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raffaplymouth
Posted 2014-04-13 9:45 AM (#435799 - in reply to #415079)
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bbrasse1 - 2013-12-08 1:55 PM it looks like the block was decked and the heads milled, no adj push rods or adj rockers? Great work!
i dont think adventurea have adjustable valvetrain ---

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2014-04-13 10:01 AM (#435803 - in reply to #435353)
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Fintail and Son - 2014-04-10 10:07 PM Raffaele-- Mi scusi. Ho appena letto la tua storia per la prima volta. Complimenti per la vostra determinazione. Deve essere soddisfacente. Congratulations on all your work for so many years on your DeSoto. In the 1970's I found a '57 Adventurer convertible buried under bushes near Richmond, Virginia. It was too much for me to work on and I did not have any money to have someone restore it for me. I sold the car to a collector who restored it, but I have regretted it all these years. I can't wait to see the finished product.---Fred.
Thanks you Fred .. yes look like a very long restoration ..i dont have much time for spend in this work .. there will still 2 years 

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2014-04-21 12:42 PM (#437136 - in reply to #201733)
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Guys , the next week will be ready for rebuilt the transmission !... anyone know the correct color if is silver or unpainted ???
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2014-04-21 12:43 PM (#437137 - in reply to #201733)
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im looking also for a used steering wheels .. anyone have a good used steering ?? is the same of 57-58 Chrysler
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ToMopar
Posted 2014-04-21 3:07 PM (#437152 - in reply to #201733)
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Raffaele, I think 57 DeSotos has the two tone steering wheels, not sure for adventurer.
I bought mine (black NOS) at jcauto.com





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raffaplymouth
Posted 2014-04-21 3:33 PM (#437154 - in reply to #201733)
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Tom .. Im serious interested in this ?? U can found another ????????
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FIN ME
Posted 2014-04-22 8:50 AM (#437251 - in reply to #201733)
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Hey, Raffey!

Here's a photo of a proper Adventurer interior and steering wheel for ya!

I had this very same style of steering wheel recast for my car (just different colours) from this business in North Carolina, USA - http://www.danddautomobilia.com/Welcome.html

I got the name of this company from a very good, professional restorer who is located here in the USA. He told me that he has used this company before to recast many steering, and that the steering wheels always looked great, and that they last - they don't crack or fade with time. The colour of the steering wheel goes throughout the steering wheel, and not just on the surface.

I contacted the owner of this business today, and he says that he just happens to have an old steering wheel that is just like the one that you need for your Adventurer. He says that he could use it to recast a new steering wheel for you, in the correct Adventurer colours. The steering wheel cost him $150.00 originally, and the recasting would cost $1,100.00. Shipping to Italy would be approx. $100.00. I know that this is not cheap, BUT it is what it costs these days to have a steering wheel recast by a talented and experienced professional. Besides, your gorgeous car deserves a very beautiful steering wheel, in my humble opinion.

He says that e-mail is the best way to communicate with him. don@danddautomobilia.com

Hope this helps.



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ToMopar
Posted 2014-04-22 1:31 PM (#437279 - in reply to #201733)
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Raffaele,

I have looked several hours to find another steering wheel. I found only the black one at jcauto.com

Here is the result of internet:
http://www.qualityrestorations.com/desoto.html
http://www.pearlcraft.com.au/repairs.htm
http://danddautomobilia.com/About_Us.html
http://www.garyssteeringwheel.com/gallery.htm
http://www.kochssteeringwheels.com
http://www.rimblowrestorations.co.nz/

another source is Magnus in sweden:
http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=47553&...
http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23168

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57desoto
Posted 2014-04-22 9:30 PM (#437327 - in reply to #201733)
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Rosy, I know you mean well, but when you say "proper Adventurer interior and steering wheel", you're misleading him. Those wood burl accents are a custom touch (I believe by Alan Day), and the steering wheel gold isn't the correct color (although the wheel IS nice). Here's a pic from my car. I need a new dash pad, and the carpeting isn't correct, but the gold on the steering wheel is original. Even given years of fading, the hue is much more greenish-gold. No wood accents belong on the dash.



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raffaplymouth
Posted 2014-04-23 11:01 AM (#437386 - in reply to #437251)
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FIN ME - 2014-04-22 2:50 PM Hey, Raffey! Here's a photo of a proper Adventurer interior and steering wheel for ya! I had this very same style of steering wheel recast for my car (just different colours) from this business in North Carolina, USA - http://www.danddautomobilia.com/Welcome.html I got the name of this company from a very good, professional restorer who is located here in the USA. He told me that he has used this company before to recast many steering, and that the steering wheels always looked great, and that they last - they don't crack or fade with time. The colour of the steering wheel goes throughout the steering wheel, and not just on the surface. I contacted the owner of this business today, and he says that he just happens to have an old steering wheel that is just like the one that you need for your Adventurer. He says that he could use it to recast a new steering wheel for you, in the correct Adventurer colours. The steering wheel cost him $150.00 originally, and the recasting would cost $1,100.00. Shipping to Italy would be approx. $100.00. I know that this is not cheap, BUT it is what it costs these days to have a steering wheel recast by a talented and experienced professional. Besides, your gorgeous car deserves a very beautiful steering wheel, in my humble opinion. He says that e-mail is the best way to communicate with him. don@danddautomobilia.com Hope this helps. :)
wow !   very expensive..  but for this car i think is very important ... i have also sttering clock !!  i will contact ... i can also ship my old steering to him?

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2014-04-23 11:03 AM (#437389 - in reply to #437279)
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ToMopar - 2014-04-22 7:31 PM Raffaele, I have looked several hours to find another steering wheel. I found only the black one at jcauto.com Here is the result of internet: http://www.qualityrestorations.com/desoto.html http://www.pearlcraft.com.au/repairs.htm... http://danddautomobilia.com/About_Us.html http://www.garyssteeringwheel.com/gallery.htm... http://www.kochssteeringwheels.com http://www.rimblowrestorations.co.nz/... another source is Magnus in sweden: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=47553&... http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23168[/QUOTE] Thank you Tom ...  i will contact also Magnus !

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2014-04-23 11:04 AM (#437390 - in reply to #201733)
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i have the original steering but is very bad .. if i found a black steering for a chip price is possible paint ....
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-04-23 11:13 AM (#437396 - in reply to #201733)
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I have been reading through all the pages of his thread. Even though some of the earlier photos have been removed n can see you do amazing work! Beautiful car and good luck as you continue the restoration! Looking forward to seeing road shots of this car!
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FIN ME
Posted 2014-04-23 8:06 PM (#437474 - in reply to #437327)
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57desoto - 2014-04-22 9:30 PM

Rosy, I know you mean well, but when you say "proper Adventurer interior and steering wheel", you're misleading him. Those wood burl accents are a custom touch (I believe by Alan Day), and the steering wheel gold isn't the correct color (although the wheel IS nice). Here's a pic from my car. I need a new dash pad, and the carpeting isn't correct, but the gold on the steering wheel is original. Even given years of fading, the hue is much more greenish-gold. No wood accents belong on the dash.


You are correct, Sir! I should have said proper steering wheel, as in the proper type. I know that the wood accents are not original...didn't notice when I posted the pic to tell you the truth. (blush) The colours don't look that gold on my ancient computer screen, but I do see a real difference now, between the the colours in the photo of the steering wheel that I posted and the photo of the steering wheel in your car.

This is why we need you around, Ed! Stay ever vigilant!

Very pretty interiors on those '57 Adventurers!




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FIN ME
Posted 2014-04-23 8:10 PM (#437477 - in reply to #437386)
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...i can also ship my old steering to him?



You can ship your old steering wheel from your Adventurer to him, Raffey. He needs an original steering wheel for the core. He uses that part in the construction of the new steering wheel. It might cost you about $100.00 to ship your old steering wheel to him. He said he had an old one at his ship already that would cost you $150.00, so you would save $50.00 if you shipped your steering wheel to him.

Good luck, Raffey! This guy does great work!


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Posted 2014-04-27 2:02 PM (#438124 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2014-04-27 2:11 PM (#438125 - in reply to #201733)
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<p>Lee Exline ... this is original Transmission of this car ?? you found in the car ?? .. Antonello told me was removed .... veri s**t and sludge inside</p>

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2014-04-27 2:16 PM (#438127 - in reply to #201733)
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Guys .. i think the transmission color is correct

cast case silver ( i see the old paint )

bellhousing alluminium no paint

tail alluminium no paint

brake parking housing black

oil pan black
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Posted 2014-04-27 9:03 PM (#438178 - in reply to #201733)
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Raffy, isn't the aluminum bell housing painted silver, here?






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Posted 2014-04-28 6:48 AM (#438228 - in reply to #201733)
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All silver.
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raffaplymouth
Posted 2014-04-28 2:51 PM (#438289 - in reply to #438228)
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57desoto - 2014-04-28 12:48 PM All silver.
yes ! But not all painted .. Bell and tail is alluminium unpainted ... Is correct ??

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2014-04-28 2:56 PM (#438290 - in reply to #438178)
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d500neil - 2014-04-28 3:03 AM Raffy, isn't the aluminum bell housing painted silver, here?
bellhousing ant tail is silver but no painted .. Is the color of alluminium .. Case is cast iron 

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2014-04-28 3:01 PM (#438291 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2014-11-06 5:39 AM (#461114 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2014-11-06 5:45 AM (#461115 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2014-11-06 5:49 AM (#461116 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2014-11-06 6:04 AM (#461122 - in reply to #461116)
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Posted 2014-11-06 6:10 AM (#461123 - in reply to #461122)
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Posted 2014-11-06 6:15 AM (#461124 - in reply to #201733)
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Posted 2014-11-06 6:17 AM (#461125 - in reply to #461124)
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Posted 2014-11-06 6:20 AM (#461126 - in reply to #461125)
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Posted 2014-11-06 6:24 AM (#461127 - in reply to #461126)
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Posted 2014-11-06 6:30 AM (#461128 - in reply to #201733)
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Wow, Raffaele
It looks that I have to drive to Turin soon, to take a ride
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Posted 2014-11-06 7:19 AM (#461134 - in reply to #461127)
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Guys .. anyone have some pictures of Generator brackets and locations ???

 

 

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Posted 2014-11-06 7:21 AM (#461135 - in reply to #461128)
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ToMopar - 2014-11-06 12:30 PM Wow, Raffaele It looks that I have to drive to Turin soon, to take a ride ;)
SURE TOM !!

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Posted 2014-11-06 4:10 PM (#461191 - in reply to #201733)
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Congratulatione it looks wonderful. I wish I would have time to see your De Soto in nature. Good luck for all your work you'll do on your De Soto.

 

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Posted 2014-11-08 3:16 AM (#461311 - in reply to #201733)
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Thank You ... Now i have ordered all interior Clothing from SMS Interior ... very long time for have this ....i waiting from 6 month !!
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Posted 2014-11-08 3:36 AM (#461312 - in reply to #201733)
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guys .. Anyone have some pictures of water pump pulley ? Im working for build 

 

 

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Posted 2014-11-08 3:41 AM (#461313 - in reply to #201733)
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Engine and transmission is ready .. The next week would be finish all belt service .. Generator , power steering , radiator ... Around 1 month wil be start the engine !
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Posted 2014-11-08 9:26 AM (#461321 - in reply to #461313)
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Raffaele - Looks like it's really coming together. I'll bet you can't wait until you start it for the first time.

One thing I noticed is that your power brake bellows is upside down. The vacuum port is supposed to be on the other side. Also, AFAIK, the curved port did not make an appearance until '60, to accomodate the tight fit of the long rams.

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Posted 2014-11-08 10:51 AM (#461325 - in reply to #461321)
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Ron .. oh s**t  .. you are sure of this ???  i think this booster was original found from Lee Exline !!  

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Posted 2014-11-08 1:12 PM (#461331 - in reply to #201733)
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Hi Raffaele

I just watched the picture of your wonderful engine. First of all I noticed that the left and the right hand side spark plug wire cover with the script De Soto are at the wrong place. The slashed side, which is longer than the other side should be at the back of the engine. The slashed side has the opening for the spark plug wires from the distributor.

About the generator: I think the generator is mounted the same way on all early Hemi engines. I found a picture of a 1958 Fireflite which has basically the same engine but less power.





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Posted 2014-11-08 2:25 PM (#461334 - in reply to #461325)
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raffaplymouth - 2014-11-08 10:51 AM

Ron .. oh s**t  .. you are sure of this ???  i think this booster was original found from Lee Exline !!  

I'm not an expert on Adventurers, so I'm going to double check that with a friend of mine that has a mostly original 57 Adventurer.

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Posted 2014-11-08 2:34 PM (#461335 - in reply to #461334)
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Ok Ron .. I see the pictures ... Brake booster look like correct ...

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Posted 2014-11-08 2:45 PM (#461337 - in reply to #461331)
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di_ch_NY56 - 2014-11-08 7:12 PM

Hi Raffaele

I just watched the picture of your wonderful engine. First of all I noticed that the left and the right hand side spark plug wire cover with the script De Soto are at the wrong place. The slashed side, which is longer than the other side should be at the back of the engine. The slashed side has the opening for the spark plug wires from the distributor.

About the generator: I think the generator is mounted the same way on all early Hemi engines. I found a picture of a 1958 Fireflite which has basically the same engine but less power.

yes Thanks for the pictures !! I know position of plug cover .. Is only put them ....your engine pictures is very important 

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Posted 2014-11-08 2:54 PM (#461338 - in reply to #201733)
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Pulley handmade ... But very close to original ....is 59 Chrysler and 69 charger welded and machined

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 2014-11-08 4:00 PM (#461341 - in reply to #461334)
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Just checked in with an Adventurer expert. Yes, what you have is correct. My mistake.

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Posted 2014-11-09 8:02 AM (#461357 - in reply to #201733)
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I probably have an original WP pulley from my 57 Fireflite that I won't be re-using. I also have a PS pump and pulley I am sure I will not be re-using. If you need either or both to help your project, let me know and you can have them for the price of shipping.
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Posted 2014-11-10 3:28 PM (#461483 - in reply to #461357)
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GregCon - 2014-11-09 2:02 PM I probably have an original WP pulley from my 57 Fireflite that I won't be re-using. I also have a PS pump and pulley I am sure I will not be re-using. If you need either or both to help your project, let me know and you can have them for the price of shipping.
you are very kind !  I have worked the end of the week for pulley made .. Generator bracket .. Is very close to original .... Let me know 

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raffaplymouth
Posted 2014-11-10 3:28 PM (#461484 - in reply to #201733)
Subject: Re: 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible


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