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57burb
Posted 2019-03-04 10:13 PM (#578880 - in reply to #578876)
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Those are some big compliments, thank you. I'm glad you guys like it!
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The Adventurer
Posted 2019-03-04 11:44 PM (#578883 - in reply to #111659)
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Danny wow wow wow is all ican say , the car and paint looks killer . You must be over the moon . This is the when you really start getting enthused with a resto project after paint is on . Your dad looks to be like my dad , they just know how to do things right !
A credit to you guys . Cant wait to see how the trim turns up now .
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57burb
Posted 2019-03-09 2:27 PM (#579089 - in reply to #111659)
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We finally have some sunny weather, so I pulled it outside for a couple of pics with her twin sister. Starting to look like a car, now.



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ToMopar
Posted 2019-03-11 4:27 AM (#579157 - in reply to #111659)
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Danny, - wow,
It looks that you could cruise very soon with your custom Cruizer
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Posted 2019-03-11 6:43 AM (#579158 - in reply to #111659)
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You must be proud having your Dad working on this car with you! You are a lucky Bloke.
11 years aint so long............anyways, its a marathon not a sprint!
As Jon above says, I cant wait to see the pics and video of this car when done. It is spectacular already. (Hey Jon, I cant wait to see your 56 Imperial done too)

Steve.
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57burb
Posted 2019-03-18 1:28 PM (#579499 - in reply to #579158)
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Finally got all the stainless on the car. Now working on the interior, and waiting for the chrome to get back!



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The Adventurer
Posted 2019-03-18 7:59 PM (#579510 - in reply to #111659)
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Looks sensational . Cant wait to see how your trim comes out .
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Posted 2019-03-19 4:45 PM (#579550 - in reply to #111659)
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The fun part!
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57burb
Posted 2019-03-25 12:29 PM (#579880 - in reply to #579510)
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Fun?! Man, I am starting in on the interior, and I wouldn't call that fun! I have a lot of anxiety because I've never done this stuff before and I don't want it to look like an amateur did it. But on the plus side, if I don't like something, I can always rip it out and try to do it better.

I have a local upholsterer doing the seats; he has the back seat to me already and it looks great! Can't wait to see the swivels. I thought I might try to do the headliner, but I was concerned that I could never get it stretched and glued and looking nice without having done it before. So I asked the upholsterer if he could do it, and he came to my shop and knocked it out of the park! I'm very glad I had him do it.

I did get all the windlace installed and laid down the jute. I put down a thin first layer to smooth out the floor contours, and a thick layer for sound and heat barrier. Then I rolled out my Trinidad carpet in the car and it looks awesome! But once again I didn't have the guts to cut this stuff up, so I am putting in some plain black carpets for now. It doesn't follow contours very well, so I'm not totally happy with it. But I'll figure out a way to get that Trinidad in, it's just a matter of time.

The door panels are mocked up. The eagle eyed among us will notice I added a second piece of trim on the door so I can add a small section of gold fabric, which my wife requested. I'll be learning as I go on them too, so I'll be putting down the thin foam and covering them in vinyl soon.

The chrome shop said my stuff should be ready today, so there may be a brief pause in the interior work while all that pretty stuff goes back on



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Posted 2019-03-25 2:56 PM (#579890 - in reply to #111659)
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hah too nice to drive now I hope not.

Looking even better now that its coming to completion.
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57burb
Posted 2019-03-25 6:17 PM (#579908 - in reply to #579890)
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I'm going to drive the wheels off this thing. It's nice, but it's no show car.
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Posted 2019-03-25 7:10 PM (#579912 - in reply to #111659)
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I'm very jealous about the great progress you are making. It's gonna feel like a different car when you start driving it again.
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Posted 2019-03-26 3:32 PM (#579945 - in reply to #579912)
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Powerflite - 2019-03-26 12:10 AM

I'm very jealous about the great progress you are making.


Me too
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57burb
Posted 2019-04-08 10:33 AM (#580537 - in reply to #579945)
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Took a couple of pictures over the weekend. I'm pretty happy with how the car is shaping up, but time is running out! I'm planning to drive it to Austin on Thursday, and I still don't have my arm rests, visors, or front seat back from the upholsterer.

I did the carpet and door panels myself. They look okay, but close inspection shows they're kind of amateurish. I may redo them when I get a chance. But they'll do for now.

I pulled the wheels off to inspect the brakes, steering and suspension and clean things up under there. Also, there were a couple of rear axle studs that had chewed up threads, so I pulled the axles out and will put a new set of studs in later today.

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Posted 2019-04-08 11:39 AM (#580539 - in reply to #111659)
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Very nice Danny, soon ready for road tests!
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Posted 2019-04-08 9:26 PM (#580562 - in reply to #111659)
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Very nice looking custom. You just need that seat done to use it. The rest is icing on the cake.
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Posted 2019-04-11 5:24 PM (#580734 - in reply to #111659)
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57burb
Posted 2019-04-15 3:56 PM (#580937 - in reply to #580734)
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The car is back together and drives as good as before! I took it on a ~600 mile trip to Austin and back and it performed just great.

Reactions have been really nice so far, I'm sure the toughest critics are right here on the FL site. Still lots of minor things to address, but looking forward to a bunch of cruising...




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The Adventurer
Posted 2019-04-15 10:32 PM (#580949 - in reply to #111659)
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Trim is looking great Danny and the car is looking totallly wild !

Hey out of interest ive been meaning to post up these pics of the C pillar mouldings i cut , shaved , folded and gingerely manipulated into shape from a 56 Packard 400 inside rear pillar . This is what i was looking for on my 57 chrysler , as i really hate the New Yorkers didnt get the roof mouldings like the 58 Fireflite . This seems to give it that finishing touch without overdoing it .
It is only sitting on there loosely and is not attached yet , so if it appears wonky it is as it needs to be sitting in place better , but i dont want to mess up the paint until i attached them properly .

What do you guys think . I think they are a great fit and thought it might be a good idea for others to add to that final touch .

I found a NOS Rear 59 Pillar Moulding , but i found this after making mine and never realised they had a rear pillar moulding as i never really looked or took notice of 59s . I cant find the other side mate to this at an affordable price , so i will stick with what i made .

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Posted 2019-04-15 10:48 PM (#580951 - in reply to #580949)
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They look terrific, but dont belong on a survivor car! You should send them to me asap!
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Posted 2019-04-15 11:15 PM (#580954 - in reply to #111659)
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Congratulations Danny, great to be done on it.

I've never thought about fitting the '59 roof trim to a '57. I bet they came up with that trim to hide the horribly warped C-panels from the factory. That's often one of the worst places on the car for the '57-'58 large bodies in terms of build quality. What car is the other trim piece from?
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Posted 2019-04-15 11:36 PM (#580955 - in reply to #111659)
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Thanks Danny , they probably do belong on your car more than mine . But i spent so long making them i couldnt ! If i dont fit them ill let you have them .

Nathan they are off a 56 Packard 400 inner rear pillar . I have a photo there showing what they started life as . It was a lot harder than it looks to make them . As i have to make a curved flared out edge to wrap them into the rear windshield rubber which i did with 2 blocks of soft pine wood in a vice so as not to do damage and its make it look factory . After i made them and discovered the 59 type i realised they had a lip that sits under the rear windshield moulding , which is no good if you want to fit them after the car is together . My idea was much smarter i thought .



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Posted 2019-04-16 2:15 AM (#580958 - in reply to #580937)
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The car is back together and drives as good as before! I took it on a ~600 mile trip to Austin and back and it performed just great.

Reactions have been really nice so far, I'm sure the toughest critics are right here on the FL site. Still lots of minor things to address, but looking forward to a bunch of cruising...



Very sleek and nice, the small careful modifications blends in well with the original design. Now use it and enjoy it
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Posted 2019-04-16 4:18 AM (#580962 - in reply to #111659)
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Looks fantastic!
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Posted 2019-04-16 10:25 AM (#580966 - in reply to #111659)
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Great car Danny, one on my favorites on this entire site. Extra credit for making it stick shift too (in my book) for the fun factor.
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Posted 2019-04-18 3:24 AM (#581067 - in reply to #111659)
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Hey Danny , i meant to ask what car were your rear arch mouldings from . As i bought some local valiant ones the other day but the lip want deep enough .
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Posted 2019-04-18 6:20 AM (#581071 - in reply to #111659)
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Next time I flew via Houston, I will stop by and ask you for a ride...
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Posted 2019-04-18 11:06 AM (#581089 - in reply to #111659)
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James, they are just some "generic" aluminum wheel opening trim pieces that happened to come with my parts car. No identification on them. They were brand new, never mounted. I had to cut and bend them quite a lot to "fit" and even then... well, don't get too close! They are a bit rough. I may redo them, but for now they are working to break up that huge expanse of black.

Tom, you're welcome to stop by anytime. But Houston is a five hour drive from my shop! DFW airport would be much closer
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Posted 2019-04-18 10:54 PM (#581126 - in reply to #111659)
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Thanks Danny . I am sure i will find a moulding to suits eventually !
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Posted 2019-05-22 5:21 PM (#582425 - in reply to #580966)
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Not much to report, except that I swapped on the repro Chrysler wires from the wagon onto the Chrysler just to change it up a bit. They're okay-looking. Kinda cliche. The tires are far too short, but it's undeniable that the radials are more sure-footed.

James, I got a pair of the Packard interior sail panel trim pieces, thank you for the tip! I also ebay'd a pair of '57-58 Cadillac coupe rear wheel opening mouldings to see if they will be a little nicer than the cheap jobs I used. I'll probably play with them both over the long weekend here.



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Posted 2019-05-22 5:57 PM (#582430 - in reply to #111659)
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I agree that the wires are better suited to a more stock car. A custom with wires is a little odd. They still look nice, but it is like putting stock full cover hub caps on a drag car.

I like the stance of your car MUCH better than the drawings/photoshop that were made with the cars sitting on the ground. To me, sitting on the ground like that looks pretty stupid, like wheels with excessive negative camber & wheel hopping suspensions kind of stupid. But yours is nicely lowered with a decent rake to it still.
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Posted 2019-05-22 8:11 PM (#582436 - in reply to #111659)
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Very, very nice! Love the DeSoto front. You'll be the envy at all the shows and cruises for sure as well as on the street.
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Posted 2019-05-22 8:42 PM (#582439 - in reply to #111659)
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No sweat Danny , happy to help .

Also let me know how you go with those caddy wheel house moldings , as i just looked on ebay and they do look the same shape dont they . well spotted !
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Posted 2019-06-04 2:55 AM (#582908 - in reply to #111659)
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57burb you have a beautiful car!

just to know, your rims are much similar to the ones I have on my desoto, are they 15" wheelsvintique?
do you have the specifications? width, etc. ?
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Posted 2019-06-04 11:56 AM (#582925 - in reply to #582908)
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Hi Guido, thank you!

My wheels were custom made by rallyamerica.com several years ago. They are chromed '49-56 Ford wheel centers with new outer rims, and are 15x5 with 7.10-15 in front, and 15x7 with and L78-15 in the rear, with 3" whitewalls all around. They are reverse offset in the rear, but my rear axle is narrower than stock so they fit in the wheel house same as stock. Hope that helps!
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Posted 2019-06-05 3:10 AM (#582949 - in reply to #111659)
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thanks for your answer.
the previous owner who made the custom style of my desoto, said my wheels are wheelvintiques rims.
he does not remember the measurements, except for the diameter 15".....which is quite clear from the tyres specs: 6.70-15 front, 8.20-15 rear.
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Posted 2019-06-11 6:19 PM (#583299 - in reply to #111659)
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I have read that Desoto fenders are different than the Chrysler's around the front Bumper did you have to modify your fenders to get the Desoto Bumper on it?

I am Planning a Similar build to your original Photoshop Pic, I love that Picture its my computer screen, Its my inspiration to get the Project going.
Still searching for the Front Bumper for mine every time I find one I am low on Cash, but things are better now.
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Posted 2019-06-11 6:25 PM (#583303 - in reply to #111659)
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Which car are you starting with? You may consider just starting with a DeSoto.
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Posted 2019-06-11 10:16 PM (#583316 - in reply to #111659)
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I would love to have a Desoto but, I have a 57 New Yorker 2 door.
Im not complaining though lol I just really like the look of the Desoto Bumper over the Chrysler.
Not too mention with the hood scoop its just way over the top.

I already have a 57 4 door parts car I am gonna use for the Hood to modify so I wont harm my original.

I would like to find a decent tail light set up from the Desoto as well but I am just gonna keep wishing for a Bumper.
I have now fear of making my own bumper brackets or modifying the ones off my 4 door parts car its front bumper is damaged.

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Posted 2019-06-12 11:35 PM (#583367 - in reply to #111659)
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I like it. Are the brakes manual? Did you Delete the heater core?
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Posted 2019-06-13 10:05 AM (#583375 - in reply to #111659)
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A magnificent piece of automobile, just at the right stance. I'm usually not a big fan of parts from other cars grafted on a kustom, as it never looks right, but the hood scoop on this one looks like it came from the factory. Great job.
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Posted 2019-06-13 9:45 PM (#583395 - in reply to #583375)
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Doright, the Desoto bumper will bolt on without modifying the Chrysler front fenders. The brackets are different, of course. I had to do some minor trimming of the upper brackets to clear the fenders, but that was all.

Thank you, Sid. I know you like them original so that means a lot. The car is pretty low though! I have very tall tires on it, so it doesn't look "slammed." The hood scoop is funny. Very few people even notice it, and those that do think the car is a 300 or some other special model. Only 4 or 5 people have asked me if the scoop was added. So I guess it looks like the factory put it there - mission accomplished. Even fewer people notice the trunk and rear bumper.

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Posted 2019-06-16 6:11 PM (#583532 - in reply to #111659)
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Love the Rake you gave it, how did you accomplish that?

Cant wait to get going on mine I have a few other restorations in front of it right now. BUT soon gives me time to find the Bumper.



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Posted 2019-06-16 8:35 PM (#583536 - in reply to #583532)
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I turned down the torsion bars and used 2" lowering blocks in the rear. There's also quite a bit of "rubber rake" because the rear tires are nearly 2" taller than the fronts.
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Posted 2019-06-20 6:37 PM (#583809 - in reply to #111659)
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How do Lowering blocks in the rear work?
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57burb
Posted 2019-06-20 9:41 PM (#583815 - in reply to #583809)
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They are simple aluminum blocks that are placed between the leaf springs and the rear axle. Since the axle is above the leaf springs, it lowers the car by the thickness of the blocks. You normally need longer u-bolts to account for the difference.
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Posted 2019-06-20 11:17 PM (#583826 - in reply to #583815)
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57burb - 2019-06-20 6:41 PM

They are simple aluminum blocks that are placed between the leaf springs and the rear axle. Since the axle is above the leaf springs, it lowers the car by the thickness of the blocks. You normally need longer u-bolts to account for the difference.


Something like this:



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Doright
Posted 2019-06-21 5:08 PM (#583847 - in reply to #111659)
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I gotcha, Did lowering the front by loosening the Torsion bars hurt Handling at all?

I am under the assumption they are adjusted by a bolt and lever on Torsion bar that sets up the Torsion bar tension and then measuring ride height at the lower control arm inner attach point to the ground correct?

Is there a 4 wheel disk brake kit available yet for these cars? I sure would like to do that modification.
Along with Stronger Sway bars just to improve the Body Roll.

I am also thinking about mild supercharging

Edited by Doright 2019-06-21 5:12 PM
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1960fury
Posted 2019-06-21 5:52 PM (#583849 - in reply to #111659)
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You can't adjust the tension of a torsion bar. Regardless of adjustment/height, tension stays the same.
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Powerflite
Posted 2019-06-21 7:07 PM (#583850 - in reply to #111659)
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Yep, just the geometry changes so you have to readjust and re-align it; and you lose some room for movement between the bump stops.
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