

-NM

Edited by Nathan D. Manning 2007-11-20 11:50 AM
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57plymouth
Posted 2007-11-20 11:54 AM (#103976 - in reply to #103974)
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I'm in for Branson. I can't spend almost 10 days driving for the reunion. Even if I were to leave the 57 at home, it's still at least 6 days of driving for Vegas.

I like you guys, but not nearly that much.
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Nathan D. Manning
Posted 2007-11-20 11:56 AM (#103977 - in reply to #103976)
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57plymouth - 2007-11-20 11:54 AM

I'm in for Branson. I can't spend almost 10 days driving for the reunion. Even if I were to leave the 57 at home, it's still at least 6 days of driving for Vegas.

I like you guys, but not nearly that much.


I started another poll, Brain...
http://forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=17334&post...

-NM

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wbower3
Posted 2007-11-20 2:59 PM (#103990 - in reply to #93159)
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Hey Guys, I've been to Tulsa, I've been to Branson (more than I ever thought any sane person would want to go, but that was 40 years ago) Ive been to Toopeeka,KS frequently also. So any where in the Midwest/Central US of A should work. The one drawback when compared to Lost Wages is that there are only Indian Tribal Casinos in this part of the world, and the don't have the fancy floorshows. Just lots of slotmachines and antique malls.

Why doesn't somebody make a decision. It sounds like Jay is doing lots of leg work in L.V.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2007-11-23 4:10 PM (#104318 - in reply to #103990)
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Sorry to join this so late. Neil just asked me if I was attending. Attending ? I didn't even know it was happening !

Is there a reason behind Vegas, as opposed to say, Albuquerque ? Driving Central Ave. (old 66) is a real time trip.

How about Chama, NM, where the old Rio Grande steam trains still run ? Incorporate something cool and old besides a giant FL car show ? A small venue may prove very accomodating to a tourista influx like this.

Vegas will be hot as hell. Personally, I am repelled by all the new and flash. Gambling is of no interest. Why Vegas ? At least Reno is close to the mountains and Tahoe. Both seem too far west for our east coasters anyway.

I am afraid I couldn't make it of held before August due to prior commitments, but it sure does sound like a great idea. Just imagine, a car gathering not involving street rods or Chevs ! Sweet !
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Kenny J.
Posted 2007-11-23 11:35 PM (#104361 - in reply to #104318)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2007-11-23 1:10 PM


Vegas will be hot as hell. Personally, I am repelled by all the new and flash. Gambling is of no interest. Why Vegas ? At least Reno is close to the mountains and Tahoe.



Las Vegas is completely surrounded by mountains........and Lake Mead is nearby.

Boulder City is quaint in a 1930s sort of way and Mt. Charleston stays relatively cool year 'round.

It doesn't matter to me where y'all have the reunion, but I did want to set the record straight.

K.
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58-Savoy
Posted 2007-11-24 12:37 AM (#104364 - in reply to #104361)
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There are lots of places for cruises outside the city and to get away from Heat and traffic. Scenic routes up to Mt. Charleston and through Red Rock canyon. Lake Mead and the Hoover Dam are 20 minutes away.

For the folks on the East Coast.... This could be a nice opportunity to try and find some hidden Southwest rust free forwardlook treasures.
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d500neil
Posted 2007-11-24 12:39 AM (#104366 - in reply to #104361)
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Reno is about the same distance from bishop, as is Vegas, 4 driving hours.

Reno is a GAMBLING town--no kids allowed.

VEGAS is like 24/7 Mardi Gras (at least: Glitter Gulch/old town is; the Biggies-section of the Strip
is like Disneyland, or OZ) .

I spent 3 driving days to get to Tulsa; why wouldn't I drive to Vegas (Brian?) . I didn't drive around Tulsa BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE TO: I stayed @ the Doubletree (remember? where I advised everybody to stay; not 50 miles away, in Stroud).

Same thing with Vegas: once you're there (flying in; cheaper & infinitely quicker than gas and-motels- on-the-road) you'll probably stay close to the 'Gulch', or, you can take public transportation (Mono-Rail, shuttle-trams or cabs or even a rental car anywhere
around town, or the area (like to Hoover Dam).

Either you like partying, or you don't.

IF you like partying, you can not beat the Vegas experience (except possibly at Mardi Gras).






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58-Savoy
Posted 2007-11-24 12:57 AM (#104367 - in reply to #104366)
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d500neil - 2007-11-23 9:39 PM

Reno is about the same distance from bishop, as is Vegas, 4 driving hours.

Reno is a GAMBLING town--no kids allowed.

VEGAS is like 24/7 Mardi Gras (at least: Glitter Gulch/old town is; the Biggies-section of the Strip
is like Disneyland, or OZ) .

I spent 3 driving days to get to Tulsa; why wouldn't I drive to Vegas (Brian?) . I didn't drive around Tulsa BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE TO: I stayed @ the Doubletree (remember? where I advised everybody to stay; not 50 miles away, in Stroud).

Same thing with Vegas: once you're there (flying in; cheaper & infinitely quicker than gas and-motels- on-the-road) you'll probably stay close to the 'Gulch', or, you can take public transportation (Mono-Rail, shuttle-trams or cabs or even a rental car anywhere
around town, or the area (like to Hoover Dam).

Either you like partying, or you don't.

IF you like partying, you can not beat the Vegas experience (except possibly at Mardi Gras).



The public transportation is pretty good downtown. While the Mono-Rail kinda flopped, it will only help you out while visiting "New Vegas" where all the new casinos are. Taxis can get pretty expensive but are readily available downtown. The best public transportation between new vegas and "glitter gulch" is the Deuce, a double decker bus. The cost to ride is $2 or you can get a pass for a day or two if you wanted to travel up and down the strip to check out the locations.

Just about every casino on the new part of the strip has a free show. Bellagio has a water show, Mirage has a volcano and a shark reef aquarium inside (costs a few bucks). Some of the more popular ones are Treasure Island with the pirate show, with women actors now instead of men .

Fremont street (Glitter Gulch), like Kenny said is now a pathway under a canopy. The canopy is the world's largest LED screen, spanning about three blocks. A cool thing to see for first time visitors.

For people interested in gambling, I would recommend hitting local casinos away from the Strip. That is if you want to significantly increase your odds of walking out of the casino with more money than you went in with.

Again, like Kenny said, Vegas isn't all about gambling and prostitution. There are lots of things to do and places to meet up.
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narleycharlie
Posted 2007-11-24 2:27 AM (#104370 - in reply to #93159)
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I dont know , a gathering/ reunion isn t much fun Ifn you don t bring your car . Theres always Mardi Gras in Feb or March , down here but thats still way out of the way for most people . Down here , there is always a cruise nite somewhere within 20 to 50 miles year round . And then in Oct , ther is Crusin the Coast , with any where from 4000 to 6000 cars attending which is week long , 2 to 3 days from westcoast , 10 to 12 hrs from eastcoast/Carolinas I got connections and could arrange some stuff to do . Weather down here is mild in the fall and winter , compared to what some of you guys go thru up north . Just an idea to ponder . I ve read most of these posts , and from the sounds of it ya ll are set on these hot months to travel , all these old cars can t handle the heat of all day driving at interstate speeds , wouldn t it make sense to do this in a cooler time of the year like Fall . I didn t make it to Tulsa , but I m determined to put faces with these names . Hopefully I can meet some of you that make me feel tame , that ll be hard to do . I say leave all the wives home , they ll throw a Monkey wrench into the mix , Well the little thing I took to help me slleep iss kiking in , gotta go dodo .

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Kenny J.
Posted 2007-11-24 6:09 AM (#104375 - in reply to #104370)
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narleycharlie - 2007-11-23 11:27 PM

........ all these old cars can't handle the heat of all day driving at interstate speeds , wouldn t it make sense to do this in a cooler time of the year like Fall......



Fall is great in Las Vegas, except you may encounter road salt usage in mountain passes along I-70, I-15 and I-80 in various locations, i.e., Colorado, Utah, Idaho.

I'd like to know why (unless you have an extremely geared down differential) "these old cars can't handle the heat of all day driving at interstate speeds"?

I could hold my 283 '59 Impala all day at 70-75 during summer treks up to Salt Lake City or down to Southern California on I-15, through the mountains, etc. I found stop and go summer rush hour traffic with the A/C on to cause the older engines to run warmer than usual. Not overheat.

The only older vehicle I had that didn't "like" sustained high speed driving was my '68 3/4 ton C-20 pickup. But with a SBC, 4.56 gears and A/C, a steady 75 mph was Hell on that engine.

K.

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58-Savoy
Posted 2007-11-24 7:24 AM (#104377 - in reply to #104375)
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Back in July when it was 116 degrees outside I was driving my 66 Chrysler 300 383ci with the A/C crankin the whole time. The car stayed nice and cool while driving and ran a little warm while stopped at a light or in traffic. I have also drove several 60's era fords in the same weather conditions. As long as the car is moving and air being forced through the radiator any car with a standard cooling system should do fine. It's the stop and go traffic that seems to give the cooling system problems. Here in the desert it's an easy fix most of the time, a fan shroud and an overflow bottle. If it is still running warm we just pull the thermostat out during the summer months.
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Kenny J.
Posted 2007-11-24 9:46 AM (#104386 - in reply to #104377)
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I have never had to pull the thermostat, Gary.

As you said, it's stop and go driving, And at night, even that is a non-issue.

K.
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narleycharlie
Posted 2007-11-24 10:36 AM (#104388 - in reply to #93159)
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Kenny , what I was refering to , is the fact that not everyone 's cooling system is up to par . Some people just have to plunk down the cash , others can t figure out what the problem is . My engine is rebuilt , my cooling system works fine , average 180-195 with no a/c . I know guys with pristine cars with cooling issues . And I was basing that on the way the the LV heat is talked about , 100 deg plus . You mentioned road salt in the fall , yikes. Currently I m running 3:54 gear , but for a long trip I d swap in a 2:76 .
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Kenny J.
Posted 2007-11-24 10:07 PM (#104459 - in reply to #104388)
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I've heard that some of the Mopar engines from this era were assembled at the factory with a lot of casting sand left in their blocks. I don't know if that is true, but if so, it may contribute to running hot in an extreme desert climate. I would think a rebuilt engine's block would have been cleaned well enough to eliminate this problem.

Also, an engine bored to the extreme limits may run considerably warmer in our climate than elsewhere. Thin wall SBCs tend to run warm in our climate if they are more than .030 over and the cooling system isn't perfect.

K.
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Kenny J.
Posted 2007-11-24 10:24 PM (#104465 - in reply to #104459)
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As for the salt......not in Las Vegas, though some morons throw water softener salt into low spots in parking lots where water collects during winter (which virtually everybody swerves around.) The city and county don't use salt, though some well meaning citizens have tried to salt the occasionally icy intersection.

I meant in fall, when various mountain passes start having snow and freezing rain at higher elevations. This would be on the way to Las Vegas during late autumn.

As for Nevada, a state trooper told me they use road salt in the Reno-Carson City-Sparks area during winter.

K.
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1955Coronado
Posted 2007-12-08 2:22 PM (#106465 - in reply to #103898)
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jsrail - 2007-11-19 4:16 PM

I'm using a 15 room/car figure right now trying to get some room rates and such.  I think once we get feedback from Nathan's poll, we can start to get things a little more formalized.


I'll have to gleefully decline on the reunion now, Jay - but it's for a darn good cause.

Gotta dive right into saving every penny I can lay my hands on now. John ("big m" here) rescued - among 4 other DeSotos - a 1955 DeSoto Fireflite Coronado 4 door sedan last month and every spare cent I grab is now going towards it!!! God-willing, I'll have her by this time next year/early-mid 2009, all set to dive in head-first.

So, I guess could say I'm pausing for the cause - a 52 year old turquoise/black/white, 126" wheelbase cause.

Guess it's about time to change my moniker - wish me luck, folks.....
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jsrail
Posted 2007-12-08 9:03 PM (#106496 - in reply to #106465)
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No problem Mark.  Sounds like you've got a good cause going there.  Does it run?  Got pics?  Is that one of those John posted not too long back?  Can't remember the thread.  You can't go wrong dealing with John, he'll do ya right.  We'll see ya in 2009 then.  And hey, doesn't mean you can't make it over to Scottsdale and BS sometime.
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1955Coronado
Posted 2007-12-08 9:18 PM (#106498 - in reply to #106496)
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jsrail - 2007-12-08 7:03 PM

No problem Mark.  Sounds like you've got a good cause going there.  Does it run?  Got pics?  Is that one of those John posted not too long back?  Can't remember the thread.  You can't go wrong dealing with John, he'll do ya right.  We'll see ya in 2009 then.  And hey, doesn't mean you can't make it over to Scottsdale and BS sometime.


A hell of a good cause, Jay.

Yeah, it's one of the 5 DeSotos that John swooped in and rescued last month. He says the engine turns, but it's not running yet. Apparently, the old guy that passed had had the original 291 cid Hemi rebuilt, then lost his driving ability shortly after. Here's some pics that John took - first two are on the trailer fresh from Oregon, last two are the day after when he washed her off. Unbelieveable! John says all the chrome and brightwork is pit free and excellent - she's a real beaut! :



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57PlymouthNC
Posted 2010-06-17 2:51 AM (#228211 - in reply to #93159)
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Hi All.
I was cruising the Tulsarama threads to see if anything ever happened re a reunion. Found this thread--- maybe there's a more updated one? What's the latest on any kind of Tulsarama or Forward Look reunion?
I still think about what a ~great~ time I had at Tulsarama......boy is it hard to explain that one to people who really don't get the whole "old car thing", much less the Buried Belvedere Unearthing.... . People just kinda glaze over and go "uh, yeah, huh...sounds uh, like fun".

Anyone still considering a big Vegas (or elsewhere) get-together? I was so close to attending Viva Las Vegas 13, this past April, but elected to go to a different weekend event that was scheduled for the same weekend. I'm pretty settled on going to Viva Las Vegas 14.......huuuuuuuge rockabilly, music, rat rod, hot rod, kustom, etc weekend. Jerry Lee Lewis is playing....God willing.
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59savoy
Posted 2010-06-17 2:32 PM (#228256 - in reply to #228211)
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here's a crazy thought...

have one in vegas, one in chicago, one in san antonio, and one in durham.  then a couple of years down the road, meet up in tulsa again!  or branson, or whatever.

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d500neil
Posted 2010-06-17 7:23 PM (#228303 - in reply to #228256)
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Hey, Dave!

Too bad Ms. Belvie isn't enshrined in T-Town.

Wonder if we could get any Europeans to come? They don't like to drink, too much , but they can get D & D, back at home.

Gotta find a gud reason to get them to hop onto the Mayflower or the Norseman or even the MS Athena (nee: Stockholm)
and get their (huddled-m)asses over here.












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jsrail
Posted 2010-06-17 8:02 PM (#228321 - in reply to #228303)
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It would have to be Las Vegas if it was to be this year for me.  Gotta spend money going to the Hudson Nationals this year in Spokane, WA and Disneyland for our son.  That really has blown our vacation budget out the windows!

Jay

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