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FIN ME |
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Wow, John, you are one hard working and patient dude! You make it look easy...but I know it's NOT! | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | Thanks, Rosy!! Luckily, the weather held out for painting, I was concerned that it would either get windy, or cold, but was still with 80 degrees for the high. I reapplied seam sealer to all the necessary areas on the lower body, I didn't want to paint the bottom and then have seam sealer ooze out somewhere afterwards. Next was to paint the underside, in preparation of mounting the body back on its chassis for panel fitment. Came out pretty decent, after using a half gallon of single stage enamel. ---John ('59 SF convertible 002.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 003.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 004.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 006.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 008.JPG) Attachments ---------------- '59 SF convertible 002.JPG (126KB - 304 downloads) '59 SF convertible 003.JPG (124KB - 312 downloads) '59 SF convertible 004.JPG (125KB - 313 downloads) '59 SF convertible 006.JPG (126KB - 300 downloads) '59 SF convertible 008.JPG (124KB - 371 downloads) | ||
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13049 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | It's such a joy to see your progress after such a difficult project John - I read these posts with greatest interest. | ||
ttotired |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8443 Location: Perth Australia | Its good to finally put paint on instead of taking it off | ||
FIN ME |
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Oh, now that is pretty! Great progress! | ||
bbrasse1 |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 537 Location: Upstate NY | Looks great John! A lot of work there. | ||
oldwood |
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | Looking Gooooooood!!! Now what color is the car going to be? Please don't say R and W. | ||
ronbo97 |
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Expert Posts: 4042 Location: Connecticut | My vote would be Bittersweet (code ZZ). John's keeping that detail a secret, I guess. Ron | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | I suppose, if you start with THIS, you could paint it any dayumm color(s) you want, but, Rusty WAS a white car (right???) and he/she deserves to be "restored". What color (codes) were its interior and top? (RUSTY.jpg) Attachments ---------------- RUSTY.jpg (48KB - 309 downloads) | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | wizard - 2013-10-21 11:01 AM It's such a joy to see your progress after such a difficult project John - I read these posts with greatest interest. Thanks, Sven!! | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | d500neil - 2013-10-22 3:34 PM I suppose, if you start with THIS, you could paint it any dayumm color(s) you want, but, Rusty WAS a white car (right???) and he/she deserves to be "restored". What color (codes) were its interior and top? The original color was solid Tuxedo black, and the interior was red, with a white top. I will be going back to the same color and interior combos. The white on the car had been added sometime before 1965, when the car was crashed, and junked in the upstate New York yard where it languished all these years. ---John | ||
oldwood |
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | You know what they say,especially in CA, once ya go BLACK ya never go BACK. LOL All kidding aside, Black cars must be RAZOR straight and I'm sure this one will be. You know with black its easier to see the red. Thats the seats don't cha know. Get you mind out of the gutter. | ||
ToMopar |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1159 Location: D-70199 Heslach | doesn't matter for me what color. I've respect of such a big project. | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | oldwood - 2013-10-22 6:15 PM You know what they say,especially in CA, once ya go BLACK ya never go BACK. LOL All kidding aside, Black cars must be RAZOR straight and I'm sure this one will be. You know with black its easier to see the red. Thats the seats don't cha know. Get you mind out of the gutter. Dorsey, You're crazy, but I like it!! LOL! Someday we'll get to meet up. ---John | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | ToMopar - 2013-10-23 12:07 AM doesn't matter for me what color. I've respect of such a big project. Thanks, ToM!! | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | After sorting body mount hardware, I placed the pieces in the necessary spots. I had to look at some cars in the yard, as it was not fresh in my mind. I was hoping to have some friends over to assist with lifting the body onto the frame, but one had a sore back, and another did not show. After a bit of thought, I hooked up an engine hoist to the front, and used the back half of the rotisserie to support the rear. By then, Austin had gotten back from Yuba City, and we easily rolled the body over the chassis, and set it in place. Afterwards, I threaded all the body mount bolts, and tightened them up. Finally, I removed the braces from the doors and quarters. ---John ('59 SF convertible 001.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 002.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 003.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 004.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 006.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 007.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 008.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 009.JPG) Attachments ---------------- '59 SF convertible 001.JPG (126KB - 294 downloads) '59 SF convertible 002.JPG (126KB - 292 downloads) '59 SF convertible 003.JPG (126KB - 304 downloads) '59 SF convertible 004.JPG (126KB - 286 downloads) '59 SF convertible 006.JPG (127KB - 284 downloads) '59 SF convertible 007.JPG (125KB - 296 downloads) '59 SF convertible 008.JPG (126KB - 308 downloads) '59 SF convertible 009.JPG (126KB - 306 downloads) | ||
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Inactive by user's request Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | It's coming along nicely, John. But as you know, a car is original only once. So by restoring it, you are still ruining it...LOL!!!!! Seriously, your accomplishment is amazing. And no, you can't have your 440 back for this one. Tracie still talks about taking a family trip to Sacramento, so hopefully we'll be able to get together with you and M'Lisa then. K. | ||
oldwood |
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | I can just see you now driving down the CA coastline with dark sunglasses, cuban stogie,living the dream. I know what you mean when a helping hand is no where around. Close but NO cigar yet. Get back to work. | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | Kenny J. - 2013-10-29 9:45 AM It's coming along nicely, John. But as you know, a car is original only once. So by restoring it, you are still ruining it...LOL!!!!! Seriously, your accomplishment is amazing. And no, you can't have your 440 back for this one. Tracie still talks about taking a family trip to Sacramento, so hopefully we'll be able to get together with you and M'Lisa then. K. When you guys can make it, you know we'd love to see you!! ---John | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | oldwood - 2013-10-29 10:16 AM I can just see you now driving down the CA coastline with dark sunglasses, cuban stogie,living the dream. I know what you mean when a helping hand is no where around. Close but NO cigar yet. Get back to work. Thanks, Dorsey, it's actually starting to resemble an automobile finally. ---John | ||
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Expert Posts: 4042 Location: Connecticut | John - You 'wrote the book' on how to do this correctly. You should publish this thread in book form so future restorers can learn from you. One minor thing: I noticed you were using some rubber body mounts. Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think any rubber mounts were used on the convert. There may have been a thread on this a while ago, but I can't be sure. Ron | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | SUPER NICE WORK Look like a car first time at many year Thanks you show us how you built upp your Sport Fury | ||
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Account deactivated by owner's request Location: On this barrel | Looking good ... And Austin likes his Mickey's!! | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | ronbo97 - 2013-10-29 1:17 PM John - You 'wrote the book' on how to do this correctly. You should publish this thread in book form so future restorers can learn from you. One minor thing: I noticed you were using some rubber body mounts. Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think any rubber mounts were used on the convert. There may have been a thread on this a while ago, but I can't be sure. Ron Thanks Ron, and I'll have to check into the rubber mount pads. I did look under the '59 Firesweep convertible and it had them, but that car had been monkeyed with too. ---John | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | I think Ron have right no rubber between the body and frame I just looking at my Windsor no rubber just metal copper Edited by Windsor59 2013-10-29 5:28 PM | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Yes. They use 10 metal cups total. But trunk floor ones just in front of rear most may use something else. Haven't got to that. They look like it in my Plymouth. Nice work John. I can't wait till I get to that stage. Now has solid body like all FL verts should have! | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | I've got correspondence from Dodge to Carl Kiefaeker, in Re: his specially-ordered D501 hard top which was built onto a convertible frame. That letter states that that car had : "Solid Convertible Body Spacers" on it. Dunno what the 'solid' spacers are/were, but they were not "rubber" ones, apparently. | ||
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Expert Posts: 1324 Location: Hickory, NC | 56royaldodge - 2013-10-29 4:39 PM Looking good ... And Austin likes his Mickey's!! :laugh: Just gotta be careful not to get stung!!! | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | I checked beneath an untouched '58 convertible, and yes, indeed, all the mounts are solid. I've found that some FL cars used the same steel 'cups' at the very front mounts, so I'll have to see if I can gather enough of them. Thanks for everyone's input on this also. ---John | ||
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Expert Posts: 2633 Location: Minor Hill, TN | Its getting there. | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | It took about four hours of pulling body mounts, but I have finally gotten enough of the mount cups to replace the rubber mounts. after a thorough de-rusting, they are ready for installation. ('59 SF convertible 001.JPG) Attachments ---------------- '59 SF convertible 001.JPG (126KB - 281 downloads) | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | I stripped the two doors I had from a Fury, aside from several small dents and one poorly finished lead repair, they were pretty nice. After bumping and dinging the dents out, I sprayed metal etching primer on the bare steel. ('59 SF convertible 002.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 003.JPG) Attachments ---------------- '59 SF convertible 002.JPG (126KB - 293 downloads) '59 SF convertible 003.JPG (126KB - 287 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 2633 Location: Minor Hill, TN | Its getting there I hope to see it a car show in Alabama or Tennesee | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | I gathered up a good set of 4-door car hinges, these usually have less wear as the doors are lighter. Removed the paint, and primered them. Next, was to hang the doors, and dig out the fenders I would be using, along with a core support, to roughly assemble the front group. The trim lines of the parts I was using was different than the Sport Fury, so all trim holes needed to be welded, and new ones drilled. Glad I had done this, as I found several holes on the driver's side quarter were drilled incorrectly, and had to change them too. ('59 SF convertible 005.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 001.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 002.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 003.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 001.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 002.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 003.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 004.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 005.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 006.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 007.JPG) Attachments ---------------- '59 SF convertible 005.JPG (127KB - 300 downloads) '59 SF convertible 001.JPG (126KB - 304 downloads) '59 SF convertible 002.JPG (126KB - 296 downloads) '59 SF convertible 003.JPG (126KB - 277 downloads) '59 SF convertible 001.JPG (125KB - 288 downloads) '59 SF convertible 002.JPG (124KB - 272 downloads) '59 SF convertible 003.JPG (126KB - 283 downloads) '59 SF convertible 004.JPG (126KB - 297 downloads) '59 SF convertible 005.JPG (124KB - 298 downloads) '59 SF convertible 006.JPG (126KB - 266 downloads) '59 SF convertible 007.JPG (126KB - 297 downloads) | ||
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Location: Sweden | Great work, John. Looks like its getting somewhere! She will be astonishing having the color combination and the '59 chrome detailings in mind | ||
rockerarm |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 873 Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE | that is a LOT of work with amazing results. I know what it takes to resurect a car like that. Very impressive, You truly brought that car back from the dead. Will. | ||
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Expert Posts: 3155 Location: NY & VT | Wow, just WOW! John, what was the reason behind the solid body mounts on the convertibles? You'd think a lot of noise and vibration would be transmitted without the rubber cushion. Edited by firedome 2014-01-01 1:24 PM | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | firedome - 2014-01-01 10:23 AM Wow, just WOW! John, what was the reason behind the solid body mounts on the convertibles? You'd think a lot of noise and vibration would be transmitted without the rubber cushion. Roger, the only reason I can think of is to reduce the possibility of body flex, as the reinforced rockers, X-frame, and extra body mounts used in the converts make the assembly quite stout. Too much body flex would cause the top rack components to fatigue and the castings crack. ---John | ||
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Expert Posts: 4042 Location: Connecticut | Not to mention a ton of rattling as you drove over rough pavement or railroad tracks. Ron | ||
oldwood |
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | This car reminds me of the Johnny Cash song: One Piece At A Time!!! Don't worry I'm not going to start singing. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 108 Location: morkov denmark | wow, wish i had half your talent, looks great | ||
rockerarm |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 873 Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE |
I hope your not refering to Dorseys singing talent ........ | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | rockerarm - 2014-01-04 8:44 AM
I hope your not refering to Dorseys singing talent ........ Good one, Will!! LOL! | ||
oldwood |
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Expert Posts: 2905 Location: little rock, AR | You guy's are good!!! Santa is making his list for next year. I'm glad ya'll have 11 months to repent, so its not all coal and switches. LOL Will, can you remind me of the score of that game the other night??? | ||
rockerarm |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 873 Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE |
There was a game ........???? I don't watch games, I perfer sports. | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | I stripped the two front fenders of paint and primer, found a small rust hole and a spot where the rocker molding had rubbed through the metal that I then welded up. After bumping and dinging the dents out, I scraped peeling undercoat from the inside, and sandblasted the entire inside, as well as the headlight areas. Next was to spray the fenders, inside and out with etching primer, until the finish body work can be done. ('59 SF convertible 001.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 002.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 004.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 005.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 006.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 007.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 010.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 011.JPG) Attachments ---------------- '59 SF convertible 001.JPG (126KB - 275 downloads) '59 SF convertible 002.JPG (125KB - 297 downloads) '59 SF convertible 004.JPG (125KB - 294 downloads) '59 SF convertible 005.JPG (131KB - 268 downloads) '59 SF convertible 006.JPG (132KB - 304 downloads) '59 SF convertible 007.JPG (125KB - 298 downloads) '59 SF convertible 010.JPG (126KB - 296 downloads) '59 SF convertible 011.JPG (126KB - 297 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7807 Location: Williams California | Next, I dug out the rustfree deck lid I had saved for a number of year, it was the only one I had ever found that didn't have rust bubbles in the lower lip. It did have two coats of paint that did not want to come off easily. After removing the paint on the top, I decided to sandblast the bottom as there was surface rust along with peeling paint. The tar paper-like material on the bottom was disintegrating, so I removed it all with a scraper. ('59 SF convertible 003.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 004.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 016.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 017.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 018.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 019.JPG) ('59 SF convertible 020.JPG) Attachments ---------------- '59 SF convertible 003.JPG (125KB - 292 downloads) '59 SF convertible 004.JPG (125KB - 282 downloads) '59 SF convertible 016.JPG (122KB - 308 downloads) '59 SF convertible 017.JPG (125KB - 313 downloads) '59 SF convertible 018.JPG (126KB - 277 downloads) '59 SF convertible 019.JPG (126KB - 296 downloads) '59 SF convertible 020.JPG (126KB - 290 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8443 Location: Perth Australia | Did you manage to get all that paper stuff out from under the webbing John Had a fun time with that stuff when I got it out of my dodge trunk lid | ||
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Expert Posts: 4042 Location: Connecticut | John - Do you plan to remove the outer skin so that the sound deadening material can be replaced ? I would think that it should be in place to keep the trunk lid from sounding tinny when closed. I'm facing the same issue with my 59 Dodge. Ron | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | It appears what you'd have to do is separate the two trunk halves, and then paint them separately. Then, the deadener sheet gets installed and the halves are crimped together. And, additional finish color is sprayed onto the crimped edges, avoiding the deadener panels. I spent two hours masking off the deadener panels and the entire rear of the car, so that only the underside could get repainted....taking about 5 minutes' time. Do you have another 59 PLY decklid, with good deadener panel(s) in it? Edited by d500neil 2014-01-21 7:49 PM | ||
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