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wizard
Posted 2010-01-04 3:45 PM (#203758 - in reply to #203743)
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Raffaele, this is an impressive work - the concentration shows in your face (did you bite your tounge ) sei un cinghiale bianco - un lavoro di un artista!
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mogge65
Posted 2010-01-04 8:20 PM (#203803 - in reply to #201733)
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Very nice work! This kind of craftmanship is a must when tackling such a Big project, keep up the good work Ralf and Happy new year!

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Sartana
Posted 2010-01-04 11:07 PM (#203837 - in reply to #203803)
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Very interesting. Yes, please keep us posted...
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unclejesse
Posted 2010-01-09 5:12 AM (#204446 - in reply to #201733)
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Your a braver man than I Gunga Din. But what I can see your capable. A question about the quarters, are they
reasonably good and who sells them . thanx and good luck
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Posted 2010-01-10 12:50 PM (#204613 - in reply to #201733)
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It is the work of an artist indeed, as Sven said.
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2010-01-24 2:57 AM (#206481 - in reply to #201733)
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Rear quarter is for sale on ebay !! reproduced quite well, no big problems to mount
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Posted 2010-01-24 3:15 AM (#206482 - in reply to #201733)
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Hello ! other pics .. , hood was bent near the hinges, realigned and reinforced

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wizard
Posted 2010-01-24 6:50 AM (#206492 - in reply to #201733)
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As always, its very interesting to follow the work of a craftsman! I don't like the hood reinforcement thought ...

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2010-01-24 7:06 AM (#206495 - in reply to #201733)
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the 2 edges of the hood was very bent ... I could not do otherwise, the plate was unnerved
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Posted 2010-01-24 8:47 AM (#206503 - in reply to #201733)
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Just kidding man! I meant the piece of wood!
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Posted 2010-03-07 6:40 AM (#212822 - in reply to #201733)
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hello Guys !! , if anyone have photos of the convertible folding, I would need to rebuild my... thanks
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Posted 2010-03-07 10:15 AM (#212834 - in reply to #201733)
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Raffaele, I emailed the picture of a Folding top on a 59 Chrysler to you that I had on file. (to help me put mine back together...) I will post it here for all. I believe I have one more to find, but have not located it yet , but I should find it shortly.





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raffaplymouth
Posted 2010-03-07 10:54 AM (#212836 - in reply to #201733)
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thhhanks !! is very important for me !!! if you have more pics of detail ....
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Posted 2010-03-07 10:57 AM (#212837 - in reply to #201733)
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i need also all windshield molding , in my Desoto is missing , very hard to find
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Posted 2010-03-07 11:16 AM (#212838 - in reply to #201733)
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I can take a picture of my 59 Plymouth moulding it is off the vehicle, well mostly off and somewhat on...

I have some pictures of Tom Fox's gorgeous 59 Belvedere when he was in Denver on his way to Carlisle. It is a 98/99 points car. These pictures coming up are of Tom's car.

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Posted 2010-03-07 11:29 AM (#212839 - in reply to #201733)
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Tom Fox's 59 Belvedere:

Shoot the file is to big, I will email them to you now and try to reduce the size so all can see these. I will also go out the garage and take some pictures of my A pillar and Windshield inner and outer convertible pieces.

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Posted 2010-03-07 12:27 PM (#212843 - in reply to #201733)
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Raffaele, I just sent you some pictures via email of the A pillar trim and convertible header inside an outside pieces.
Again the size of the file is to big to post.

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Windsor59
Posted 2010-03-07 1:22 PM (#212845 - in reply to #212822)
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hello Guys !! , if anyone have photos of the convertible folding, I would need to rebuild my... thanks


I will look after pics frome my top frame renovaiting and I have some ather pics from athers top frames.

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1960ny
Posted 2010-03-12 2:24 AM (#213500 - in reply to #201733)
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Raffaele! Here is some pic,s on the header bow!



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Posted 2010-03-12 2:26 AM (#213501 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2010-03-13 1:46 PM (#213659 - in reply to #201733)
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this photos are the most interesting !!!I have to completely rebuild this part... my is very rust !! thank you very much
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Posted 2010-05-04 12:14 AM (#221582 - in reply to #201733)
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I can not believe I have just found this thread.
Yes this was my old ragtop, I found it just North of Batavia Iowa in a little farm junkyard way off the beaten path. here are pictures of it as I found it.

Yes it was rough but I could not believe my eyes when I saw it. I had been a 57 Desoto fan for years and had a 57 Adventurer hardtop in the garage at home when I found it so I had to have it. As you can see with the engine missing the tree was free to grow in it's place. The car left the factory as a white and gold car but the first owner wanted and black and gold car and could not find one so he had it repainted. Since it was his high school graduation present the parents wanted to make sure it was just right. The car was delivered to Hollywood Perkins Desoto Dealership in Wilmington CT but came to Iowa from Long Island NY in 1959. The title showed it as being black and gold when it came to Iowa.

Now for the story of why the car came to Iowa. In Fairfeild Iowa there used to be Parsons College (known to the locals as flunker heaven) where they believed in giving kids a second chace if they were booted out of some other college. And according to the brother of the original owner he got booted out of the LI school for using drugs in 1959. He was accepted for enrollment in Parsons and came to Iowa with his car to continue his education and evidently his party attitude because by late 1960 he was at the local Chrysler dealership trying to sell the car to the dealer after his dad cut him off after getting tired of him getting in trouble with the law and the school all the time. While he was at the dealership a couple from the neighboring town of Ottumwa was there to look at the new 61 Chryslers and ended up buying the car from the kid. He went on to complete his education and graduated then returned to New York where he designed race cars for a living. He raced at Oswego and is credited with making one of the first offset racing frames? His name was Howard Bishop Conkey

The second owners from Ottumwa is where I got a lot of information on the car (besides title searches) She ran the floral shop in town and he was the city streets super. She had a led foot and he would often hear about it til one day he got tired of it and had the local junk yard switch the dual quads to a single 4-barrel after a near accident by the John Deer plant that he heard about. She 30 years later called it a public castration to slow her down. Once while visiting her at the flower shop her daughter walked in and the mother started laughing. After she calmed down some and proceeded to tell us that she had been married for sometime and had not gotten pregnant but shortly after they purchased the car she was pregnant and she stated the daughter may have been concieved in the car. They sold it to another person a few years later and it was neglected until it ended up in the junkyard. The third owners thought they had the original hubcaps in the garage but they never found them. But they did apply for a duplicate title since it was still in thier name so I could get it transfered over to me.

About a year after I bought the car I was talking to a gearhead at the Cillicothe power plant North of Ottumwa and mentioned the car I had purchased and mentioned it was missing the motor. he told me about a guy in town that had a bunch of old Hemis so I waited till he got off work and met him at the garage. I told him where I got the car and he said yeah there it is. He said he got the motor ten years before from the Chrysler Adventurer convertible in that yard. I said you mean Desoto and he said no it was a Chrysler! I stopped right there it was not worth arguing him about it besides with the S26A stamped block I knew it almost had to be it. Then he said it was black and gold and I knew I had found the needle in the haystack. The motor was disassembled on the shelf since it was smoking bad he decided to do a rebuild and the parts would not fit so he put it on the shelf and forgot about it. He had been trying to use Chrysler hemi parts instead of Desoto so they did not fit! so he rebuilt another motor to use in hid rail at the at the Eddyville dragstrip instead of the smoking old Desoto motor. I tried to remain calm when I asked him "how much?" He told me he had paid $100 for it ten years before if he got his money back he would be happy. So I gladly paid the guy and used to adreniline high I was on to load the engine by myself in the back of my van in my three piece suit. And I did not give a darn as the grease smeared the front of it. I now had my factory #s matching motor back where it belonged.

Parts gathering. Over the years that I owned it I would go around Iowa buying out old parts inventories from Chrysler dealerships and body shops. The parts that fit my car would go on the shelf in the garage and the others would be sold to support my addiction. I had ammassed a heck of a lot of NOS parts including the door skin to replace the damaged orignal. All the lenses and most of the trim. All of the windshield trim was there when I sold it raffy? I even had a NOS piece for the lower corner driver side where the original was bent. NOS handles, Exhaust Venturis, steering wheel clock, record player and all. Heck I even had an Adventurer coupe for a parts car! The only major things I was missing was one air cleaner and some nice hubcaps. I had four that needed refinished. So basically I had the parts, I had the car but I did not have the money to do the job and a heck of a job it would be. I had an opportunity to buy a (one) NOS hubcap and when it sold for $600 I came to the realization that I was out of my league. I had one of the rarest most desirable forward look cars and one that I always dreamed of owning but what I did not have is the 6 figure salary to support the restoration costs so I made the decision to let it go. I made a very handsome profit over what I had in it so I paid a lot of bills and imported my UTEs from Australia. Sold the Plymouth UTE for what both cost me and have another rare Desoto that needs restored. At least this time it will be a simpler restoration since the UTE is based off the 54 Plymouth body parts are much cheaper and the car has no options othe than tinted glass I will be treating it to turn signals that it did not get from the factory since it is hard to take a corner, do hand signals with my right hand and shift with my left at the same time.

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2010-05-04 3:40 PM (#221678 - in reply to #201733)
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Thank you very much for these photo and information ...for me is very important ... i don't have the windshield moldings ... i think is missing ...i have a question... the tree that you speak is not seen in the photos .... has been cut?thank you very much for allRaffaele
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Posted 2010-05-04 6:22 PM (#221703 - in reply to #201733)
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It's a small tree. look by the windshield on the passenger side by the hood.
When I send you the original copies it will be easier to see.

The car had all of the windshiled moldings when I shipped it. It even had a NOS one to replace the bent one by the hood drivers side at the corner

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Posted 2010-05-04 6:26 PM (#221704 - in reply to #201733)
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Good luck on your project.
There is plenty of work, but for sure you will finish soon and with nice result!!!
Greetings from Spain.
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Posted 2010-05-09 7:49 AM (#222383 - in reply to #201733)
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Hello Guys , this body job is very difficult ... everything is rust ! , now the rear right fender is ok , trunk and gas tank mount is ok...There are many hours hours[/IMG][/IMG][/IMG]
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Posted 2010-05-09 8:04 AM (#222385 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2010-05-09 6:05 PM (#222462 - in reply to #201733)
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you are VERY good at repairing cars, that´s for sure! keep up the good work you will be rewarded in the end. i´m looking forward to see your next "movie" on youtube starring 1957 desoto convertible;)
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Posted 2010-05-18 12:14 AM (#223902 - in reply to #201733)
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Nice car bud! That IS my dream car, '57 Adventurer convertible black and gold. You are very fortunate my friend! Nice job.
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Posted 2010-05-18 10:22 AM (#223923 - in reply to #201733)
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Just something to keep the spirit glowing Raffaele;)

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Posted 2010-05-18 3:49 PM (#223991 - in reply to #222385)
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Just saw your thread again now Rafaele - Porco Juda, che lavoro complimenti amico
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Posted 2010-05-18 7:51 PM (#224027 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2010-05-19 4:34 AM (#224060 - in reply to #201733)
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thank you guys!! next week I put on rotisserie like a chicken, so I can work better !!!


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Posted 2010-05-19 4:36 AM (#224061 - in reply to #201733)
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thanks for these pictures of adventurer black, black is my favorite color, but mine was originally white, are undecided about what color do....
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Posted 2010-05-19 8:56 AM (#224073 - in reply to #201733)
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That is one hell of a story behind this car, as told by Roadkillontheweb. I don't think you would be remiss in painting this one black, as she was painted black immediately upon delivery to the original owner.

Either way, it's going to be a stunning automobile, and one of the finest expressions of the Forward Look!
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Posted 2010-05-19 2:53 PM (#224113 - in reply to #201733)
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Hey, Morgan, if you (or anyone) have any more pics of that (still-original/Survivor/white-wheeled) 57 CRL vert,
can you post them on the "Dodge" thread, on this board???

The car was featured in Olde Cars Weakly, and I contacted its owner, but he didn't want to come 'here' and
show/discuss his car....said that he already knew everything that he wanted to know, about it.

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Posted 2010-05-19 10:54 PM (#224200 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2010-06-28 12:52 AM (#229958 - in reply to #201733)
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The story behind the car might have just got a little more interesting.
I hate to bring up anything political on this forum but I thought this was interesting.

I got an email from someone that had read that my old Desoto Aventurer convertible was sold new at the Hollywood Perkins Desoto dealership in Wilmington Deleware. Following is the email.

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Just saw your article about your Desoto. I was searching for info about my Grandfather who died 2 months after I was born. His name was Colonel James F Hollywood, co-owner of the dealership you spoke of. I am trying to find some old pictures of his dealership. It is now a beaten up motorcycle club in what is now the worst part of Wilmington. Let me know if I can help you with any information. My Grandfather employed Joe Bidens father and uncle there in the 50's."

I was sceptical so I did a Wiki search on Joe and this was in the information about him.

"Biden's father had been very well-off earlier in his life, but had suffered several business reverses by the time Biden was born, and for several years the family had to live with Biden's maternal grandparents, the Finnegans. When the Scranton area went into economic decline during the 1950s, Biden's father could not find enough work. In 1953, the Biden family moved to an apartment in Claymont, Delaware, where they lived for a few years before moving to a house in Wilmington, Delaware. Joe Biden Sr. then did better as a used car salesman, and the family's circumstances were middle class"

So I would say that the information is credible, and the VPs dad worked at the desoto dealership when joe was a teenager. in another article the Vice president stated "Joe Jr. learned a number of lessons during his father’s lean years that he regularly cites in speeches and interviews. In his autobiography, he tells the story of his father quitting a job as sales manager for an auto dealership because the owner, who liked to reward his employees and customers with silver dollars, decided to amuse himself at the dealership’s Christmas party by spilling out a bucket of silver dollars on the dance floor to watch his workers scramble to scoop up the coins. Joe Sr. gathered up his wife and walked out, never to return." So it appears from this he was a sales manager at Hollywood Perkins? It is possible that Joe SR was involved in the sale of this car.

Just some interesting information! No political flamewar please!
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Posted 2010-07-24 6:43 PM (#234065 - in reply to #201733)
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The suspense is killing me.......any more updates on this car???
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Posted 2010-07-25 1:07 PM (#234177 - in reply to #201733)
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Hello Guys!! I have not had time to continue, this time I have a lot of work, however, put more photos of the left side as soon as possible , thanks !!
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Posted 2010-07-25 2:36 PM (#234199 - in reply to #201733)
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The metalwork is amazing. Very talented. Can't wait to see more photos. She's coming along really nicely.
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Posted 2010-08-04 2:30 PM (#235656 - in reply to #201733)
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  hello guys ! Body metal work is very difficult in this car , everything is destroy by rust , in some points don't have reference for rebuild....Raffaele  

 

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Posted 2010-08-04 2:34 PM (#235659 - in reply to #201733)
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Tomorrow I leave for  California for 20 days and go to the junkyard  Ernie , in Colton CA , have only mopar 50' 60'
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Posted 2010-08-04 2:38 PM (#235660 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2010-08-04 2:45 PM (#235661 - in reply to #235659)
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Raffael,

If you have a chance take some pictures, please.

Have fun !!!

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Posted 2010-08-04 2:46 PM (#235662 - in reply to #201733)
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Have a great trip!

You're doing an excellent job on that rare car!!

---John
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Posted 2010-08-04 2:46 PM (#235663 - in reply to #235659)
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Raffael,

If you have a chance take some pictures, please.

Have fun !!!

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57desoto
Posted 2010-08-04 5:14 PM (#235674 - in reply to #201733)
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Like everyone else, Raffaele, I'm awestruck at the incredible job you're doing on this car. Thank you for posting all the pics and the video.

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sidesho_bob1961
Posted 2010-08-05 7:10 AM (#235731 - in reply to #201733)
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AHHH......You're doing a great job restoring my "dream car"........you just may be my hero.....
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Posted 2010-08-05 2:12 PM (#235774 - in reply to #201733)
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raffaele you area true craftsman.... whatcan i say! i look at what you did to that 59 300e

and watch the video i get chills.....

but this - was once the ultimate fwd lk cruiser owned by a cool careless teenager!

who in desperation sold it in 1960. selling drugs on /off campus in long island...

i do know harlem in the 50's was a drug empire.

so he sold it they kept it til it broke down and let it rot in a field.. the man bought it

too much for him to handle... theres nothing left to start from! - fabrication on top of

fabrication! itll take at least 2 years - if not longer - but itll be perfect! better than it

was when new!

good job man!
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