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wizard
Posted 2014-04-17 4:24 PM (#436603 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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Dedicated as always Serge, that took you some time to create I imagine - real hardcore for the '59 Dodge entusiasts
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sermey
Posted 2014-04-21 2:34 PM (#437149 - in reply to #253529)
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There are two scripts Custom Royal”, on the left and the right side of the car. They are made in golden anodized Aluminium. Because letters cannot be mirrored, both scripts are identical.

A picture and/or better a scan on the flatbed scanner gives a useful reference contour. Before using, it must be aligned to fit to the real measured values. The picture 01 shows the "aligned" script, the verticals

of the support becoming straight and the sheetmetall underneath rounded. As these emblems varies in details from one to the other, the letters of the reference sketch have to be optimized – what needs the most time. Once the result is satisfying by visual control, then the proceeding is simple. Finally, the modeled scripts have to be deformed to the bodys curved surface. CAD made this easy, but by processing the computer goes quite busy. The mounting pins are missing and not modeled here.

Another golden eye-catcher, upgrading the 1959 Dodge Custom Royal to its exclusivity  -  SERGE -

 



Edited by sermey 2014-04-21 2:56 PM




(01 Model on Picture 25.jpg)



(02 Deforming to Body 25.jpg)



(03 Rear Details 25.jpg)



(04 3D-Script Custom Royal 25.jpg)



(05 3D Dual View 25.jpg)



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sermey
Posted 2014-04-21 2:46 PM (#437150 - in reply to #436600)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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ronbo97 - 2014-04-17 10:02 PM

Would you be able to someday output these files to a 3D printer and produce finished copies, ready to be mounted ?

Note: Coronet had a nameplate that read 'Coronet' on front fender. Only the station wagons and Silver Challenger had the trunk medallion on the fenders. Are you fancying things up a bit by making the knight's head gold ?

Ron

Ron, if you send me the exact contour of the nameplate "Coronet", I can do this for you (JPG or PDF). These files, converted to .STEP or .STL as used in the industry, can directly be used for Tooling or 3D-Printing. Last process is still not enough exact for small

parts. The Golden Knight Head is still on my "program", but it must be done perfectly.

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ronbo97
Posted 2014-04-21 9:13 PM (#437195 - in reply to #437150)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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Serge -

I will shoot some high quality images for you and email to your bluewin.ch email address. I'll include a ruler for scale.

Ron

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sermey
Posted 2015-05-25 9:15 AM (#479323 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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FWL Emblem: This emblem is not a 1959 Dodge part. But I am fascinating of this design. Here some variations in 3D-RealView. All fantastic combinations can be done.

But for another time.  - SERGE - 





(01 FWL Emblem.jpg)



(02 FWL Emblem.jpg)



(03 FWL Emblem.jpg)



(04 FWL Emblem Dual.jpg)



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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-06-24 1:22 PM (#482638 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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So they can be 3d printed?
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sermey
Posted 2016-10-18 12:12 PM (#523728 - in reply to #253529)
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Push Button Unit: The gear in the automatic torqueflite transmission is set by five push buttons R – N – D – 1 – 2 . These are moulded parts in green transparent plastic, the letters are graved and colored with paint (01). These buttons are just shifted on to the rear mechanical unit. The transparency shows exact the original conical design (02). The protecting chrome cups are pushed on the buttons (03). For a smoother return, O-rings are provided as dampener (04).

Finally, the patterned and polished aluminium panel is mounted and fixed by two screws (05). As the buttons are in transparent plastic, with rear light they appear illuminated (06). In the exploded views all parts are visible (07)(08).

Here the push button unit as it is – in 3D-RealView.

Any questions? Yes, with the STL-files of the present design these push buttons could be reproduced exactly with a 3D Printer, even the green transparent 3D Filament is now available.  - SERGE -  

 



Edited by sermey 2016-10-18 11:55 PM




(01 CAD 1959 Push Buttons R-N-D-1-2.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Rear Connection.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Chrome Cups.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Rubber Dampener.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Patterned Alu-Panel.jpg)



(06 CAD 1959 Assembly FrontView Illuminated.jpg)



(07 CAD 1959 Assembly Exploded SideView.jpg)



(08 CAD 1959 Assembly Exploded TopView.jpg)



(09 CAD 1959 Push Buttons Unit.jpg)



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Attachments 06 CAD 1959 Assembly FrontView Illuminated.jpg (99KB - 73 downloads)
Attachments 07 CAD 1959 Assembly Exploded SideView.jpg (77KB - 66 downloads)
Attachments 08 CAD 1959 Assembly Exploded TopView.jpg (78KB - 67 downloads)
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wizard
Posted 2016-10-18 3:35 PM (#523744 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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This is amazing Serge - it must have taken many hours of measuring and creating the pushbuttons.
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ToMopar
Posted 2016-10-18 4:08 PM (#523746 - in reply to #253529)
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Serge, I like to print the FWL Emblem....
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sermey
Posted 2016-10-18 11:51 PM (#523784 - in reply to #523744)
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Sven: . . . .  it must have taken many hours of measuring and creating the pushbuttons . . . .

As the software is parametric, the exact dimensions are re-measured and corrected at the end of the modeling process.

And for those who are familiar with: This is not an assembly of parts as usual, but a multipart design. I use to do a mastersketch, one or two views referring to all parts.

Later the dimensions can be modified here, means that all parts are in one single file .sldprt, and in the sketched position, except when "exploded".

Equal items are modeled together, or mirrored, arrayed and copied if needed.  - SERGE -



Edited by sermey 2016-10-19 2:51 AM
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De55
Posted 2016-10-19 7:29 AM (#523801 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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Serge, as one who works with architectural CAD every day, my hat is off to you. These are stunning!!
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sermey
Posted 2017-02-20 3:58 PM (#534412 - in reply to #253529)
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Convertible Top Pin – Grommet: Devices to center and seal the top when up, in the parts catalogue as “catch and seal”. The easiest part until now to model. Just needed the correct dimensions of the grommet. Here some pictures in 3D-RealView. - SERGE -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





(01 Bottom Up Exploded View.jpg)



(02 Horizontal Exploded View.jpg)



(03 3D Exploded View.jpg)



(04 Assembled Section View.jpg)



(05 Assembled.jpg)



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sermey
Posted 2017-03-03 7:57 PM (#535114 - in reply to #523801)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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"Serge, as one who works with architectural CAD every day, my hat is off to you. These are stunning!!"

Thanks for your comment, Dean.

Some are more spectacular, this last is very easy: just revolve the profile.  - SERGE - 





(MasterSketch Revolve.jpg)



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sermey
Posted 2018-04-24 5:32 AM (#562176 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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The reference for numbering the speedometer scale is the drum, as it is lateral fixed and cannot be moved. Thus, the distances of the scale numbers have to be positioned and centered according the lines (01). Total distance for any 10mph is 18.583mm, the numbering length for 140mph (center to center) is 223mm. The original scale is somewhat mismatched, now the numbers are aligned to the speedometer drum (02).

The letters and the directional emblems on the original glass are engraved backside and whitened. The upper and lower white stripe support the illumination (03). The glass version with the speed reminder option has an additional scale which is printed (04). The setting knob here looks like a lonely bird flying in the sky (05).

At the speed of 0mph the first green bar is just (not-) visible at correct setting (06). Up to 30mph the bar is GREEN (07), from 30 – 50mph turns to YELLOW (08), and higher than 50mph up shows RED (09). The assembly is shown in (10). On the exploded view, the rear metal panel in black and the colored tabs, green and blue for the light signals, are brought out (11).

Finally, the correct and direct interchangeable Speedometer Scale in kmph,  0 – 180 (120mph = 193.08kmph). 200 is out of the range and would interfere with the Speed Reminder Scale. Compressing the scale to 200 to coincide to 120 needs a recalibration. For completing, the front chrome bar  D O D G E  (12).  - SERGE - 

 

More options and printable templates will be presented in the thread “Make-up your car”.

 

 

 



Edited by sermey 2018-04-24 5:47 AM




(01 Speedometer Drum.jpg)



(02 Alignment of the Numbers.jpg)



(03 Glass 0 - 120mph.jpg)



(04 Glass 0 - 120mph with Speed Reminder.jpg)



(05 Speed Reminder Knob.jpg)



(06 0mph GREEN just visible.jpg)



(07 GREEN up to 30mph.jpg)



(08 YELLOW 30 - 50mph.jpg)



(09 RED 50mph up.jpg)



(10 Assembly 0 - 120mph.jpg)



(11 Assembly Exploded View.jpg)



(12 Assembly 0 - 180kmph.jpg)



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Attachments 10 Assembly 0 - 120mph.jpg (104KB - 19 downloads)
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wizard
Posted 2018-04-24 6:30 AM (#562178 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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Our Serge at work again, leaving us all impressed and amazed!

Very nice idea with the combined km/h and mph

The exploded view is totally great help for insight and knowledge!!!
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mstrug
Posted 2018-07-14 8:54 AM (#566586 - in reply to #253529)
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Absolutely amazing! Has 3D caught up now? I see YouTube videos of very smooth 'prints' from share ware or whatever it is called. It then can be molded in silicone and cast in wax and then molded in a plaster mold with metal like white bronze. You just need a vacuum bell, 3D printer, forge, kiln, silicone/plaster mold making equipment, wax dispenser, and skill. Marc.
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sermey
Posted 2018-07-16 2:27 AM (#566668 - in reply to #566586)
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To your positive comment, Marc:

There are new generations of 3D-Printers on the way, Multilayer-types. The first layer for fast basic build-up, the last layer for high resolution surface enabling direct plating. All the modeled parts here, generated as STL-Files, then can be produced at very low cost and high quality, for all 3D-Printing process is automated.
The most expensive part in time is the modeling. To get the templates accurate it needs the appropriate software, the know-how to work with, some engineering skills, and sometimes more time to get all perfect. But first an original part and the exact dimensions. Once it is done, it can be used infinitely as a standard printing template.
For huge quantity a molded part will still remain the way for lowest cost, by using an electro-eroded injection tool, built-up from a STEP-File.

Looking forward to the coming years, everyone can afford dual rear antennas, D-500 emblems, Lancer Emblems. . . . ., in a nicer finish as NOS-ones (see picture).

 

Unfortunately, up today nobody on this site, was in the position to support the modeling as presented in this thread. - SERGE - 



Edited by sermey 2018-07-16 3:33 AM




(Preliminary Details View.jpg)



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sermey
Posted 2018-08-03 8:10 AM (#567720 - in reply to #253529)
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Emblem FUEL Injection 58: A few month ago there was a thread about this, obviously very loved emblem, and very rare. Repros have been in discussion and attempts of modeling presented.

As enthusiast of emblems then I modeled this part on the base of pictures, as no reference samples are available. Thus, all you see is by view and not accurate. The precice dimensions should be applied to this model, if one day disposable.

Now I did some final corrections for present here. The rear of the emblem I have never seen, it is done as I would be the designer. Some details, Front / Rear View,  may help as starter for those who will do repros.

 

Anyway, an exceptional emblem, in reality nicer than just in 3D-RealView. Another challenging game!   - SERGE -  ;)

 

 

 



Edited by sermey 2018-08-03 8:26 AM




(01 Original Emblem Fuel Injection 58.jpg)



(02 Emblem Fuel Injection 58 CAD.jpg)



(03 Body of Emblem.jpg)



(04 Details of Body.jpg)



(05 Insertion of Emblem.jpg)



(06 F U E L -Buttons.jpg)



(07 Script I N J E C T I O N.jpg)



(08 Replaced Emblem Fuel Injection 58.jpg)



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Attachments 06 F U E L -Buttons.jpg (127KB - 7 downloads)
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wizard
Posted 2018-08-03 11:22 AM (#567729 - in reply to #253529)
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Wow, that looks very perfect to me - a lot of work and thinking behind it Serge! I really hope that someone will inform you about the dimensions of this super rare emblem.
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sermey
Posted 2018-08-04 5:03 AM (#567785 - in reply to #567720)
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I found another Picture, downloaded from Danny/57burb (09).

To get the emblem from CAD in Photoshop without any background: save from SolidWorks as PNG, in Options set “remove background” and the resolution. Then imported in Photoshop: place, resize and distort to fit on the picture (10).

With the correct dimensions should look similar to Original. Just the light and surface settings are not optimal (11).  To add: the overall shell is set to 1.6mm, as most other FWL-Emblems. - SERGE -

 

 

 



Edited by sermey 2018-08-04 11:07 AM




(09 Original Emblem Fuel Injection 58.jpg)



(10 Emblem CAD PrtScreen Distorted.jpg)



(11 Replaced EmblemFuel Injection 58.jpg)



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Posted 2018-08-07 11:44 AM (#567989 - in reply to #253529)
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Cool! you have some computer chops. whats your plan are you going to have it machined?
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sermey
Posted 2018-08-07 3:34 PM (#568003 - in reply to #567989)
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Hi Vince! I see you first time here - welcome on board of creative and multi-talented people.

For the moment I do nothing with - it's just for fun. If the time has come (to have produced in 3D-Printing in High-Resolution for a shiny surface), I will realise some prototypes. For commercial or business purpose there are many good guys here who would care for. The basics are

accurate 1 : 1 models in 3D-CAD as shown here. 

Now some try to go their own way - still waiting and looking forward to results to come. -

Computer: 2 DELL Precision M6800 i7-4930 MX and two HD DELL Monitors 27" (2x 30" resp). Much less than a FWL-Car! Then no rust and dirty hands.

The applied slogan: Not talk, but simply do-it and enjoy!  - SERGE -

 



Edited by sermey 2018-08-07 3:36 PM
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ToMopar
Posted 2018-08-08 2:38 AM (#568046 - in reply to #568003)
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sermey - 2018-08-07 8:34 PM
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yes, thats right!
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