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finnedandthefuryous
Posted 2008-01-25 12:16 PM (#112244 - in reply to #112043)
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57burb - 2008-01-23 6:52 PM

Denis, that's not bad but it's not my style of car. Take a look at any of the custom car "little books" circa '59-62 and that's the mild custom style this car will be built in.


I like the orange car, but this style is also far preferable in my eyes. I cant wait to see your progress.
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Ray Bell
Posted 2008-01-25 2:00 PM (#112252 - in reply to #111659)
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What a wonderful buy... what a great project!

All the best with it. Keep the piccies rolling... and when it's done, drive it!
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Posted 2008-01-31 4:46 PM (#112999 - in reply to #112120)
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Sid - I couldn't agree more - it's like drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa. I got rid of 300c vert because with 3 kids in college I couldn't restore it the way it deserved - all that leather, rechrome, hemi rebuild etc adds up. Could have used vinyl on seats dropped in a 440...rodders and derbiers have a lot to answer for in my opinion. Go trash something common, not a rare classic...you & I have similar taste ... btw lots of interest in the chair from Europa.

The 6-ish range does seem reasonable for a 2 dr hardtop in that shape, that model was one of the purest expressions of the Forward Look imo. Some great color combos were available that year too... gotta love that Salmon color.
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Posted 2008-02-01 2:39 AM (#113057 - in reply to #111659)
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Danny, it will cost virtually the same money to restore your car, to OEM appearance, as it would, to hot-rod it, BUT, the car will be worth a LOT more, if you do the 'right' thing, and make it look stock!

And, (and, I am willing to debate this point with anyone here!), if you try to make the car look like a 'custom' model, all that you will succeed in doing is making the car LOOK cheap, or, as if its owner didn't know how to restore the car, so, he (had to) cut- corners and took the easy (Cheebie-) way out, in getting the car running.

Believe me (and others); you will ultimately get more satisfaction and pride out of effecting an OEM restoration, than if you put flames and metallic-paint on the car, and a tuck-and-rolled interior.

Adults drive adult cars, and, like-it-or-not: a New Yorker is an (affluent) ADULT's car.

Y'all go hot rod a Plaza sedan to your hearts' content; leave the NY'ers & IMPS to people who enjoy a luxurious prestigious automobile.





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d500neil
Posted 2008-02-01 3:09 AM (#113062 - in reply to #111659)
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Danny, I just went back and read the beginning of this thread.

First thing, MAN; that car is fully loaded, and the OEM colors are very attractive.

My suggestion is that if you are seriously interested in restoring the window operation, the power seat operation, the rear defroster operation, the air conditioner operation, and the signal-seeking radio operation, you should consider resoring the PAINT and interior 'operation', too.

That car is just TOO loaded, not to receive a full and complete restoration.

If it were a basket case, or a stripper model, you'd get no complaints from me, with hot-rodding its paint,interior,engine (440 6-pak) and suspension ( Cam- aro front end, right?) But, MAN: please, honor this car's survival and restore it correctly !

In the end, you'll be glad you did.




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57burb
Posted 2008-02-01 11:22 AM (#113087 - in reply to #113062)
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Neil.. it's just gonna be lowered and have non-original colors on it.

I agree with you wholeheartedly... the car "deserves" a perfect restoration. But for now, it's going to be my custom.

It won't be cut or chopped up or ruined. All the parts I don't use will be stored for later. Please don't fret, I won't ruin this car with wacky doo-dads or frenched antennas or canted headlights or Packard tail lights or anything like that. Torsion bars are staying, as are its 392 and pushbutton TF. It will be a snap to return to original when that day comes.

I'm not worried one bit about value.. I've been looking too long for a car like this to sell it.

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Johnnie
Posted 2008-02-01 1:40 PM (#113096 - in reply to #111659)
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Lower it,shave it,panel paint it ,chrome tape the roof,dual quads,glass packs,tuck'n'roll everywhere then drive the wheels off the thing ..................................you know it makes sense ( lol )
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Posted 2008-02-01 7:18 PM (#113146 - in reply to #111659)
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My 56 Chrysler is a unusual one --and it deserves a restoration to original, even tho I don,t care for the factory color.. I made mine look custom without doing anything that couldn't easily be returned to stock--cause thats what I WANT for now. The interior is stock and the paint is epoxy primer. When the time comes, it will be easy to light sand and paint to original. ...................................MO
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Posted 2008-02-02 2:40 PM (#113238 - in reply to #111659)
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hey guys, I kind of stumbled across this forum and almost fell out of my chair on the 57 NYer project. I have the same thing going here in upstate new york. mine is a 4 door though. Anyone with info on a windshield for this I'd appreciate.
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Posted 2008-02-04 11:58 PM (#113505 - in reply to #113146)
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My 56 Chrysler is a unusual one --and it deserves a restoration to original, even tho I don,t care for the factory color.. I made mine look custom without doing anything that couldn't easily be returned to stock--cause thats what I WANT for now. The interior is stock and the paint is epoxy primer. When the time comes, it will be easy to light sand and paint to original. ...................................MO
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57burb
Posted 2008-02-05 10:58 AM (#113547 - in reply to #111659)
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Great looking car, Steve! I don't think I've ever seen that trim/paint package before..
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Posted 2008-02-12 10:46 AM (#114653 - in reply to #111659)
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Mopar-To-Ya: That is one of the best looking shapes ever made. When I saw the pics of your car with those bikini girls I thought this is the perfect car! Trust me, I looked the pic with a magnifying glass I think its now perfect, I like the color combo and the wheels.

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narleycharlie
Posted 2008-02-12 8:31 PM (#114753 - in reply to #111659)
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Not everyone here or elsewhere wants a restored car , call me elcheapo or ignorant on HOW to restore a car . A non stock looking car from that era is to my liking . It ain t got nothing to do with value if you don t plan on selling it . Go do what you want with your car and enjoy it before some act of GOD takes it away from you and you never get that chance to do with it what you would have .
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nigel68
Posted 2008-05-05 8:42 AM (#128586 - in reply to #114753)
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I read this discussion only today...Great Car!! I got a 58 4door ht as you know... means that I MUST love this 57.. beautiful and loaded...such a car deserves a correct restoration, or a mild custom such as sporty tires and rims...
congrats again!!
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57burb
Posted 2008-08-18 4:24 PM (#141767 - in reply to #128586)
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Just wanted you all to know that work has progressed on the Chrysler. It's been really hot the past few months so it has been very slow.

Here I was fitting it for proper tire sizes....



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57burb
Posted 2017-03-01 1:21 PM (#534958 - in reply to #141767)
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After nine years, most of you have probably forgotten that I even had this car. In that time I've had two house moves, a marriage, and a few great vacations. I can't complain.

But now it's time to get back to work on the Chrysler. I'm still building it the same way I always envisioned. The original 392 block is being used here for mock up with the Tremec TKO manual trans. I have a good running 392 in a parts car that will be going in after it gets cleaned, painted, and detailed. I've actually been making a lot of progress recently. My guess is it will be drivable by the end of summer. Wish me luck.

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Posted 2017-03-01 5:38 PM (#534969 - in reply to #111659)
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Good to hear it Danny. You really need to be driving that beast. It's pretty odd to have a New Yorker with manual trans. I have never even witnessed a Windsor with a manual trans. But I can see a low end Firesweep getting one. I had originally thought of doing a Tremec swap in my '56 Savoy, but changed my mind in the end. I still have all the pedal & clutch linkage stashed somewhere in my garage.

Does your car have an extra wide piece of trim across the top of the roof, above the windsheild? Mine does, but I was wondering if it was standard fare on the New Yorkers, or if it was an extra option.
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57burb
Posted 2017-03-01 6:23 PM (#534972 - in reply to #534969)
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Thank you Nathan. This car was built with a Torqueflite of course. Pushbuttons are cool, but I like the stick. The car is going to be an early '60s style custom, and a lot of them ended up with hot drivetrains in them. The pedals are from a '58 Suburban.

I believe all '57 New Yorkers had that piece of trim you mention, as do 300Cs.
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Posted 2018-03-12 6:14 PM (#559768 - in reply to #534972)
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Posted 2018-03-12 7:08 PM (#559772 - in reply to #111659)
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Sweet. Great front end.
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Posted 2018-03-12 8:10 PM (#559775 - in reply to #111659)
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Looking great Danny! I'm surprised the Torches and Pitchforks haven't come out. Love the 392 and MANual tranny. Marc.
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Posted 2018-03-31 6:45 AM (#560815 - in reply to #111659)
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Nice Ride Danny....what is the front end off of? Did you move up to 15" wheels from the stock 14's? Really nice project, keep the pictures coming....whats under the plastic next to it? Looks kinda like mine...
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57burb
Posted 2018-04-03 3:48 PM (#561067 - in reply to #111659)
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I've been busting my tail on this car to get it ready for the Lone Star Round Up in Austin this weekend. I've been driving it around some but it has a stubborn, dead miss on one cylinder that I haven't diagnosed yet. It starts and goes through the gears okay. My exhaust guy took his sweet time even though I made it clear I have a lot left to get done on it. Those four-bolt truck/300D manifolds are a BEAR for an exhaust shop to deal with. Billy, the other car is a parts car. I have a full set of stock hub caps if you're interested.
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Posted 2018-04-03 4:53 PM (#561075 - in reply to #111659)
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What trouble did they have with the 4-bolts? Once I headed the pipes toward the motor, it wasn't too hard - although it did require a couple of tight compound turns. But I thought it was actually harder going over the trans crossmember. *Edit*: I think I just figured out why. I had to cut the pipes off those flanges *almost* completely off. I had maybe 1/8" stub of pipe left on them because the attachment pipe had to start bending right at the flange in order to get it away from the T-bars.

What does the spark plug look like on the dead cylinder? Check the wire continuity as well. A stuck valve is not as likely if you don't hear any backfire in the exhaust or intake, but the only other possibilities are a bad lifter (that you should be able to hear) or loss of compression from a bad ring (detectable from a leak down test).



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57burb
Posted 2018-04-03 10:01 PM (#561102 - in reply to #561075)
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Your pipe shown passes directly through the spot where my starter is. He did cut down the stubs to nearly nothing and used a stainless 2.5" mandrel bent donut I brought for him to use.

I'll try to get a picture and upload it later. I haven't figured out how to resize pictures on this phone, which should be simple.

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Posted 2018-04-03 11:04 PM (#561106 - in reply to #111659)
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Big pics are no good...

There might be an option on your phone camera (whatever happened to using cameras, anyway?) to take pics in a lower resolution, that would help.

But best of all is to download Irfanview (it's free) and use it for everything. You can readily crop, lighten, darken, sharpen, reduce etc in seconds.

For instance, it took well under a minute and a half to do all of that from copying and pasting this pic to alter contrast, lighting, crop, sharpen and
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57burb
Posted 2018-04-09 11:07 AM (#561306 - in reply to #561106)
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Thank you for the tips, Ray. I can crop and put instagram 'filters' on all my phone pictures, but it doesn't seem to have a simple resizing tool. I'm sure I've overlooked it. But now I'm at my laptop and can post at will.

Still having an issue with how it's running. Very frustrating. But here are a few pictures from the past week or so.



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Posted 2018-04-09 4:43 PM (#561322 - in reply to #111659)
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In Irfanview to resize:

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Posted 2018-04-09 5:05 PM (#561324 - in reply to #111659)
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Wow, very nice looking. Doesn't look like it would take very much to finish the paint on it either, so you are almost there. Keep up the good work! I just noticed your rear license plate. That's some slick work there!

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Posted 2018-04-09 5:26 PM (#561326 - in reply to #111659)
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In Irfanview to resize:

> Image > Resize/Resample > type in the size you want in one direction (about 850 pix3els is plenty big enough for the width) > OK

Then save with a different file name so you don't lose the original.
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Posted 2018-04-09 10:34 PM (#561339 - in reply to #111659)
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Really like this car's stance, and the stick shift is a welcome addition in my opinion. One of the coolest (if not the coolest) 1957 New Yorker I've ever seen.
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Posted 2018-04-10 2:44 AM (#561347 - in reply to #111659)
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Great car,

the front clip with 57 desoto bumper and NYer chrome lip additional with the little scoop looks great
THIS is a cool cruiser
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Posted 2018-04-10 9:01 AM (#561350 - in reply to #111659)
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What size wheels and tires are on this car? Where did you purchase the tires?
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Posted 2018-04-10 11:17 AM (#561352 - in reply to #561350)
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Wow, you guys don't miss any details. I have done a lot of small, subtle changes to this car that 99.99% of people would never notice. Even people that are "into" old Mopars. Congrats on being in the top .01% There are dozens of other things. The battery tray has been removed under the hood. The 300C 150 speedometer. The '58 Chrysler radio delete plate. All just for you .01%ers!!

Powerflite - 2018-04-09 4:05 PM

Wow, very nice looking. Doesn't look like it would take very much to finish the paint on it either, so you are almost there. Keep up the good work! I just noticed your rear license plate. That's some slick work there!


I still have a lot of work to do to make it a good driving car first. I want to go ahead and finish the interior and the trunk upholstery before painting it. I have to remove the rear glass to put a headliner back in it. It will take weeks to pull all the trim, and straighten and polish it. I guess what I'm saying is, get used to this ugly look for a while! It dawned on me that I never put up a picture of what it will look like "done" so I'm going to put it on the bottom here.

The back bumper was a mess anyway, so I didn't mind cutting a big ol hole in it. The little shadow box arrangement I made to hold the plate and the light was the hard part. All for something that nobody will ever see! It tucks the plate pretty high up in there. I could lower it some but I think I prefer it mostly hidden.

jboymechanic - 2018-04-09 9:34 PM

Really like this car's stance, and the stick shift is a welcome addition in my opinion. One of the coolest (if not the coolest) 1957 New Yorker I've ever seen.


Thank you. I hesitated on going forward with the Tremec because I have good Torqueflites laying around. It has definitely gotten mixed reviews!

The car keeps getting lower. I will probably swap the 3" blocks for 2"s and raise the front back up some. Eventually I want to put rear springs on it that are the right height and rate without blocks. Lots of other things to deal with first!

ToMopar - 2018-04-10 1:44 AM

Great car,

the front clip with 57 desoto bumper and NYer chrome lip additional with the little scoop looks great
THIS is a cool cruiser


Thanks Tom! The fenders have big indentions for the trim clips, so I kinda "had to" run the Chrysler front trim. After looking at it, I think I like this arrangement better anyway. The weird thing is that Chrysler never put a REAR wheel lip moulding on the cars until 1959. I have a set from a 300E but it's very 'fat' compared to the '57 front trim. I have a pair of slim generic wheel opening trim that I have mostly bent up to shape and will install on the rear.

jboymechanic - 2018-04-10 8:01 AM

What size wheels and tires are on this car? Where did you purchase the tires?

The wheels were custom made a while back. They are 15x5 and 15x7 and use '56 Ford wheel centers, because that was a common thing for the car customizers in the '60s to do. They have a distinctive look. In these pictures, the tires are 7.10-15 all around, but I have a pair of L78-15s for the rear because the 7.10s are just too narrow for those 7" wheels. The L78s are nearly two inches wider and another inch taller.

Thanks for the comments guys. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea and I'm sure Neil is rolling in his grave. I wish he was here to heckle me about it.



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Posted 2018-04-10 12:32 PM (#561353 - in reply to #111659)
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I like the way this car is coming together, mild custum with bad attitude - keep up the good work and keep us posted
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Posted 2018-04-11 1:41 AM (#561388 - in reply to #111659)
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That kind of reminds me of the job Bob did on his De Soto out here...

Keen attention to detail and hang the expense!
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Posted 2018-04-12 11:48 AM (#561449 - in reply to #561388)
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Well, that is an amazing compliment, but Bob's car is probably the finest FL car on the planet and mine is similar only in shape.
For those that don't know of earleebob's '57 Fireflite: http://forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=39513&star...

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Beautiful Car! I'm glad to see it all coming together so nicely.
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Posted 2018-04-13 12:22 AM (#561513 - in reply to #561458)
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I figured out why it was running poorly - an open 3/16 pipe threaded hole in the intake. I plugged it up, and the car runs like a top.
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Posted 2018-04-13 1:03 AM (#561515 - in reply to #561513)
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57burb - 2018-04-13 12:22 AM
I figured out why it was running poorly - an open 3/16 pipe threaded hole in the intake. I plugged it up, and the car runs like a top.


If that was near the rear of the intake manifold, that's probably the port where the vacuum for the power brakes was created.

Check out Powerflite's thread about 392 Dual Quads (lots of discussion about dealing with that fitting):

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=67805&...

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Posted 2018-04-13 1:12 AM (#561516 - in reply to #111659)
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It was either for power brakes or the vacuum for the starter safety switch. Whichever it was, it isn't needed, and I capped that little bas***d. LOL

I got to drive it around a bunch tonight. What a rush to have the car I've dreamed of for so long. You couldn't wipe the grin off my face!
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Posted 2018-04-13 1:15 AM (#561517 - in reply to #561516)
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That's awesome. Congratulations! By the way, I really like those vacuum switches. They make it impossible for anyone to grind the starter into a running motor. You can sit and crank on the starter motor continuously and it will automatically shut off at just the right moment. Makes it more idiot proof.

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57burb
Posted 2018-04-15 9:33 PM (#561696 - in reply to #561517)
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I have a functional neutral safety switch for that!

Drove the car around a bunch today. I have the minor leaks addressed, except the coolant. I keep topping it off, but the overflow spits a little out all the time. I'm thinking about hiding a reservoir to help with it.

Driving it is a blast. Cruises smooth and easy, steeeing is light even at parking lot speeds, and the car just stops perfect. Still have some adjustment to make with the clutch and parking brake, but it's all coming together as a nice cruiser. I just love it.
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Posted 2018-04-16 8:00 PM (#561750 - in reply to #561696)
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57burb - 2018-04-15 9:33 PM. I have the minor leaks addressed, except the coolant. I keep topping it off, but the overflow spits a little out all the time. I'm thinking about hiding a reservoir to help with it.


I would NOT want to be right on this but....

Any chance you have head gasket leak? (Which would pressurize the cooling system and cause coolant to spit out the overflow). Otherwise, I can't think what would cause such spitting.

Good Luck.
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Posted 2018-04-16 10:43 PM (#561758 - in reply to #111659)
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Are you possibly "over filling" the radiator? I catch myself occasionally filling to the top like a sealed system instead of filling just above the core tubes
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Posted 2018-04-16 11:48 PM (#561763 - in reply to #561758)
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Hey, if it's not full, it's not full!

That's all it is. Not a head gasket issue. This is Texas, and summer is coming. I want that last quart in there! Still might put a catch can in it eventually.



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Posted 2018-04-18 2:42 AM (#561818 - in reply to #111659)
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it would be cool to cruise with that cool car.....
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Posted 2018-04-18 6:18 AM (#561821 - in reply to #111659)
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Good work Dan, very cool to see your car mobile at last.
The 57 New Yorker 2 door hardtop is a pinnacle car from the FL era in my opinion, and yours is a beauty!
Need video next!

Steve.

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57burb
Posted 2018-04-24 10:50 AM (#562184 - in reply to #561821)
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I uploaded the most boring video ever made to youtube. I guess you can see that it really does run. The audio is a little tinny. In person the car has a deep rumble that just doesn't come across on a phone recording.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yhiP8uwgi0

I'll see if I can get someone to record it being driven later this week. It is kinda cool going through the gears.
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Posted 2018-04-24 1:05 PM (#562201 - in reply to #111659)
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looks and sounds menacing sitting there in the dark!
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