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firedome
Posted 2013-01-28 11:38 AM (#357185 - in reply to #222640)
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Ya, I'm in the same boat, no $$$ for an emblem right now, I have to concentrate on getting the sheet metal it'll need, like a rear 1/4 on the passenger side, it's the only really bad spot on the car, and nobody reproduces that part! so the "jewelry" will have to wait! But there is a 1 1/2 year lag time, so we have time to save!! He said call in August (2013) to reserve an emblem for Fall 2014... start saving!
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d500neil
Posted 2013-01-30 1:04 AM (#357431 - in reply to #222640)
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Nother one......


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firedome
Posted 2013-01-30 8:57 AM (#357445 - in reply to #222640)
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Thanks for the pics Neil... boy, a nice resto on that Windsor, but you'd have to be nuts to put 35k into a sedan, and then go and sell it. Be a different story if intended to be kept forever...
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58Windsor
Posted 2013-01-30 11:38 AM (#357466 - in reply to #222640)
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Actually, I wonder if the one on the HAMB isn't the same one as posted on page four. Looks to include the same pic of the dash, both are missing the grille emblem, and check the fit of the rear bumper to the taillight filler, driver side in particular. Someone is going to get themselves a really nice Windsor! If I didn't have mine I know I'd be thinking about it. As they've shown, you're not going to build it for that price.
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Posted 2013-01-30 12:31 PM (#357473 - in reply to #222640)
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58Windsor
Posted 2013-01-30 4:06 PM (#357497 - in reply to #222640)
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Round Three! LOL
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firedome
Posted 2013-01-31 3:42 PM (#357624 - in reply to #222640)
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Truly nutty to spend 35K on a sedan... if they wanted to lose big $ they should have just taken up farming!!
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Posted 2013-02-03 12:16 PM (#358032 - in reply to #222640)
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Hi d500niel and imopar380 !

Thanks for the pictures of the "Dartline".

I think it might be the same as the one 58Windsor refers to,
but it is nice to know that you think abouth us,
when you see something that might bee of interrest to this thread.

Torben
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miquelonbrad
Posted 2013-02-03 12:36 PM (#358035 - in reply to #357624)
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firedome - 2013-01-31 1:42 PM

Truly nutty to spend 35K on a sedan... if they wanted to lose big $ they should have just taken up farming!!


HAHAHAHAA!! We did that for years!! Now I pour the money into cars instead!
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58Windsor
Posted 2013-02-04 1:10 AM (#358148 - in reply to #222640)
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So they spent more on it than it's generally considered worth. "Value" can -and should- be measured by a lot things outside of money. I'd spend that on mine without a second thought about it. Sentimental value on mine has a couple more zeros on that number easy. Maybe that car brought back good memories of a happy time for the owner and then circumstances suddenly changed forcing a sale. Maybe they just love the style and are fortunate to have enough money to not have to care about a return on investment. I don't know the story behind it, but just because it "isn't worth $35k" doesn't mean it wasn't worth the price in happiness to the seller. If you're in this hobby strictly for the return on investment, you need a different hobby.
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firedome
Posted 2013-02-04 10:32 AM (#358186 - in reply to #358148)
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Chill.. if you read my reply on another thread I said if they did it to keep it (ie sentimental reasons) that's another story... anyone can see from what I'm putting into my own '58 Windsor 4 door that I'm sure not into it for investment... just don't tell my wife! LOL
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58Windsor
Posted 2013-02-09 12:53 PM (#359202 - in reply to #222640)
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come off pissy. Just wanted to make the point about 'value'. The lousy day I'd been having carried into my tone more than I'd realized. No offense meant to anyone.
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firedome
Posted 2013-02-09 5:08 PM (#359246 - in reply to #222640)
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No prob... let's face it we're all nuts over FLs and when it comes to these cars we get passionate... that's why we're here!
I hate to think how much I've lost in this hobby over 40 years... and I'd do it all over in a heartbeat.
But again, don't tell my wife! ;-)

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58WindsorDartline
Posted 2013-02-15 7:02 PM (#360192 - in reply to #222640)
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You are right firedome !

We are all nuts, we have all spent to much money on these cars, and no,
most of the time we dont regret it, the only thing I regret is thay I couldn't keep them all.

I can't spent all the money I want on these cars eather, but because of bad economi,
not because of my wife, she love's the cars to.

Torben
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CustomRoyal
Posted 2013-02-24 1:15 PM (#361608 - in reply to #360192)
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/221193816409?item=221193816409&viewitem=&vx...

Not a bad deal...
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firedome
Posted 2013-02-24 2:46 PM (#361631 - in reply to #222640)
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WOW!! And NOS no less! Those are some rare pieces, so rare that a Dartline fan is likely to never see their like again, brand new.
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miquelonbrad
Posted 2013-02-24 6:17 PM (#361679 - in reply to #222640)
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Does anyone know if the "Dartline" or Spring Special models were produced and sold in Canada too? I've never seen one here...
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Posted 2013-02-26 2:29 AM (#361925 - in reply to #222640)
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Hi miguelonbrad !

There might have been a few sold in Canada, but I'm pretty sure that non was build there,
there was never build that many at all.

Abouth the NOS Dartline inserts, dam I would love to have those.

Torben
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firedome
Posted 2013-03-18 4:25 PM (#365293 - in reply to #361925)
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Hey '58 guys! I got the grille emblem from George Laurie less than 2 weeks from ordering it, and he has them in stock for $172 delivered! EmbleMacig wants $200 + ship and a 1 year or more wait!! My pic doesn't do it justice, it is PERFECT. This has to be the hardest part to find, I have never seen an original one in a junkyard and rarely on a car either, and even then in poor condition!! Get one while you CAN!



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mogge65
Posted 2013-04-04 6:34 PM (#368072 - in reply to #222640)
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58WindsorDartline
Posted 2013-04-11 4:19 AM (#368979 - in reply to #222640)
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Hi Morgan !

Thanks for the pictures and ad for the "Dartline" in North Dakota,
can it be the same that 58Windsor ( Greg) have seen on one of hes trips ?
are you going to look at it Greg ?

Torben
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Posted 2013-04-11 5:25 AM (#368982 - in reply to #222640)
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I Sit here and think.

If i had some money, I would start to buy up parts and partcars, for our Windsor / Dartline's,
and if somebody had the space to house them, then make a parts club, where if the members need'ed anything,
they just ask if we had it in stock, then either swap in some new parts or buy it from the club bank.

That way we could help each other get more Windsor / Dartline's on the road again, and we did not always had to
se all the good parts and partcars slip away, and even so if one part was spoken for by an other member,
there would always bee other parts to put in skock, so when the next need'ed something we might have it.

I'm just dreaming, one of the problems for me, is that if I will buy a partscar, it will cost a fortune to ship it here,
and if it is like this 4 dr. sedan, there is only a limited amount of parts that I can use, bacause my car is a 2 dr.,
some of these things could be avoid'ed, if it was done in a club.
Also parts might still be around or replaced in a clubcollection, when I need'ed them or could affort them, because
we where more people to collect them.

Torben, "Dreaming / Thinking out loud"
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firedome
Posted 2013-04-11 5:37 PM (#369094 - in reply to #222640)
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'58 Chryslers of any kind are getting much harder to find now. Every time I look at mine I feel lucky to have her! Someday she will ride the roads again. Meantime we do what we can.

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Posted 2013-04-11 7:45 PM (#369119 - in reply to #222640)
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There are good part´s out there you just have to keep lookin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&vxp=mtr&item=22119780...

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58WindsorDartline
Posted 2013-04-11 7:52 PM (#369122 - in reply to #222640)
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That's what I ment, it's geting harder to find the parts, so when there is something for sale,
it would be nice if it was some of us, who got our hands on it, so we could help each other later,
am i right ?

I don't have the perfekt solution, but maby my idea of a "parts club" isn't to bad.

Torben
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Posted 2013-04-12 10:37 PM (#369366 - in reply to #368979)
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58WindsorDartline - 2013-04-11 3:19 AM Hi Morgan ! Thanks for the pictures and ad for the "Dartline" in North Dakota, can it be the same that 58Windsor ( Greg) have seen on one of hes trips ? are you going to look at it Greg ? Torben

I've seen the listing for the car before and it does have me a little scared that it could be one of the two I'm aware of yet.  Depending on how much was taken off after pick up...   maybe.  I'm hoping to get out past that one again soon.

I'm setting pretty well between my car and my 2 parts cars.  This one doesn't offer me enough beyond what I already have to justify that price for me.

I'm willing to go do an in-person inspection and take detailed pictures for anyone who is interested.  We should be well into spring already, but they're talking a new foot of snow possibly over this weekend.  It may be a while before we'd be able to get a good look at her.

I know who the seller is, although we've never met.  He has an amazing collection as you can see by his website.  Earlier in our thread I mentioned seeing another '58 Windsor in town.  It was/is his. 

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Posted 2013-04-28 4:47 PM (#372450 - in reply to #222640)
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Hi Greg !

Sorry for the late return, do you say that it might be one of the cars,
that you hoped to get your hands on as a parts car.

If you go there I will look forward to hear what you find out.

Torben
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Posted 2013-05-24 6:05 AM (#376864 - in reply to #222640)
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Hi Greg !

Have you been out looking at the Dartline, if so lets se some pictures, if you took some.

Torben
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Posted 2013-05-24 2:21 PM (#376925 - in reply to #376864)
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Firedome,

Do you know if the emblem you bought is the same emblem that is used on the rear license frame of the '57 Chrysler?
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firedome
Posted 2013-05-24 2:26 PM (#376927 - in reply to #222640)
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Not sure, but I have a feeling that the '58 grille emblem is bigger... it's about 1 1/8 wide by 1 5/16 tall.
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58WindsorDartline
Posted 2013-05-25 1:26 PM (#377088 - in reply to #222640)
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Hi !

You are right Greg, the grill emblem is bigger than the the one on the licens frame.

Have you been out looking at the parts car that's for sale, Greg ?

Torben

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Posted 2013-06-14 8:32 PM (#380979 - in reply to #222640)
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Hi fellow FL lovers !

What is happening out there in "Windsor land", has ennyone found or seen somthing good
or maby some off you have attendet something and has taken photo's, so share please.

I know this is not the right place for this, but it looks like nobody reads the Vendor section.

Is there anyone here that knows, if this web. company is ok to deal with, "Classic car autoparts,
in Grand Rapids", i'm trying to find a fuel tank to my sons 1964 Dodge, they have it and the price
is good,but is the company
any good ???

Torben
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ttotired
Posted 2013-06-14 11:03 PM (#380993 - in reply to #222640)
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I have spoken to them (via email), but not bought from them directly.

No problem with the comunication, but I was just checking on freight prices.

I got a tank for my dodge in Australia, but I think its made from the same people, good tank.

I never said that on your vendor thread as I never bought from them

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Posted 2013-06-15 4:55 PM (#381113 - in reply to #222640)
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Hi Mick !

Thanks for your responce, the reason that I ask is that there is so many svindler's on the internet,
so I would just like to hear that peoble knows of the dealer, before I place an order.

Torben
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Posted 2013-07-02 1:09 PM (#383945 - in reply to #376864)
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58WindsorDartline - 2013-05-24 5:05 AM Hi Greg ! Have you been out looking at the Dartline, if so lets se some pictures, if you took some. Torben

 

I have not.  I wasn't intending to go for myself.  If someone wants it, I can try to go out and take additional pictures or do an independent review of it's condition, but for myself, I can't justify the cost to my personal needs.

I haven't had a chance to check on my other lead either.  It seems every time I have an opportunity, I'm running just enough behind schedule and it's just far enough out of my way that I have to leave it for another trip.

I have another opportunity coming up again soon...   maybe this trip!  I won't be heartbroken if it turns out to be the same one.  My primary interest in trying to pick up this other lead was simply to keep it out of the hands of a crusher or standard-issue junkyard.  If it's at Hernando's, that concern is been met.

 

On the good news side of things, I have the 'new' rear axle housing in place in my '58, new bearings pressed onto the axles, and all the bits & parts pieces of the brakes ready to assemble.  Next opportunity in the garage I can work towards assembly.  That may be weeks out, but it feels like progress at least.

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Posted 2013-07-02 3:33 PM (#383978 - in reply to #383945)
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Just for future reference, once the Evilpay takes down the auction site on those side trim pieces, above, they
sold for a VERY reasonable price of $135.00 .



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Posted 2013-07-08 4:21 AM (#384800 - in reply to #222640)
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Hi d500neil !

That is a very reasonable price, I'm sad that I didt'n have the money for it right now,
but at least we know that it went to a fellow Dartline owner, noboddy else can use them, right !!

Torben
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Posted 2013-07-08 12:52 PM (#384834 - in reply to #384800)
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Those Dartline trim pieces are still available if anyone needs them. I doubt you will find another NOS set.
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Posted 2013-07-08 4:05 PM (#384855 - in reply to #222640)
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Ok, then I did not understand it right, I belived that they were sold at $135.

Dam if I only had the money !

Torben
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firedome
Posted 2013-07-10 2:58 PM (#385143 - in reply to #222640)
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Another Dartline sighting??

http://westslope.craigslist.org/cto/3887713461.html
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Posted 2013-07-11 12:33 PM (#385315 - in reply to #222640)
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Hi firedome !

Great spotting, I don't belive we have seen this before, what state is the ad from ?

Torben
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firedome
Posted 2013-07-18 10:03 AM (#386372 - in reply to #222640)
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Torben, the Craigslist ad is from Grand Junction Colorado, so it's probably a very solid Western car if it is originally from there. It's complete and in cool Copper color, the chrome looks decent, a very good buy for the price I'd say! The link is still active... someone save this car!!

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Posted 2013-07-18 6:46 PM (#386454 - in reply to #222640)
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That car is only 1000 bucks

Wish I could find these cars around here for that cheap

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Posted 2013-07-23 1:22 PM (#387227 - in reply to #222640)
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Somebody go get it, it can't be me: "WILL NOT DEAL WITH ANYONE IN THE DAKOTA'S NORTH OR SOUTH." Wonder what got him so wound up to disallow two whole states?
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Posted 2013-07-23 2:58 PM (#387239 - in reply to #387227)
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...Probably(??) because the Dakotans will turn it and/or part it out, and the owner would like to see the car get restored?

A lot of Northeastern-World types have visited the Dakotas to buy vehicles or to chop off their rear ends,
and this seller may not like the idea that someone, nearby, could make a good profit on his $1K sales price on the car.




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Posted 2013-07-26 12:09 PM (#387832 - in reply to #222640)
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And someone from Montana or Nebraska or etc couldn't do it too? I'm not in the market anyway; no affect on me other than being insulted. hahaha
On the good news side of things, I was able to verify one of the two I'm aware of is still there. Time to give him a call back to see if he's ready to let go of it yet.
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Posted 2013-07-26 4:09 PM (#387875 - in reply to #387832)
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Dakotans are known offenders in all sorts of evildoings. You just can't trust 'em !
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Posted 2013-08-05 2:20 PM (#389704 - in reply to #387875)
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I know.  Why, just this weekend I fed the dogs an hour late, left my socks on the floor next to the laundry basket when I missed my throw, and didn't call my Mom to check in on her.   I'm a wicked, wicked person... 

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Posted 2013-08-05 5:08 PM (#389735 - in reply to #361679)
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miquelonbrad - 2013-02-24 6:17 PM

Does anyone know if the "Dartline" or Spring Special models were produced and sold in Canada too? I've never seen one here...


No Dartline models were built or sold in Canada. Remember the US-built 1958 Chrysler Windsor used the Chrysler (not Dodge) body mated to the Dodge chassis, Dodge sedan front doors and modified Dodge front end clip. The Canadian-built 1958 (and 1957) Windsor was a Saratoga with Windsor nameplates.

For the various "Spring Specials", Chrysler of Canada built the 1958 Plaze / Crusader version, the 1958 Custom Royal version but not the 1959 Dodge Coronet as Coronets were not built in Canada.

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firedome
Posted 2013-08-06 3:52 PM (#389948 - in reply to #222640)
Subject: Re: 1958 Chrysler Windsor "Dartline"



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How did the '58 Winsdor Chrysler body differ from the Dodge body? Other than the obviously different exterior sheet metal that is.

Did the 4 dr hardtop also use Dodge front doors?

Edited by firedome 2013-08-06 3:54 PM
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