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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-12-01 3:11 PM (#349306 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-01 3:15 PM (#349308 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-01 3:16 PM (#349309 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-01 3:18 PM (#349310 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-01 3:20 PM (#349311 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-01 3:44 PM (#349317 - in reply to #201733)
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the gas tank color is not correct .... correct was silver , but this tank that i have buy in the Usa , is rebuilded , is treathed inner and outer with coating .. is not possible paint in silver .. become a s**t ...

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Posted 2012-12-02 1:00 PM (#349439 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-02 1:15 PM (#349441 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-02 1:18 PM (#349442 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-02 1:23 PM (#349444 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-02 1:25 PM (#349445 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-02 1:30 PM (#349446 - in reply to #201733)
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A Question ... i dont have the clock , i have this cap .... , look like original , but i dont know .. i think all adventurer have clock .. probably this cap is for steering wheel clock ??


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Posted 2012-12-02 1:45 PM (#349447 - in reply to #201733)
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Ed , you know the color of this ?? , i dont find on the handbook .. look like brown like column ?? and the vinil color upolstery for the dash ?? , you can send me pictures of your ADV ??

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Posted 2012-12-02 1:55 PM (#349448 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-02 2:02 PM (#349450 - in reply to #201733)
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Also this pushbutton support look like green- grey ... strange ....

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Posted 2012-12-02 3:54 PM (#349458 - in reply to #201733)
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The steering column cover (half "U" shape that goes against the firewall) ought to be the same brownish color as the column, not black. The gauges should be argent silver, as you say. The clock delete is in fact correct for the dash as you have it, not for the steering wheel. I don't think I've ever seen an Adventurer without a clock, but I can't find anything in my books that says a dash clock is standard on Adventurers. Maybe someone else here can help. The dash clock is extra cost on Fireflites. The heater duct pieces, column support, and radio speaker cover in your picture should be, as you say, the same as the steering column, the funny brownish that without custom mixing is pretty close to Rustoleum Bronze here in the US. I'll send you a pic or two from my car. If you REALLY want to be correct, and hardly anyone is that fussy, the underside of the hood shouldn't be painted body color. DeSoto left it in the funny grey primer, or if you were lucky, you got a charcoal-brown tarry underhood waffle-pattern sound deadener. Definitely not fiberglass for the the '57.
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-12-02 4:14 PM (#349462 - in reply to #349458)
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57desoto - 2012-12-02 9:54 PM The steering column cover (half "U" shape that goes against the firewall) ought to be the same brownish color as the column, not black. The gauges should be argent silver, as you say. The clock delete is in fact correct for the dash as you have it, not for the steering wheel. I don't think I've ever seen an Adventurer without a clock, but I can't find anything in my books that says a dash clock is standard on Adventurers. Maybe someone else here can help. The dash clock is extra cost on Fireflites. The heater duct pieces, column support, and radio speaker cover in your picture should be, as you say, the same as the steering column, the funny brownish that without custom mixing is pretty close to Rustoleum Bronze here in the US. I'll send you a pic or two from my car. If you REALLY want to be correct, and hardly anyone is that fussy, the underside of the hood shouldn't be painted body color. DeSoto left it in the funny grey primer, or if you were lucky, you got a charcoal-brown tarry underhood waffle-pattern sound deadener. Definitely not fiberglass for the the '57.
Thank you very much for this help !! The half metal cover   I thought it was the convertible motor cover !! Instead is the lower column .. And will be in brown !!  I will paint the inside hood in grey like inner fender !! But the car have undercoating .. On the floor is not grey ..i will check for a clock and bezel ...
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Posted 2012-12-02 4:51 PM (#349466 - in reply to #201733)
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Raffaele,

Are you doing this as original restoration, if so most of the bits you have painted Black behind dash should be Zinc plated?
i think they still have the dash clock mounted even with steering clock,
everything on the dash top should be Brown, t
he lower surrounds are the front windshield are textured finish,
not sure but will have to check i think the clamp between the column and steering box should be Zinc plated,
the fuel tank would have been undersealed after being fitted (if your car came with factory undercoating) so i would not worry too much on it being black, they do new tanks and filler necks for these now,
the Hood would have been painted grey first then will have overspray from the white around the edges,
but if your doing to you own taste dont worry about it,

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Posted 2012-12-03 7:31 AM (#349527 - in reply to #201733)
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I'm not sure if my computer monitor is showing it correctly or not, also, but it looks like your dash itself is white. It shouldn't be. Seen the restoration manual. It should be Ditzler #21281 Desert Beige, regardless of the body color. Hope you got the pictures I emailed you.
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-12-03 7:50 AM (#349529 - in reply to #201733)
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yes ED !! id dietzler code Beige !! not white ... is problem of my camera
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-12-03 11:14 AM (#349547 - in reply to #349466)
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springsweptwing - 2012-12-02 10:51 PM Raffaele, Are you doing this as original restoration, if so most of the bits you have painted Black behind dash should be Zinc plated? i think they still have the dash clock mounted even with steering clock, everything on the dash top should be Brown, t he lower surrounds are the front windshield are textured finish, not sure but will have to check i think the clamp between the column and steering box should be Zinc plated, the fuel tank would have been undersealed after being fitted (if your car came with factory undercoating) so i would not worry too much on it being black, they do new tanks and filler necks for these now, the Hood would have been painted grey first then will have overspray from the white around the edges, but if your doing to you own taste dont worry about it, Paul.
thank you very much for this info !! but the clumn cover original color was brown ... for the inner hood  will be undercoating , but everything also the corner ??
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d500neil
Posted 2012-12-03 3:44 PM (#349584 - in reply to #201733)
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Raffa, I forget if your car was factory undercoated, or not, but if you are going to apply that thick, textured (high-pressure)
undercoating to the hood, you might as well have a facility apply it to the undercarriage, too.

The undercoating will almost certainly adhere to that gas tank, and the factory undercoating did fully encompass/cover the gas
tank, so its present black color will not be evident, after it is undercoated.

Please remember that ONLY the floor pans and the inner wheel housings were undercoated (before the body was 'dropped' onto
the assembled chassis), so your shop should avoid applying any undercoating to the frame rails and the driveline and the
suspension components.

Actually, the wheel housings were undercoated, after the body was mated to the chassis....in a separate operation.

If a testing shows that (even-) undercoating will not adhere to the gas tank's finish, you can have the tank's lower
and sides be sand-blasted, to create a roughened surface, which could then be primered, before the tank
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-12-08 2:46 PM (#350245 - in reply to #201733)
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yesterday , in a Film TV of 50s ... 57 and 58 Desoto Convertable ...

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Posted 2012-12-08 3:04 PM (#350247 - in reply to #201733)
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this is the stuffing .. i have found the correct upolstery in brown , but is very difficult install glued ... around the cluster too difficult

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Posted 2012-12-09 4:31 PM (#350392 - in reply to #201733)
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You should get one of these...perfect fit

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Posted 2012-12-09 4:37 PM (#350393 - in reply to #201733)
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I highly recommend them...and they can dye to your color



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Posted 2012-12-09 5:21 PM (#350400 - in reply to #201733)
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They look fantastic, Tim.

Had a quick squiz at their website and they have a very wide range of dash pads.

Unfortunately nothing for RHD DeSotos (that could have saved me some work).


So there's no stopping you now Raffe!



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Posted 2012-12-10 2:09 AM (#350462 - in reply to #350392)
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tnlowrider - 2012-12-09 10:31 PM You should get one of these...perfect fit http://autoline.lillholmen.se/us/product_info.php?cPath=9_1_15&...

 

look like perfect  ... was going to put  the vinyl that I found in correct brown ... I'll try but it is not easy, otherwise it will buy this ... how much it costs?

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Posted 2012-12-10 2:10 AM (#350463 - in reply to #201733)
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Cluster polished , cleaned , all white number repassing with hand

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Posted 2012-12-10 2:12 AM (#350464 - in reply to #201733)
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No rechromed this parts  , everything polished , cleaned , only the semigloss face was repainted .. i have work saturday and sunday for rebuild this Cluster , radio and gauges .....  everything work ... also the Radio ... 69k miles i think was original miles ..  brake pedal pads was not damaged too.. also the gas pedal , i decided to not put at zero the counter ...Lee Exline you have info for the miles of this car ??.. no miles indicated on the old title  ...

 

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Posted 2012-12-10 2:33 AM (#350469 - in reply to #350464)
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Posted 2012-12-10 2:37 AM (#350470 - in reply to #350469)
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d500neil - 2012-12-10 8:33 AM Sheeeeit, I'd 'zero' the odometer, since the car is going back to Day-One.....

i know but yesterday I was undecided .. I finally decided this ...

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Posted 2012-12-10 8:07 AM (#350490 - in reply to #201733)
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The cluster was original to the car so those miles should be accurate. The car was off the road by the early 60s so that would be about right for annual mileage also.
Things are looking great! Have you tried to call Marilyn yet?
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Posted 2012-12-10 2:56 PM (#350565 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-10 2:59 PM (#350567 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-10 3:03 PM (#350568 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-10 3:35 PM (#350572 - in reply to #201733)
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Personally I wouldn't zero the odometer, because it would tell the history of this wonderful Adventure - even though the Adventure is better than new.
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Posted 2012-12-10 5:21 PM (#350579 - in reply to #350572)
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I zero my odometer after i has renovaiting My windsor
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Posted 2012-12-10 8:40 PM (#350614 - in reply to #201733)
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Raffaele,
Looks like you were able to make the material work for the dash cover. The guy I worked with at RD Autoline is Tony Zetterquist. The cost of the cover last year was $550 USD and $120 USD to have it dyed. Mine got dyed a little lighter than I had intended but was because I sent an original piece of the cover for matching and it had faded some due to sunlight. The shape of the reproduction cover fit over the dash like a glove! This dash cover from RD Autoline, Wiring Harnass from Greg Leggat, and the reproduction fuel tank are the best things I have bought for my Firedome.
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Posted 2012-12-11 7:07 AM (#350673 - in reply to #201733)
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tnlowrider, did you replace the buttons in the shifter? I think yours may be from a Chrysler, which engages the starter with a push of the neutral button. Here's a pic of the DeSoto version, without the "start". No biggie, of course, but I'm just curious...



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raffaplymouth
Posted 2012-12-11 7:13 AM (#350674 - in reply to #350673)
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57desoto - 2012-12-11 1:07 PM tnlowrider, did you replace the buttons in the shifter? I think yours may be from a Chrysler, which engages the starter with a push of the neutral button. Here's a pic of the DeSoto version, without the "start". No biggie, of course, but I'm just curious...
Ed .. My button is destroyed .. No start on the button .. Like the picture .. You know a guy that sell this buttons ??  Need also the two molding ( painted) on the upper of the dash ( on the base of windshield
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Posted 2012-12-11 7:38 AM (#350677 - in reply to #350674)
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Posted 2012-12-11 10:04 AM (#350694 - in reply to #350677)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2012-12-11 1:38 PM Is it possible to install the windlace without removing the dash ? I remember having to pull it.

i think is easy install Windlace before ... and after put the dash

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Posted 2012-12-11 10:05 AM (#350695 - in reply to #201733)
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On Adventurer the Windlace is only brown ???
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Posted 2012-12-11 10:30 AM (#350698 - in reply to #201733)
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Yea, the "N/start" button came from a 58 Chrysler. I knew it was wrong but it was the only "un-cracked" neutral button I had at the time. I now have the correct one...as I have gathered more parts. I wouldn't mind leaving the incorrect one in place as it is in excellent condition. These buttons are very hard to find without cracks. It's something you won't see until it is illuminated. At the time I assembled my dash I had 5 complete selectors and was only able to assemble 1 set of un-cracked buttons...with the "R" and "N" buttons being the worst for cracking. Oh yea, and whatever you do....don't get lacquer thinner close to these buttons! Acrylic and lacquer thinner are not compatible.
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Posted 2012-12-11 10:37 AM (#350700 - in reply to #350698)
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tnlowrider - 2012-12-11 4:30 PM Yea, the "N/start" button came from a 58 Chrysler. I knew it was wrong but it was the only "un-cracked" neutral button I had at the time. I now have the correct one...as I have gathered more parts. I wouldn't mind leaving the incorrect one in place as it is in excellent condition. These buttons are very hard to find without cracks. It's something you won't see until it is illuminated. At the time I assembled my dash I had 5 complete selectors and was only able to assemble 1 set of un-cracked buttons...with the "R" and "N" buttons being the worst for cracking. Oh yea, and whatever you do....don't get lacquer thinner close to these buttons! Acrylic and lacquer thinner are not compatible.

wow .. good info

 

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Posted 2012-12-11 10:40 AM (#350701 - in reply to #201733)
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Flat clear on gauges and radio ...

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Posted 2012-12-11 10:43 AM (#350702 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2012-12-11 11:08 AM (#350705 - in reply to #350694)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2012-12-11 1:38 PM Is it possible to install the windlace without removing the dash ? I remember having to pull it.

i think is easy install Windlace before ... and after put the dash



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Easy, yes. But my question is: Is it POSSIBLE to install the windlace without pulling the dash ????
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Posted 2012-12-11 11:14 AM (#350706 - in reply to #350705)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2012-12-11 1:38 PM Is it possible to install the windlace without removing the dash ? I remember having to pull it.

i think is easy install Windlace before ... and after put the dash

===================================================== Easy, yes. But my question is: Is it POSSIBLE to install the windlace without pulling the dash ????

yes , i have change on my 57 Plymouth .. i have removed the lower bolt ...  difficult work

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