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raffaplymouth
Posted 2011-11-10 3:03 PM (#295641 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: RE: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible


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Now i'm working on convertible folding , is completly destroyed ... i dont know .. is very difficult rebuild this, also wood insert on the top of frame for install the top ..

i'm very undecide for the color ....Black and gold .....Gold and white ....or White and gold ???

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chrysler300c
Posted 2011-11-12 11:11 PM (#295945 - in reply to #295172)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-11-13 3:23 AM (#295965 - in reply to #295641)
Subject: RE: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible



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raffaplymouth - 2011-11-11 12:03 PM

Now i'm working on convertible folding , is completly destroyed ... i dont know .. is very difficult rebuild this, also wood insert on the top of frame for install the top ..

i'm very undecide for the color ....Black and gold .....Gold and white ....or White and gold ???



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When you figure out a good way to restore rust-destroyed top bows, you will have an attentive
audience with me and many others !

Black with gold is the only way to go, in my opinion, .... especially with your car's history. But
that said, how about gold with black ? I know of at least ONE surviving 56 in this color combo.
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2011-11-13 5:47 AM (#295969 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: RE: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible



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Hello Raffa

It depends on what color you plan to color your Adventure Convertible. I would prefer black - gold like Doctor DeSoto wrote.

Good luck with your wonderful project car. I'm a follower and like the progress and the state of the Adventure you achieved actually.

Happy Motoring!

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2011-11-13 7:56 AM (#295973 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible


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Guys , original color is not Black-Gold !! from factory is white and gold , before one or two year this car was repainted black and gold ... but original is white and gold ...., i like black and gold , and gold and white , i dont like my original white and gold .....
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-11-13 10:39 AM (#295983 - in reply to #295973)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible



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95% or more of the 56-58 Adventurers were white with gold. At the time, the white paint
stuck out dramatically on the street and denoted high performance. By the 60's, it meant
nothing more than any other color.
But your car has a great story about how it came to be black and gold. If the car were mine,
I'd need no more excuse to paint it black and gold. But that is just me.
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2011-11-14 2:56 PM (#296115 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible


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<p> </p><p>some photos of convertible folding </p><p> </p><p>http://img444.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=1957desotoadventurercon.jpg</p>

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Windsor59
Posted 2011-11-14 4:25 PM (#296124 - in reply to #296115)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible



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Hi!
I see at your pics the broken bow. A guy in sweden make new bows only the two in middle. (not the front top header and the rear)

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big m
Posted 2011-11-14 4:38 PM (#296126 - in reply to #296124)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible



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Windsor59 - 2011-11-14 1:25 PM

Hi!
I see at your pics the broken bow. A guy in sweden make new bows only the two in middle. (not the front top header and the rear)


Yes! Very good quality, I might add!

---John
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d500neil
Posted 2011-11-14 7:43 PM (#296165 - in reply to #296126)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible



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Raffa, you have to ask yourself: Self, am I restoring this car, or am I glamming it up (Black/Gold) to maximize
its re-sale WOW-factor?




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b5rt
Posted 2011-11-17 7:49 PM (#296478 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible



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Amazing work going on there! The last 57 Adventurer I saw in person was my father-in laws coupe. It was white with gold sweep. Not sure exactly where it ended up going when sold but could be local. I'll start asking around.

Wayne's known as "stilloutthere" if you want to contact him Raffy.

Good luck and great work!!!
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-11-18 1:48 AM (#296501 - in reply to #296165)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible



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d500neil - 2011-11-15 4:43 PM

Raffa, you have to ask yourself: Self, am I restoring this car, or am I glamming it up (Black/Gold) to maximize
its re-sale WOW-factor?


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or a third option .... the car was painted this color very early on by a significant owner

or a fourth option .... you are doing the car the way YOU like it.


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raffaplymouth
Posted 2011-11-18 3:31 AM (#296510 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible


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You right Guys , i don't think of resale this car .... i think paint in Black and Gold , i like
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mogge65
Posted 2011-11-18 7:14 AM (#296516 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible



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Black and Gold



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-11-18 8:28 AM (#296521 - in reply to #296516)
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Just remember, no matter how you paint it, you're still stuck with a yucky
old DeSoto !
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2011-11-18 9:13 AM (#296524 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible


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Wow , Black and gold is incredible !! very impact !! , im decide for black and gold ! where you find this photos ?? is sweden car ??
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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2011-11-18 3:10 PM (#296556 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible


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Good luck with the restoration please keep us posted
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ThomasD500
Posted 2011-11-18 7:37 PM (#296583 - in reply to #296521)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2011-11-18 8:28 AM Just remember, no matter how you paint it, you're still stuck with a yucky old DeSoto !

 

Yeah, that's a yucky old Desoto.  That is if 'yucky' is the new slang for 'totally awesome'!!!

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2011-11-19 1:39 PM (#296651 - in reply to #296583)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible


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some photos of front floor ...front floor buy on ebay ...seats support is realized with handle ..

 

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2011-12-11 6:22 AM (#299348 - in reply to #201733)
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Convertible folding frame before

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rebuilding of  the front frame , was very bad, thanks for your photos , was very important for this  ...need only wood lock on the front .. ,the side parts are aluminium , i welded ..someone told me that a guy for reproduce center folding ??  you have contact ? i dont know if fix my or change ... how much ?? wich folding ??  center ? rear ??

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old mopar guy
Posted 2011-12-11 9:22 AM (#299358 - in reply to #201733)
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This is a Amazing restoration ! Keep up the great work it looks like it will be a FIN TASTIC ride when done! HAPPY MOTORING! Victor.
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old mopar guy
Posted 2011-12-11 9:22 AM (#299359 - in reply to #201733)
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This is a Amazing restoration ! Keep up the great work it looks like it will be a FIN TASTIC ride when done! HAPPY MOTORING! Victor.
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chrysler300c
Posted 2011-12-12 10:41 PM (#299515 - in reply to #299348)
Subject: RE: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible



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Raffaele
Contact me directly at: george@mckovich.com

I can provide the source of the TWO center bows. I have purchased a set and they work perfectly... Just like originals.

George
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mogge65
Posted 2011-12-14 1:02 PM (#299672 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible



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Gold/black is also nice Raffaele! it would be a nice contrast to your black 1959 E coupe!



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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-02-03 4:55 PM (#306283 - in reply to #201733)
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 Hello Guys !! 1 month for rebuild the convertible folding ... very difficult ... and we have install front parts ..inner and outer fender for check allignement ...very difficult ...now look like a car ??

 

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-02-03 5:06 PM (#306286 - in reply to #299672)
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Mogge65 ..  Gold is very nice ,i see this car in a auction ... if i remember .. that car is incredible ...my preferred color is Gold ...but im very undecided ..The fateful moment approaches , now the car is at my Body paint man for make the preparation before paint  ...im not able to paint a car .. everything ..but no paint ...

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-02-03 5:12 PM (#306288 - in reply to #201733)
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wow , but i look now that car is Gold and Black !!! not Gold and white ... this is the first time that i see this color combo .. was available ??
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-02-03 5:17 PM (#306289 - in reply to #201733)
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guys , if you look im the last photos attacched of my ADV ...from front right fender and right door .. allignement is not good ,also from door to rear quarter .. i think depend from center body mount from body to frame will need shims ...now allignement is very important before paint preparation ...this need more time of job
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d500neil
Posted 2012-02-03 5:17 PM (#306290 - in reply to #306286)
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The inner fenders are painted in dark gray, right?

Raffa, have you confirmed with one of the 57 DeSoto guys how your car was OEM painted?




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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-02-03 5:21 PM (#306291 - in reply to #201733)
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Sorry , i dont confirmed ...I was talking about the pictures published by Mogge of Gold and Black ... my Desoto OEM color is White and gold , sorry for my english
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-02-03 5:24 PM (#306292 - in reply to #306290)
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i dont know if inner  fender is painted gray ... i dont think ,,,  i think black like my 300E ... all under the hood is like exterior paint , inner fender wheel side is like floor undercoating ....Black

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d500neil
Posted 2012-02-03 5:57 PM (#306295 - in reply to #306292)
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I'll see what I can do, for you, on the painting of your car.



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57desoto
Posted 2012-02-03 6:03 PM (#306296 - in reply to #201733)
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Inner fenders should be a medium-to-dark gray, both on the engine side AND on the wheel side, NOT black!!!

Raffaele, have you checked the link I sent you yet for the pictures I started to post of your car, to eventually hook up onto my 1957 DeSoto website? I was waiting for some feedback from you before going further...

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earleebob
Posted 2012-02-03 8:20 PM (#306316 - in reply to #201733)
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Boungirno, Great work Raffaele, you are an inspiration to us all. I'm sure we are all waiting to see which colour scheme you finalize on.
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ronbo97
Posted 2012-02-04 1:29 AM (#306363 - in reply to #306316)
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Raffaele -

When aligning the doors to the quarter, it's a good idea to have power window assemblies already installed in doors, since they weigh the door down a bit. Also, if you are using the Gary Goers door rubber, it is too dense and will cause your doors to stick out. We had a lot of trouble with it after my body shop had aligned the doors perfectly without the rubber. I would like to find an alternative to the GG door rubber that has the same profile, but is softer.

Ron

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-02-05 7:32 AM (#306473 - in reply to #306296)
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57desoto - 2012-02-04 12:03 AM Inner fenders should be a medium-to-dark gray, both on the engine side AND on the wheel side, NOT black!!! Raffaele, have you checked the link I sent you yet for the pictures I started to post of your car, to eventually hook up onto my 1957 DeSoto website? I was waiting for some feedback from you before going further...

 WOW , FENDER COLOR  PAINT IS DIFFERENT FROM CHRYSLER ?? THEREFORE INNER AND OUTSIDE OF FENDER IS DARK GREY ?? BUT UNDERCOATING  OR ONLY PAINT ?? EDWARD , YOU ADD MY PHOTOS ?? THANKS !! BUT I DONT FIND IN YOUR WEBSITE .... LET ME KNOW

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-02-05 7:35 AM (#306474 - in reply to #306363)
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ronbo97 - 2012-02-04 7:29 AM

Raffaele -

When aligning the doors to the quarter, it's a good idea to have power window assemblies already installed in doors, since they weigh the door down a bit. Also, if you are using the Gary Goers door rubber, it is too dense and will cause your doors to stick out. We had a lot of trouble with it after my body shop had aligned the doors perfectly without the rubber. I would like to find an alternative to the GG door rubber that has the same profile, but is softer.

Ron

 

OK RON THANK FOR YOUR ADVICE  , I WOULD HAVE TAKING .150" HIGHER FOR ALL WEIGHT OF DOOR MECHANISM , GLASS AND PANEL

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-02-05 9:35 AM (#306482 - in reply to #201733)
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-02-05 9:58 AM (#306484 - in reply to #201733)
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Guys let me know if these color is ok

 Chassis frame                       black semigloss

sunspension                           black semigloss

firewall                                    body exterior paint

hood on the back                    body exterior paint

trunk lid on the back              body exterior paint

inner fender engine side           grey dark semigloss

 inner fender wheel side           grey dark undercoating ???

 hood crossbar ( latch and radiator support )  black

undercoating of the floor ( BACK )         ????????grey dark or black ??

undercoating of the floor INTERIOR SIDE ( UPPER)   ??????????

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57desoto
Posted 2012-02-07 7:36 AM (#306729 - in reply to #201733)
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If you REALLY want to be absolutely correct, (and NOBODY really does this), the underside (engine side) of the hood should stay in primer. For 1957 DeSotos, it was NOT painted body color, although everyone does it, including me. Some cars had an underhood mat glued to the underside BUT NOT fiberglas like is available from several places. The inner fender wheel side should be the dark gray UNLESS your body tag code says your car was undercoated, in which car it still is that gray, but covered over with an undercoating spray.

I'll re-send you the email about your car pictures. I didn't post them directly onto my "regular" sites, as I told you, because I've used up most of the available space there. However, I started ANOTHER site, which I'll link from the original, to your restoration pictures, once I get feedback from you that it's OK.
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-02-09 4:12 PM (#307111 - in reply to #201733)
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thenk you very much Edward !! ....yes you can link from your  website ...

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-02-09 4:17 PM (#307114 - in reply to #201733)
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guys , if is possible i need a mesure ... if someone have ..... from left seat hole on the floor .. to right holes on the floor ... need for rebuild front seats support ....
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d500neil
Posted 2012-02-09 5:10 PM (#307123 - in reply to #307114)
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And, when Ed says "primer", all that anyone needs to do is have some finish enamel be formulated, that LOOKS like "primer".

There can be any sort of actual primer/sealer applied underneath that 'finish' coat (which merely happens to look like it is OEM
primer).




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Posted 2012-02-09 5:57 PM (#307129 - in reply to #307123)
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What color was the primer that the factory used?
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Posted 2012-02-09 6:38 PM (#307136 - in reply to #307129)
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Finsinthemirror - 2012-02-09 5:57 PM

What color was the primer that the factory used?


It varied. The factories often mixed left over paint into the primer. Should be a greyish color.
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Posted 2012-02-10 12:22 PM (#307234 - in reply to #201733)
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Just instaled the 2 center bows on my 59 Dodge fitts perfect.The guy how makes them is Mikael Isacsson ph nr 46-70-6537506 great guy he also makes trunkpanels for Mopar 57-59 also the panel that goes around steering and brake padel.
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-02-11 2:33 PM (#307426 - in reply to #201733)
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Guys ... Need a help !! if someone have mesure from left to right seat hole bolt on the floor
And if someone have a photo of front crossmember under the hood with latch and vertical bar to frame ...i don't have this ...
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Windsor59
Posted 2012-02-11 3:49 PM (#307431 - in reply to #307426)
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raffaplymouth - 2012-02-11 2:33 PM

Guys ... Need a help !! if someone have mesure from left to right seat hole bolt on the floor
And if someone have a photo of front crossmember under the hood with latch and vertical bar to frame ...i don't have this ...



Hi
I have this from a NY 57--59
If you need it you only pay me the shipping price.




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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-02-12 1:10 AM (#307489 - in reply to #201733)
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Thank you Joakim !!  but i have your part ( my is little damaged ) .....  i need this i have attacched in this photo , is vertical bar from upper to middle  and from middle  to lower , is someone have photos  !!!  thanks

 

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Posted 2012-02-12 1:15 AM (#307490 - in reply to #201733)
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if someone have i buy !!

if someone have photo i build !!
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