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teisco
Posted 2007-09-23 10:25 AM (#97560)
Subject: 56 Belvamino?


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I have a 56 four door that I am going to do something with, maybe make a Belamino. I am from the 50's and been cutting up perfectly good four doors for years so please don't flame me for that. This car is a rusty, dented Iowa product so anything will be an improvement.

The deal is I like the front end and the rear end but not the middle. I need to do somethig so any ideas are very welcome.

Here is a photoshoped image of some of my ideas.



Edited by teisco 2007-09-23 10:31 AM




(56 ply sport truck short pipes.jpg)



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Kenny J.
Posted 2007-09-23 10:40 AM (#97561 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: RE: 56 Belvamino?



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Four door, two door, it's you're ride and you don't have to justify anything you do!

I prefer the roof line in the upper image. I find it refreshing and keeping with the Forward Look style. I have a '59 El Camino and while its roof line was based on Chevrolet's four door hardtop roof line, it was unique. (I have a '59 Impala four door hardtop, too! )

Why not post this as a poll and see the responses you receive?

K.

P.S.- You may want to get emblems from a mid '50s Mopar Australian Ute rather than call it a Belvamino.
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Resurrector
Posted 2007-09-23 11:11 AM (#97563 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: RE: 56 Belvamino?


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Welcome to the site! I love the first pic...it's wierd, I just finished a drawing of what a 57 would look like, as I've toyed with this idea as well. I say do it, it looks awesome! Sorry I stretched out this thread, I couldn't figure out how to get it any smaller.

Edited by 58dodgeregent 2007-09-23 11:16 AM




(scan of el diablo.jpg)



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chrycopsycho
Posted 2007-09-23 11:22 AM (#97567 - in reply to #97563)
Subject: RE: 56 Belvamino?



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Location: Comox,British Columbia		I agree with kenny I like the first version,has better roofline and flow to it.
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roadkillontheweb
Posted 2007-09-23 12:38 PM (#97570 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: RE: 56 Belvamino?



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Location: Iowa USA		I like the AP1 Chrysler UTE also that is in the first picture

The second picture is more like the earlier version UTE like my cars



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Rebels-59
Posted 2007-09-23 12:38 PM (#97571 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: Re: 56 Belvamino?



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roadkillontheweb
Posted 2007-09-23 12:41 PM (#97574 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: Re: 56 Belvamino?



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narleycharlie
Posted 2007-09-23 12:53 PM (#97575 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: Re: 56 Belvamino?


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chrycopsycho
Posted 2007-09-23 1:52 PM (#97585 - in reply to #97575)
Subject: Re: 56 Belvamino?



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Location: Comox,British Columbia		You know that is a great project and is sure to inspire others as how many hotrodders and others pass on 55-56 4drs which eventually go to the crusher.Its got me looking at the potential for these vehicles!
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teisco
Posted 2007-09-23 1:39 PM (#97581 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: RE: 56 Belvamino?


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I am from Cedar Rapids Iowa, to answer the gentelman from Iowa inquiry.

Wow, I did not know about the UTE or the Wayfairer, very cool!! I am not sure this is the direction I will take but it is fun to speculate and now I found this great forum where I am learning a ton of thngs such as the UTE. I also have a 2 door hardtop 55 located that I could use the top and the doors so there is that option also.



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roadkillontheweb
Posted 2007-09-23 1:45 PM (#97582 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: RE: 56 Belvamino?



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Location: Iowa USA		If you get down in the Des Moines area? stop on in and take a look at my UTEs. They are also based on a four door platform!


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Mopar1
Posted 2007-09-23 3:22 PM (#97605 - in reply to #97582)
Subject: RE: 56 Belvamino?



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roadkillontheweb - 2007-09-23 12:45 PM

If you get down in the Des Moines area? stop on in and take a look at my UTEs. They are also based on a four door platform!
A while back there was a (55-56?) DeSoto coupe Ute 4 sale on an Aussie form.
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teisco
Posted 2007-09-23 2:00 PM (#97589 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: Re: 56 Belvamino?


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four door cars were always looked at as potential around here. I remember in the late 50's we even cut the tops off and made fair weather cruisers. I got a good deal on this car and bought it with the intention of making the best of it.
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chrycopsycho
Posted 2007-09-23 2:08 PM (#97594 - in reply to #97589)
Subject: Re: 56 Belvamino?



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can somebody photoshop a 55-56 desoto 4drsedan so we can see what that would look like! I think a hemi powered Desino would be neat.

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roadkillontheweb
Posted 2007-09-23 2:07 PM (#97593 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: Re: 56 Belvamino?



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Location: Iowa USA		I always liked the idea of stubbies!
Take about 18-24 inches out of the middle making it a 2/3 seater. Probably easier with a 4 door hardtop.
You could also take off the entire roof and use the top assembly and windshield with cowl from a donor car like a Chrysler sebring that has been wrecked.
by mounting the cowl low the wipers are hidden below the hood line and it also acts to chop the top some while making it an all weather car.
Lighter weight, decreased turning radius, etc.
Try a photoshop of that idea?

Edited by roadkillontheweb 2007-09-23 2:08 PM
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roadkillontheweb
Posted 2007-09-23 2:10 PM (#97597 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: RE: 56 Belvamino?



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Location: Iowa USA		56 Desoto?
Is it the fins?
here is an AP3 Chrysler royal with fins and triple taillights




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d500neil
Posted 2007-09-23 2:11 PM (#97598 - in reply to #97560)
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EXACT-SAME 56 PLY "el camino" wagon, in essentially perfect/complete bodywork!

All the other-stuff has been removed from it, but a 4-dr sedan parts car would be all that would be needed to restore this
'wagon'.

The car has badly faded "Carnation Dairy" paintwork on its doors.





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roadkillontheweb
Posted 2007-09-23 2:16 PM (#97599 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: RE: 56 Belvamino?



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Mopar1
Posted 2007-09-23 3:14 PM (#97604 - in reply to #97599)
Subject: RE: 56 Belvamino?



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50scars
Posted 2007-09-23 9:12 PM (#97659 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: Re: 56 Belvamino?


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Location: Oakley, Ill		Actually, I like the second one better--gives the utility of interior storage--possibly an extended cab with a jump seat. Also, I'd loose t he skirts. I think the open wheel looks lighter and more casual. The lack of a roof makes the quarter panels look long as it is.
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teisco
Posted 2007-09-23 9:14 PM (#97661 - in reply to #97659)
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Thanks, but I like the skirts, in fact they are already on.





(my 56.jpg)



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Posted 2007-09-24 12:16 AM (#97683 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: RE: 56 Belvamino?


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Location: Lemoore CA		I like the first one the best, it's your car, and you can do what you want, but if that last picture is your real car, I wouldn't cut it up, look for another that is rough, and cut it instead. Just my opinion.
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teisco
Posted 2007-09-24 12:24 AM (#97684 - in reply to #97560)
Subject: Re: 56 Belvamino?


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This one is rough, there is rust holes in the trunk and floor and the rockers are gone. Every side panel has a dent or two. It has a ton of bondo in it. I still on the fence about using the saw and might just go for a fake carson top and weld the rear doors shut.
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BHWINC
Posted 2007-09-24 12:37 AM (#97685 - in reply to #97560)
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Location: Etters Pa		Do away with the vent windows and window frame, increase the door glass size (like a ht car would have) and add a manual conv top something like was found on
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