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FIN ME
Posted 2013-10-20 4:57 PM (#404946 - in reply to #226386)
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Wow, John, you are one hard working and patient dude!

You make it look easy...but I know it's NOT!



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Posted 2013-10-21 1:56 PM (#405113 - in reply to #226386)
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Thanks, Rosy!!

Luckily, the weather held out for painting, I was concerned that it would either get windy, or cold, but was still with 80 degrees for the high. I reapplied seam sealer to all the necessary areas on the lower body, I didn't want to paint the bottom and then have seam sealer ooze out somewhere afterwards. Next was to paint the underside, in preparation of mounting the body back on its chassis for panel fitment. Came out pretty decent, after using a half gallon of single stage enamel.

---John



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Posted 2013-10-21 2:01 PM (#405114 - in reply to #226386)
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It's such a joy to see your progress after such a difficult project John - I read these posts with greatest interest.
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Posted 2013-10-21 7:06 PM (#405161 - in reply to #226386)
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Its good to finally put paint on instead of taking it off

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Posted 2013-10-22 11:36 AM (#405262 - in reply to #226386)
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Oh, now that is pretty!

Great progress!


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Posted 2013-10-22 4:05 PM (#405320 - in reply to #226386)
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Looks great John! A lot of work there.
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Posted 2013-10-22 4:22 PM (#405322 - in reply to #405320)
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Looking Gooooooood!!! Now what color is the car going to be? Please don't say R and W.
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Posted 2013-10-22 4:37 PM (#405324 - in reply to #405322)
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My vote would be Bittersweet (code ZZ). John's keeping that detail a secret, I guess.

Ron

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Posted 2013-10-22 6:34 PM (#405346 - in reply to #226386)
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I suppose, if you start with THIS, you could paint it any dayumm color(s) you want,
but, Rusty WAS a white car (right???) and he/she deserves to be "restored".

What color (codes) were its interior and top?







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Posted 2013-10-22 7:16 PM (#405353 - in reply to #405114)
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wizard - 2013-10-21 11:01 AM

It's such a joy to see your progress after such a difficult project John - I read these posts with greatest interest.


Thanks, Sven!!
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Posted 2013-10-22 7:20 PM (#405354 - in reply to #405346)
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I suppose, if you start with THIS, you could paint it any dayumm color(s) you want,
but, Rusty WAS a white car (right???) and he/she deserves to be "restored".

What color (codes) were its interior and top?




The original color was solid Tuxedo black, and the interior was red, with a white top. I will be going back to the same color and interior combos. The white on the car had been added sometime before 1965, when the car was crashed, and junked in the upstate New York yard where it languished all these years.

---John
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Posted 2013-10-22 9:15 PM (#405372 - in reply to #405354)
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You know what they say,especially in CA, once ya go BLACK ya never go BACK. LOL All kidding aside, Black cars must be RAZOR straight and I'm sure this one will be. You know with black its easier to see the red. Thats the seats don't cha know. Get you mind out of the gutter.
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Posted 2013-10-23 3:07 AM (#405436 - in reply to #226386)
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doesn't matter for me what color. I've respect of such a big project.
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Posted 2013-10-24 8:02 PM (#405823 - in reply to #405372)
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oldwood - 2013-10-22 6:15 PM

You know what they say,especially in CA, once ya go BLACK ya never go BACK. LOL All kidding aside, Black cars must be RAZOR straight and I'm sure this one will be. You know with black its easier to see the red. Thats the seats don't cha know. Get you mind out of the gutter.


Dorsey, You're crazy, but I like it!! LOL!

Someday we'll get to meet up.

---John
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Posted 2013-10-24 8:02 PM (#405824 - in reply to #405436)
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ToMopar - 2013-10-23 12:07 AM

doesn't matter for me what color. I've respect of such a big project.


Thanks, ToM!!
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Posted 2013-10-29 12:16 PM (#406984 - in reply to #226386)
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After sorting body mount hardware, I placed the pieces in the necessary spots. I had to look at some cars in the yard, as it was not fresh in my mind. I was hoping to have some friends over to assist with lifting the body onto the frame, but one had a sore back, and another did not show. After a bit of thought, I hooked up an engine hoist to the front, and used the back half of the rotisserie to support the rear. By then, Austin had gotten back from Yuba City, and we easily rolled the body over the chassis, and set it in place.

Afterwards, I threaded all the body mount bolts, and tightened them up. Finally, I removed the braces from the doors and quarters.

---John



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Posted 2013-10-29 12:45 PM (#406994 - in reply to #406984)
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It's coming along nicely, John.

But as you know, a car is original only once. So by restoring it, you are still ruining it...LOL!!!!!

Seriously, your accomplishment is amazing. And no, you can't have your 440 back for this one.

Tracie still talks about taking a family trip to Sacramento, so hopefully we'll be able to get together with you and M'Lisa then.

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Posted 2013-10-29 1:16 PM (#407002 - in reply to #406994)
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I can just see you now driving down the CA coastline with dark sunglasses, cuban stogie,living the dream. I know what you mean when a helping hand is no where around. Close but NO cigar yet. Get back to work.
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Posted 2013-10-29 2:44 PM (#407025 - in reply to #406994)
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Kenny J. - 2013-10-29 9:45 AM

It's coming along nicely, John.

But as you know, a car is original only once. So by restoring it, you are still ruining it...LOL!!!!!

Seriously, your accomplishment is amazing. And no, you can't have your 440 back for this one.

Tracie still talks about taking a family trip to Sacramento, so hopefully we'll be able to get together with you and M'Lisa then.

K.


When you guys can make it, you know we'd love to see you!!

---John
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Posted 2013-10-29 2:45 PM (#407026 - in reply to #407002)
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oldwood - 2013-10-29 10:16 AM

I can just see you now driving down the CA coastline with dark sunglasses, cuban stogie,living the dream. I know what you mean when a helping hand is no where around. Close but NO cigar yet. Get back to work.


Thanks, Dorsey, it's actually starting to resemble an automobile finally.

---John
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Posted 2013-10-29 4:17 PM (#407041 - in reply to #407026)
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John -

You 'wrote the book' on how to do this correctly. You should publish this thread in book form so future restorers can learn from you.

One minor thing: I noticed you were using some rubber body mounts. Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think any rubber mounts were used on the convert. There may have been a thread on this a while ago, but I can't be sure.

Ron

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Posted 2013-10-29 4:36 PM (#407042 - in reply to #407041)
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SUPER NICE WORK
Look like a car first time at many year
Thanks you show us how you built upp your Sport Fury
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Posted 2013-10-29 4:39 PM (#407043 - in reply to #226386)
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Looking good ... And Austin likes his Mickey's!!
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Posted 2013-10-29 5:12 PM (#407046 - in reply to #407041)
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ronbo97 - 2013-10-29 1:17 PM

John -

You 'wrote the book' on how to do this correctly. You should publish this thread in book form so future restorers can learn from you.

One minor thing: I noticed you were using some rubber body mounts. Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think any rubber mounts were used on the convert. There may have been a thread on this a while ago, but I can't be sure.

Ron



Thanks Ron, and I'll have to check into the rubber mount pads. I did look under the '59 Firesweep convertible and it had them, but that car had been monkeyed with too.

---John
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Posted 2013-10-29 5:27 PM (#407052 - in reply to #407046)
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I think Ron have right no rubber between the body and frame I just looking at my Windsor no rubber just metal copper

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Posted 2013-10-29 5:44 PM (#407057 - in reply to #407052)
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Yes. They use 10 metal cups total. But trunk floor ones just in front of rear most may use something else. Haven't got to that. They look like it in my Plymouth.

Nice work John. I can't wait till I get to that stage. Now has solid body like all FL verts should have!
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Posted 2013-10-29 6:23 PM (#407063 - in reply to #407057)
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I've got correspondence from Dodge to Carl Kiefaeker, in Re: his specially-ordered D501 hard top which was built onto
a convertible frame.

That letter states that that car had : "Solid Convertible Body Spacers" on it.

Dunno what the 'solid' spacers are/were, but they were not "rubber" ones, apparently.



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Posted 2013-10-30 1:33 AM (#407154 - in reply to #407043)
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56royaldodge - 2013-10-29 4:39 PM

Looking good ... And Austin likes his Mickey's!! :laugh:


Just gotta be careful not to get stung!!!
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Posted 2013-10-30 8:03 PM (#407331 - in reply to #226386)
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I checked beneath an untouched '58 convertible, and yes, indeed, all the mounts are solid. I've found that some FL cars used the same steel 'cups' at the very front mounts, so I'll have to see if I can gather enough of them.

Thanks for everyone's input on this also.

---John
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Posted 2013-11-01 2:47 AM (#407743 - in reply to #226386)
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Posted 2013-11-14 1:27 PM (#410675 - in reply to #226386)
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It took about four hours of pulling body mounts, but I have finally gotten enough of the mount cups to replace the rubber mounts. after a thorough de-rusting, they are ready for installation.



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Posted 2013-11-14 1:35 PM (#410679 - in reply to #226386)
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I stripped the two doors I had from a Fury, aside from several small dents and one poorly finished lead repair, they were pretty nice. After bumping and dinging the dents out, I sprayed metal etching primer on the bare steel.



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Posted 2013-11-14 2:33 PM (#410693 - in reply to #226386)
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Its getting there I hope to see it a car show in Alabama or Tennesee
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Posted 2013-12-30 12:35 PM (#419276 - in reply to #226386)
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I gathered up a good set of 4-door car hinges, these usually have less wear as the doors are lighter. Removed the paint, and primered them. Next, was to hang the doors, and dig out the fenders I would be using, along with a core support, to roughly assemble the front group. The trim lines of the parts I was using was different than the Sport Fury, so all trim holes needed to be welded, and new ones drilled.

Glad I had done this, as I found several holes on the driver's side quarter were drilled incorrectly, and had to change them too.



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Posted 2013-12-31 5:18 PM (#419515 - in reply to #226386)
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Great work, John. Looks like its getting somewhere! She will be astonishing having the color combination and the '59 chrome detailings in mind
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Posted 2013-12-31 5:30 PM (#419516 - in reply to #419276)
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big m - QUOTE]

that is a LOT of work with amazing results. I know what it takes to resurect a car like that.

Very impressive, You truly brought that car back from the dead.

Will.

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Posted 2014-01-01 1:23 PM (#419646 - in reply to #226386)
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Wow, just WOW!
John, what was the reason behind the solid body mounts on the convertibles? You'd think a lot of noise and vibration would be transmitted without the rubber cushion.

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Posted 2014-01-02 12:21 PM (#419789 - in reply to #419646)
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firedome - 2014-01-01 10:23 AM

Wow, just WOW!
John, what was the reason behind the solid body mounts on the convertibles? You'd think a lot of noise and vibration would be transmitted without the rubber cushion.


Roger, the only reason I can think of is to reduce the possibility of body flex, as the reinforced rockers, X-frame, and extra body mounts used in the converts make the assembly quite stout. Too much body flex would cause the top rack components to fatigue and the castings crack.

---John
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Posted 2014-01-02 1:30 PM (#419813 - in reply to #419789)
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Not to mention a ton of rattling as you drove over rough pavement or railroad tracks.

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Posted 2014-01-02 2:00 PM (#419821 - in reply to #419813)
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This car reminds me of the Johnny Cash song: One Piece At A Time!!! Don't worry I'm not going to start singing.
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Posted 2014-01-04 8:25 AM (#420149 - in reply to #226386)
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Posted 2014-01-04 11:44 AM (#420187 - in reply to #420149)
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1960wbdart - 2014-01-04 8:25 AM wow, wish i had half your talent,

I hope your not refering to Dorseys singing talent ........

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Posted 2014-01-04 11:47 AM (#420191 - in reply to #420187)
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1960wbdart - 2014-01-04 8:25 AM wow, wish i had half your talent,

I hope your not refering to Dorseys singing talent ........



Good one, Will!! LOL!
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Posted 2014-01-04 2:33 PM (#420240 - in reply to #420191)
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You guy's are good!!! Santa is making his list for next year. I'm glad ya'll have 11 months to repent, so its not all coal and switches. LOL Will, can you remind me of the score of that game the other night???
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Posted 2014-01-04 5:02 PM (#420268 - in reply to #420240)
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oldwood - 2014-01-04 2:33 PM You guy's are good!!! Santa is making his list for next year. I'm glad ya'll have 11 months to repent, so its not all coal and switches. LOL Will, can you remind me of the score of that game the other night???

There was a game ........???? I don't watch games, I perfer sports.

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Posted 2014-01-21 5:06 PM (#423256 - in reply to #226386)
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I stripped the two front fenders of paint and primer, found a small rust hole and a spot where the rocker molding had rubbed through the metal that I then welded up. After bumping and dinging the dents out, I scraped peeling undercoat from the inside, and sandblasted the entire inside, as well as the headlight areas. Next was to spray the fenders, inside and out with etching primer, until the finish body work can be done.



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big m
Posted 2014-01-21 5:14 PM (#423257 - in reply to #226386)
Subject: Re: The Resurrection of 'Rusty' [the '59 Sport Fury]



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I dug out the rustfree deck lid I had saved for a number of year, it was the only one I had ever found that didn't have rust bubbles in the lower lip. It did have two coats of paint that did not want to come off easily. After removing the paint on the top, I decided to sandblast the bottom as there was surface rust along with peeling paint. The tar paper-like material on the bottom was disintegrating, so I removed it all with a scraper.



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Posted 2014-01-21 5:34 PM (#423261 - in reply to #226386)
Subject: Re: The Resurrection of 'Rusty' [the '59 Sport Fury]



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Did you manage to get all that paper stuff out from under the webbing John

Had a fun time with that stuff when I got it out of my dodge trunk lid

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Posted 2014-01-21 5:36 PM (#423262 - in reply to #423257)
Subject: Re: The Resurrection of 'Rusty' [the '59 Sport Fury]


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John -

Do you plan to remove the outer skin so that the sound deadening material can be replaced ? I would think that it should be in place to keep the trunk lid from sounding tinny when closed. I'm facing the same issue with my 59 Dodge.

Ron

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d500neil
Posted 2014-01-21 7:45 PM (#423280 - in reply to #226386)
Subject: Re: The Resurrection of 'Rusty' [the '59 Sport Fury]



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It appears what you'd have to do is separate the two trunk halves, and then paint them separately.

Then, the deadener sheet gets installed and the halves are crimped together.

And, additional finish color is sprayed onto the crimped edges, avoiding the deadener panels.

I spent two hours masking off the deadener panels and the entire rear of the car, so that only the underside could get
repainted....taking about 5 minutes' time.

Do you have another 59 PLY decklid, with good deadener panel(s) in it?








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