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Rebels-59
Posted 2008-02-09 2:21 AM (#114147)
Subject: 1957 Desoto Concept.. ??????????



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Wonder if Edward has this on his List.. Anyone heard anything of This, Genuine or Not

On US Ebay..in Sarasota, Florida,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=017&ssp...

Vehicle Description

1957 DESOTO CONCEPT CAR

ONLY ONE IN EXISTENCE!

This european-styled Concept Car was presented by DeSoto sporting a

341 Hemi engine!! . The tranmission is push-button Automatic. This

restoration included an $1800 transmission rebuilt.

The car came with 2-barrell carb and Firedome 341 Hemi.

BE THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD

TO OWN AND DRIVE

THIS TOP-OF-THE-LINE

HISTORIC PRESENTATION VEHICLE!

RESTORATION WILL BE COMPLETE BEFORE DELIVERY!

30-Year Veteran Collector is selling his cars and presenting this wonderful opportunity for an avid classic car enthusiast to own this red hot and fast sports car. This collector's item could well be worth a few hundred thousand dollars in the near future. You won't see this car anywhere else.

Pictures were taken immediately following painting. Chrome bumpers and grill will be replaced.

This ad was presented with the assistance of Classic Cars FL: Link: www.classiccarsfl.com

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Rebels-59
Posted 2008-02-09 2:21 AM (#114148 - in reply to #114147)
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Posted 2008-02-09 2:22 AM (#114149 - in reply to #114147)
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Posted 2008-02-09 2:22 AM (#114150 - in reply to #114147)
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Posted 2008-02-09 2:22 AM (#114151 - in reply to #114147)
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Rebels-59
Posted 2008-02-09 2:24 AM (#114152 - in reply to #114147)
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This is a Question asked by a Ebay member..

Q: What documentation do you have for your claims of factory concept car? Thanks................... Feb-08-08


A: Unfortunately, the engineer who designed this vehicle lives here in Sarasota is elderly and has a little dementia. The title is in the name of the Florida State Representative on the US Government Business Commission. If documentation was readily available, we would sell at over $100,000. We will continue to try to reach the engineer to obtain paperwork....... Thanks for asksing.


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5859
Posted 2008-02-09 3:52 AM (#114162 - in reply to #114147)
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If it is a custom job, they certainly used an awful lot of desoto parts, I wouldn't necessarily expect a customizer to even use Desoto brake and gas pedals, those seats just plain suck.
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345 DeSoto
Posted 2008-02-09 8:08 AM (#114170 - in reply to #114147)
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It looks for all the world, to me, like someone has sectioned and heavily modified an early 50's Mopar Business Coupe, and grafted in a LOT of '57 DeSoto parts...maybe even used a '57 frame. Desoto's last Hurrah was in 1957, and they wouldn't have had a Concept Car...CERTAINLY not a split windshield throw-back design...
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phins
Posted 2008-02-09 11:56 AM (#114185 - in reply to #114147)
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I contacted his about see it and will post what I find out, but I have my doubts. His web site says his business in St Petersburg only after looking his phone number up, as his address isn't anywhere to be found. and his listing says the car is in Sarasota.

PS, I don't think that's the original stick holding the trunk open, The original stick would have been painted red.
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4wardlook
Posted 2008-02-09 12:18 PM (#114187 - in reply to #114147)
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no way thats real! that looks like a 50 ply. bus. coupe like said before, plus i dont think they would have used 53 Buick headlight rings i think Chrysler would have been way Forward then that !

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59savoy
Posted 2008-02-09 12:51 PM (#114190 - in reply to #114187)
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great steering wheel!
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Posted 2008-02-09 2:17 PM (#114196 - in reply to #114147)
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345 DeSoto - 2008-02-09 7:08 AM It looks for all the world, to me, like someone has sectioned and heavily modified an early 50's Mopar Business Coupe, and grafted in a LOT of '57 DeSoto parts...maybe even used a '57 frame. Desoto's last Hurrah was in 1957, and they wouldn't have had a Concept Car...CERTAINLY not a split windshield throw-back design...

Actually I thought DeSoto sold pretty well up until the 1959 model year. After that Chrysler decided to pull the plug because its market niche was gone. But that is no one-off dream car. It carries a lot of stock 1957 DeSoto parts but the styling says "Suddenly it's 1950!" with the split windshield and all.

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roadkillontheweb
Posted 2008-02-09 2:53 PM (#114202 - in reply to #114147)
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Wrecked 57 Desoto stripped of parts and put on a cut up early 50s Plymouth sedan that has been shortened and butchered.
Yeah it's a concept car!
Something tells me the guy that made ths may have had mental problems before the dementia set in. Looks like a late 50s custom creation to me!
If anybody falls for this and pays anything more than what the hemi and various other parts are worth they have more money than brains.

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roadkillontheweb
Posted 2008-02-09 3:07 PM (#114206 - in reply to #114147)
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Bucket seats from an 80s car?
Cd radio in the console.
Dash trim behind the guage cluster and shifter is 1959 Plymouth
Virgil Exner would have shot the guy that made this!
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Posted 2008-02-09 3:12 PM (#114207 - in reply to #114206)
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This is clearly an older custom, no way this would be manufactured by DeSoto! 4wardlook is right, if they would built a prototype it would look something close to a space shuttle! This car is out of line. And what is so much technical advancement in this car? Why built such a prototype, no this is just bull...

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roadkillontheweb
Posted 2008-02-09 5:11 PM (#114217 - in reply to #114147)
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I sent an email outlining the statements I said above and here is the response I got.

I pride myself on my honesty and have been led "down the garden path.


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Posted 2008-02-09 5:12 PM (#114218 - in reply to #114147)
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The slogan for this car is SUDDENLY ITS ! 1950.... it looks to me like a 1950 s kit car and someone had a wrecked Desoto!!!HAPPY MOTORING!
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Posted 2008-02-09 5:16 PM (#114219 - in reply to #114147)
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looks like a modified Woodhill Wildfire from early 50's
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Posted 2008-02-09 6:45 PM (#114241 - in reply to #114147)
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In the guys defense, it appears that he has now changed the ad to read Desoto sports car and custom, and is not refering to it as a prototype anymore.
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Rebels-59
Posted 2008-02-09 6:55 PM (#114243 - in reply to #114241)
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5859 - 2008-02-09 11:45 PM

In the guys defense, it appears that he has now changed the ad to read Desoto sports car and custom, and is not refering to it as a prototype anymore.


Also if you read this Guys Webpage, He is NOT the Owner , He Sells Classic Cars for the Owners Only, So maybe he is Correct , As in he has been " Led Up The Garden Path "


This is a Copy of his Website..

Classic Car FL is an automobile broker
and service business targeted to Classic Car
owners and buyers.

What We Do:--

Contract to advertise and sell classic cars via
internet sales, specialty brochures and classic
car shows.

Provide a service to those individuals in today's
busy society to obtain buyers for their vehicles
or vessels or locate a particular classic favorite

http://www.classiccarsfl.com/yahoo_site_admin/aboutus.html

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narleycharlie
Posted 2008-02-10 12:54 AM (#114297 - in reply to #114147)
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What an ugly car , but wait they spent a whole 1800 on the tranny , must be special .
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Posted 2008-02-10 7:23 AM (#114314 - in reply to #114147)
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I, too contacted the seller, and am convinced the car is a plaything for someone who wants a fun car, NOT a piece of history. Cupholders in 1957?
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Posted 2008-02-10 9:05 AM (#114316 - in reply to #114147)
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Well, I guess there's one certain way to find out what your car really is....try to sell it as what it ISN'T...
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KcImperial
Posted 2008-02-10 11:29 AM (#114352 - in reply to #114147)
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Concept or custom, I have no idea. I do like the push buttons relocated to the center console though. They never seem to get the flash appeal to passengers while hidden on the left side of the steering wheel.
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roadkillontheweb
Posted 2008-02-10 3:10 PM (#114379 - in reply to #114352)
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KcImperial - 2008-02-10 10:29 AM

Concept or custom, I have no idea. I do like the push buttons relocated to the center console though. They never seem to get the flash appeal to passengers while hidden on the left side of the steering wheel.


I always wondered why people that made hotrods using early hemis didn't mount the pushbutton shifter under their, seats. As long as the driver knows the pattern by feel every one else will be confused looking for the shifter. You can always tell you passengers it is voice activated and holler out drive (or reverse) and hit the button without them seeing it?
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Posted 2008-02-11 8:15 AM (#114472 - in reply to #114314)
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the car is only about 8 miles from me in the next town but the seller hasn't replied so I guess he must have figured it a fake and just wants the listing to end quietly.
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