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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2008-10-26 1:45 PM (#149629)
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After many starts and stalls, the shop project got rolling with an ad on Craigslist offering all the plants from my gardens to clear the grounds. Step two has been to remove about a foot of topsoil from the front 25 feet of the lot and run it through a 1/2" sifter. The front entry (the wife would like to park her car in the garage portion) will be to the right side and the driveway slab is being bedded with all the rock from the sifting operation. It has taken two weeks to do this by hand. With the slab in place, the garage in the rear of the photo will be moved forward and placed there for the winter. With the garage out of the way, the water and sewer lines can be dug in from where this shot was taken to about 40' beyond the back of where the garage sits. THEN the real work of foundations and walls can begin !

Snow will be the deciding factor on how far I get this season. If walls and a roof can be in before the snow flies, then work can proceed over the winter. If not, then I'll just wait it out until spring.

Hoping for no snow until January !



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61plymy
Posted 2008-10-26 3:17 PM (#149639 - in reply to #149629)
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Brent,

That's a lot of sifting just to get some gravel!!

Hate to tell you, but we've already had snow here at about the 3800 foot level. In fact if I don't get into my mountain sites this week for fall maintenance, I may not get in till Spring.

I have not been able to tear away here. Not even had a hunt yet. I have a feeling business is going to just about die and I've got to get these projects done. A bird in the hand you know.

How are you going to mave that old garage? A house mover or are you a really strong guy??

Mike
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2008-10-26 3:44 PM (#149643 - in reply to #149639)
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"How are you going to mave that old garage? A house mover or are you a really strong guy??"

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Jack it up, put rails under it and stick pipe between the two. Just roll it up the lot ! It might take a truck to pull it up the slight incline, but no big shakes.

Yes, the gravel deal is a lot of work. The bottom line is the cost of removing this dirt off site and then buying new fills - gravel, sand, topsoils later ! No one ever accused me of having more brains than brawn.

Where are you doing work at 3800 ft. ?

We hit snow both coming and going to get the DeSoto clip from John down at Big M a couple weeks back. It is actually warmer now than it was then.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2008-11-01 4:59 PM (#150296 - in reply to #149643)
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This whole shop idea was borne out several years ago and has slowly refined itself along the way. One of the base ideas involved zoning restrictions and property line setbacks.

A trip to the City Planning Dept. got me a wad of information, including the news that zoning rules that I based the shop on have changed since I started planning and they no longer allow a number of things I wanted .... like plumbing, and the size of the building must be reduced by almost half ! ... and no second story, ... or no walls over 14' high to allow for a second story later .... I was thrilled.

Second order of business was determining actual property lines. Three different references show me with three different lot frontages. Driving stakes and pulling tapes, nothing added up. with one set of numbers I own about 4' of the neighbors house, with another it was 9' ! In keeping with the "3" theme, it took three trips downtown to finally get someone who could give me real numbers (that added up) to determine a corner pin. This all took a week and hardly a spade was turned on the dirtwork as it is getting dark so early.

The third and final person I spoke with seems a real professional - real go-to attitude - and I am hopeful some "discussion" can be had about all the rule changes and assignment of terms like "primary residence" and "accessory residence" so we can proceed with the plans without too much hoop jumping.

Back to the rock pile, ...
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2008-11-20 1:47 AM (#152638 - in reply to #150296)
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With a shift to rainy weather and daylight savings time, the chances to work on the project have been greatly reduced. I decided to put up a light pole out front so that work could continue after dark. I seem to have caught the attention of nosey neighbor, as the City sent two emmisaries from different departments to make sure "everything was OK". The electrical inspector wants a ground rod at the pole and the engineering guy wants cones around the sand pile in the parking strip. Jumping ahead, I bought a Mig welder and set up tonight to to some work on the project right now, but will ultimately serve to work on the cars once the shop is done. Hired a contractor to do the trenching. Should start that next week. Things keep creeping along.
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big m
Posted 2008-11-20 5:06 PM (#152703 - in reply to #149629)
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Concerned neighbors are a good thing, but nosy neighbors that call in to the city before speaking to you, are ungood.

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2008-11-28 6:29 PM (#153742 - in reply to #152703)
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The nosey neighbor has had the Authorities out to visit or on the phone now five times. First it was electrical, then engineering, then engineering two more times, and then the power company. She's a busy little charmer and I am enjoying putting out all her fires.

The good part of this is I have a good rapport with the inspectors and they are seeing little Miss Busybody for what she is.

On the progress side of things, the first 60 feet of water, sewer, and gas lines went in. Because of the lot shape and size, I went about half way back and stopped, so I could shift all the "stuff" to the now-finished side and then proceed with the digging. All the topsoil is now placed in the dug out garden area and the rock is being loaded onto a dump trailer for use as rip-rap along a friend's river road. All this happened none too soon, as the snow began falling before I got it all done, and some of the finish work may have to wait until spring. I had hoped to flatten out all the dirt piles and sort the rock/bedding/topsoil before the ground froze. I may get a break in the weather, but the plan is to just button it up and be ready for action when spring comes. Next winter I will be welding DeSoto parts in the comfort of a heated shop.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2008-12-09 2:50 PM (#154868 - in reply to #153742)
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Doc, it strikes me that the new building needs a proper name! FDR had the Hermitage, Regan had Camp Davis, Rhett and Scarlett had Terra, the Ewings had Southfork. Might I suggest "Hernando's Hideaway" you can put a little sign out that says "the Doctor is IN"?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2008-12-09 10:02 PM (#154938 - in reply to #154868)
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How about South Park ? Fairplay ? Alma ? Hay Ranch ? Michigan Spur ? Jefferson ? Kenosha ?

I need to post some photos of recent progress. Hired a kid to finish out the dirt sifting and loading out of about 30 cu. yds. of rocks. The weather warmed up and he's really tearing into the dirt piles. It is supposed to be in single digit temps by the weekend, so he's going at it hard.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2008-12-21 1:42 AM (#156261 - in reply to #154938)
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Couple pix of the work. We bottoned things up just minutes before the snow began to fall. It is now under 4 feet of white !



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-02-22 7:52 PM (#164327 - in reply to #156261)
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Knock on wood, .... it appears our eight foot allotment of snow all came in December and we are on the smooth descent towards spring. Still have four feet of glacier-like snowbergs covering the front half of the property. Yesterday the sun came out and I spent the day shoveling snow onto the pavement and any place bare to melt it off quicker. Today it began to rain and I did it all over again. With any luck I can get this place unburied early and have concrete in before summer, leaving all summer to get the structure up. Fingers crossed !
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61plymy
Posted 2009-02-22 8:37 PM (#164332 - in reply to #149629)
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Doc, The snow can't last forever, and so much for "Global Warming" bulls**t.

Spring is coming, and with it the disappearance of snow. We've had enough of it this year, for sure. Time for rain and sun.

Mike
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1959Dodge
Posted 2009-02-22 8:51 PM (#164340 - in reply to #154938)
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How bout "Desoto Depot"

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-02-22 11:27 PM (#164359 - in reply to #164340)
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Hey, .... I like that ! Just paint up a depot sign for the gable end where they typically went with the name "DeSoto" and mileage markers to the next major stops along the line, .... oh yeah, and the altitude. Great call, Gary !
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61plymy
Posted 2009-02-24 12:04 PM (#164607 - in reply to #149629)
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<p>Desoto Despot? </p><p>Doc's Forward Look Station? </p><p>Northwest Desoto Suites, we'll leave the light on for you? </p><p>Doc's Spokanium Horse Powered Farm? </p><p>Doc's Rock City? (I've dug in the ground over there, Doc, and I find more rock than a gravel pit usually). </p><p>The Desoto Barn? </p><p>Second Chance Saloon? </p><p>Doc's Dream Castle? </p><p>I give up for now. </p><p>Mike</p>

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Mope R. Geezer
Posted 2009-02-28 10:38 PM (#165296 - in reply to #149629)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-03-10 12:44 AM (#166350 - in reply to #149629)
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$#@! it !!! Got another half foot of snow today.

Had it almost all melted off on Sunday.

Supposed to be back up into the 50's by this weekend.

Will it ever end ?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-04-02 11:56 PM (#169167 - in reply to #166350)
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Well, the great mountains of snow melted away and I have been trying to do everything I can while the weather remains wet and snowy to ready the project for full steam ahead when it finally gets nice. Been finalizing drawings, clearing out junk, and doing more site prep. The excavator told me to locate the far ends of the existing water and sewer lines before we did the back half of the property. I finally got into the ground looking for the sewer that the city maps say is 2.8 feet down and 4 feet off the back corner of the house. A patio slab sits over that particular spot now, so I burrowed along the edge and hit a rock .... a BIG rock! Digging perpendicular to the direction of the sewer, I thought I'd encounter either the pipe or the edge of the rock. I found neither ! This rock is no less than eight feet across and appears to go on and on. This was a little disheartening.

I called my brother, who is a witcher and asked him to come work some hocus-pocus and find the lines. It snowed again last night, but by afternoon the 3 inches or so had melted off and his little copper rods dialed us right in. Don't ask me how that works, but I am happy to not need to dig another 8 foot trench that I don't have to !

The sheds and garage are almost empty and once the precip stops, both will be moved to teh front of the property to complete the groundwork and the foundation work can begin ! Last week the news officially declared this the snowiest winter since records began being kept in 1887. I am SO ready for summer !
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-06-20 1:27 AM (#178649 - in reply to #169167)
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On June 16, the old garage was jacked up, loaded on a trailer, and sent away.

Next comes sewer and water lines. Once these are in, I cut the trenches for foundation footings and the building begins.



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-06-30 11:53 AM (#179953 - in reply to #178649)
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29 June 09 - Got about 100 feet of sewer in. Those 10' trenches are a b*tch !



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61plymy
Posted 2009-07-01 12:05 AM (#180053 - in reply to #149629)
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That 09.jpg pic looks like a redneck camper going down the road. LMAO (or LAMO as Larry puts it).

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-08-24 1:31 AM (#186090 - in reply to #180053)
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It took half the summer to get the water and sewer in. Every complication from boring through 40 feet of solid basalt to running that same trench between two buildings only 30 inches apart. Pretty tough to fit a trackhoe through a mail slot. All hand cut and removed with wheelbarrows. It was ugly. Mr. Obvious refilled the trenches with sand to avoid this problem should the need arise in my lifetime.

This weekend my hired pit man and I cut 260 feet of trench for the foundation footings. Been about 15 years since I operated a trackhoe and getting the coordination back took some doing.

Photo 1 shows the sweet and easy back wall. Straight shot, all one level, no obstructions. The rest was not so easy. Even a smaller machine like this requires room to move. Not a lot of that on this "shoehorn" job.

Photo 2 shows the trick of bridging the trench to cut the last bit from both directions when you cannot simply run your end out.

I'll set batter boards next to locate the exact footprint of the building. Some fine tuning and hand cutting to make any last minute adjustments to the trenches and I'll start forming and setting steel for the footings.

Finally, we're BUILDING something !!!!



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-08-29 2:35 PM (#186771 - in reply to #186090)
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Falling back a month or so, ... the back part of the property sits on a shelf of solid rock. A major bummer of a discovery. The last 40 feet of digging for both the sewer and water involved cutting a trench through the rock. What should have taken a day took a month. Naturally, you don't want your water line in the same trench as your sewer, so TWO trenches had to be dug no less than ten feet apart ! $#@! Two trenches, 40 feet long, 24" wide, ... five feet deep. Rock from about two feet down. You can feel the pain.

To make matters even more fun, the water line went between the two buildings, so it could not be reached with a backhoe, etc. and had to be hand cut. All material had to then be hand carried out from between said buildings and wheeled away.

I filled all these trenches with clean sand. We won't be playing this game again.

If there is a bright side to any of this, I truly ache for the poor buggers that had to do this without jackhammers and power equipment in 1930. From here on out, the house should be debris free .... no rust, chunks, nasties in the water. Get a look at the condition of the pipe I removed from under the house. The big scale broke away with a little poke and created fountains wherever I crossed paths with it. For a week I had to backfeed the house with a garden hose from a yard hydrant !



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B/G 61
Posted 2009-08-29 5:54 PM (#186799 - in reply to #149629)
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I gotta say, I'm a little glad your runnin into problems - It's nice to see someone else suffer for a change (I thought I was the only one with bad luck!) It will all be worth it in the end - from my couch things seem to be goin fine And I recognize the sunflowers growin, but whats that big blue thing growin out of the ground !?!?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-08-29 11:36 PM (#186836 - in reply to #186799)
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B/G 61 - 2009-08-30 2:54 PM

I gotta say, I'm a little glad your runnin into problems - It's nice to see someone else suffer for a change (I thought I was the only one with bad luck!) It will all be worth it in the end - from my couch things seem to be goin fine And I recognize the sunflowers growin, but whats that big blue thing growin out of the ground !?!? :laugh:


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Say, you got any room on that couch .. slide over !

.... I thought I was the only one with "The King of Pain" playing in my head.

Those blue things seem to pop up wherever I go. Different colors too ! My neighbors are THRILLED I am building this shop so all my "treasures" can go inside !
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big m
Posted 2009-09-01 2:54 PM (#187189 - in reply to #149629)
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Slow, but steady.

At least you are making forward progress, Brent. Hopefully things will go more smoothly from here on out.

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-09-02 12:35 AM (#187288 - in reply to #187189)
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Minor setback this week. Started dropping footing forms in the hole and discovered my east trench was too tight against the property setback, so I had my hired guy cut it back 6" or so. Looked good when I got home. Spent the evening resetting grade with the laser and should be back setting forms tomorrow. I pick up all the pre-bent rebar tomorrow and will have the straight stock delivered as the forms take shape - no sense in tripping over more stuff under foot.
I'm really feeling the pinch. Snow is coming. Gotta get out of the dirt !
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Posted 2009-09-02 1:10 AM (#187291 - in reply to #187288)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-09-06 3:31 PM (#187858 - in reply to #187291)
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Gary,

I am building this place with extra space for you to park YOUR car here !
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-09-15 1:20 AM (#188906 - in reply to #187858)
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All forms in place. Pulled steel over the weekend and got it all tied off. Called for an inspection this AM and got signed off. Now to align the concrete, pumper truck, and hired help to get this poured. Met with a couple wall setters today. After looking around, my rental cost for wall forms was about $1500 for a week (I set and tear down). I could build my own cheaper, but the time factor with winter coming is weighing on me. I suspect I can get it hired done, using their forms for close to that. Should know this week. Should have the footers poured by Friday.

After putting out fires with the City parking folks (called in by nosey neighbor) a few weeks ago, I got all my rigs tagged again today, This, after being told I had until snow removal was necessary.

So far, nosey neighbor has called City Engineering, Electrical, Parking, The Power Co., AND the air pollution control authority (in case I might make some dust !) for a total of at least 10 visits so far. Upon my attorney's advice, I am keeping a detailed log of the calls and complaints. It will make for an interesting side issue as things move along.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-09-16 7:57 PM (#189174 - in reply to #188906)
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Steel pulled and tied.

Mud tomorrow at 1300 hrs.



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-10-19 2:02 AM (#193074 - in reply to #189174)
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Looking over this thread, it is hard to believe how much work has gone into this project over the last year. In the time since my last post so much has changed. I formed and poured the front 2/3's of the foundation walls and today, after stripping them, began backfilling and grading for interior slab work. I still hope to have walls and a roof over at least the back half by the time the snows come. Finally starting to show some results. That dirt work will kill you.



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Posted 2009-10-19 6:58 PM (#193136 - in reply to #149629)
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Thanks for the Update PIC,s Doc... Finally i can see where this Project is Going.. Sure hope everything speeds along for you now, So you can get the Cars Housed before Winter..

You going to build a Couch out of that Rear End you Dug up... LOL
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-10-20 2:34 AM (#193215 - in reply to #193136)
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No couch. That hulk represents all the little compound curves I need to cut-n-paste together to finish my DeSoto. I had nowhere to put it with all those dirt piles, so what better way to advertise myself as white trailer trash stock that setting that POS way up there on top of one of the dirt piles for all the world to see and enjoy ?

By next summer it will enjoy a spot indoors next to the DeSoto, up on stands where I can extract the pieces to fabricate the DeSoto back to rock solid status.
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Posted 2009-10-20 12:43 PM (#193256 - in reply to #193215)
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Wouldn't it have been easier to move to a house that already had a shop built next to it? I would show off the rear end by putting it where the neighbor could clearly see it every time they looked out their window!
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-10-20 11:03 PM (#193349 - in reply to #193256)
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I really like the neighborhood, and the wife and I DID do some shopping around with a realtor friend for about two years before deciding just to build where we are.

Nosey neighbor will drown in her own feces. Trust me.

Just a matter of time .....
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Posted 2009-10-27 3:21 PM (#194092 - in reply to #193349)
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Hey Doc you should consider building your shop out of Structual Insulated Panels (SIPS) I have used them on lots of projects and the insulating factor is beyond any standard fiberglass. I have a 40'x40' x13' and I heated it for $300.00 last winter. I leave the thermostate set at 55 and turn it up a little when I am working . Just a thought. Propane was $1.95 a gallon then

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-10-28 2:21 AM (#194209 - in reply to #194092)
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Tell more about these SIPS.

The design I have in mind is to reproduce a very authentic 1880's railroad depot look, as I also have a thing for Victorian architecture. This will incorporate a lot of finely detailed woodwork and vintage hardware I have been saving for years. I suspect your product will not lend itself well to an old look (?).
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Posted 2009-10-28 12:03 PM (#194242 - in reply to #194209)
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The SIPS are used for the walls you can apply whatever siding treatment inside and out. I use the brand R-Control I believe the web site is www.rcontrol.com

You can use them for the roof as well depending on your design,
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Posted 2009-10-28 12:50 PM (#194252 - in reply to #149629)
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aahhhhhhhhhhhhh, i see you used one of them yankee twisters to tie the steel . back in the mid 50's my dad brought home one of the wire twisters and pre looped wire . he said it was for people that couldn't tie the regular way , with a set of kleins . if you were super good , one could tie with a set of dikes(the tool kind) . poured foundations are a great way to go--------------------------------------------------later
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-10-28 10:19 PM (#194313 - in reply to #194252)
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Your Dad had a Yankee twister in the 50's ??? !

Wow ! I never even heard of one until about 15 years ago, .... even after working in the concrete/steel (carpenter's union) for a number of years. I used an off-set spinner, and a lot of old dogs ribbed me for it. They could do it off a reel with pliers as fast as I could do it with my spinner ! I bet it took years of doing it to get that good. I still have my spinner, but decided to buy one of these Yankee jobs for this project.

Concrete has gotten stupid expensive. When I did my first job it came in at $45 a yard. I am paying $112 for the same mix today !

Still, a well done pour is really nice.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-10-29 1:23 AM (#194334 - in reply to #194313)
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Poured the final 8.25 yds. of mud tonight to finish the foundation walls. With the job market being somewhat in the tank for construction work, I have rifled through a few guys over the course of this project to land on a couple good hands that get with the program and are pretty fun to work with. We made short work of this pour, getting all the mud in the forms in 50 minutes and spending about an hour before and after getting ready and cleaning up. Tomorrow afternoon we'll begin stripping the forms and backfilling. It sure will be nice to have a flat area again after so long with nothing but deep trenches and mountains of dirt.
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Posted 2009-10-29 10:21 AM (#194374 - in reply to #149629)
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Doc, is that a '59 Seville rear clip sitting there? If you're going to use it as fill or something, I could really use the lower quarters for patch panels... Plz let me know if you want to get rid of it. =)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-10-29 10:34 AM (#194376 - in reply to #194374)
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Hahahaha !

My neighbors probably think I'm gonna use it as a flower pot. One even came by just to see all the goings-on and upon getting close to it, asked quite innocently "Why do you keep this *thing* around?" I showed him photographs of my car. All was understood.

Honestly, that Fireflite clip is the squashed one that Big M got in Fresno a few years back. I went down to California last September and hauled it back to use for just what you are looking to do .... fab those little compound curves into repair panels for my own DeSoto.

I will not use it all, and will contact you when done. Maybe there will be bits still useful to you ?

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-11-02 12:17 AM (#194857 - in reply to #194376)
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Getting caught up on my photo editing.

Following are a few pix of the final pour. I called for the last truck of the day and got a 1600 hr. delivery. We worked until after dark (which is pretty early this time of year). That was Wednesday. The next few days we stripped and stacked forms and I rounded up lumber, etc. for the walls. Today we stood the first walls. Did it in sections .... those 16 foot tall 2x6 walls are a bear to lift even in 16 foot long sections ! By the time the sun was getting low, the entire east wall was up and about 2/3's of the north wall too.

At this rate, dare I say I might be sticking rafters in a week ???

Very happy to finally be getting out of the dirt.



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2009-11-03 11:57 AM (#195027 - in reply to #194857)
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Whoa! She be big! All that without a building permit? Doc, you are the MAN! Go get em!
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Posted 2009-11-03 11:10 PM (#195137 - in reply to #149629)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-11-04 1:23 AM (#195148 - in reply to #195027)
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"Whoa! She be big! All that without a building permit? Doc, you are the MAN! Go get em!"

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No building permit ? What gave you that idea ? No such luck. I have pulled several permits, from electrical to framing to gas, not to mention the simple building permit (to the tune of some $1200!) Building dimensions are 75x30, with a second story over 40x30. You are looking at the "shop" part. This will have 16' walls with stick framed roof, making for open space for hanging all my sheetmetal from the rafters and still be able to operate the lift without obstruction. The front area will be more of a garage, with 9' ceilings on both floors. Makes for a very tall building.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2009-11-12 12:05 AM (#196369 - in reply to #195148)
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Don't tell 'em anything they don't need to know Doc. There was actually a guy in our neighborhood that tried to gut his whole house and remodel the interior with no permits. He was digging a ditch around the foundation of the house to cure a water problem and he bumped into the house with the ditch digger and the front of the house nearly fell off! The place is now covered with stop work orders and has been sitting like that for a couple of years. He chained the front of the house on so it wouldn't fall off.

He is now teaching a class on how to devalue your property in any type of market.
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61plymy
Posted 2009-11-12 4:36 PM (#196458 - in reply to #149629)
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Hell, he could have devalued it without doing all that work himself. The US gov't is doing a fine job of it and you don't have to lift a finger!! And now the world is out of gold, so staunching the flow is gonna be that much tougher.

Doc, I sympathize on lifting those walls. A guy could use a crane sometimes. I have toyed with the idea of using a light duty tower section for making a lifting crane for that job.

Looks like yer moving along well though.

Mike
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