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Posted 2013-05-14 1:06 PM (#375177 - in reply to #375144)
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I'm glad to see you hired a younger "Foward Looker" as we all are here for just a short time and this trade needs to be passed on. Here is an old saying: Doctor, I think we have a pulse. Good work Big John!!!

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Posted 2013-05-14 1:56 PM (#375183 - in reply to #375121)
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MOPAR-TO-YA - 2013-05-13 10:46 PM

John, by any chance, have you kept track of how many spools of welding wire you have used on this project?.........................MO

After working on this for so long, as well as other welding projects inbetween, I have no idea how much wire I have used. It would have been interesting to know, though.

---John

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Posted 2013-05-14 1:57 PM (#375184 - in reply to #375144)
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hemidenis - 2013-05-14 5:09 AM

Amazing job John, great craftsmanship I love to see this car getting back to life.

Thanks, Denis, I'm watching your projects come to life as well!!

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Posted 2013-05-14 2:08 PM (#375189 - in reply to #375177)
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oldwood - 2013-05-14 10:06 AM

I'm glad to see you hired a younger "Foward Looker" as we all are here for just a short time and this trade needs to be passed on. Here is an old saying: Doctor, I think we have a pulse. Good work Big John!!!

I try to get some of the younger generation to enjoy these cars, whether it be going to car shows, poker runs, etc. I totally support the younger folks entering the hobby, it would be nice to see more, rather than the gaming generation that we see quite often.

---John

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Posted 2013-05-17 1:00 PM (#375702 - in reply to #226386)
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Starting the reassembly of the chassis-
I saved the original hardware and had it zinc plated, and I replaced all the ball joints, bushings, etc, and painted the components.

---John

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Posted 2013-05-17 6:38 PM (#375760 - in reply to #375702)
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Are those 12" brakes on the front ? Unless I'm mistaken, 57-9 Plymouths had lug bolts that went thru the wheel and screwed into the drums.

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Posted 2013-05-17 8:23 PM (#375773 - in reply to #375760)
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ronbo97 - 2013-05-17 3:38 PM

Are those 12" brakes on the front ? Unless I'm mistaken, 57-9 Plymouths had lug bolts that went thru the wheel and screwed into the drums.

Ron

I'll have to call you eagle eyes, Ron!

The front and rear brakes were updated years ago, and fitted with later drum brakes. The car that had these drove and stopped well, so I figured I would stick with them, as long as they function well.

---John

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Posted 2013-05-20 12:20 PM (#376150 - in reply to #226386)
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WOW!!!
John, I am always amazed with your work!
They say that "slow and steady wins the race", seems about right to me!
Hopefully she'll be done next year when I am able to come visit.

big m

Posted 2013-05-21 12:35 PM (#376320 - in reply to #376150)
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phurious - 2013-05-20 9:20 AM

WOW!!!
John, I am always amazed with your work!
They say that "slow and steady wins the race", seems about right to me!
Hopefully she'll be done next year when I am able to come visit.

Thanks, Ron!!!

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Posted 2013-05-21 5:14 PM (#376368 - in reply to #376320)
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Awsome work John!

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Posted 2013-05-22 3:19 AM (#376443 - in reply to #226386)
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Its getting there . How much more you need to do ?

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Posted 2013-05-22 1:29 PM (#376525 - in reply to #376443)
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1961plymouthfury - 2013-05-22 12:19 AM

Its getting there . How much more you need to do ?

I still have a ways to go. I hope to have the chassis mostly completed this week, but then have body work to do on a customer's car. Once I get back to it, I will have to mount the body on the chassis, and begin block sanding. The top frame assembly will be a major job, as most of it is rusted junk.

---John

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Posted 2013-05-23 3:38 AM (#376653 - in reply to #226386)
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I read were the car sold when it was brand new. I told my father and he said the car 1st sold at Erie J Miller Chrysler Plymouth in Ithaca,NY. I know you have more to do and good luck with it.

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Posted 2013-05-24 1:02 PM (#376913 - in reply to #226386)
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Next was the rear axle. One of the threaded ends was buggered up, so I decided to replace it rather than risk problems with it. I removed the inner and outer seals, removed the chunk, and cleaned out the axle housing. I painted it gloss black, and installed the new seals. The third member was in good shape, and the backlash was within tolerance, so after painting it, I bolted it back to the housing. After reinstalling the axles, I positioned it beneath the frame.
I then hung the leaf springs, and mounted the third member. Each night, I have to cover the chassis up, as the bat guano can make quite a mess.

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Posted 2013-05-24 1:05 PM (#376914 - in reply to #226386)
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I ran all the brake and fuel lines, and assembled the rear backing plates and drums, then a set of wheels [temporary, of course].

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big m

Posted 2013-05-28 1:38 PM (#377536 - in reply to #226386)
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I got the engine and trans painted and mated together, and installed it in the chassis. Then on to painting and installing small components.

---John

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Posted 2013-05-28 8:14 PM (#377609 - in reply to #226386)
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Are you planning to paint the body and then lower it onto the frame ? I was kinda leery of that due to concern about paint scratches. What I ended up doing (with my Plymouth) was bolting the body to the frame, then installing the drive train after paint, but before the installation of the front clip. Going the same route with the convertible.

Ron

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Posted 2013-05-28 9:08 PM (#377618 - in reply to #226386)
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That chassis detail is PRIMO!

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Posted 2013-05-28 11:10 PM (#377637 - in reply to #377618)
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John, these build photos are Gold !!. Keep 'em coming .

Very helpful for me when I get to my body-off-frame stage on my '59 Dodge, gives me great inspiration and ideas.

Time consuming though it is, everyone benefits from your time taken to upload photos so thanks for the pics .

Brilliant !!!

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Posted 2013-05-29 5:57 AM (#377676 - in reply to #226386)
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Covering it at night is a good idea bat poop is very strong. Beautiful

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Posted 2013-05-29 8:29 AM (#377702 - in reply to #375183)
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Is bat poop a PPG product ? Where do you get it ?

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Posted 2013-05-29 8:38 AM (#377705 - in reply to #226386)
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I believe it is readilly available in Transilvania

They have big bats there that really suck

So the story goes anyway

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Posted 2013-05-29 12:32 PM (#377743 - in reply to #377609)
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ronbo97 - 2013-05-28 5:14 PM

Are you planning to paint the body and then lower it onto the frame ? I was kinda leery of that due to concern about paint scratches. What I ended up doing (with my Plymouth) was bolting the body to the frame, then installing the drive train after paint, but before the installation of the front clip. Going the same route with the convertible.

Ron

Ron,
my plan is to paint the underside of the body while on the rotisserie, then have some big boys help me set it onto the chassis. Finish body work and paint on the exterior will be later, after I fit all the body panels.

---John

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Posted 2013-05-29 12:33 PM (#377744 - in reply to #377618)
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d500neil - 2013-05-28 6:08 PM

That chassis detail is PRIMO!

Thanks, Neil, and I appreciate the info you had given me, it helped a lot!!

---John

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Posted 2013-05-29 12:34 PM (#377746 - in reply to #377637)
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VAN HELSING - 2013-05-28 8:10 PM

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John, these build photos are Gold !!. Keep 'em coming .

Very helpful for me when I get to my body-off-frame stage on my '59 Dodge, gives me great inspiration and ideas.

Time consuming though it is, everyone benefits from your time taken to upload photos so thanks for the pics .

Brilliant !!!

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Thanks for the good words!!

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Posted 2013-05-29 8:09 PM (#377830 - in reply to #377705)
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ttotired - 2013-05-29 11:38 PM

I believe it is readilly available in Transilvania

They have big bats there that really suck

So the story goes anyway

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Nup, Van Helsing got rid of the Transylvanian bats way back in 1888......... so the movie goes anyway !!! BOOM BOOM

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Posted 2013-05-30 1:07 PM (#377980 - in reply to #377702)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2013-05-29 5:29 AM

Is bat poop a PPG product ? Where do you get it ?

It's 'Guano spot putty' tested on '87 Daihatsus.

---John

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Posted 2013-05-30 5:54 PM (#378039 - in reply to #226386)
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uh oh big john , does the wifey know you're usin her fitted sheets as car covers ----------------------------------------------------------later

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Posted 2013-05-30 8:23 PM (#378078 - in reply to #378039)
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60 dart - 2013-05-30 2:54 PM

uh oh big john , does the wifey know you're usin her fitted sheets as car covers ----------------------------------------------------------later

LMAO, Chuck! I'd probably be in the doghouse if that was the case! A fellow I bought some cars from gave me a few sacks of household goods, and these were included.

---John

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Posted 2013-07-14 1:27 PM (#385776 - in reply to #378078)
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While finishing up the bodywork on another car, I spent a few days gathering hardware from other cars in the yard. These I will have zinc plated, nearly 400 pieces.

I cleaned the entire bunch in acid to remove any rust, then neutralized them with a baking soda solution. Any with undercoat or paint I had to wire wheel, as the plating would not work properly with foreign matter. Afterwards, I washed the entire lot in lacquer thinner to remove any oil or undercoat residue.
One container will be yellow zinc [gold] and the other will be clear[silver]

---John

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Posted 2013-07-29 1:08 PM (#388247 - in reply to #226386)
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Got the body mount parts and hardware back from A&A plating, everything came out nice!

---John

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Posted 2013-07-29 2:29 PM (#388256 - in reply to #388247)
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John -

So what's your secret to remembering where each bolt, nut, screw and fastener goes on the car ?

Ron

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Posted 2013-07-29 4:48 PM (#388269 - in reply to #226386)
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Posted 2013-07-29 4:54 PM (#388271 - in reply to #388256)
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ronbo97 - 2013-07-29 11:29 AM

John -

So what's your secret to remembering where each bolt, nut, screw and fastener goes on the car ?

Ron

Ron,
Even though I have taken an awful lot of these cars apart, often, I will have to go out back and check another car to see where something goes. I'd be a liar if I told you I knew where every one went to.

---John

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Posted 2013-07-29 7:48 PM (#388296 - in reply to #226386)
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Pictures, lots and lots of pictures is how I do it and I still get stumped on some things

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Posted 2013-07-29 11:41 PM (#388349 - in reply to #388247)
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big m - 2013-07-29 10:08 AM

Got the body mount parts and hardware back from A&A plating, everything came out nice!

---John

where are they and are they reasonable cost?
I am in Chico and am looking at getting a bumper plated or chromed-not sure but I think plated would be very cool.
(its a 1950 2 ton chevy truck front bumper) and yes-i do have mopar too... pair of 55 imperials and a 55 savoy and a 48 chry royal and sold our 49 ply bus coupe few years ago... got rid of our set of 36 plymouths too(kinda regret that one)

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Posted 2013-07-30 1:57 AM (#388363 - in reply to #388271)
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ronbo97 - 2013-07-29 11:29 AM

John -

So what's your secret to remembering where each bolt, nut, screw and fastener goes on the car ?

Ron

This past weekend a friend came and was looking at my current project. He said' "you have taken every nut and bolt off this car and are putting them all back on" . I never thought about it before but that kinda puts things in perspective. That is a LOT of skinned knuckles and blood letting!.........................MO

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Posted 2013-07-30 1:35 PM (#388425 - in reply to #388363)
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You told him it is part of your religious expression, right ?

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Posted 2013-07-31 12:15 PM (#388623 - in reply to #388349)
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big m - 2013-07-29 10:08 AM

Got the body mount parts and hardware back from A&A plating, everything came out nice!

---John

A&A is located in Sacramento, look up Alta plating on the web. They could probably give you an estimate over the phone.

Stop by next time you are in the area!

---John

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Posted 2013-09-24 7:16 PM (#399527 - in reply to #388623)
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I finally completed the Turnpike Cruiser job for a customer, now my spare time goes back to this.

I installed the exhaust system this last weekend, it was a chore to get everything placed without touching the torsion bars or the X-frame. Last item on the chassis for now will be fitting the trans cooling lines. Easy to route them without the body being in the way.

---John

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Posted 2013-09-25 2:00 AM (#399590 - in reply to #226386)
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Nice work John - I see some really tight, narrow passages there

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Posted 2013-09-25 3:17 PM (#399683 - in reply to #226386)
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Amazing John!! and is very interesting how you keep all the cast iron parts of cast iron color, I never thought of that, mine was so rusted that I never could figure if they were factory painted or not, you may can tell us better.

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wizard - 2013-09-24 11:00 PM

Nice work John - I see some really tight, narrow passages there

Thanks, Sven!

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hemidenis - 2013-09-25 12:17 PM

Amazing John!! and is very interesting how you keep all the cast iron parts of cast iron color, I never thought of that, mine was so rusted that I never could figure if they were factory painted or not, you may can tell us better.

I used a POR 15 product called Metal Mask on those parts. Neil Vedder was a big help here as he had lots of factory brochures, assembly line pics, and those of his personal car. I was also able to check some of the lower mileage parts cars in the yard here to verify what was and was not painted.

---John

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I have a feeling that the whole frame wasn't paint on my Imperial, I could find NO trace of paint in it, or the rear axle assy, except in those areas near to the engine, which would be visible with the hood opened.

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Posted 2013-10-18 1:00 PM (#404529 - in reply to #226386)
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I wanted to replace the rear filler panel, as it had been bent when the bumper was pushed in, also, both ends were twisted. I figured it would take a good eight hours to get the metal satisfactorily straight. I had another option, which was to remove it and replace it with the NOS one I had found at a local swap meet for $40. I had to set the rear of the body down from the rotisserie, as it was in the way of accessing the back of it. By Using this piece rather than repairing the original, I was able to save about six hours of work.

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Posted 2013-10-18 1:05 PM (#404531 - in reply to #226386)
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I had to use a carbide burr to remove the spot welds, as the angle would not allow drilling. After removing the bent panel, I cleaned and smoothed the body surface. Then I drilled holes in the panel for rosette welding later. Note the factory alignment [locator] holes in the panel, made for easy installation.