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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-11-29 5:08 PM (#413665 - in reply to #413659)
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Well, "good looking" is a matter of interpretation ! laugh:

... but yes, it has come a long way. It is a few K away from finish paint, then we can do the interior
and hang the trim and it will be the embarrassment of the civilized world again !

I am reminded of a snooty little b!tch friend of my sister, who pitched a royal fit over her mother
picking her up from school is a very decently preserved 67 Firebird convertible because her friends
might see her in or near it. She repeatedly pitched the same fit over the moss on the roof of their
home, lest her friends see that and associate her with the kind of scum that allows moss to grow on
their roof (?)

What would that sweet little princess think of my Plaza ?
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garrettwilson30
Posted 2013-11-29 8:40 PM (#413703 - in reply to #267400)
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Lol!! Have you come to a final decision on the interior?
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Powerflite
Posted 2013-11-30 12:10 AM (#413731 - in reply to #413665)
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There was a '70 Barracuda for sale not too long ago that was going for $2000. It looked TERRIBLE. The roof was smashed in, the front end had been in multiple fender benders, the doors were bent, and the whole car leaned to one side a little with parts barely hanging on etc. Looked like it had been to hell and back, and someone was obviously still driving while it was in bad shape because that kind of damage doesn't occur all at once. I was seriously considering purchasing it to get it running, make the windshield work and drive it to car shows - as is. I would call it "Shaker". Park next to all the $200k hemicudas and hang out with the E-body crowd. They would have loved me. It would have been worth it just for the reactions. I wonder if they would end up sueing me for loss of property value.

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-11-30 1:25 AM (#413740 - in reply to #413703)
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We call those "Mad Max" cars in my circles.

The interior is all purchased and ready to assemble ... fabrics, door panels, floor mats,
instrument cluster, steering wheel. Look back in this thread and you'll see all the goodies.
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henricthornsund
Posted 2013-12-26 6:55 AM (#418475 - in reply to #267400)
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Nice work, Brent. Are you going to run blackwall custom super cushions and doggies on her?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-12-26 11:16 AM (#418499 - in reply to #418475)
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Yes, Sir !

4 doors, Buzzard Puke Green paint, no side trim, no mirrors, body colored wheels, blackwall Super
Cushions, and dog dishies !
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henricthornsund
Posted 2013-12-26 3:39 PM (#418540 - in reply to #418499)
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Thats very cool! Your car reminds me of the first 58 i hunted, same specs as yours only in belvedere form, i passed on the deal. I do regret it though, as it would have been a nice complement to my convertible, i can only imagine the sight of them two parked next to each other at my driveway keep up the good work! see link: http://hasselsvensson.se/Plymouth%20bilar/58/pl58_36.htm
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-12-26 5:12 PM (#418548 - in reply to #418540)
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I look forward to having the DeSoto and Plymouth parked side-by-side in the shop for that same
reason, ... bookending the top shelf and bottom-of-the-barrel offerings one might have found at
their friendly DeSoto-Plymouth dealer in 1958. One probably occupied a turntable in the center of
the showroom floor, the other held a cramped spot in the back corner of the lot, waiting for Felix
Frugal to come in.
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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2013-12-29 2:00 AM (#419016 - in reply to #418548)
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Just came back to look at this thread again. I love your Plaza Doc! can't wait to see the pictures of the finished product in all it's sickly puke green glory. I'm sure you're dying to be able to tool around town in her. Hope you'll have her done soon.
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56royaldodge
Posted 2013-12-29 2:11 AM (#419018 - in reply to #267400)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-12-29 4:21 PM (#419128 - in reply to #419016)
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While I keep applying for jobs and interviewing, hoping to land something so I can unleash funds
to finish the car, our boy Robt. just seems to suffer with an endless bout of intestinal issues.
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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2013-12-30 2:28 AM (#419221 - in reply to #419128)
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Too bad there isn't money in that type of "gas",he'd be a rich man...er,Vulcan. :laugh:

Hope you land something good soon Doc.
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soiouz
Posted 2014-05-24 8:43 AM (#442119 - in reply to #267400)
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What's happening with this green beauty, doc?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-05-25 12:41 PM (#442214 - in reply to #442119)
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Not much. Took a trip out to see the car and retrieve a part for a member here, and saw it
is in primer and fairly close to paint. But with the job search in stall mode, it is just waiting.
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57Kelii
Posted 2014-10-29 3:29 AM (#460524 - in reply to #267400)
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Another 5 months have passed? Good news I hope Reminds me of the highly anticipated build of John's "Rusty" now "Toothless"
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-10-31 1:13 AM (#460643 - in reply to #460524)
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While the car is still just kinda "sitting" we ordered weatherstripping for the doors and trunk and are
gearing up to finish the paint and begin reassembly. The big push right now is to finish my shop and
the current goal is to take the project to the 2nd floor decking and lay down a membrane roof layer to
keep the wet out before the snow flies. With the place weathered-in, I can focus on other stuff.
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big m
Posted 2014-10-31 12:35 PM (#460675 - in reply to #267400)
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Thanks for the update, Doc!

---John
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-11-01 1:42 AM (#460734 - in reply to #460675)
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With my head buried in the construction of the new building, I gave up on posting much to my favorite
forums. I am currently framing in the complicated stuff around the staircase and tower support before I
can deck it and call it "game over" for the season.

The 2nd floor and roof are going to be complicated stick-builds too, and I will dedicate next spring/summer
to finishing it all the way up.

What I am really looking forward to right now is a sealed up building that can be heated, even if in one
section, so I can farkle about with my projects during the cold months.
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soiouz
Posted 2016-04-10 8:34 AM (#509058 - in reply to #267400)
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I miss following this car's restoration.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2016-04-10 11:17 PM (#509101 - in reply to #509058)
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I brought the car home last fall and just a few weeks ago jockeyed it into a longer term
storage area where it can be worked on if I wish. I need to get the parts pile organized for
long term storage so I don't lose anything, but it is home and good to see every day.

I have made a priority list of major projects and currently restoring the gutted upstairs
bathroom holds the top spot, followed by framing the 2nd floor of the front half of the shop
and weathering it in as a finished structure. Those two things done, I will be free to detail
finish the shop, work on the cars at will, or whatever I want. With the shop heated and nice
inside, I get all winter to play out there with the wrenches and welder, putting my cars back
in order. I began the final demolition of the old bathroom today. I hope to have it done by
the end of June so I can begin the work on the shop. I want that done by the time the snow
flies this November.
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soiouz
Posted 2016-04-11 8:53 AM (#509123 - in reply to #509101)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2016-04-10 11:17 PM

I brought the car home last fall and just a few weeks ago jockeyed it into a longer term
storage area where it can be worked on if I wish. I need to get the parts pile organized for
long term storage so I don't lose anything, but it is home and good to see every day.

I have made a priority list of major projects and currently restoring the gutted upstairs
bathroom holds the top spot, followed by framing the 2nd floor of the front half of the shop
and weathering it in as a finished structure. Those two things done, I will be free to detail
finish the shop, work on the cars at will, or whatever I want. With the shop heated and nice
inside, I get all winter to play out there with the wrenches and welder, putting my cars back
in order. I began the final demolition of the old bathroom today. I hope to have it done by
the end of June so I can begin the work on the shop. I want that done by the time the snow
flies this November.



Great!
It sounds like you got a lot of irons in the fire!

Keep us posted!
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2016-04-11 11:39 AM (#509131 - in reply to #509123)
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It's called "being SERIOUSLY over-extended" !!!

But a plan and a little discipline and we'll pull this through to a good place.
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firedome
Posted 2016-04-14 12:01 PM (#509378 - in reply to #509131)
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I have no doubt you'll get her done, and done well. Then the fun begins!
I wish I had a heated shop, we do have nat gas, I need one 'o them Hot Dawg things.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2016-04-14 12:34 PM (#509382 - in reply to #509378)
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The wifeperson sees all this as hopelessly beyond reach. I see it as having a vault
full of all the right stuff to fuss with when I retire (or sooner). The alternative would
be what ? NOT having all the right stuff and still working on getting my shop and life
together ?
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firedome
Posted 2016-04-24 4:12 PM (#510111 - in reply to #509382)
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That 'Flite oughta keep you busy for awhile! But if ANY car was ever worth the time & effort it's that one.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2016-04-25 12:52 AM (#510139 - in reply to #510111)
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The weather has turned, and I could not hold myself back any longer. I gutted out
the bathroom and attic space beyond, built a new support system under the west side
rafters, and cut off all the collar ties to leave the roof ready to remove. I then jumped
up top and cut the roof section loose from the rest, before pulling a giant construction
tarp over the whole thing.

I will remove the shingles, vents, and skylight and dispense to the dump, then cut the
wood structure away to make way for the full height walls and clerestory roof/windows.
Windows are ordered, so once framed they should arrive to ready sided walls and the
whole thing will look good from the exterior.

We'll leave that project at that for the summer and move to finish the shop before the
snow flies. I can finish the bath interior in the indoor comfort when the weather sours.
With the shop all buttoned up, I can then look to really working on the cars again.
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hemidenis
Posted 2016-04-25 8:25 AM (#510164 - in reply to #267400)
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Having cars it is everyone goal, but a building a shop to work on car is the real holy grail...
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2016-04-25 10:58 AM (#510175 - in reply to #510164)
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So true. Having the right tools for the job (whatever that is) makes doing the
job so much easier. Working on our cars out in the dirt can be a PITA, nevermind
how much extra effort it takes. I acknowledge this gratitude every time I work
in the front half with the concrete floor and heat. What a blessing. I am also
grateful for Arne telling me why Swedes restore old fin cars ... something about
a good shop and having something to do all winter to enjoy in the summer. I had
not quite connected the dots on that "good shop" part until he said that. It makes
the "work" part of messing with old cars fun instead of a chore.
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Powerflite
Posted 2016-04-25 1:03 PM (#510179 - in reply to #510175)
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Unfortunately, it looks like I will be doing the same thing this year. I can't take another summer of working in the sun so I will need to postpone car activity to pour cement and put up a car port. As Marvin the martian says, "Delays delays....."
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2016-04-25 3:59 PM (#510190 - in reply to #510179)
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LOL .... most guys are building shops to stay out of the rain or snowdrifts !

You will be much happier when you can work in a pleasant work place. Why a carport ?

Won't you have every crackhead trying to help themselves to your goodies and every
kitty/dog in the county trying to piss on your projects ?
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Powerflite
Posted 2016-04-25 5:06 PM (#510196 - in reply to #510190)
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It is all that is allowed because of it's proximity to the road, and it is actually better for this climate. You want the air flow to keep it cool, you just need shade from the sun. Shade temperatures are actually pretty nice, but direct rays from the Southern sun are brutal. But I won't be storing anything there, just the cars themselves.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2016-04-26 11:54 AM (#510271 - in reply to #510196)
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Roger that.

I came home last night and put in a couple hours carefully pulling the roofing off
and loading it in neat stacks on my Model T truck. We'll make a dump run when it
is all down. Got about half of it peeled before it got too dark to work, but not before
smashing a finger with the nail bar, feeling around to get the bar on the nail head.

As this relates to the Forward Look, I have two primary historical interests ... "Atomic"
50's era stuff (not just cars) and the 1860-1920-ish "steam era" Americana. As it has
worked out, the house is slowly becoming 1958, while the shop will the centerpiece of
the older stuff. Afterall, a 1958 car looks perfectly fine in a 1920's shop, but a Victorian
table looks all wrong in a George Jetson house, right ?

I am holding off with changing the counter and shower tile in the downstairs bath until
I have the upstairs one done, but otherwise, it is something that would make Neil proud.
The upstairs bath is a bare canvas that is being built especially for that final look. 2/12
canted roof, clerestory windows up high. The whole design centered on a photo the wife-
person found several years ago of a free-floating vanity counter, and we have slowly been
accumulating "parts" to put it all together.

The toilet and sink/s are 1958 Briggs in "aqua". I will do much of the trim in light finished
wood. The flooring is a wonderful speckled vinyl that looks like barf. Shower will be done
in an as-yet undetermined tile to match the aqua fixtures. And in the process of moving
these into the house, that means I get them OUT of the shop ... yippee !!!
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58coupe
Posted 2016-04-27 9:23 AM (#510340 - in reply to #267400)
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Boy Doc, what does your wife think about all your "changes" to the house?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2016-04-27 11:24 AM (#510348 - in reply to #510340)
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She's the one pushing for it !

After I finished this lamp, she's gone off the deep end again !





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b5rt
Posted 2021-04-26 8:37 PM (#611459 - in reply to #267400)
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I got to thinking about your Buzzard and looked up this thread, then noticed the date of the last entry. 5 years ago.

Since then I got my 60 done and have been reminiscing about the restoration. My tiny 2 car garage was about as small an area as I'd choose to restore a car. The garage has got a good roof, concrete floor and basic electrics with finished walls and average lighting. But there's enough room to move around with the door open. I still don't have room for a proper work bench. People ask how long it took to restore the Adventurer and I say 6 total with 1.5 waiting on the body/painter to pull his head out. There's no heat and it's not deep enough to do much so I pretty much just work on it from mid April to Oct. My R/T deserves a proper restoration but it's a good driver fun car till then. I just have to wrap my mind around tearing into another lengthy resto, and if I'm not focused on the end product I know it could go off the rails.

I'm not on here as much as I used to but enjoyed reading about and seeing the pictures of your car. Hoping the house and workshop are coming along.
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60 Imp
Posted 2021-05-05 6:40 AM (#611732 - in reply to #267400)
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This thread started over a decade ago, that old green Plymouth would be plugging a ditch somewhere by now?

Steve.
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