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Viper Engine in my 59 Belvedere Finally Mounted
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57desoto
Posted 2014-03-12 7:25 AM (#430876 - in reply to #100838)
Subject: Re: Viper Engine in my 59 Belvedere Finally Mounted



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Like Wizard, I like the "back to original" restorations best, BUT I'm absolutely in awe of the talents shown in doing something like this. It's simply amazing, and you should be very proud of that incredible car!
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oldwood
Posted 2014-03-12 9:14 AM (#430883 - in reply to #100838)
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What does a project like this cost??? Give us a ball park #. Chevy and Ford had nothing in looks vs the '59 Plymouth in that year.
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FURY
Posted 2014-03-12 3:58 PM (#430922 - in reply to #430883)
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My guess would be that the biggest expense is the countless hours put in by the owner himself, and how do you put a price on this.

oldwood - 2014-03-13 1:14 AM

What does a project like this cost??? Give us a ball park #. Chevy and Ford had nothing in looks vs the '59 Plymouth in that year.
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Big Jimbo
Posted 2014-04-04 1:22 PM (#434589 - in reply to #100838)
Subject: Re: Viper Engine in my 59 Belvedere Finally Mounted



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Thanks for the kind words! Over the years I have restored a couple of old Corvettes and a Chevelle SS back to original, and this project didn't cost more for the parts and things than other complete restorations, it was just MUCH more difficult to find parts for these cars because you can't build one out of a catalog like you can the old GM and Ford cars. Where Fury is correct is that it did take countless hours to do the car because every change had to be carefully thought through and then fabricated. Probably 2 or 3 times the hours to do a regular restoration. No one sells anything in kit form to install a Viper engine. Also my goal was to make this as reliable as a daily driver, and to make the brakes and suspension safely handle 550 HP. Because of this I have used factory Mopar parts wherever possible and no made in China aftermarket stuff. I also wanted excellent A/C and sound proofing like a new car. I have probably put in well over 1000 hours on the car but got to learn many new skills like how to build a Dana 60, installing and servicing A/C, and how to weld and do metal fabrication. It has been the most fun I have ever had building a car. And now it is almost finished. The only big thing left is the interior and then installing the rear windows after the headliner. I am going to hire a professional to do that part. This weekend I am going to take it out on the road for the first time in over a year and get it ready to take over to the upholstery guy! I will post some more pictures then.
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60 dart
Posted 2014-04-04 2:40 PM (#434594 - in reply to #100838)
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was there a lot of weight difference between the old motor/trans and new -----------------------------------------------------later
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Big Jimbo
Posted 2014-04-04 7:29 PM (#434627 - in reply to #100838)
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I am guessing that the new aluminum motor and transmission weigh at least 200# less than the old 318 and iron torqueflite. The 318 almost bent an engine stand I had used on a big block chevy engine and I could hardly lift the cast iron intake manifold out of the engine compartment without using the cherry picker. Also, 1 human can lift a tremec 6sp trans, and that is not true with the iron torqueflite! The car sat over an inch higher with the new motor and I had to readjust the torsion bars to get it back to factory specs. I weighed the car on a truck scale after I installed the engine and it weighed 3690# with almost a full gas tank, but I don't know what it was before the transplant. I will have to weigh it again now that I have re-done everthing and added A/C and some sound deadening.
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JAG
Posted 2014-04-18 11:25 PM (#436782 - in reply to #100838)
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i love this building looking forward to updates when you can
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mikes2nd
Posted 2014-04-19 1:16 AM (#436790 - in reply to #100838)
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you might have some competition here is a bit

I am looking at the SRT-8 hemi setup, 6.4 litre with custom frame, etc to put in the 58 Belvedere.

I am finishing a 1970 GTO right now with and LS3 and a front Corvette z06 suspension in it(back axle is actually from a Ford Mustang Shelby Gt500).

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oldwood
Posted 2014-04-19 2:24 AM (#436803 - in reply to #436790)
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You'll probably have to get some bleach to get the rear tires really rollling. LOL
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notweak2
Posted 2014-04-19 12:11 PM (#436840 - in reply to #399741)
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Your car is FREAKIN BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!! You've done a great job. You've taken a Foward Look and blended it with a heavy dose of Forward Thinking!

I'll be re-doing my '57 Saratoga and I formally challenge you to a good ole drag race. My old school Hemi power against your new school Viper power. The race would be epic on YouTube. What do you think, Jimbo?


How far is N. Alabama from Arizona?


What up Dorsey?

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Big Jimbo
Posted 2014-04-28 3:05 PM (#438293 - in reply to #100838)
Subject: Re: Viper Engine in my 59 Belvedere Finally Mounted



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I love the look of your old school Hemi, and a run-off at the local drag strip would be really cool. Two old mopars battling it out. Mine would look like the underdog with the hood shut. Unfortunately we are about 1700 miles apart.
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Big Jimbo
Posted 2014-06-27 7:14 PM (#446945 - in reply to #100838)
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I finally got my interior done and am very pleased with the workmanship.  I went with a 1959 Dodge pattern and material.  The 59 Plymouth now has a 59 Dodge color with 59 Dodge interior, a 2005 Dodge engine, and a 1966 Dana 60 rear.  All in the Mopar family   I plan on installing the rest of the interior and glass this weekend, and it will then be all finished except for a few cosmetic issues.  I will post some additional pictures and a video when it is all done.  I drove it about 60 miles and all is well.  The AC blows very cold and the engine does not overheat which is good now that it is about 110 in AZ.  It is amazing how much quiter and tighter the car is after welding up the holes and adding lots of insulation.  I can't wait to take it over to Firebird for a few runs down the 1/4 mile!     





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oldwood
Posted 2014-06-27 8:19 PM (#446954 - in reply to #446945)
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Well, we need to have Central US FL mopar show and let the big dogs fight it out. Darn we need another Tulsa!!!


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SavoyPlaza
Posted 2014-06-30 6:04 AM (#447262 - in reply to #100838)
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Right on, Dorsey!! We do need another world-wide meet!!

The interior looks great, Jim. She's a beautiful beast, with quite the attitude!
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ttotired
Posted 2014-06-30 6:33 AM (#447263 - in reply to #100838)
Subject: Re: Viper Engine in my 59 Belvedere Finally Mounted



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I recon a worldwide forward look show here in Perth would be pretty cool

The only thing is the freight costs, but have an answer to that one, you could all bring your cars here and just leave them here for me

I promise I will look after them

Sounds like a great idea, wadda you think

Looks like they did a great job Jim

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notweak2
Posted 2014-07-16 3:23 AM (#449289 - in reply to #446945)
Subject: RE: Viper Engine in my 59 Belvedere Finally Mounted


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Update, please.
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JAG
Posted 2015-05-10 11:57 PM (#477955 - in reply to #100838)
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wow, the last time i was on here was about this time last year and still no update, such an awesome car that none of us can enjoy with big jimbo
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