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Lancer Mike
Posted 2018-05-24 5:22 PM (#563981 - in reply to #563953)
Subject: Re: 1958 DeSoto Data Tag



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Thanks, Ed!  That clears it up.  I was looking at Doc's plate and White's plate and thinking they did not make sense.

However, as you note, Fireflites and Adventures did not have a code number there because the sweep was standard.

 

So this tag should look like this car:

 



Edited by Lancer Mike 2018-05-24 5:54 PM




(Mikes Tag.jpg)



(1958 DeSoto Firedome Color Study.jpg)



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2018-06-09 5:48 PM (#564902 - in reply to #563981)
Subject: Re: 1958 DeSoto Data Tag



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Here's the sedan that was recently for sale





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Lancer Mike
Posted 2018-07-13 5:56 PM (#566559 - in reply to #564902)
Subject: Re: 1958 DeSoto Data Tag



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If the color sweep code was like the '57s, you would expect my car to have a 1 under CS.

The Fireflite sedan also had no number under CS, where you might expect a 1 for a monotone car.

 

Mayhap the solid color code on both cars (PPP in my case, CCC on the sedan) said it all and no number under the CS was necessary?



Edited by Lancer Mike 2018-07-13 5:59 PM
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Chrycoman
Posted 2018-07-13 6:23 PM (#566560 - in reply to #566559)
Subject: Re: 1958 DeSoto Data Tag



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Lancer Mike - 2018-07-13 5:56 PM

If the color sweep code was like the '57s, you would expect my car to have a 1 under CS.

The Fireflite sedan also had no number under CS, where you might expect a 1 for a monotone car.



The numbers on the tag are for options. Your car has the standard single colour style and thus not an option. No number results in less confusion on the assembly line.

As the various assembly plants were taken over and placed under the Car Assembly Division, the sales codes, body tags and the build records were simplified by having all divisions and assembly plants use the same basic information. Sales codes were the same for all (except for items unique to same makes - such as the optional rear arm rests on base Plymouths and Dodges) for the 1959 model year and the build records followed. The body tag layout became the same for all by 1960, but the recording of the information on the tag did not become standardized until the 1965 model year.

Thus the changes from year to year in how things were done from 1956 through 1960.

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Lancer Mike
Posted 2018-07-13 6:25 PM (#566561 - in reply to #566559)
Subject: Re: 1958 DeSoto Data Tag



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...or my car looked more like this?





(1958 DeSoto Firedome Color Study 2.jpg)



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-07-23 10:20 PM (#567106 - in reply to #564902)
Subject: Re: 1958 DeSoto Data Tag



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I have a question. According to the WPC News magazine, DeSoto made 17,479 Firedomes in 1958. And if the
VIN numbers started at 1000, does that mean the highest VIN on a Firedome was 18,479 ?
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2018-07-23 11:15 PM (#567109 - in reply to #567106)
Subject: Re: 1958 DeSoto Data Tag



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There were 16,409 US-built Firedomes in 1958, with the other 1,070 Firedomes built in Canada.  That may affect the VIN numbers (not sure?).  Bill will know.

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=44213&posts=3&highlight=de%20soto%20production&highlightmode=1#M345352



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Chrycoman
Posted 2018-07-24 12:02 AM (#567110 - in reply to #127473)
Subject: Re: 1958 DeSoto Data Tag



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Production by assembly plant -

Firedome - LS2 :
Wyoming Avenue - 16,409
Windsor - 1,070

Fireflite & Adventurer - LS3 :
Wyoming Avenue - 12,552

DeSoto included Adventurer production with the Fireflite for the total LS3

For serial numbers -

Firedome :
Wyoming Avenue - LS2-1001 to LS2-17409
Windsor - LS2W-1001 to LS2W-2070

Fireflite & Adventurer :
Wyoming Avenue - LS3-1001 to LS3-13552

The serial numbers for cars built at the Detroit plants did not have a letter for the assembly plant.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-07-24 10:12 AM (#567131 - in reply to #567110)
Subject: Re: 1958 DeSoto Data Tag



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Thanks guys.
Firedome 16949. = 460 from the end. The youngest 58 DeSoto still out there ?
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