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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | Now i'm working on convertible folding , is completly destroyed ... i dont know .. is very difficult rebuild this, also wood insert on the top of frame for install the top .. i'm very undecide for the color ....Black and gold .....Gold and white ....or White and gold ??? | ||
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Expert ,, George Passed away July 28th 2021, He will be Missed Posts: 1295 Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Yes, I know him. Email me privately at: george@mckovich.com and I will provide contact info. George | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | raffaplymouth - 2011-11-11 12:03 PM Now i'm working on convertible folding , is completly destroyed ... i dont know .. is very difficult rebuild this, also wood insert on the top of frame for install the top .. i'm very undecide for the color ....Black and gold .....Gold and white ....or White and gold ??? ************************************************** When you figure out a good way to restore rust-destroyed top bows, you will have an attentive audience with me and many others ! Black with gold is the only way to go, in my opinion, .... especially with your car's history. But that said, how about gold with black ? I know of at least ONE surviving 56 in this color combo. | ||
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Expert Posts: 1527 Location: ZH, Switzerland | Hello Raffa It depends on what color you plan to color your Adventure Convertible. I would prefer black - gold like Doctor DeSoto wrote. Good luck with your wonderful project car. I'm a follower and like the progress and the state of the Adventure you achieved actually. Happy Motoring! Dieter | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | Guys , original color is not Black-Gold !! from factory is white and gold , before one or two year this car was repainted black and gold ... but original is white and gold ...., i like black and gold , and gold and white , i dont like my original white and gold ..... | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | 95% or more of the 56-58 Adventurers were white with gold. At the time, the white paint stuck out dramatically on the street and denoted high performance. By the 60's, it meant nothing more than any other color. But your car has a great story about how it came to be black and gold. If the car were mine, I'd need no more excuse to paint it black and gold. But that is just me. | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | <p> </p><p>some photos of convertible folding </p><p> </p><p>http://img444.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=1957desotoadventurercon.jpg</p> Edited by raffaplymouth 2011-11-14 3:02 PM | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | Hi! I see at your pics the broken bow. A guy in sweden make new bows only the two in middle. (not the front top header and the rear) Edited by Windsor59 2011-11-14 4:27 PM | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7805 Location: Williams California | Windsor59 - 2011-11-14 1:25 PM Hi! I see at your pics the broken bow. A guy in sweden make new bows only the two in middle. (not the front top header and the rear) Yes! Very good quality, I might add! ---John | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Raffa, you have to ask yourself: Self, am I restoring this car, or am I glamming it up (Black/Gold) to maximize its re-sale WOW-factor? | ||
b5rt |
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Expert Posts: 2519 Location: central Illinois | Amazing work going on there! The last 57 Adventurer I saw in person was my father-in laws coupe. It was white with gold sweep. Not sure exactly where it ended up going when sold but could be local. I'll start asking around. Wayne's known as "stilloutthere" if you want to contact him Raffy. Good luck and great work!!! | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | d500neil - 2011-11-15 4:43 PM Raffa, you have to ask yourself: Self, am I restoring this car, or am I glamming it up (Black/Gold) to maximize its re-sale WOW-factor? %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% or a third option .... the car was painted this color very early on by a significant owner or a fourth option .... you are doing the car the way YOU like it. | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | You right Guys , i don't think of resale this car .... i think paint in Black and Gold , i like | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Black and Gold (57desotoadvent-1.jpg) (57desotoadvent-2.jpg) (57desotoadvent-3.jpg) (57desotoadvent-4.jpg) (57desotoadvent-5.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 57desotoadvent-1.jpg (126KB - 378 downloads) 57desotoadvent-2.jpg (108KB - 385 downloads) 57desotoadvent-3.jpg (118KB - 390 downloads) 57desotoadvent-4.jpg (106KB - 389 downloads) 57desotoadvent-5.jpg (138KB - 375 downloads) | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Just remember, no matter how you paint it, you're still stuck with a yucky old DeSoto ! | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | Wow , Black and gold is incredible !! very impact !! , im decide for black and gold ! where you find this photos ?? is sweden car ?? | ||
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Expert Posts: 2631 Location: Minor Hill, TN | Good luck with the restoration please keep us posted | ||
ThomasD500 |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 508 Location: Orlando | Doctor DeSoto - 2011-11-18 8:28 AM Just remember, no matter how you paint it, you're still stuck with a yucky old DeSoto !
Yeah, that's a yucky old Desoto. That is if 'yucky' is the new slang for 'totally awesome'!!! | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | some photos of front floor ...front floor buy on ebay ...seats support is realized with handle ..
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raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | Convertible folding frame before Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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rebuilding of the front frame , was very bad, thanks for your photos , was very important for this ...need only wood lock on the front .. ,the side parts are aluminium , i welded ..someone told me that a guy for reproduce center folding ?? you have contact ? i dont know if fix my or change ... how much ?? wich folding ?? center ? rear ?? | ||
old mopar guy |
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Expert Posts: 1508 Location: new york | This is a Amazing restoration ! Keep up the great work it looks like it will be a FIN TASTIC ride when done! HAPPY MOTORING! Victor. | ||
old mopar guy |
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Expert Posts: 1508 Location: new york | This is a Amazing restoration ! Keep up the great work it looks like it will be a FIN TASTIC ride when done! HAPPY MOTORING! Victor. | ||
chrysler300c |
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Expert ,, George Passed away July 28th 2021, He will be Missed Posts: 1295 Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Raffaele Contact me directly at: george@mckovich.com I can provide the source of the TWO center bows. I have purchased a set and they work perfectly... Just like originals. George | ||
mogge65 |
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Expert Posts: 1295 Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Gold/black is also nice Raffaele! it would be a nice contrast to your black 1959 E coupe! (desoto-adventurer-1319138883-7240.jpg) Attachments ---------------- desoto-adventurer-1319138883-7240.jpg (246KB - 350 downloads) | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy |
Hello Guys !! 1 month for rebuild the convertible folding ... very difficult ... and we have install front parts ..inner and outer fender for check allignement ...very difficult ...now look like a car ??
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raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | Mogge65 .. Gold is very nice ,i see this car in a auction ... if i remember .. that car is incredible ...my preferred color is Gold ...but im very undecided ..The fateful moment approaches , now the car is at my Body paint man for make the preparation before paint ...im not able to paint a car .. everything ..but no paint ... | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | wow , but i look now that car is Gold and Black !!! not Gold and white ... this is the first time that i see this color combo .. was available ?? | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | guys , if you look im the last photos attacched of my ADV ...from front right fender and right door .. allignement is not good ,also from door to rear quarter .. i think depend from center body mount from body to frame will need shims ...now allignement is very important before paint preparation ...this need more time of job | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | The inner fenders are painted in dark gray, right? Raffa, have you confirmed with one of the 57 DeSoto guys how your car was OEM painted? | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | Sorry , i dont confirmed ...I was talking about the pictures published by Mogge of Gold and Black ... my Desoto OEM color is White and gold , sorry for my english | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | i dont know if inner fender is painted gray ... i dont think ,,, i think black like my 300E ... all under the hood is like exterior paint , inner fender wheel side is like floor undercoating ....Black Edited by raffaplymouth 2012-02-03 5:25 PM | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | I'll see what I can do, for you, on the painting of your car. | ||
57desoto |
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Expert Posts: 1488 Location: New Castle PA | Inner fenders should be a medium-to-dark gray, both on the engine side AND on the wheel side, NOT black!!! Raffaele, have you checked the link I sent you yet for the pictures I started to post of your car, to eventually hook up onto my 1957 DeSoto website? I was waiting for some feedback from you before going further... | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1120 Location: Brisbane, Australia | Boungirno, Great work Raffaele, you are an inspiration to us all. I'm sure we are all waiting to see which colour scheme you finalize on. saluti Roberto Edited by earleebob1 2012-02-03 8:23 PM | ||
ronbo97 |
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Expert Posts: 4034 Location: Connecticut | Raffaele - When aligning the doors to the quarter, it's a good idea to have power window assemblies already installed in doors, since they weigh the door down a bit. Also, if you are using the Gary Goers door rubber, it is too dense and will cause your doors to stick out. We had a lot of trouble with it after my body shop had aligned the doors perfectly without the rubber. I would like to find an alternative to the GG door rubber that has the same profile, but is softer. Ron | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | 57desoto - 2012-02-04 12:03 AM Inner fenders should be a medium-to-dark gray, both on the engine side AND on the wheel side, NOT black!!! Raffaele, have you checked the link I sent you yet for the pictures I started to post of your car, to eventually hook up onto my 1957 DeSoto website? I was waiting for some feedback from you before going further... WOW , FENDER COLOR PAINT IS DIFFERENT FROM CHRYSLER ?? THEREFORE INNER AND OUTSIDE OF FENDER IS DARK GREY ?? BUT UNDERCOATING OR ONLY PAINT ?? EDWARD , YOU ADD MY PHOTOS ?? THANKS !! BUT I DONT FIND IN YOUR WEBSITE .... LET ME KNOW | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | ronbo97 - 2012-02-04 7:29 AM Raffaele - When aligning the doors to the quarter, it's a good idea to have power window assemblies already installed in doors, since they weigh the door down a bit. Also, if you are using the Gary Goers door rubber, it is too dense and will cause your doors to stick out. We had a lot of trouble with it after my body shop had aligned the doors perfectly without the rubber. I would like to find an alternative to the GG door rubber that has the same profile, but is softer. Ron
OK RON THANK FOR YOUR ADVICE , I WOULD HAVE TAKING .150" HIGHER FOR ALL WEIGHT OF DOOR MECHANISM , GLASS AND PANEL | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy |
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raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | Guys let me know if these color is ok Chassis frame black semigloss sunspension black semigloss firewall body exterior paint hood on the back body exterior paint trunk lid on the back body exterior paint inner fender engine side grey dark semigloss inner fender wheel side grey dark undercoating ??? hood crossbar ( latch and radiator support ) black undercoating of the floor ( BACK ) ????????grey dark or black ?? undercoating of the floor INTERIOR SIDE ( UPPER) ?????????? | ||
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Expert Posts: 1488 Location: New Castle PA | If you REALLY want to be absolutely correct, (and NOBODY really does this), the underside (engine side) of the hood should stay in primer. For 1957 DeSotos, it was NOT painted body color, although everyone does it, including me. Some cars had an underhood mat glued to the underside BUT NOT fiberglas like is available from several places. The inner fender wheel side should be the dark gray UNLESS your body tag code says your car was undercoated, in which car it still is that gray, but covered over with an undercoating spray. I'll re-send you the email about your car pictures. I didn't post them directly onto my "regular" sites, as I told you, because I've used up most of the available space there. However, I started ANOTHER site, which I'll link from the original, to your restoration pictures, once I get feedback from you that it's OK. | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | thenk you very much Edward !! ....yes you can link from your website ... Edited by raffaplymouth 2012-02-09 4:22 PM | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | guys , if is possible i need a mesure ... if someone have ..... from left seat hole on the floor .. to right holes on the floor ... need for rebuild front seats support .... | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | And, when Ed says "primer", all that anyone needs to do is have some finish enamel be formulated, that LOOKS like "primer". There can be any sort of actual primer/sealer applied underneath that 'finish' coat (which merely happens to look like it is OEM primer). | ||
Finsinthemirror |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1115 Location: CA | What color was the primer that the factory used? | ||
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Finsinthemirror - 2012-02-09 5:57 PM What color was the primer that the factory used? It varied. The factories often mixed left over paint into the primer. Should be a greyish color. | ||
1958 Hepcat |
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Member Posts: 5 | Just instaled the 2 center bows on my 59 Dodge fitts perfect.The guy how makes them is Mikael Isacsson ph nr 46-70-6537506 great guy he also makes trunkpanels for Mopar 57-59 also the panel that goes around steering and brake padel. Lars Strandheim Sweden | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | Guys ... Need a help !! if someone have mesure from left to right seat hole bolt on the floor And if someone have a photo of front crossmember under the hood with latch and vertical bar to frame ...i don't have this ... | ||
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | raffaplymouth - 2012-02-11 2:33 PM Guys ... Need a help !! if someone have mesure from left to right seat hole bolt on the floor And if someone have a photo of front crossmember under the hood with latch and vertical bar to frame ...i don't have this ... Hi I have this from a NY 57--59 If you need it you only pay me the shipping price. (DSC_2366.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DSC_2366.jpg (30KB - 355 downloads) | ||
raffaplymouth |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | Thank you Joakim !! but i have your part ( my is little damaged ) ..... i need this i have attacched in this photo , is vertical bar from upper to middle and from middle to lower , is someone have photos !!! thanks
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Elite Veteran Posts: 734 Location: Torino - Italy | if someone have i buy !! if someone have photo i build !! | ||
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