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Lancer Mike
Posted 2008-09-09 6:57 PM (#144239)
Subject: 1958 Regal Lancer



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You read right, a REGAL LANCER. This is not my car. If you are interested, contact Jim at miz7@comcast.net . I think he is asking $29,500 and I believe it is in the Detroit area on Craigslist.  I don't think Jim is a member.

If you are a purist, don't look. I like the naked babe pinstriping motif.



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Rebels-59
Posted 2008-09-09 7:06 PM (#144241 - in reply to #144239)
Subject: Re: 1958 Regal Lancer



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Mike,, That is HOT........I especially like the " Frenched Rear Antenna,s.. Pinstriping is neat as Well.. But Under the Hood needs Tidying for my liking,,

You are Brave Posting This AS i think Neil may have something to Say about it ... LOL
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1959Dodge
Posted 2008-09-09 7:15 PM (#144242 - in reply to #144241)
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Very rare car. I have a friend with a "Bone Stock" one. It even has AC and every option that Dodge offered in 58

Gary
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2008-09-09 10:07 PM (#144260 - in reply to #144242)
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Mind you, I did post a warning! I asked Jim if he had any of the original interior parts - nope! all that's left is the steering wheel. This is such a rare car that I had to find out more about it. For the Frostbite (love the name), you have to pay for the customizer's tastes. It is not my cup o' tea, but it may be the right car at the right price for someone else.

MoPar Ivar! I have talked to him about his Regal, but I have never seen a picture. Gary, if you can get a picture from him, I would be eternally grateful! From me, that is not much because it is a status you already have, but nonetheless - I would really appreciate it.

Neil, of course you are welcome to run down the list on this one - it is too exhausting for me (perhaps too painful). It does appear to be the real deal. I asked Jim for the data tag numbers, but he did not respond to that request. I would expect a body code of 373 and a paint code of 5XSX or 5SXS less likely 5ASA or 5SAS - but who knows.
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1959Dodge
Posted 2008-09-09 10:50 PM (#144268 - in reply to #144260)
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I will look and see if I have any pictures of the Regal Lancer, I know When Kent came over from Sweden, We took some pictures of it, If I don't have any, I will get ya some NP
PS aren't ya glad ya bought that Desoto?
Absolutely Gorgeous!!!

Gary
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1959Dodge
Posted 2008-09-09 10:57 PM (#144269 - in reply to #144239)
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ok car was in Shop so didn't get great pics but this may wet your appetite



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grant4405
Posted 2008-09-09 10:59 PM (#144270 - in reply to #144260)
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i think this is one of the worst sacrileges i have ever seen done to a TRULY rare classic. i hope virgil and walter c. strike whoever did this deaf and dumb b/c they are already stupid. there are plenty of CRLs around to mutilate. by the way, i have an orginal ivory and bronze one in my garage and i am going out right now and give it a big hug and tell it how sorry i am about its cousin.
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bad58mike
Posted 2008-09-09 11:03 PM (#144272 - in reply to #144239)
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that poor lancer, he should get a ticket for "cruelty to a dodge". Just kidding to each his own
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1959Dodge
Posted 2008-09-09 11:09 PM (#144273 - in reply to #144272)
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lets "Get a Rope" Mike
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Posted 2008-09-09 11:19 PM (#144276 - in reply to #144239)
Subject: Re: 1958 Regal Lancer



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So what the heck is it doing in a "shop", Gary?

Is this fully loaded 1958 Dodge Regal Lancer Super D-500 nothing more than a trailer queen? Too d@mn beautiful to just sit and watch the air leak out the tires.....
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1959Dodge
Posted 2008-09-09 11:25 PM (#144277 - in reply to #144276)
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It is a gorgeous car, I have never seen Aivar trailer one of his cars, on the other hand, I have never seen this one driven. It is fully loaded like you said, even 2 , 4 barrels. The car was used by Dodge at some Big Show, similar to Motorama , when it was new, Hence all the options----Dodge wanted to show what they could do in 58.

Gary
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Posted 2008-09-09 11:43 PM (#144278 - in reply to #144239)
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You could bet the farm that if that baby was mine, she'd be driven all over the place - the Regal Lancer is right at the top with the '59 Fury 2 door hardtop as my favorite car, FL or otherwise.

No comment on "frostbite".....
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2008-09-09 11:49 PM (#144280 - in reply to #144277)
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Holy Mamacita! THANK YOU GARY!!!! Aivar is allowed to do what ever he wants to with it. There are few better friends of Forward Look than he! Wowee - what a specimen. I noticed it has air conditioning too! That car is a total flabbergaster. It is a stark contrast to the Frostbite - oh, what could have been. However, you never know what the Frostbite may have looked like before it was customized - it could have been a total basket case. If it was, any save is a good save.

Pat, now you have to post a photo of yours!!! To me, these Regals are the cat's pajamas among all Forward Lookers. There is another Regal around these parts. Black body with copper roof, trunk, and spear. Super D500 too. It came out of Kansas and landed in the Denver area. I have seen photos, but I have never seen the car itself. Showing it's age, but not bad and quite original.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2008-09-10 12:00 AM (#144281 - in reply to #144280)
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Pat is yours the same as Aivar's or the reverse? Nick Nichols in San Francisco has the reverse of Aivar's. With the photos of Aivar's (THANKS AGAIN GARY) I think I have now seen all the color combinations. Regals are flat-out just the BOMB!

I appreciate Regals so deeply that I can even see the beauty in the Frostbite. I yam who I yam and I cannot turn my back on a Regal. I don't care what condition it is in or what has been done to it - every single one of them is a very special car.

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Posted 2008-09-10 2:59 AM (#144293 - in reply to #144239)
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Well, see, your Uncle Henry loved his new Lazy-Boy recliner so much, he bought four more and put 'em in the car !

Just kidding. To each his own, I guess.
Sure makes me feel a lot less guilty about adding a coupla non-stock floormats, I tell ya.... .

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d500neil
Posted 2008-09-10 8:00 PM (#144366 - in reply to #144239)
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Aivar's Regal is a very heavily optioned single-4-bbl D500 .

It was (correctly) re-upholstered and clear-seat-covered by my local auto upholstery shop, in Bishop.

Except for having non-original vinyl headliner (the "Accousti-Foam" stuff being long-not-available) , the additional
carb, and modern radial tires, it's pretty much in as-built condition, and righteously gorgeous.

Now, about that other car: LOVE its interior detail!

The car looks like it was molested back in the 70's, but most of the unique Regal-pieces appear to be present.

The door and quarter trim panels would be a bitch, to recreate; the unique bronze-tone cloth insert stuff is available at SMS.

Its door jambs are white, so it probably had the same motif, as Aivar's car.

About the only available options that Aivar's car didn't have were the Super D500, rear bumper
guards, and the license plate insert (which were part of the "Bumper Appearance Group" of
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1959Dodge
Posted 2008-09-10 9:06 PM (#144371 - in reply to #144270)
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How about some pics of your car?

Gary
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d500neil
Posted 2008-09-10 9:52 PM (#144373 - in reply to #144371)
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My car's pics are buried somewhere in/on the Members Rides board; I think that there are two threads of pics on it.

My car is not (presently) for sale.

Hate to brag, but, before I retired it from show-competition, it won Best in Class at three
national WPC meets---and almost got best-of-show/Dodge at Colorado Springs, in 1986,
losing out to a 70 Challenger RT convertible, in Panther Pink.

That's olde gnus, now; I'm driving and enjoying it, and its 2.76:1 rear end gearset, now....


And, oh yeah, you can also see it on the Tulsarama board pics....drove it there, ya'know;
1600+ miles; 6 days on the road. Had the OEM 3.36:1 installed for that trip, however;
got a little under 14MPG, at 65+ mph, and some around-town driving, for the trip.

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1959Dodge
Posted 2008-09-10 10:46 PM (#144378 - in reply to #144373)
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boy loosing out to a pink Challenger, some of these shows have wierd classes, like the one Borje was just in.
The class ran all the way from the 50's to late 60's not quite as bad as the one you were in thou.
Speaking of "Pink Cars", I asked Aivar about the original color of the 58 New yorker, you were close.
I sure like the color of it now. Close to an original color, Spruce Green, as I recall, but with some Steroids added.

Gary
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Posted 2008-09-10 10:47 PM (#144379 - in reply to #144239)
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This kind of stuff is just never gonna end is it? An expert who rubs people the wrong way, and people who are rubbed the wrong way firing back. Geez it's getting old on both sides. Wish I had that 58 regal, not blue freeze or what ever the name is, but the one that belongs to Avair. Very classy car.
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Posted 2008-09-10 10:57 PM (#144383 - in reply to #144379)
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God that interior is awful!LOL
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1959Dodge
Posted 2008-09-10 10:58 PM (#144385 - in reply to #144379)
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not sure what ya means 5859, I think that was a bad call, a 57 Dodge lossing to a car that is still very common, challenger. So certainly not taking shots at Neil. He did say the 58
Chrysler was originally Coral, Aivar tells me, it was pink----so was "Close", cant recall what Dodge called the pink color, but I dont think they called it pink in 59---they may have in 55 or 56 when they made the "La Femme"

Gary
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1959Dodge
Posted 2008-09-10 11:02 PM (#144386 - in reply to #144383)
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I kinda thought the Cadillac Wreath, tied it all together (The Interior)
I hafta agree with you-----hard to look at one like that, after seeing
"The Real Thing"

Gary
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Posted 2008-09-10 11:04 PM (#144388 - in reply to #144239)
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Well, you call it how you see it Gary, fine by me. Your telling me you have never seen Neils car, all the time you have been on this site? Or maybe you were asking to see a picture of someone elses car? In that case I am wrong, but Neil certainly thought you meant his with his retort and brag about how his car won a couple of awards.
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1959Dodge
Posted 2008-09-10 11:14 PM (#144390 - in reply to #144388)
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I was hoping to see pictures of the other regal Lancer, I thought I had responded to the Gentleman that said He had one. but always glad to see more pictures of Neil's car Yes I have seen pics of Neil's car.
I can't find the post now, but seems like somebody said they had , or they had seen a Black and Bronze 58 Regal Lancer, Like Lancer Mike, I would enjoy seeing pics of any of those cars---I had never seen one till Aivar's.
Gary

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Posted 2008-09-10 11:21 PM (#144394 - in reply to #144239)
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Then I apologies for jumping to conclusions, I guess Neil did too.
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1959Dodge
Posted 2008-09-10 11:24 PM (#144396 - in reply to #144394)
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NP, probably my fault, meant to repond in the box where the guy said He had one, eyes are what they usta be, so probably grabbed Neils box instead
I think I forgot to hit the "Reply button" Oh well.
I have a lotta things to Thank Aivar for, His was the 1st 59 Dodge Convertible , I ever saw and ditto the Regal Lancer

Gary


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d500neil
Posted 2008-09-13 5:35 PM (#144670 - in reply to #144239)
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Chuckle-chuckle-sigh....

Where were we...oh, yeah; nothing important, but, the way that WPC meets are (or, WERE, anyway) judged is by the
members who have entered cars in that particular meet.

The number of 1st place votes, in each class, are compared against the number of 1st place votes in all the other
categories-classes, so, all the highest-placing car models are compared with each other.

My car won its class, as did that Challenger, so, the margin-of-victory was somehow compared between all the highest placing
Dodges, and that Challenger reportedly just beat out my car for Best in Show Dodge.




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Lancer Mike
Posted 2008-09-13 11:35 PM (#144707 - in reply to #144670)
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Pat Grant has a Regal in the same color scheme as Aivar's. Pat is in the mid-west and is an astute authority on the ultra-rare Regals, having a long history with that particular model. Although he aspired to own one since they were a new model, he bought his first right here on this site several years ago. That may tell you how hard these are to find! He is aware of a few others across the country and one in Canada. Pat sent me a few personal messages, perhaps we can see a picture of Pat's Regal in the near future. The Frostbite may yet be a good candidate for someone out there!
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Posted 2008-09-14 12:21 AM (#144715 - in reply to #144707)
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Al's Auto Wrecking up Arlington way had a Regal sitting next to a pair of 57-58 2HTs. One was a mess, but the Regal (black and bronze) and a coral and white CRL really were spectacular cars that should have been saved. I wish I had had the foresight and place to have stuffed cars like these away for 30 years.
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Posted 2008-09-14 1:22 AM (#144719 - in reply to #144715)
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For having produced 1163 (IIRC) of them, quite a few Regals gave survived.

Maybe they don't change hands very often; but, they ARE out there.

I have quite a few photos of various of them, in varying states of assembly.

I even have a Regal introductory Press Kit, complete with original jacket.

One day, if Darrell Davis lives long enough (he's the guy who is researching the H.S. files for Fury & D500 & D501, etc., build records---btw, he's found 92 of the purported 102 501's built, but, we know of at least two additional prototype Coronets (a HT and a sedan) which probably were converted by CHRY Engineering, and/or were privately converted (the sedan), but which did receive real-numbered D501 engines.

As the 57-58 D500's were produced in the multi-thousands, their research may be quite lengthy.

Maybe Darrell might be induced to find the Regals, in regards to the production of D500s in their series, but also to confirm the break-out between the 4 color combinations.





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Posted 2008-09-14 8:04 AM (#144728 - in reply to #144383)
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chrycopsycho - 2008-09-10 10:57 PM

God that interior is awful!LOL

I agree.... I admit im a purist when it comes to the exterior and interior..... in my ride im haveing the
interior redone to factory specs, but might change the color scheme as I dont want white seats. I feel
when you ugrade the interior to a new era, like 80's, 90's .......excetra..... it takes the nostalgia feel
away from the car, thats just my opinion..... plus change the steering wheel back to stock also.....
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2008-09-14 1:31 PM (#144754 - in reply to #144728)
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Ok, I admit before a candid world: I would like to sit each of the seats of the Frostbite - just to see how comfortable those things are!

Neil 1163 sounds right to me. I remember we once had a thread about survival rates. It seems we decided the more expensive cars probably had higher survival rates than the plain Jane el Strippos. Even at the ridiculously high 20%, you would only expect 236 of them left. I suspect closer to the 5% to 10% range or 78 to 116 remaining. All just conjecture.

Of the very little known about '58 Dodge production with the Spring Specials et. cetera, the Regals are a known quantity. Which is fun stuff.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2008-09-16 4:55 PM (#144958 - in reply to #144754)
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Pat sent me some pictures of his delightful eggshell and copper Regal along with the following message:

it has been parked in the garage since i got it back from the bodyshop. the relationship did not end well. still need to replace the front seats. easier to send the pics to you than figure out how to post on forward look.





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d500neil
Posted 2008-09-17 9:04 PM (#145075 - in reply to #144239)
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Notice that the 58 Regals DID have 1957 hood ornaments installed on it, and with the 57'ers located in the
1958's wider-spaced installation, on the hood.

Nice car; what kind of headliner does it have in it? Certainly not the OEM "Accousta-foam" stuff????

It would be neat to confirm the number of the D-5's, Supr-D's, and the color-combo break-outs
on the Regals.

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grant4405
Posted 2008-09-17 9:30 PM (#145077 - in reply to #145075)
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this one has a white textured vinyl in it with vinyl strips over the joints. it is original . i dont know exactly what the acoustifoam stuff is you are talking about. none of the pictures of the other RLs i have showed the headliner. pat
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Nick Nichols
Posted 2008-09-18 1:17 AM (#145107 - in reply to #145077)
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Here are some shots of my '58 Regal Lancer. I try to drive it at least once a month. Nick



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Posted 2008-09-18 2:14 AM (#145112 - in reply to #144239)
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Whoa - and a D-500 to boot!!!!!

Who the heck threw those seat covers on there, Nick?
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Nick Nichols
Posted 2008-09-18 10:06 AM (#145128 - in reply to #145112)
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I don't think it is a real D500. The emblem looks old but the engine is the 350. Somebody just put the emblem on there probably a long time ago. I've had the car about eight years and the seats were like that when I bought it. I actually like the black. The headliner is also a black vinyl. It is a fun car. Very enjoyable every time I take it out. The chrome is fair, body is good, basically a great driver but not super nice so I don't worry about it when I take it out.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2008-09-18 1:38 PM (#145139 - in reply to #145128)
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That is awesome, Nick! I have admired that car for a long time. Pat, the acoustafoam liner used to come standard in the Coronets. It is a soft foam application to the regular perforated hard-board headliner. I have also heard that the Regals came with a copper colored hard-board or acoustafoam headliner, but you have an original headliner white hard-board headliner! New things to be learned every day. Here is a picture of the Regal sold at barrett-jackson in January 2008. This was the one featured in Collectible Automobile and owned by a avid MoPar collector who died recently - I can't recall his name as I write this...



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2008-09-18 2:22 PM (#145147 - in reply to #145075)
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d500neil - 2008-09-17 7:04 PM

Notice that the 58 Regals DID have 1957 hood ornaments installed on it, and with the 57'ers located in the
1958's wider-spaced installation, on the hood.

It would be neat to confirm the number of the D-5's, Supr-D's, and the color-combo break-outs
on the Regals.


And they are the '57 CRL hood ornaments with the big fins! If you have some contact with Mr. Davis, it would be really neat to confirm D's, Super-D's, and color-combo's! If you did a regression based on even distribution, you would expect about 75 Regals with the D-500 option (both D-500 and Super D-500). I have never seen a breakout of the '58 D-500's as to what percentage of the D-500's were Superized (as President Bush might say)!
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d500neil
Posted 2008-09-18 8:41 PM (#145198 - in reply to #144239)
Subject: Re: 1958 Regal Lancer



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Pat, I'm gonna have to call you out, on your headliner being OEM.

The factory installed a bronze-ish open-cell foam finish headliner, that did NOT hold up well, at all.

The Accoustafoam(sp?) headliner was specifically mentioned in the factory literature.

I will go home tonite and send some pics to Cleeve, or someone, to post here, as evidence of that OEM finish detail.

Depending upon the environment (geographical, climatological, physical) the headliners had varying extents of service life
and they tended to look bad, once they got scratched or dirty; no practical way to clean or to repair them.




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d500neil
Posted 2008-09-18 8:48 PM (#145201 - in reply to #144239)
Subject: Re: 1958 Regal Lancer



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Nick has some AMAZING appearing hood ornaments on his car!

They look to be 1957-style, but their fins are almost standing straight up (like the SMALL fins, on the 58 ornaments, do-do).

Pat's car has the correct 1957-style ornaments on it, as does that bronze/black car, above here.

BTW, the shield emblem is facing the wrong way, on the bronze/black car....

AND,. I'll bet (just a SWAG, here:) Nick probably owns the rarest/least-produced color combination
of the 4 Regal styles.







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grant4405
Posted 2008-09-18 10:03 PM (#145213 - in reply to #145198)
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10-4 on the headliner. it must have been replaced a very long time ago. vinyl has held up well. wish i could say the same for the the plastic strips. been thinking of trying to find some chrome ones. now that i know the headliner is not original may go ahead with the project.
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Nick Nichols
Posted 2008-09-18 10:19 PM (#145215 - in reply to #145213)
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Nick here. It's hard to tell from the photos of my '58 but the fins on the hood ornaments are slanted as they should be. The photos aren't taken straight on which makes them seem as if they are straight up.
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d500neil
Posted 2008-09-18 10:20 PM (#145216 - in reply to #144239)
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Well, fudge; I'm back @ the office with the Press Kit.

Gonna send some pics to Clive, so, when he wakes up, he can send em here; even got the part numbers for the Accousti-Foam
(that's how it's spelled) headliners, if anyone wants to go order it from Your Friendly Dodge Dealer.....

Also, I've included the P/N's for the hood ornaments, and they show a late 1956 (i.e.: 1957 model year application) numbering.

So, with no further ado... Clive!!!!???




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Lancer Mike
Posted 2008-09-19 1:13 AM (#145234 - in reply to #145216)
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The other little detail about that copper and black car was that it had a flat crest on the grille.

I had thought that the Regals were supposed to come with the Custom Royal (red-and-gold) crest on the grille. Obviously, the bulk of the evidence shows that the black and silver (Royal) is more likely correct. All of this spring trim stuff is difficult to keep straight.

Interestingly, from what I have seen, the black combinations appear to be fewer surviving.

That might be a result of the black cars being more difficult to keep clean. After some time, the owner might say "to heck with it, I won't wash it anymore" and then the decline starts in earnest until the dump claims 'em. Of the ones I know of, four are the eggshell combinations and only one is black.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2008-09-19 1:21 AM (#145236 - in reply to #145234)
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A picture of the black and copper headliner. Not Accousti-Foam, but as good a reproduction as possible I suppose.



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2008-09-19 1:27 AM (#145237 - in reply to #145236)
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This car is supposedly a Regal, but I have never seen another picture of it. Interesting, eh? Do you think a Regal was ever equipped with fin caps and the wide eschutcheon? I think it would look awesome!



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2008-09-19 1:39 AM (#145238 - in reply to #145237)
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Two at a show somewhere on the east cost and another shot that may be one of the two. I talked to the fellow who owns the Regal in the foreground. He said it was a small show and he didn't plan it and he didn't know the other owner until they met that day. It just happened by coincidence!

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