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LD3 Greg
Posted 2020-03-25 12:44 AM (#595985 - in reply to #595978)
Subject: RE: 1958 Regal Lancer


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Lancer Mike - 2020-03-24 8:54 PM

Thanks for sharing Greg:

 

Interesting to see they have a TEXAN code.

A couple of questions:

Is the hood ornament code any different for the Regal?

Is there a code for the Acousti-foam headliner?



Hi Mike.
Short answer, I don’t know. But, for a Regal, I am sure that trim code 277 tells the whole story for the factory build team with respect to hood ornaments and headliner and all the other Regal specific items.

The punch card only needs to do two things:
1. It contains sufficient information to build the car as it was ordered.
2. It contains sufficient information to invoice the car as it was built.

Those are the only two things a manufacturing facility must do to be successful.

When we see penciled key lock numbers and engine numbers and build date on the card we know the process is complete. The car got built as ordered and was invoiced as such!

Greg
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springsweptwing
Posted 2020-03-25 10:56 AM (#596002 - in reply to #595979)
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56D500boy - 2020-03-25 2:57 AM

Lancer Mike - 2020-03-24 5:54 PM Is the hood ornament code any different for the Regal?


There is a separate listing for the Right, LD3-H Regal Lancer and Left, LD3-H Regal Lancer57-58 Regal Lancer Hood top Ornament, in two parts 1686 330 and 1686 331.

Here is a link to a right one (330):

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/MOPAR-NOS-1957-1958-DODGE-LANCER-REGAL-FRONT...

and this very strange listing for both:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-58-DODGE-D500-CUSTOM-ROYAL-LANCER-HOOD...





Hi Mike,

Those are standard 58 Dodge, Regal Lancer used the 57 hood ornaments which are handed, but mounted in the 58 position.

Thanks Paul.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2020-03-25 8:41 PM (#596028 - in reply to #596002)
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Yeah, those eBay listings are definitely NOT Regal.

The reason I asked about the Acousti-Foam coding was that I know all Regals came with Acousti-Foam headliner, but I had a Coronet two-door hardtop that also came equipped with Acousti-Foam - which seems very unusual in anything but a Regal!

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LD3 Greg
Posted 2020-03-26 12:51 AM (#596041 - in reply to #596028)
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Lancer Mike - 2020-03-25 8:41 PM

Yeah, those eBay listings are definitely NOT Regal.

The reason I asked about the Acousti-Foam coding was that I know all Regals came with Acousti-Foam headliner, but I had a Coronet two-door hardtop that also came equipped with Acousti-Foam - which seems very unusual in anything but a Regal!



Yeah, I know, Mike and Paul. Those eBay postings should never have been posted here!! Just pure ignorance!!

This is certainly a puzzle. In Neils extensive research he found countless examples of stuff like you describe. The only paper trail he ever found were broadcast sheets with pencilled in notes that seemed to address odd things!! Just as if an order was placed and there was an Oh, Yeah, I also want this!

Might need to ask Karl Pippard. Maybe he can shed some light on it. Maybe he already has in the 56 Dodge and CK cars where he clearly showed that CK's cars had special order codes.

Maybe the factory had standard packages offered for sale that fit the paperwork we have. Anything beyond that was a special order and had it's own purchase order code or number??

Did you get the punch card for the Coronet you had?

Greg
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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-03-26 12:08 PM (#596061 - in reply to #144239)
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Canada actually listed a part number for a "silencer" in its 58 book, but not sure if this was the accoustic headliner... maybe just a filler pad?

Canada parts books run circles around the US crap... Part number match US number btw.

Take a look at their trim diagrams! simple and full part numbers...





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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-03-26 12:14 PM (#596062 - in reply to #144239)
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If you notice... I think the Spring Special was maybe supposed to get a new "hood ornament" also.. but didnt?...
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springsweptwing
Posted 2020-03-26 12:43 PM (#596065 - in reply to #596061)
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mikes2nd - 2020-03-26 5:08 PM

Canada actually listed a part number for a "silencer" in its 58 book, but not sure if this was the accoustic headliner... maybe just a filler pad?

Canada parts books run circles around the US crap... Part number match US number btw.

Take a look at their trim diagrams! simple and full part numbers...



No that's just the insulation between headliner and steel roof, same part number listed for 1959.



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2020-03-26 7:26 PM (#596083 - in reply to #596041)
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LD3 Greg - 2020-03-25 10:51 PM Did you get the punch card for the Coronet you had? Greg

I did not (that I recall)!  But I know the current owner - I'll ask.  I always wondered if Acousti-Foam (or whatever they called it) was called out on either the punch card or the data plate...

 

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LD3 Greg
Posted 2020-03-26 11:37 PM (#596100 - in reply to #596083)
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Lancer Mike - 2020-03-26 7:26 PM

LD3 Greg - 2020-03-25 10:51 PM Did you get the punch card for the Coronet you had? Greg

I did not (that I recall)!  But I know the current owner - I'll ask.  I always wondered if Acousti-Foam (or whatever they called it) was called out on either the punch card or the data plate...

 



Good thought. You and I both have been surprised what can show up on body plates! Personally, I don't think it will because that headliner doesn't influence body assembly parts and procedures. But, Hey, neither do sun visors!!
Maybe he could provide a pic of the body plate?

Greg
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