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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-14 1:07 PM (#343030 - in reply to #201733)
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-14 1:20 PM (#343031 - in reply to #201733)
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-14 1:23 PM (#343033 - in reply to #342969)
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di_ch_NY56 - 2012-10-14 9:19 AM Big congratulations to your effort and perfect work. Your Adventure is looking marvelous actually. I wish good luck for all work you have to do to finisih your wonderful Adventure. Do you start with the wiring harness, the heater system and the dahsbord soon? Happy Motoring! Dieter BTW: second sight: WOW, the windshield's mounted. I'm so happy to see the progress or your De Soto
yes , i will start with restoring the heater box and dashboard  , need also reassembly the engine and trans
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d500neil
Posted 2012-10-14 2:06 PM (#343034 - in reply to #343033)
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Raffa, how do you keep the door handles from chipping the paint around them, when you install the handles?

Two man job?

Masking tape around the openings?


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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2012-10-14 2:39 PM (#343039 - in reply to #343033)
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raffaplymouth - 2012-10-13 7:23 PM

di_ch_NY56 - 2012-10-14 9:19 AM Big congratulations to your effort and perfect work. Your Adventure is looking marvelous actually. I wish good luck for all work you have to do to finisih your wonderful Adventure. Do you start with the wiring harness, the heater system and the dahsbord soon? Happy Motoring! Dieter BTW: second sight: WOW, the windshield's mounted. I'm so happy to see the progress or your De Soto
yes , i will start with restoring the heater box and dashboard  , need also reassembly the engine and trans


Thank you very much for your answer. Big congratulation to your adjustment of the doors (and of course the alignement of all sheet metals of the body). The alignement of the doors of your wonderful Adventure is ways better than out of the factory and e.g. my Chrysler New Yorker (1956).
I bow my head! Happy Motoring!

Dieter
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moparsteve
Posted 2012-10-14 4:01 PM (#343044 - in reply to #201733)
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when it comes to vfoeward look cars, you are the best craftsman in the world!!! a pile of junk in 3 pieces that was once a car - and now this! if i ever win the lottery and money is no object and i need a fwd look restored - like my favoritre - a 1960 chrysler 300 f i will have it shipped to you no questions asked!
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Peter Panov
Posted 2012-10-17 9:37 AM (#343427 - in reply to #201733)
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Just couple lines to say you have done a great job on the car. It is unbelievable in what condition the car was and in what condition is it now.
And also great choice to paint the car in the original colors. It is such a nice car that it doesn't matter in what colors it will be, but bringing back theoriginal colors is the best choice you were able to do.
Respect for the great restoration!
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-17 9:47 AM (#343429 - in reply to #343034)
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d500neil - 2012-10-14 8:06 PM Raffa, how do you keep the door handles from chipping the paint around them, when you install the handles? Two man job? Masking tape around the openings?
i dont understand  why masking around handle ??  sorry  , i dont understand
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mogge65
Posted 2012-10-17 12:23 PM (#343456 - in reply to #201733)
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AMAZING, Raffaele just amazing! This thread will get me through the winter...............

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-18 3:20 AM (#343532 - in reply to #201733)
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Guys , anyone know lower windshield moldings clips ??? i dont success to find ... is like " L"
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d500neil
Posted 2012-10-18 3:28 AM (#343533 - in reply to #343532)
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Masking around the door handle openings can protect the paint from chipping or scratching when you are installing
the door handles ("fishing" the handle and its mechanisms into and through the opening, and positioning them, and tightening
them down).

The handles enter the openings at an angle, and then have to be turned/rotated somewhat to seat them properly, and
it is easy to move the handle's edges around, against the paint, in the process.




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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-18 3:03 PM (#343584 - in reply to #343533)
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d500neil - 2012-10-18 9:28 AM Masking around the door handle openings can protect the paint from chipping or scratching when you are installing the door handles ("fishing" the handle and its mechanisms into and through the opening, and positioning them, and tightening them down). The handles enter the openings at an angle, and then have to be turned/rotated somewhat to seat them properly, and it is easy to move the handle's edges around, against the paint, in the process.
oh yes ....  you right , good info !!
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-18 3:03 PM (#343585 - in reply to #201733)
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  someone know the correct color of this buckets ???   i dont find in the handbook ..  i think semigloss black ???



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57burb
Posted 2012-10-18 3:49 PM (#343596 - in reply to #201733)
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I have seen '57 Adventurers both ways, although I do think they are supposed to be black according to the factory literature I recall seeing.

The original press images show them body color. The original advertisement shows them black.

Is there any evidence of what color they were originally?






Most of the unrestored cars I've seen had them black, but restored cars are about half black and half body color. I think it's pretty evident that cars were built both ways.





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sidesho_bob1961
Posted 2012-10-18 3:54 PM (#343597 - in reply to #201733)
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I don't think he's asking about the outer headlite trim bezel. The picture is of the inner headlite buckets which actually holds the headlites, which I would think would be black.....
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-18 5:07 PM (#343612 - in reply to #343597)
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sidesho_bob1961 - 2012-10-18 9:54 PM I don't think he's asking about the outer headlite trim bezel. The picture is of the inner headlite buckets which actually holds the headlites, which I would think would be black.....
sorry .. My question is for inner buckets  i dont know the right name .. Headlight brackets .. 
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christine-lover
Posted 2012-10-18 5:19 PM (#343614 - in reply to #343612)
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Buckets is the right term, they seem to be galvanized, not painted.
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57desoto
Posted 2012-10-20 4:03 PM (#343879 - in reply to #201733)
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I do believe they are a galvanized metal, not painted, as christine-lover says. They can't be seen once on the car, so it isn't a major issue.
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-20 4:15 PM (#343881 - in reply to #201733)
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Bumpers ready to chrome redone ... i don't think this is the original bumpers or found from another car ... Lee Exline you know ??

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Posted 2012-10-20 4:18 PM (#343882 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-10-20 4:18 PM (#343883 - in reply to #343879)
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57desoto - 2012-10-20 10:03 PM I do believe they are a galvanized metal, not painted, as christine-lover says. They can't be seen once on the car, so it isn't a major issue.

ok for galvanized !! thanks

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Windsor59
Posted 2012-10-20 5:05 PM (#343886 - in reply to #343883)
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HI raffaplymouth
Soon it will be too late to repent, (has so desire to take over now)
Know that this is so darn fun to assemble great parts and see results
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roadkillontheweb
Posted 2012-10-20 6:08 PM (#343892 - in reply to #343881)
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Bumpers ready to chrome redone ... i don't think this is the original bumpers or found from another car ... Lee Exline you know ??


Front bumper must be from another car, as it did not have a front bumper when it left my house.
I figured I would use the bumper from my 57 Adventurer coupe parts car.



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roadkillontheweb
Posted 2012-10-20 6:35 PM (#343893 - in reply to #201733)
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Here is a shot of it on the trailer the day it left my house.




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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-22 2:33 PM (#344147 - in reply to #343893)
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roadkillontheweb - 2012-10-21 12:35 AM Here is a shot of it on the trailer the day it left my house.
i dont see also the rear bumper  ,  Antonello Jelitro take me front and rear bumper .. is of your coupè ??
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-22 2:36 PM (#344148 - in reply to #343596)
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57burb - 2012-10-18 9:49 PM I have seen '57 Adventurers both ways, although I do think they are supposed to be black according to the factory literature I recall seeing. The original press images show them body color. The original advertisement shows them black. Is there any evidence of what color they were originally? Most of the unrestored cars I've seen had them black, but restored cars are about half black and half body color. I think it's pretty evident that cars were built both ways.
Guys , i see two different fron bumper with or without bumperette  ... i dont have bumperette  ..
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earleebob
Posted 2012-10-22 3:39 PM (#344162 - in reply to #201733)
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Hi Raffi --- join the club they are quite rare. I think most rusted away when they filled up with mud. I am going to fabricate a pair from sheet metal --- cant be that hard!!!?
cheers Bob
BTW love your work
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-22 3:51 PM (#344163 - in reply to #344162)
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earleebob1 - 2012-10-22 9:39 PM Hi Raffi --- join the club they are quite rare. I think most rusted away when they filled up with mud. I am going to fabricate a pair from sheet metal --- cant be that hard!!!? cheers Bob BTW love your work :)
you speak for front bumperette ??
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-22 3:59 PM (#344164 - in reply to #201733)
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Guys someone have email adress of GARYGOERS ?
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Posted 2012-10-22 5:52 PM (#344176 - in reply to #344163)
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earleebob1 - 2012-10-22 9:39 PM Hi Raffi --- join the club they are quite rare. I think most rusted away when they filled up with mud. I am going to fabricate a pair from sheet metal --- cant be that hard!!!? cheers Bob BTW love your work :)
you speak for front bumperette ??


yes the front ones



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Posted 2012-10-22 6:15 PM (#344180 - in reply to #344164)
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Guys someone have email adress of GARYGOERS ?


gary@garygoers.com
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d500neil
Posted 2012-10-22 6:29 PM (#344188 - in reply to #344180)
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The white (never gold, right?) 1957 Adventurer headlight panels were probably, like the 1961 DeSoto's partially-painted
tail light housings, and the body-color painted 1957 Dodge (non-Dog-Dish-) wheels were probably prototype/pre-production/
advertising agency creations, that never made it into production.

Did all of the 1957 DeSoto production models have the black (subcontractor-)painted headlight doors, or did any
of their models have body-color painted headlight panels?





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roadkillontheweb
Posted 2012-10-22 9:52 PM (#344243 - in reply to #344147)
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roadkillontheweb - 2012-10-21 12:35 AM Here is a shot of it on the trailer the day it left my house.
i dont see also the rear bumper  ,  Antonello Jelitro take me front and rear bumper .. is of your coupè ??

They did not come off of my coupe he must have picked them up somewhere else?
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Posted 2012-10-23 12:12 AM (#344257 - in reply to #201733)
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Raffaele, I recommend you are very careful when selecting the door weatherstrip. I think you will be disappointed with the product supplied by the usual parts suppliers. Especially if you have already glued it in place and find out your door doesn't fit right. Try taping it in place first to check the fit of the door. I have a 57 New Yorker and the door fit was great before installing the "replacement" weatherstrip, now the doors do not fit tight at the bottom rear (see photo 1).
The original door weatherstrip had 3 different profiles molded into one rubber strip (see photo 2), I'm sure the factory did this to allow the door to fit properly. But nobody that I can find makes the original style. I plan to replace mine with some for a late model car that has a similar profile, but is hollow (empty) inside so it can easily form to the different clearances between the door and jamb. Steve



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earleebob
Posted 2012-10-23 1:45 AM (#344267 - in reply to #201733)
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Raffaele, I also endorse what Steve has said. I have the aftermarket weathershield rubbers on my coupe and will have to remove them as they are buckling the door. we are going to see what we can find locally so we'll keep you posted.
Bob





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57desoto
Posted 2012-10-23 7:22 AM (#344274 - in reply to #201733)
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Raffaele, those front bumper guards are options, and only belong on your car if the cowl tag says so. NOT standard on Adventurers. Since you've gone this far trying to be as correct as possible on your car, I suggest leaving them off if they didn't come there. Look at the cowl tag and you'll know. Neil, we've had the headlight door discussion before -- I'm not aware of any 1957 DeSoto headlight doors being painted body color. The standard is black. HOWEVER, Wayne Graefen pointed out that SOME Adventurers built prior to February 1957 had argent painted headlight doors. Therefore, I guess it's possible that some Fireflites, for example, had them, too. For my money, I'd make them all black and know they are right.
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Posted 2012-10-23 10:22 AM (#344301 - in reply to #343882)
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That looks familiar, Raffey!

I just obtained a really nice, very light weight cover for my DeSoto that fits well and doesn't trap water and moisture under it, if you need a link to where you can find a cover that fits.

Just let me know.

You're doing GREAT work!

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-25 3:35 PM (#344593 - in reply to #344301)
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That looks familiar, Raffey! I just obtained a really nice, very light weight cover for my DeSoto that fits well and doesn't trap water and moisture under it, if you need a link to where you can find a cover that fits. Just let me know. You're doing GREAT work! :)
look like is better buy a bigger cover , correct cover is small , for 2 door is better car cover of 4 door , the same problem in other cars
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Posted 2012-10-25 3:40 PM (#344595 - in reply to #344274)
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57desoto - 2012-10-23 1:22 PM Raffaele, those front bumper guards are options, and only belong on your car if the cowl tag says so. NOT standard on Adventurers. Since you've gone this far trying to be as correct as possible on your car, I suggest leaving them off if they didn't come there. Look at the cowl tag and you'll know. Neil, we've had the headlight door discussion before -- I'm not aware of any 1957 DeSoto headlight doors being painted body color. The standard is black. HOWEVER, Wayne Graefen pointed out that SOME Adventurers built prior to February 1957 had argent painted headlight doors. Therefore, I guess it's possible that some Fireflites, for example, had them, too. For my money, I'd make them all black and know they are right.
ok ! Ed , tomorrow i will check on my plate , i think have the bumper guard .. thank for your help
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Posted 2012-10-25 3:43 PM (#344596 - in reply to #344257)
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Leadfoot1000 - 2012-10-23 6:12 AM Raffaele, I recommend you are very careful when selecting the door weatherstrip. I think you will be disappointed with the product supplied by the usual parts suppliers. Especially if you have already glued it in place and find out your door doesn't fit right. Try taping it in place first to check the fit of the door. I have a 57 New Yorker and the door fit was great before installing the "replacement" weatherstrip, now the doors do not fit tight at the bottom rear (see photo 1). The original door weatherstrip had 3 different profiles molded into one rubber strip (see photo 2), I'm sure the factory did this to allow the door to fit properly. But nobody that I can find makes the original style. I plan to replace mine with some for a late model car that has a similar profile, but is hollow (empty) inside so it can easily form to the different clearances between the door and jamb. Steve
i will lt you know for this ..i have buy the door seal from goers  ..2 years ago
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-25 3:46 PM (#344597 - in reply to #344243)
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raffaplymouth - 2012-10-22 1:33 PM
roadkillontheweb - 2012-10-21 12:35 AM Here is a shot of it on the trailer the day it left my house.
i dont see also the rear bumper  ,  Antonello Jelitro take me front and rear bumper .. is of your coupè ??
They did not come off of my coupe he must have picked them up somewhere else?
you right Lee , Antonello told me have buy fenders, hood, and bumpers from a junkyard in Arizona !!
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-25 3:49 PM (#344598 - in reply to #344176)
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earleebob1 - 2012-10-22 11:52 PM
raffaplymouth - 2012-10-23 5:51 AM
earleebob1 - 2012-10-22 9:39 PM Hi Raffi --- join the club they are quite rare. I think most rusted away when they filled up with mud. I am going to fabricate a pair from sheet metal --- cant be that hard!!!? cheers Bob BTW love your work :)
you speak for front bumperette ??
yes the front ones

wow , great pictures .. i dont have this ,is very difficult to build ... i hope dont have in my plate ..

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FIN ME
Posted 2012-10-26 5:40 PM (#344719 - in reply to #201733)
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Here's the company we bought our car cover from.

They have covers made to fit the 1957 DeSotos. Ours fits very well.

They are very light in weight, and there are several types to choose from. We got the "ultimate" cover. It can be used on a car that is kept either outside or inside.

http://www.calcarcover.com/cover_materials.aspx?cname=All&ct=Both

I think ours cost a little over $300.00 USA plus shipping.

You can get your car's make and model put on it too for a little extra cost.

Such a beautiful car as yours deserves a nice coat.


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Posted 2012-10-28 1:38 PM (#344933 - in reply to #201733)
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all molding is installed definitly ... a lot of clips for install ... a lot of drill hole !!

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Posted 2012-10-28 1:40 PM (#344934 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-10-28 1:41 PM (#344935 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-10-28 1:45 PM (#344936 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-10-28 1:45 PM (#344937 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: RE: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible



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Hello Raffaele
Big thank you for your latest picture. I like your convertible very much. It looks so wonderful like a star from the sky - or like a dream that will never become true for me. It's very hard now to imagine how your De Soto once looked when you saw it the first time and - I assume - thousands of hours you spent to rejuvenate this rare beauty. I with you very good luck for your further work.

Happy Motoring!

Dieter
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-10-28 1:48 PM (#344939 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible


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i have installed the inner and outer windshield molding , all stainless steel polished , the screws look like #10 but the head is too big fot the seat ... look like is ok #10 screw with #8 head dimension ... someone can help me ??
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Posted 2012-10-28 1:52 PM (#344940 - in reply to #344937)
Subject: RE: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible


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di_ch_NY56 - 2012-10-28 7:45 PM Hello Raffaele Big thank you for your latest picture. I like your convertible very much. It looks so wonderful like a star from the sky - or like a dream that will never become true for me. It's very hard now to imagine how your De Soto once looked when you saw it the first time and - I assume - thousands of hours you spent to rejuvenate this rare beauty. I with you very good luck for your further work. Happy Motoring! Dieter
Thank you for considering these...where you live in swisse ?? i go every year at oesingen car meeting ...
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