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mogge65
Posted 2010-03-14 9:41 PM (#213873)
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what xcatly is this? Rumor says special engine and trim! can anyone helpout? Morgan

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d500neil
Posted 2010-03-15 4:35 PM (#213975 - in reply to #213873)
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Convertibles (Dodge, anyway!) tended to have a "5" as the third BDY-digit; but, that ain't no Dodge, there,
altho it is all white, and was Scheduled to have been built o.o.a. 6/23/59

The serial number of "M" confirms 1959 production year.









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Posted 2010-03-15 9:53 PM (#214051 - in reply to #213873)
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As a start

0623 June 23 as noted above

555 Chrysler(5) NYer (5) convertbile (5)

M551 1959(M) Chrysler (5) NYer (5) made at Jefferson (1)

331 is the interior On 59 Desotos made at the same plant the 1 meant blue

XXX white
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Posted 2010-03-15 9:56 PM (#214053 - in reply to #214051)
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...So, there's a 59 NY vert, in Sweden?

Or, is it 'SOON' to be there?





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Posted 2010-03-15 11:52 PM (#214076 - in reply to #213873)
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Nope, it´s still in good ol´usa and will probably never leave..... it´s a friend who asked me if i knew anything of a special optioned chrysler newyorker model called "exprimental or something" he claims that he´s got receipt´s of labour( early sixties) including removal of 2x4 intake and oxidated gold emblems on the side of the car!? what comes in mind at first is how you could order a 1959 desoto fireflite with adventurer power! could it be a 300E optioned newyorker vert? if so it´s a very rare bird i would say

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Posted 2010-03-16 8:35 PM (#214230 - in reply to #214076)
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Morgan, please tell your friend to go buy a copy of the Historical Society's IBM build card ; it will have info on
it if this car was delivered to CHRY Engineering, or Special Ordered, or some-such.

That 'tag' is attached to the lower door hinge post?

Has he looked for the car's Broadcast sheet?



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mogge65
Posted 2010-03-18 2:30 AM (#214492 - in reply to #213873)
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Neil, this is what he answered me when i forwarded your last post! The tag is on the drivers hinge post between the upper and lower hinges. It is spot welded on and there is no tag on the upper cowl and no evidence of one ever being there...no holes or weld marks. There is still paint on the cowl or whats left of paint. Also no ID on the core support either where I think the 300's were located. I just started trying to locate the shops that supposedly worked on the car and see if anyone knows or remembers the car or find someone who worked there. Its a shot in the dark but its all I've got.
Thanks for the help. I'll look into the IBM card.....

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Posted 2010-03-18 11:09 PM (#214606 - in reply to #213873)
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It would be neat to find out if it was a special engineering car, but with such a late build date at the end of the 59 model year and just before changeover to the 60 models that would occur, makes it doubtful. But could have been an Chrysler exec or Dealer owner ordered car. IBM card info would indeed help.

But I still would want it!!! I would love to see more pictures of it if you could get some from the owner.
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Posted 2010-03-19 11:41 AM (#214671 - in reply to #213873)
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John, you will have to get inline , if he so much think´s he´s gonna sell it, i will be there like a hawk on a chicken. serious, he´s a real car crafter and found his dream come true years ago, and he shall perform a major resto. at the moment it´s a total basketcase! if i get more pic´s i will post them here! but there is one thing i could mention, he´s looking for a convertible top frame..................

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Posted 2010-03-19 4:04 PM (#214724 - in reply to #214671)
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I know a guy here at FL site (long time I see him here) ho owner a NY 1959 conv (+ one 1959 2 NY/ht red color) and he also looking after a top frame and he tell me he know 18 NY conv left.
Why are all top frame gone from the conv (put them to ather FL conv cars?)

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Posted 2010-03-19 6:15 PM (#214746 - in reply to #213873)
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Jocke, i think you are right. His Name is Brian. i met him on Facebook!
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Posted 2010-03-19 7:27 PM (#214754 - in reply to #213873)
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With all the re-poping going on you would think someone would re-pop the Top frames. Mopar Mel makes a fiberglass Header panel and the convertible frame irons are made out of cast Aluminum which I would think a mold could be made of them.

I do have a couple extra top frame parts but am wary of breaking any more of mine or finding a another convert with out a frame and a least having these parts to start with. I know of another very rusty 59 Plymouth Belvedere but it is missing it's top frame also. So who is taking these tops and why? Take the whole car and restore it.

Has anyone thought of recasting these parts? I could loan mine out for a mold purposes as long as I get them back.

What to do, what to do..
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Posted 2010-03-28 4:51 PM (#216129 - in reply to #214754)
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1959 Belvedere Conv - 2010-03-20 1:27 AM  .  . . .  Has anyone thought of recasting these parts? I could loan mine out for a mold purposes as long as I get them back. What to do, what to do..

I was thinking to substitute all iron elements of the top by black anodized aluminium replacements. Some shapes I would improve to lower the top when down (as mine), not visible when top on, and provide all nylon bearings, as well on my convertible. But first I have to enter all the system in 3-D for a full functional simulation to assure, that all works 100%. This needs some time investment, mostly to measure the dimensions of the elements (only one side!), and would be, as all others, a hobby-job. May-be somebody could hand-sketch them with the exact dimensions?

This project could be another, separate thread.- SERGE -



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Posted 2010-03-29 9:51 PM (#216323 - in reply to #216129)
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Serge, how long would you need these parts before you could return them? You would only need the side irons from one of the sides not the header crossover or the other three crossover parts?

My top is disassembled and I could send them to you, but they are like gold for me. Can't replace them...

I saw the other day on TV on a car show. Had Jay Leno showing off this 3D modeling machine that does a 360 degeee scan of a part to digitize it. The machine cost $20K plus US Dollars.

What dimensions would you need of them? :
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Posted 2010-04-07 8:21 PM (#217576 - in reply to #213873)
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Neil, brace you´re self , i´ve got stuff that will turn the mopar world upside down! would you believe that there actually is (were) two 1959 new yorkers built with an engine wich would exeed all 300 engines as of 1959! i am proceeding this info in my computor and will soon post pic´s of factory booklet with facts in it and engine spec´s

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Posted 2010-04-07 8:26 PM (#217581 - in reply to #213873)
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Wasn't that Mrs Doubtfire's 'foreplay'? Brace yourself, honey!

Show ME da money!




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Posted 2010-04-07 8:59 PM (#217597 - in reply to #213873)
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I use that term with my wife once a quarter when its that "time".....
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Posted 2010-04-07 9:57 PM (#217606 - in reply to #213873)
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These spec´s and info must be considered "not veriefied" but they are posted here so we could uncloud all facts and falsness!



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Posted 2010-04-09 8:08 PM (#217864 - in reply to #213873)
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I would say that that brochure is worth its weight in Unobtanium!

"Uh huh; yeah, sure...you've got a 'Special Edition New Yorker', there, that's faster and more powerful than a 300E????"

"And, they only made a 'couple' of them, as 'Experimental Models'...yeah....right."

"Prove it, to me....show me the documentation on it"

OK: here is IS!

The engineers were well aware of the air-catching nature of the 300's frontal area.

They, obviously, could have created a real low-buk Windsor muscle car, a la the Road Runner, but, this was a Chrysler,
after all, and they didn't want a Windsor to out-run a 300 !

This car demonstrates the effect of the 300's brick-like aerodynamics, altho the NY-E does have a hotter engine than the E,
so no categorical conclusions can be made based strictly upon the time differentials of the two cars.

What's really interesting, is that while only two(?) such cars were built, they were 'retailed', and a special brochure was
produced ON those 'two' cars, that were built!

So, where are they, now????



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Posted 2010-04-09 8:46 PM (#217872 - in reply to #217864)
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The thing that I noticed about the brochure is that A) it is typed instead of printed and B) that there are numerous spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors. Not what I'd expect from a major corporation like Chrysler. Also Bob Rodger's signature appears to have been added after the fact,

Maybe these two cars were produced, but for what reason ? Chrysler was on the verge of revamping styling, design and construction of all their cars. So what was the point of producing just two cars with this configuration ?

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Posted 2010-04-10 2:15 AM (#217896 - in reply to #213873)
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The "brochure" does not answer any questions, nor does it verify that such cars were built. If anything, it has opened a veritable Pandora's box.

I would like to see a copy of Mr. Rodger's signature. The one on the brochure looks too stiff.

The biggest question of the brochure is its existance, period. I could see Chrysler writing up a letter with all the pertinent details on the car but not this multi-page booklet with blank pages and spelling errors throughout.

Interesting that they replaced the New Yorker's 9.00x14" wheels/tires with 8.00x15" units. The New Yorker wheels were 14x6.50 while the Imperial's 15" wheel was 15x6.00. Whitewall Blue Streak tires?

Also strange they mention the use of Imperial power swivel seats as they were the same unit as used on Dodge, DeSoto and Chrysler models.

The admission Chrysler built two experimental models and sold them to the public does not sit well. Manufacturers do build experimental cars and they do permit selected members of the public to use them, but the cars remain property of the manufacturer and the users must file reports of their experiences. Such as the 50 Ghia turbines in 1964. If the car(s) are still intact and mobile when the tests are done, they may get sold at that point. No warranty to worry about by then, too.

Which leaves the only possible solution to the dilema - the build record. The owner is going to have to send his $45 to Chrysler Historical and find out what the car really had when it rolled off the assembly line, and where it went to.
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Posted 2010-04-10 9:30 AM (#217912 - in reply to #213873)
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I don´t think this car is "out of limits" just look what Curtis Redgap wrote on Allpar and i qoute:
Then, on top of all else, Dad picked up a rumor that there was some sort of plan to introduce a "watered down" version of the Chrysler 300 in the spring, either March or April to coincide with the usual upsurge of sales when warm weather arrived. Supposedly it would consist of only a hardtop and a convertible built on the Windsor chassis with the small wheelbase of 122 inches. It was to be euipped with upgraded interior, special identifying trim packages, and a high performance version of the new RB 383 c.i. "Golden Lion" Chrysler V-8. He hit the roof. "Here we are not being able to sell the real thing, and some knothead over in marketing wants to swamp us with a weak knee cousin that you probably couldn't give away"!
He spent the next two weeks practically living on the telephone to nail down this "300-X" project. When he did confirm that plans were in the works for just such a car, he mustered his dealership forces, along with the heavy hitters in stock holdings, and got the idea and the car nixed.
Gentlemen from the Mid-West area, named Mike, served on the Board. Like the Mike in the cereal commercials, he hated everything, and he surely hated the 300-X concept. Funny thing, though. About the time of the January introduction of the "E", we got a bunch of phamplets describing the 300-X. It set Dad off all over again, until we discovered that it had all been a mistake. The things we got were supposed to have been burned. We should have received the new 300 "E" model brochures, but, guess what... they went to the incinerator!
Of course, there were some people that wanted that car, and wanted it badly. When they figured out who was truly responsible for its demise, a sort of state of undeclared war occured. They kept right on beating that drum which resulted in a decision shortly after the cancellation of the "300-X", to introduce the "300" in 1962! Dad had made some powerful political enemies, even though he felt he was doing the right thing. However, he didn't take too much time to contemplate that situation. He was concentrating on getting Plymouth independent. contens is that very much oddnes circulated in this time! so two special new yorkers acting as "Testmules" for new intakes and gearboxes wouldn´t be that extreme! Morgan


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Posted 2010-04-10 2:42 PM (#217939 - in reply to #217912)
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I noticed the mild typos, too, but I also noticed the precise typewriter font and style of the Corporate language
that I (we've-) all seen many times before.

Rodger's ink-stamped signature doesn't bother me too much, either, as I've seen his stamped 'signature' before, too.

Then, there's the staples and the apparent aging of the brochure.

To me, this brochure looks as legitimate as any factory brochure that I've ever seen.

So: you nay-sayers, you are saying that someone FAKED this brochure, as a sort of 4/1/59 joke?

It's either real, or it isn't......

I'm, on the side of Never-Say-Never; anyone skilled enough to pull off this "HOAX" (you say) is knowledgeable enough
regarding the forging of a completely authentic-looking Corporate document, but also must know that the factory records
on such unique vehicles could be verified....so, why go to the trouble and expense and eventual ridicule, to produce
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Posted 2010-04-10 3:33 PM (#217947 - in reply to #216323)
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1959 Belvedere Conv - 2010-03-30 3:51 AM Serge, how long would you need these parts before you could return them? You would only need the side irons from one of the sides not the header crossover or the other three crossover parts? My top is disassembled and I could send them to you, but they are like gold for me. Can't replace them... I saw the other day on TV on a car show. Had Jay Leno showing off this 3D modeling machine that does a 360 degeee scan of a part to digitize it. The machine cost $20K plus US Dollars. What dimensions would you need of them? :

John, what I need are the exact outside dimensions of each part and the position and distance of the axes. Then I can model them in 3D and assemble a functional (virtual) top, enabling to open and close it. You still have an original top. My one is modified, resp. lowered when open. I can only take the dimensions of my modified one. I can measure them even when mounted. Getting your dimensions of one side in mm and an accuracy of 0.5 mm (the computer corrects the differences) would be sufficient. - SERGE .

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Posted 2010-04-10 11:01 PM (#217979 - in reply to #217912)
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mogge65 - 2010-04-10 6:30 AM

I don´t think this car is "out of limits" just look what Curtis Redgap wrote on Allpar and i qoute:
Then, on top of all else, Dad picked up a rumor that there was some sort of plan to introduce a "watered down" version of the Chrysler 300 in the spring, either March or April to coincide with the usual upsurge of sales when warm weather arrived. Supposedly it would consist of only a hardtop and a convertible built on the Windsor chassis with the small wheelbase of 122 inches. It was to be euipped with upgraded interior, special identifying trim packages, and a high performance version of the new RB 383 c.i. "Golden Lion" Chrysler V-8. He hit the roof. "Here we are not being able to sell the real thing, and some knothead over in marketing wants to swamp us with a weak knee cousin that you probably couldn't give away"!
He spent the next two weeks practically living on the telephone to nail down this "300-X" project. When he did confirm that plans were in the works for just such a car, he mustered his dealership forces, along with the heavy hitters in stock holdings, and got the idea and the car nixed.
Gentlemen from the Mid-West area, named Mike, served on the Board. Like the Mike in the cereal commercials, he hated everything, and he surely hated the 300-X concept. Funny thing, though. About the time of the January introduction of the "E", we got a bunch of phamplets describing the 300-X. It set Dad off all over again, until we discovered that it had all been a mistake. The things we got were supposed to have been burned. We should have received the new 300 "E" model brochures, but, guess what... they went to the incinerator!
Of course, there were some people that wanted that car, and wanted it badly. When they figured out who was truly responsible for its demise, a sort of state of undeclared war occured. They kept right on beating that drum which resulted in a decision shortly after the cancellation of the "300-X", to introduce the "300" in 1962! Dad had made some powerful political enemies, even though he felt he was doing the right thing. However, he didn't take too much time to contemplate that situation. He was concentrating on getting Plymouth independent. contens is that very much oddnes circulated in this time! so two special new yorkers acting as "Testmules" for new intakes and gearboxes wouldn´t be that extreme! Morgan



I would take everything Curtis Redgap wrote with a grain of salt. There are so many holes in his stories it puts his whole series under question.

In the case of the Windsor 300-X, dealers did not have to order cars they could not sell. Thus if a dealer ordered one, but had no buyers, he was stuck with one car. Only Henry Ford was able to force cars onto his dealers. And that one dealer could force the Chrysler Division to drop a new model, I find extremely unlikely. Also, 300-E sales were well below 1958, and thus Chrysler's idea to sell a smaller, and cheaper, muscle car. Which also places the New Yorker E in question, which would have been priced up with the 300-E.

- Mr. Redgap also reports in his stories that the 1960 DeSoto Adventurer was on a 126" wheelbase and used Chrysler's RB 383 engine. (Every Chrysler publication - parts, service, sales - shows a 122" wheelbase and the R 383.)

- The father was at the dealer intro of the 1957 models and declared them to be a disaster in the making with poor assembly, etc. (Cars fresh off the assembly line and he could tell they were going to rust!) Mr. Redcap also claims the 1957 Windsor was on the Dodge 122" wheelbase with a 354 hemi.

Although grandpa Redgap was pushing for Plymouth-only dealers, his own dealer sold Plymouth, Dodge, DeSoto, Chrysler and Imperial cars - in other words, the whole line. Apparently the Redgaps held a franchise directly with Chrysler, and not through a distributor. So why didn't the grandpa Redgap drop everything but Plymouth and put his money where his mouth was? One quick way to show the idea had merit.
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Posted 2010-04-11 1:07 AM (#217992 - in reply to #217872)
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I'm not a 300 guy, or a NYer guy. But I don't like it. In addition to the comments above on the hokey signature:


Suspension parts are all HD to minimize "sway" but no sway bar? (Enlighten me . . did the 300E have a sway bar?)

"Keep in touch", and tell us about your 1-of-2 car, just drop a line to "Chrysler Division"; the kid in the mail room is expecting it.

Coolant capacity is 17 qts. "with heater" but all AC cars had the 17 qt radiator, and AC is standard on this car.

Use of more recent lingo such as "let us know your likes", and the shorthand Max with no punctuation to express "maximum".

And the best one for last:

"We have taken the chance of selling this most powerful of cars to you . . . " and are stupid enough to put it like that in writing for the convenience of the attorney your widow will hire.

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Posted 2010-04-11 9:08 PM (#218108 - in reply to #213873)
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Bill, i agree with you that Mr Redgap isn´t flawless. but i wanted to show others that many hokus pokus stuff was under going at that time and probably still is in the autobusiness! if we go back to this newyorker that started this thread , i don´t think it was a new model they were testing! Just a Testmule for greater things to come! such as engine , tranny and brakes. Then if we look at the facts in the engine spec´s, did we get a 405 horsepowered engine at all? yes we did! 1962 300H here are pic´s of the car! let us keep digging in ma mopars pandora box!



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Posted 2010-04-12 8:07 AM (#218161 - in reply to #213873)
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Wow Mogge!
I like the pics at New Yorker in "jungel"
Have you bought the NY? or...
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Posted 2010-04-12 8:16 PM (#218233 - in reply to #213873)
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Morgan, are you saying that this convertible is the New Yorker-E(xperimental) that the brochure refers-to?

Has anyone written to the H.S. about getting a copy of this car's IBM Build card?




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Posted 2010-04-12 9:21 PM (#218246 - in reply to #213873)
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yes Neil, this is the car that this thread is all about! i´ve got these pic´s from the owner! i emidiatly noticed that the statement in the booklet say´s "all blue vinyl interior, but it looks like there has bin fabric on the seats! as for the ibm card we are awaiting that one!
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Posted 2010-04-13 12:05 AM (#218275 - in reply to #217939)
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d500neil - 2010-04-10 11:42 AM

I noticed the mild typos, too, but I also noticed the precise typewriter font and style of the Corporate language
that I (we've-) all seen many times before.

Rodger's ink-stamped signature doesn't bother me too much, either, as I've seen his stamped 'signature' before, too.

Then, there's the staples and the apparent aging of the brochure.

To me, this brochure looks as legitimate as any factory brochure that I've ever seen.

So: you nay-sayers, you are saying that someone FAKED this brochure, as a sort of 4/1/59 joke?

It's either real, or it isn't......

I'm, on the side of Never-Say-Never; anyone skilled enough to pull off this "HOAX" (you say) is knowledgeable enough
regarding the forging of a completely authentic-looking Corporate document, but also must know that the factory records
on such unique vehicles could be verified....so, why go to the trouble and expense and eventual ridicule, to produce
this thing?


Well, let's see . . .

"So: you nay-sayers, you are saying that someone FAKED this brochure, as a sort of 4/1/59 joke?" Of course not! The car was built in JUNE! Seriously, let's start dealing with reality. This would not be the first time someone has tried to create a silk purse out of a sow's ear! There are countless cars out there that have been "created" with the sole purpose to reap piles of cash.

"Then, there's the staples and the apparent aging of the brochure." We have no idea when the brochure was done. The car was built in 1959 and the fancy engine pieces "removed" a couple years later. Which leaves us a period of about 45 years in which this piece of work was created. Remember, the present owner found this brochure in the car.

"I noticed the mild typos, too, but I also noticed the precise typewriter font and style of the Corporate language
that I (we've-) all seen many times before." Guess you never used an IBM Slectric. As for the "Corporate language", anyone can duplicate it. All you need to do is read a few and copy it. You just need to know how to spell, know English grammar, and be consistent in your presentation. This little tome fails on all three counts.

As for the build records, you would be surprised at how many have no idea they exist. And there have been an number of instances where owners of cars with strange (unique?) options or colour schemes state Chrysler Historical has build records for almost all the cars built that year - except for "his" car.

Every hear of Paul Garlick? Remember a turquoise 1961 Dodge Polara with a Plymouth nose? Remember his claim that the car was built in Windsor, Ontario and shipped to Mexico? And that was with the serial number, in plain view on the car, showing the car was built in Detroit. No build record needed. It was there right on the car. Always wondered who bought the car and if they have ever discovered its true origins.

The "brochure", quite bluntly, is an amateur production. Given the spelling, grammar, blank pages, etc. it is anything but a creation of the Chrysler Corporation.

There are many people out there who would stoop to anything, do anything, if they felt they could decimate a person's bank account in exchange for a "unique" one-of or two-of automobile. There have been many instances on this forum over the years of stories where people were separated from their cash for vehicles that, in some cases, were next to worthless.

Never underestimate the craftiness of the seller, nor ignorance of the buyer.

"Never-say-never"? Ah yes. Believe that and you will get burned and your bank account will be lightened every time. Anything that is out of the norm, demand documentation. Demand proof it really was put on the car at the factory. "Never-say-never"? NEVER! ALWAYS say "Never" and tell them you are from Mizzuruh - Show Me!
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mogge65
Posted 2010-04-14 6:10 PM (#218567 - in reply to #213873)
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RamPhoenix
Posted 2021-08-07 11:22 PM (#614086 - in reply to #218567)
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I know this thread is more than 10 years old, but I am wondering what happened to the 1959 New Yorker convertible in the pictures. Has it been restored? Is it in a barn somewhere? Is it still rusting away in the junkyard?

This is the first time I ever read about a New Yorker-E, and although I am skeptical, Chrysler did some crazy things in the 50’s and 60’s. As the owner of a 1959 Windsor convertible, I really would like to find out more about the proposed 1959 Windsor-X. Does anybody have any documentation that Chrysler was actually considering production of a Windsor-X model, or is this just an urban legend?
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Posted 2021-08-08 8:09 AM (#614090 - in reply to #213873)
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In addition to the data tag options:

D2 = White Convertible Top Color
H2 = Accessory Group 312 that includes:

Group 311:
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Radio Music Master
Left Outside Remote Control Mirror
Padded Steering Wheel
Undercoating

Accessory Package A:
Door Guards
Vanity Mirror
Rear License Plate Frame

Plus:
Power Swivel Seat
Auto Pilot

N6 = Solex Tinted Glass with Shaded Windshield

The correct trim code 331 is a Blue Vinyl and Blue Babylon Jacquard;
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BrianD
Posted 2021-08-11 6:50 PM (#614165 - in reply to #614090)
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Here is the thread about the car back then. Yes I still have the New Yorker. Life has gotten in the way. for the past 10 years and I have collected all the parts except the top frame. I did start some body work on it about 9 years ago but didn't get to far. Too busy building cars for customers. . I have work orders from a shop in Santa Monica detailing work done to the car also that matched what I found under the paint which really makes me wonder even more about the history of it. Mechanically, the chassis was missing when I found it, so I cannot verify any of the work orders, but body damage I can. Unless someone had X-ray vision, I do believe it was there at some point. I don't think this is the car in the brochure, but the brochure and the work orders and how I received them is a story in and of itself.

http://forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=31599&post...

I will try to upload more pictures soon. I have to scan them all. I got this car in 1991 so all pictures are on film.
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RamPhoenix
Posted 2021-08-13 3:29 PM (#614192 - in reply to #614165)
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Thanks for bringing us up to date on the 1959 New Yorker convertible. The world needs as many 1959 Chrysler convertibles as possible, so I’m happy that you still have yours and are still planning to get it back on the road some day. Please keep us all posted on your progress, and pictures would be appreciated.
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mogge65
Posted 2021-09-27 6:06 AM (#615381 - in reply to #614165)
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Nice to see you still got the car Brian
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