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Location: Chesterfield, Virginia | There,s a 58 Desoto Cvt for sale around the Detroit area. It needs complete restoration.There are many parts, body, trim .ect. along with 2 392 engines in dis assembly.The owner passed away and his brother inherited the stash.He wants to sell all There are some pics on the Desoto Club discussion forum .You can call the owner ,Robert Chapman at 1-586-749-7449.  |
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Location: Montreal, Canada | Wow!! Now, that's a rare find! Hope someone here can get it! |
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Location: Montreal, Canada | 55poly - 2010-09-07 12:19 PM
what's a "Cvt"?
i might be interested it it's an ADVENTURER...
Convertible.
It's a Firesweep. |
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Location: Midwest USA | ah... thanks... (sorry 'bout the delete just before your post, i "assumed" it meant convertible and i deleted apparently just as you were posting...) |
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Location: Midwest USA | may i have a link to the "Desoto Club discussion forum" please...
Detroit is just a few hours from here and while not a DeSoto ADVENTURER, i might still be interested after seeing pics... |
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Location: Montreal, Canada | 55poly - 2010-09-07 12:35 PM
may i have a link to the "Desoto Club discussion forum" please...
Detroit is just a few hours from here and while not a DeSoto ADVENTURER, i might still be interested after seeing pics...
http://www.desoto.org/phpbbforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3551 |
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Location: Fleetwood, Pa | Another one comes out of the woodwork!!!!
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Location: The Mile High City | Fantastic! David, thanks for posting that link. I am a member of the NDC, but I have never been able to view the forums. Something about cookies. I clicked on the link and there it all was.
The 'sweep looks like a very promising start. It is always a bit sad to see a good car with all the parts and intentions to restore - then time gets away I guess...
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Location: bishop, ca | It's a Firesweep (Dodge version), but that's OK!
Edited by d500neil 2010-09-07 3:34 PM
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Location: Lordstown, Ohio | d500neil - 2010-09-07 3:32 PM
It's a Firesweep (Dodge version), but that's OK!
Help me understand what this means? Does it mean that this car is the least desirable of the Desoto's. (cheapest version?)
I talked with the guy about 45 minutes or so. His dad wants out of there. He had a broker call him on it, offered him 15-20k for all of it. Someone from Sweden. And myself. I would really like to own this ride, but I need to sell a 60 Fury Golden Commando convertible, and maybe a 69 Camaro convertible
Wayne
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Location: bishop, ca | Right; entry-level model, that was actually built on the Dodge assembly line, which means it shares a lot
of features/equipment with the Dodge models, including its frame-chassis/engine, and its front sheet metal.
It was the Economy version of the upscale DeSoto.
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Location: Montreal, Canada | It was the economy-model in 1958, but that doesn't mean they sell for cheap now, of course... Remember this one that sold for 154 000$ last year?
http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=27413&...58%20firesweep%20conv&highlightmode=1#M189597
...and there's a reference in that thread to another one that sold in January 2008 for 170 000$!!
I hope it works out for you, Wayne!
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Location: bishop, ca | All it takes is one or more people with lots of money to spend...the question becomes: how MANY one-or-more
people are still interested-and-able to spend their lot (arguably too-much) of money, on a particular car?
E.G.: this car-and-parts would have brought a lot higher initial buying offer, than $20K, around
1990.
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Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | Obviously the Hemi's were not for this car (at least originally). It came with a 326 and pretty good chance it had a 2 speed "Powerflite" tranny--alto you could pay extra back then and get the torqueflite.
Except for the front, the car looks very much like the "Senior Desotos" (Firedome, Fireflite and Adventurer).
From the rear, it is hard to tell one from the other. The interiors of the firesweeps were about as exciting as the original "Snowflake" my 59 Vert Coronet had, (That was converted by the seller to A Custom Royal) except for the eyebrows and the interior and I finished that.
Good point about time sneaking away--that's why I drive mine, every day and enjoy the heck out of it.
I would have liked to have seen a Blue 59 Dodge Convertible back on the road, but I think time will "Get away from Me" before that happens!
Now that the Swedes know about that 58 cvt, I think our chances of keeping it in the US are about as good as a snowball's chance in Yorba Linda, Calif!
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Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | Naw, I messed up on the motor Mike, I was thinking about the 57 Sweep I had--It had the 326 & Powerflite.
The 58 had the 350 motor---boy I getting old, (One of you guys wanna volunteer to Chaueffer me around in my 59 Vert)
((I may be getting too senile to drive it))
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Location: Parts Unknown | I spoke with Bob at length about this car several weeks ago. I still have not seen the photos he had promised.
The car was originally light blue with white sweep and top. It did not have much for options. Likely I will deploy
before I hear back from him. I'd love to have a baseline convertible like this to do with no sweep, dog dishies and
blackwalls just as a contrast to the bling-barge Fireflite. 
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Location: Fleetwood, Pa | The one you reference Soiouz, is going to auction again. Saw it advertised in Hemmings. Not sure what auction anymore. We'll see what it brings this time around. My bet says not near $154,000........ |
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Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | I will have it, nice project. All rare parts looks bee there: sun visors Conv (ather brackets), vent frame conv, topframe, top moulding, Belt mouldning? (no pic). So it a "easy" projekt, but cost money if you will have it very fine. |
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Location: Louisiana | It appears to have the Firedome interior upgrade. |
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Location: Parts Unknown | It has a clock, passenger side ashtray, and the very rare bright blue driver's door interior top trim ! 
Goes very well with the lovely bronze over blue exterior ! 
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Location: Sweden Varberg | I like the original colors.
It have the same combination as my Fireflite.
They whould be a nice couple:) |
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Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | Hi Flagga have you some pics at your 58 Fireflite? |
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Location: Some Island called Prince Edward | Anyone want to garner a guess as to what this car is worth? |
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Location: Sweden Varberg | Hi Joakim!
Take a look in my album, there is some pic´s. |
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Location: The Mile High City | toddst - 2010-09-09 8:57 AM
Anyone want to garner a guess as to what this car is worth?
I am always willing to guess. It is complete, but needs a full restoration. Assuming no ridiculous rust issues, my guess is $14,732.16. If I were selling it, I would not sell for less than $10,000. If I were buying it, I would not pay $20,000 (even delivered to my front door by the Swedish Bikini Team). |
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Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | If the car was at sale in Sweden. I guess the seller got 29000-30000$ in this conditions here.
Why is all nice car project over the sea....
Ok we have not see the sellers price yet $$
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Location: Lordstown, Ohio | Windsor59 - 2010-09-09 3:58 PM
If the car was at sale in Sweden. I guess the seller got 29000-30000$ in this conditions here.
Why is all nice car project over the sea....
Ok we have not see the sellers price yet $$
I talked with Bob today. He told me for the car ONLY he was thinking around $17200.00 Thats what he said 2 guys were dickering over. Thta price does not include any of th parts.
Wayne
So,.......I gues I'm out, unless I can sell my Fury |
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Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | w.weiland - 2010-09-09 4:05 PM
Windsor59 - 2010-09-09 3:58 PM
If the car was at sale in Sweden. I guess the seller got 29000-30000$ in this conditions here.
Why is all nice car project over the sea....
Ok we have not see the sellers price yet $$
I talked with Bob today. He told me for the car ONLY he was thinking around $17200.00 Thats what he said 2 guys were dickering over. Thta price does not include any of th parts.
Wayne
Ok thanks for the info w.weiland abouth the DeSoto price.
So,.......I gues I'm out, unless I can sell my Fury
And you allready owner a nice Fury 60 conv, dont sell it. |
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Location: Lordstown, Ohio | Anyone know if this car sold? |
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| I talked to Bob ( nice guy ) the other day. He said after telling one guy he could have everything for 10K, he got tired of waiting after not hearing from him, and began taking offers. Someone from France bought just the conv for $20K. |
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Location: Netherlands | You snooze you looze... or, you're left stuck with all your money, and no car...! And all the while time is seeping away
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Location: The Mile High City | A (near) steal at $10,000 - probably a pretty fair price at $20,000 depending on all the extra goodies. Another one hopping over the pond! |
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Location: NY & VT | Any 58 DeSoto Conv in restorable solid condition worth WAY more than 10k, even in this economy, I'd say 20 is not too high. |
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Location: Lordstown, Ohio | When I talked with Bob about the car. He told me everything was being sold as a package. Had I known that I could of got the car for 10k I would of bought it and tried to sell my Fury convertible afterwards. Oh well.
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Location: bishop, ca | Well, it's a small world, and, at least this ride will (should-) get a sympathetic restoration.
The American-market is apparently saturated; good for the REST of the world to get involved in MoPar
restorations.
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Location: Parts Unknown | Yeah, ... I am thrilled to know another one of these cars will never see the American road again. 
I toyed with buying this car, but just could not swing it in the time frame before deployment. I guess my
time was oversaturated with things to do like finish wrapping up my building and packing for a long trip. |
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Location: bradenton florida | My Firesweep conv. has the Firedome interior also. i thought that someone had swapped it at some time. any way to find out if it orgional? |
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Location: The Mile High City | Garry -
Have you sent a request to Chrysler Historical for your build card? That might tell about the interior. If you have a scan of the build card, you should post it in the VIN and data plate forum under a thread called 1958 De Soto. That's where mine is along with Doc's, Gidman's, Faltus', Jones' (?), and Nichols'. I think we can figure out some of those codes if we work together on it. |
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Location: Parts Unknown | It was not uncommon for Firesweep buyers to upgrade to the Firedome interior. However, the
all-vinyl interior was often preferred in the convertibles, due to sun exposure on the fabrics. How
many here are old enough to remember what a big deal it was to close the drapes to keep the sun
from getting on Grandma's couch ? I have not heard that cry since I was a kid !
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58 Desoto cvt found for sale !
