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sermey
Posted 2011-01-23 10:38 AM (#258033 - in reply to #253529)
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This Collar on the Front Position Lamps was optional only on the  '59 Custom Royal. Original there is an upper and a lower half. Here you see the right side Collar. To get the left side one it has to be mirrored.
For an uniform view from side, this Collar here is modeled in one piece and is just cut as original, only on one, the inner side; thus being fixed with only 3 screws. On my car the full round Collar has 23 teeth as on the model - on some Original Brochures I counted less.

This is a very rare part to find, here guaranteed pits-free! - SERGE - 



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(01 CAD 1959 Collar Front View.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Collar Front Wire View.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Collar Matte Side View.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Collar View Cut Side.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Collar Rear View.jpg)



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Attachments 04 CAD 1959 Collar View Cut Side.jpg (69KB - 246 downloads)
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2011-01-23 12:34 PM (#258043 - in reply to #253529)
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Sweet. Nice progress!

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sermey
Posted 2011-01-29 2:12 PM (#258861 - in reply to #253529)
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For variation now a part that can be used, as option, on all FWL-Cars: the Dual Rear Antenna, here shown the left side one as set,  the right side one mirrored as shown in the last picture

An ingenious concept, combined with a full free surface modeling technology, allowed this complex shape to be implemented quite fast. Thus, I added more details inside the Antenna Body.
The Antenna Bar correspond to my upgraded Automatic Device, I may show it here later on.

On the other hand, here the Antenna Gasket as described in "Make-up your Car!". This Gasket can be mounted without the complicated dissassembling of the the antenna. The 3 cut-out angle have 100deg (+), the partial length are 169.5 + 171 + 25.1 = 365.6mm, the outer circumference has 367.75mm. For a better visibility I did the gaps wider than in reality. A separate file of this gasket is attached for eDrawing (free download this application SW).

Here another nice model, hard to identify differences to the Original. Many car owners are looking for this Rear Dual Antenna, and when once available - hardly affordable.
Unfortunately, here you can just see it - but not take it! - SERGE - 


Edited by sermey 2011-01-30 5:30 AM




(01 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Unit - Out.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Unit - In.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Body Removed.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Transparent View2.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Transparent View3.jpg)



(06 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Body Bottom View.jpg)



(07 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Section View.jpg)



(08 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Gasket Profile.jpg)



(09 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Gasket Mounted.jpg)



(10 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Dual R + L.jpg)



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Attachments 07 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Section View.jpg (59KB - 239 downloads)
Attachments 08 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Gasket Profile.jpg (56KB - 242 downloads)
Attachments 09 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Gasket Mounted.jpg (62KB - 246 downloads)
Attachments 10 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Dual R + L.jpg (70KB - 253 downloads)
Attachments Rear Antenna Gasket.EPRT (128KB - 243 downloads)
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wizard
Posted 2011-01-29 3:47 PM (#258872 - in reply to #253529)
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I'm flabbergasted by the beauty in those pictures - this way we can see them like the designer saw the - artwork
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Posted 2011-01-29 6:53 PM (#258888 - in reply to #253529)
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You are right

Try as I might, I could not reach into the screen and take them

darn lol

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sermey
Posted 2011-01-30 5:24 AM (#258934 - in reply to #258872)
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wizard - 2011-01-29 9:47 PM I'm flabbergasted by the beauty in those pictures . . .
. . . as I am with many excellent jobs shown on this site.

I even barely believed to get such authentic models.

To be honest: For doing this, no High School is needed, for it is not an engineering, but simply a copy of an existing part. As everyone with some know-how in applied Mechanics is able to restore a car, as well everyone with some Know-How in descriptive Geometry can translate a part to a model. Both need the correct tools and the way to use them, some creativity and the motivation to bring the ambitious aim to an end. It is like a game you want to win.

At the end all are flabbergasted of their own incredible results.  - SERGE -
 



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sermey
Posted 2011-01-31 1:41 PM (#259094 - in reply to #253529)
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To be correct, here the Original Rear Antenna Gasket. I found a pair of Repros, not used, because they are too big (up to 3mm too long), the reason for the alternative. They are equal, although the base is not symmetric. Here the Original is exact to the corresponding base.
I feel this look "softer", but not applicable without removing the antenna. Just find another profile for the alternative. Compare and judge yourself on the second picture.

I added as well an eDrawing file of this Original Gasket, hopely the producer will use this for direct tooling. - SERGE -


Edited by sermey 2011-02-01 1:34 AM




(01 CAD 1959 Original Rear Antenna Gasket.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Comparison Rear Antenna Gaskets.jpg)



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sermey
Posted 2011-02-07 5:57 PM (#260030 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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Among the three Side Mouldings, Front - Door - Rear, the Front one is particular due to the various end. The rear end of the Long Rear Moulding is as well curved in order to fit the fender.  Apart this, the profile is simple and the length is just another number to program. For a 2- door car: 398mm - 1234mm - 2375mm,  important to know when bidding in eBay!

- SERGE -





(01 CAD 1959 Front Moulding Front View.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Side Moulding Profile.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Front Moulding Curved End.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Front Moulding Other End 45deg.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Door Moulding End 90deg.jpg)



(06 CAD 1959 Door Moulding Matte Rear View.jpg)



(07 CAD 1959 Long Rear Fender Moulding.jpg)



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Attachments 03 CAD 1959 Front Moulding Curved End.jpg (93KB - 246 downloads)
Attachments 04 CAD 1959 Front Moulding Other End 45deg.jpg (73KB - 239 downloads)
Attachments 05 CAD 1959 Door Moulding End 90deg.jpg (80KB - 247 downloads)
Attachments 06 CAD 1959 Door Moulding Matte Rear View.jpg (70KB - 254 downloads)
Attachments 07 CAD 1959 Long Rear Fender Moulding.jpg (45KB - 257 downloads)
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sermey
Posted 2011-02-13 4:31 PM (#260899 - in reply to #253529)
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Not apparently on the car the slanted rear of the Front PositionLamp Bodies. Here I omitted the mounting brackets, much more complex and heavy than the body, not needed for my assembling to come.

Apart from that the shape is as the original. - SERGE -





(01 CAD 1959 Bodies Front PositionLamp.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Bodies Side View.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Bodies Rear View.jpg)



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wizard
Posted 2011-02-14 1:23 AM (#260967 - in reply to #253529)
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This thread is soo kool! Have you demounted the parts from your car, or do you measure on your spar parts Serge?
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JT Newman
Posted 2011-02-14 3:18 AM (#260973 - in reply to #253529)
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Wow. I am working with a little project on my company, preprocessing point clouds from laser scanning data. It is amazing what new programs can do. If I only had possibility to use scanner and some time to play....
Those models are wonderful! Keep up the good work!
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sermey
Posted 2011-02-14 4:55 AM (#260975 - in reply to #260967)
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Wizard: Until now I used spare parts, and I didn't disaembled parts from the car jet. I don't have a spare Door Handle and will just model what is visible, as well with other parts. Later on I can add what is missing, as the mounting brackets on the Body of the Front PositionLamp. The exact position of the items for the assembling I measure on my car.

As can be seen on some shown parts , the chrome is very shiny and on others not. When very shiny, the problem is mirroring the ambient, as when take pictures from chrome parts. Then the real shape is hardly visible. Thus, the shown Side Mouldings have removed ambient, or the mirroring profile will narrate. On the pictures you can easy recognize if there is a model or a real part, when inside a part there is unrealistic the same light and ambient. There I could add "matte chrome" as I did on the rear of the HubCap. This one looks amazing as an Original.

JT Newman: By scanning parts you get a model with all blemishes of the part due to the production process and the non-linear shrinking of the molds. A reproduction using a scanned or impressed part will experience a second shrinking. In a new part the shrinking factor is taken into account by selecting the material. On the other side, a scanned part can as well be (up-) scaled.

 - SERGE -



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sermey
Posted 2011-02-14 3:12 PM (#261016 - in reply to #253529)
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Before mounting my new Power Windows Switch I just put them in the Computer. Full geometrical devices, easy and fast to realise, even with all sizes 1 -2 - 3 - 4. I never saw a 3 Switch one, so could even do a 5 Switch item. Here I present only the Front View of the four Versions.  - SERGE -

For the freaks I have attached an eDrawing file with the single and quadro version (just the front due to file size) for play with. Now I have downloaded this pre-checked file, the remaining file name has to be renamed with the extension .EPRT (CAD -> CAD.EPRT). You may need to upgrade your eDrawing-Viewer to 2011 (for free in Internet). Please some feedback. Thanks.



Edited by sermey 2011-02-14 4:57 PM




(01 CAD 1959 Power Windows Switch.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Power Windows Switch.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Power Windows Switch.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Power Windows Switch.jpg)



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Attachments 03 CAD 1959 Power Windows Switch.jpg (61KB - 267 downloads)
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sermey
Posted 2011-02-18 10:26 AM (#261479 - in reply to #260899)
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. . .  Apart from that the shape is as the original. . . No, when assembling with the collar I saw one step wasn't cut-out on the lower side. Just cut both in one operation. I think this is for not touch the Front Bumper or for tighten the screws. Not nice, could even remove in the model. 



Edited by sermey 2011-02-18 10:32 AM




(04 CAD 1959 Front PositionLamp.jpg)



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sermey
Posted 2011-02-19 3:17 PM (#261605 - in reply to #253529)
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After completing the Front Bar I can present a first Assembly of the Front. I removed the shown Step Cut, as well on the lower side of the Front Bar, for a nicer aspect. In the Computer all is done with real dimensions 1 :1. For the first time, the owners of a 1959 Dodge can check if their Front Components are aligned correctly.

- SERGE -

 



Edited by sermey 2011-02-19 3:24 PM




(01 CAD 1959 Front in Perspective.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Front Detail View.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Front Top View.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Other Detail View.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Exact Front View.jpg)



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Attachments 02 CAD 1959 Front Detail View.jpg (84KB - 230 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 Front Top View.jpg (53KB - 258 downloads)
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wizard
Posted 2011-02-19 4:11 PM (#261620 - in reply to #253529)
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Kool Serge, will you do the sheetmetal as well? A body in white (raw metal) perhaps?
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sermey
Posted 2011-02-20 5:00 AM (#261663 - in reply to #261620)
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wizard - 2011-02-19 10:11 PM . . . will you do the sheetmetal as well? . . .

The objective is to have one day all the complete car, what is visible. The biggest job (games!) are all the parts around the car, what I am doing now. Every part is a single project. The body (sheetmetall) will be a small thing in respect to the Knight Head or other complex parts. This will be one single "cover", then being splitted in Trunk,  Doors, Hood. For now I already assemble the existing parts at the correct location, "floating in the air" - these parts are "waiting" for the body. What doesn't exist jet can be added by imagination.

At the end any color combination can be realized, even in wood, in stone, any material. All the car can be scaled, transformed, stretched . . . whatever by a few commands, keeping all in 3D-RealView. Then the car can be placed in any 3D-environment, there will hardly be a difference between reality and animation.

This will be the end of the game or - then the real game starts!  - SERGE -

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sermey
Posted 2011-02-22 1:08 PM (#261977 - in reply to #261016)
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I didn't showed the other side of the Power Windows Switch with the Mounting Bracket - to complete here it is. - SERGE -


Edited by sermey 2011-02-22 1:12 PM




(05 CAD 1959 Power Windows Switch.jpg)



(06 CAD 1959 Power Windows Switch.jpg)



(07 CAD 1959 Power Windows Switch.jpg)



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wizard
Posted 2011-02-22 1:53 PM (#261979 - in reply to #253529)
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Special thank's for posting those ones Serge, they look next to identical to the '60 ones from the backside.
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sermey
Posted 2011-02-25 5:39 AM (#262386 - in reply to #253529)
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The Rear "D O D G E" Letters mounted on the Trunk have been done in one block, with the correct distance, for an easy assembling. Without any details primarly very easy and fast to realize.  But then the pattern of the borders, with the many fillets, finally needed alone about 50 (fifty) times more memory, the file size has grown up to 49MB (Mega).

That's Design!  - SERGE -

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(01 CAD 1959 DODGE Letters Front View.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Letter D Front View Zoomed.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 DODGE Letters Rear View.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Letter D Rear View Zoomed.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 DODGE Letters on Black Car.jpg)



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sermey
Posted 2011-03-13 4:08 PM (#264510 - in reply to #253529)
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Among '59 Dodge owners, this part is well-known as "EyeBrow". If they had 3D-CAD in the fifties, this part would have been designed per shure different, with less twist, curvature and bend. I will have to do a fine fitting to the sheet metall when assembling for no gaps at all - as on my DODGE!  - SERGE -




(01 CAD 1959 EyeBrow Front View.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 EyeBrow Rear View.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Pair of EyeBrows.jpg)



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sermey
Posted 2011-03-19 6:06 PM (#265234 - in reply to #253529)
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This Rear Emblem comes on the trunk of the Custom Royal, on the Coronets there are two on the fender front sides. For technical interested Readers I show shortly how this body is being modeled.

Take a picture size 1:1 as base reference, draw five sections for the left arm, loft them along 3 guides and mirror this half to get the entire body. This as well for the flower emblem: left and center part, mirror this as to get the complete flower, and mirror all again to get it twice. Loft the upper small bar at constant profile, extrude the panel with the given profile, extrude the lower Dent and array it 5 times.

That's all! All other is the finish.

Some items are shown matte for no mirror irritations. The knight, being used as well for other Emblems to come, will be done separate and shown later.  – SERGE  -





(01 CAD 1959 Design Detail.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Chrome Front View.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Chrome Bottom View.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Golden Flower.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Matte Rear View.jpg)



(06 CAD 1959 Matte Front View.jpg)



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Attachments 02 CAD 1959 Chrome Front View.jpg (67KB - 243 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 Chrome Bottom View.jpg (86KB - 244 downloads)
Attachments 04 CAD 1959 Golden Flower.jpg (84KB - 242 downloads)
Attachments 05 CAD 1959 Matte Rear View.jpg (56KB - 249 downloads)
Attachments 06 CAD 1959 Matte Front View.jpg (65KB - 235 downloads)
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sermey
Posted 2014-04-17 2:54 PM (#436591 - in reply to #253529)
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The Chevron Emblems are mounted on the rear fenders, thus there have two different ones, the one for the left side and the other for the right side, with different part numbers.

At the first glance they look equal. But the lower side, seen when mounted, is about 1.5mm higher. Here I modeled both items symmetric, the mounting pins being mirrored as on the samples. The original emblems have various thickness, and the wings differs from the others in details – the wellknown tolerances at the time. A reproduction by from a 3D-scan of these parts could be critical.

Now I can state, this Chevron Emblem has never been illustrated as nice and perfect as on the shown pictures here.  – SERGE - 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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(03 Section View 25.jpg)



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ronbo97
Posted 2014-04-17 4:02 PM (#436600 - in reply to #436591)
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Would you be able to someday output these files to a 3D printer and produce finished copies, ready to be mounted ?

Note: Coronet had a nameplate that read 'Coronet' on front fender. Only the station wagons and Silver Challenger had the trunk medallion on the fenders. Are you fancying things up a bit by making the knight's head gold ?

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wizard
Posted 2014-04-17 4:24 PM (#436603 - in reply to #253529)
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Dedicated as always Serge, that took you some time to create I imagine - real hardcore for the '59 Dodge entusiasts
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sermey
Posted 2014-04-21 2:34 PM (#437149 - in reply to #253529)
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There are two scripts Custom Royal”, on the left and the right side of the car. They are made in golden anodized Aluminium. Because letters cannot be mirrored, both scripts are identical.

A picture and/or better a scan on the flatbed scanner gives a useful reference contour. Before using, it must be aligned to fit to the real measured values. The picture 01 shows the "aligned" script, the verticals

of the support becoming straight and the sheetmetall underneath rounded. As these emblems varies in details from one to the other, the letters of the reference sketch have to be optimized – what needs the most time. Once the result is satisfying by visual control, then the proceeding is simple. Finally, the modeled scripts have to be deformed to the bodys curved surface. CAD made this easy, but by processing the computer goes quite busy. The mounting pins are missing and not modeled here.

Another golden eye-catcher, upgrading the 1959 Dodge Custom Royal to its exclusivity  -  SERGE -

 



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(01 Model on Picture 25.jpg)



(02 Deforming to Body 25.jpg)



(03 Rear Details 25.jpg)



(04 3D-Script Custom Royal 25.jpg)



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sermey
Posted 2014-04-21 2:46 PM (#437150 - in reply to #436600)
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ronbo97 - 2014-04-17 10:02 PM

Would you be able to someday output these files to a 3D printer and produce finished copies, ready to be mounted ?

Note: Coronet had a nameplate that read 'Coronet' on front fender. Only the station wagons and Silver Challenger had the trunk medallion on the fenders. Are you fancying things up a bit by making the knight's head gold ?

Ron

Ron, if you send me the exact contour of the nameplate "Coronet", I can do this for you (JPG or PDF). These files, converted to .STEP or .STL as used in the industry, can directly be used for Tooling or 3D-Printing. Last process is still not enough exact for small

parts. The Golden Knight Head is still on my "program", but it must be done perfectly.

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Posted 2014-04-21 9:13 PM (#437195 - in reply to #437150)
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Serge -

I will shoot some high quality images for you and email to your bluewin.ch email address. I'll include a ruler for scale.

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Posted 2015-05-25 9:15 AM (#479323 - in reply to #253529)
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FWL Emblem: This emblem is not a 1959 Dodge part. But I am fascinating of this design. Here some variations in 3D-RealView. All fantastic combinations can be done.

But for another time.  - SERGE - 





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Posted 2015-06-24 1:22 PM (#482638 - in reply to #253529)
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So they can be 3d printed?
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Posted 2016-10-18 12:12 PM (#523728 - in reply to #253529)
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Push Button Unit: The gear in the automatic torqueflite transmission is set by five push buttons R – N – D – 1 – 2 . These are moulded parts in green transparent plastic, the letters are graved and colored with paint (01). These buttons are just shifted on to the rear mechanical unit. The transparency shows exact the original conical design (02). The protecting chrome cups are pushed on the buttons (03). For a smoother return, O-rings are provided as dampener (04).

Finally, the patterned and polished aluminium panel is mounted and fixed by two screws (05). As the buttons are in transparent plastic, with rear light they appear illuminated (06). In the exploded views all parts are visible (07)(08).

Here the push button unit as it is – in 3D-RealView.

Any questions? Yes, with the STL-files of the present design these push buttons could be reproduced exactly with a 3D Printer, even the green transparent 3D Filament is now available.  - SERGE -  

 



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(02 CAD 1959 Rear Connection.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Chrome Cups.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Rubber Dampener.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Patterned Alu-Panel.jpg)



(06 CAD 1959 Assembly FrontView Illuminated.jpg)



(07 CAD 1959 Assembly Exploded SideView.jpg)



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Posted 2016-10-18 3:35 PM (#523744 - in reply to #253529)
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This is amazing Serge - it must have taken many hours of measuring and creating the pushbuttons.
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Posted 2016-10-18 4:08 PM (#523746 - in reply to #253529)
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Serge, I like to print the FWL Emblem....
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Posted 2016-10-18 11:51 PM (#523784 - in reply to #523744)
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Sven: . . . .  it must have taken many hours of measuring and creating the pushbuttons . . . .

As the software is parametric, the exact dimensions are re-measured and corrected at the end of the modeling process.

And for those who are familiar with: This is not an assembly of parts as usual, but a multipart design. I use to do a mastersketch, one or two views referring to all parts.

Later the dimensions can be modified here, means that all parts are in one single file .sldprt, and in the sketched position, except when "exploded".

Equal items are modeled together, or mirrored, arrayed and copied if needed.  - SERGE -



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Posted 2016-10-19 7:29 AM (#523801 - in reply to #253529)
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Serge, as one who works with architectural CAD every day, my hat is off to you. These are stunning!!
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Posted 2017-02-20 3:58 PM (#534412 - in reply to #253529)
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Convertible Top Pin – Grommet: Devices to center and seal the top when up, in the parts catalogue as “catch and seal”. The easiest part until now to model. Just needed the correct dimensions of the grommet. Here some pictures in 3D-RealView. - SERGE -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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Posted 2017-03-03 7:57 PM (#535114 - in reply to #523801)
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"Serge, as one who works with architectural CAD every day, my hat is off to you. These are stunning!!"

Thanks for your comment, Dean.

Some are more spectacular, this last is very easy: just revolve the profile.  - SERGE - 





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Posted 2018-04-24 5:32 AM (#562176 - in reply to #253529)
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The reference for numbering the speedometer scale is the drum, as it is lateral fixed and cannot be moved. Thus, the distances of the scale numbers have to be positioned and centered according the lines (01). Total distance for any 10mph is 18.583mm, the numbering length for 140mph (center to center) is 223mm. The original scale is somewhat mismatched, now the numbers are aligned to the speedometer drum (02).

The letters and the directional emblems on the original glass are engraved backside and whitened. The upper and lower white stripe support the illumination (03). The glass version with the speed reminder option has an additional scale which is printed (04). The setting knob here looks like a lonely bird flying in the sky (05).

At the speed of 0mph the first green bar is just (not-) visible at correct setting (06). Up to 30mph the bar is GREEN (07), from 30 – 50mph turns to YELLOW (08), and higher than 50mph up shows RED (09). The assembly is shown in (10). On the exploded view, the rear metal panel in black and the colored tabs, green and blue for the light signals, are brought out (11).

Finally, the correct and direct interchangeable Speedometer Scale in kmph,  0 – 180 (120mph = 193.08kmph). 200 is out of the range and would interfere with the Speed Reminder Scale. Compressing the scale to 200 to coincide to 120 needs a recalibration. For completing, the front chrome bar  D O D G E  (12).  - SERGE - 

 

More options and printable templates will be presented in the thread “Make-up your car”.

 

 

 



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Posted 2018-04-24 6:30 AM (#562178 - in reply to #253529)
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Our Serge at work again, leaving us all impressed and amazed!

Very nice idea with the combined km/h and mph

The exploded view is totally great help for insight and knowledge!!!
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Posted 2018-07-14 8:54 AM (#566586 - in reply to #253529)
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Absolutely amazing! Has 3D caught up now? I see YouTube videos of very smooth 'prints' from share ware or whatever it is called. It then can be molded in silicone and cast in wax and then molded in a plaster mold with metal like white bronze. You just need a vacuum bell, 3D printer, forge, kiln, silicone/plaster mold making equipment, wax dispenser, and skill. Marc.
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Posted 2018-07-16 2:27 AM (#566668 - in reply to #566586)
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To your positive comment, Marc:

There are new generations of 3D-Printers on the way, Multilayer-types. The first layer for fast basic build-up, the last layer for high resolution surface enabling direct plating. All the modeled parts here, generated as STL-Files, then can be produced at very low cost and high quality, for all 3D-Printing process is automated.
The most expensive part in time is the modeling. To get the templates accurate it needs the appropriate software, the know-how to work with, some engineering skills, and sometimes more time to get all perfect. But first an original part and the exact dimensions. Once it is done, it can be used infinitely as a standard printing template.
For huge quantity a molded part will still remain the way for lowest cost, by using an electro-eroded injection tool, built-up from a STEP-File.

Looking forward to the coming years, everyone can afford dual rear antennas, D-500 emblems, Lancer Emblems. . . . ., in a nicer finish as NOS-ones (see picture).

 

Unfortunately, up today nobody on this site, was in the position to support the modeling as presented in this thread. - SERGE - 



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(Preliminary Details View.jpg)



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Posted 2018-08-03 8:10 AM (#567720 - in reply to #253529)
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Emblem FUEL Injection 58: A few month ago there was a thread about this, obviously very loved emblem, and very rare. Repros have been in discussion and attempts of modeling presented.

As enthusiast of emblems then I modeled this part on the base of pictures, as no reference samples are available. Thus, all you see is by view and not accurate. The precice dimensions should be applied to this model, if one day disposable.

Now I did some final corrections for present here. The rear of the emblem I have never seen, it is done as I would be the designer. Some details, Front / Rear View,  may help as starter for those who will do repros.

 

Anyway, an exceptional emblem, in reality nicer than just in 3D-RealView. Another challenging game!   - SERGE -  ;)

 

 

 



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(02 Emblem Fuel Injection 58 CAD.jpg)



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Posted 2018-08-03 11:22 AM (#567729 - in reply to #253529)
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Wow, that looks very perfect to me - a lot of work and thinking behind it Serge! I really hope that someone will inform you about the dimensions of this super rare emblem.
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Posted 2018-08-04 5:03 AM (#567785 - in reply to #567720)
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I found another Picture, downloaded from Danny/57burb (09).

To get the emblem from CAD in Photoshop without any background: save from SolidWorks as PNG, in Options set “remove background” and the resolution. Then imported in Photoshop: place, resize and distort to fit on the picture (10).

With the correct dimensions should look similar to Original. Just the light and surface settings are not optimal (11).  To add: the overall shell is set to 1.6mm, as most other FWL-Emblems. - SERGE -

 

 

 



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Posted 2018-08-07 11:44 AM (#567989 - in reply to #253529)
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Cool! you have some computer chops. whats your plan are you going to have it machined?
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Posted 2018-08-07 3:34 PM (#568003 - in reply to #567989)
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Hi Vince! I see you first time here - welcome on board of creative and multi-talented people.

For the moment I do nothing with - it's just for fun. If the time has come (to have produced in 3D-Printing in High-Resolution for a shiny surface), I will realise some prototypes. For commercial or business purpose there are many good guys here who would care for. The basics are

accurate 1 : 1 models in 3D-CAD as shown here. 

Now some try to go their own way - still waiting and looking forward to results to come. -

Computer: 2 DELL Precision M6800 i7-4930 MX and two HD DELL Monitors 27" (2x 30" resp). Much less than a FWL-Car! Then no rust and dirty hands.

The applied slogan: Not talk, but simply do-it and enjoy!  - SERGE -

 



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Posted 2018-08-08 2:38 AM (#568046 - in reply to #568003)
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........board of creative and multi-talented people


yes, thats right!
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Posted 2018-09-01 12:30 PM (#569368 - in reply to #253529)
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sermey
Posted 2018-09-27 6:18 AM (#570814 - in reply to #569368)
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mstrug - 2018-09-01 6:30 PM More pics for you:

Thank you Marc for these clear pictures. I see many items to be corrected, dimensions still missing. Should model with emblem in hand as shown in the next thread.

Your constructive comments, Marc, are always very appreciated.  - SERGE - 

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Posted 2018-09-27 7:08 AM (#570815 - in reply to #253529)
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Knight DODGE 59: The 1959 Dodges have their own Knight style. They vary somewhat on the various emblems, due to different supplier at that time.

After a few years I started a new attempt to model the 1959 Dodge Knight, based on the rear / side emblem found on most models. This one will then be integrated on all modeled emblems to come.

And now finally here it is (01)(02)! A crazy exercise: 3D-Splines, 3D-Curved Surfaces, more a graphical than a geometrical modeling, realized mostly accurate. Overall thickness as original 1.6mm. here some details at no chrome for better view (03)(04)(05)(06).

One day the Golden Knight meets the Chrome Knight (07), later on at a Private Party (08).   - SERGE -   :laugh:

 



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(01 Knight Emblem Front View.jpg)



(02 Knight Emblem Rear View.jpg)



(03 Knight Emblem Details.jpg)



(04 Knight Emblem Details.jpg)



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