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FIN ME
Posted 2013-04-10 9:53 AM (#368834 - in reply to #288422)
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Your persistence will pay off, Mick!

Happy to see that you are pressing on! It will get there.

Best of luck!



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ttotired
Posted 2013-04-20 9:08 AM (#370845 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		I havnt done to much exciting stuff to the dodge lately, just getting the suff organised for the engine and trans rebuilds and I rebuilt the truck heater(what they used here in the r/h/d vesions)

But today I picked up a few odds and ends for it

The truck rear is about the size of a 20' sea container





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ttotired
Posted 2013-04-29 6:19 AM (#372547 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		Well the parts for my trans have arrived from Fatsco, so I spent some time getting 50 odd years of
dirt off of it and am about to delve into the mysterious world of the automatic.

I have never done this before, so wish me luck

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Posted 2013-04-29 8:53 AM (#372554 - in reply to #288422)
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Good luck!

You'll do fine!

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Posted 2013-04-30 4:10 AM (#372708 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		Hit a snag (typical for this car), the reverse/low band had section of the friction material fall off.

The kickdown band looked 100% better, but thats going to be done as well

The bands are on their way to Sydney (other side of the country for me) to be re lined

If I run out of tranny bits to clean, I might get onto makeing the fuel and brake lines to go to the rear

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Posted 2013-04-30 10:59 AM (#372746 - in reply to #288422)
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Posted 2013-05-10 9:32 AM (#374480 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		I got the bands back and the trans is all back together

I hope it works wont find out for a while yet





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Posted 2013-05-10 12:04 PM (#374514 - in reply to #288422)
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Posted 2013-05-25 10:15 AM (#377059 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		I am about 1/2 way through the engine now, but I have to wait for the heads and camshaft so I am doing a bit of housework.

After I got the rear springs repaired, the ride height was way up there so I took a couple of leaves out and that improved it some, but not enough, so I bit the bullet and I have taken them out again and I am going to try another set and maybe juggle leaves around a bit and see if its better.

I know I wont get it down in the weeds, but at least std ride height would be good.

I have also made and fitted a new fuel line to the tank and also made a new rear brake line, so the front to rear plumbing is done including the exhaust.

I have just put the old exhaust in for now as I want to get a new one made up, but only after its all going.

The reason for putting the old ones back in is for when I run the can in (neibhors wont appreciate the noise :)).

So basically just tinkering now untill I get the rest of my engine back

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Posted 2013-05-25 6:01 PM (#377124 - in reply to #288422)
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ttotired
Posted 2013-05-26 6:37 AM (#377179 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		I dont actually have that, but when the engine and trans become one (hopefully by next weekend) I'll take one then

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60 Imp
Posted 2013-05-26 7:03 AM (#377183 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: North Australia		Looks good Mick.

Did you completely strip the box? I have never stripped and built an auto. Done a few manuals (Tojo Landcruisers).

Are you going to check the crank to bell housing run out before you mount the auto? I checked mine before I re-mounted using just a mag base dial indicator. Mine was out .007 thou, but on advice from a member I left it alone.

I made a engine stand with an extension to support the gear box and it was still tricky lining up the box and sliding it home. Patients and a good eye is the key! It must be a bear of a job doing it with the engine in the car.

Did you do anything with the converter?

Who did the relining for you?

Thanks for the answers, Steve.



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Posted 2013-05-26 5:39 PM (#377252 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		The trans was completely stripped, I have never done one before either

Autos were always smoke and mirror things to me, and its not a job I want to rush in to do again either, But as long
as it works, I hope to not have to for a while

As for the aligning, most likely not, not sure that I could do much about it if it was out a bit?

I havnt put much thought into the reunion of the engine and trans yet, but definately be done out of the car.

When I separated the 2, there was one bell housing bolt that went from thr torque converter side into the block that meant I
had to unbolt the trans from the bell, conveter from the crank, then bell from the block.

I am still cursing the stupid that thought that was a good idea

I am leaving the converter alone, one of the few parts I am going to see how it goes

I know its a pain to get out if its stuffed, but I am starting to run out of coin and thats one corner I can cut and live with.

As for the band relining, I got them sent to Sydney by a trans place here (wouldnt tell me the name of the place) and they are apparently the only place that will do it.

They looked great and fitted perfectly.

The place here is called Driveline and just looking at their invoice, they have offices in Adelaide and Sydney as well

The cost to do the bands was just under $230.00 including the freight.
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60 Imp
Posted 2013-05-27 6:18 AM (#377303 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: North Australia		Thanks Mick.
I think it would be good money spent to go buy some long bolts, cut the heads off, screw them into the bell to guide the box onto the bell. I did this and it helped. Make sure you align the front pump drive ears with the converter.

Probably wouldn't take much detective work to i.d. the relining company. I will have a look.
Steve.
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60 Imp
Posted 2013-05-27 6:23 AM (#377304 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: North Australia		Some of the old hands might chime in here, but, it would probably be a good idea to fill the TC with a solvent and flush that sucker out. Maybe fill it up with petrol and slosh it around a few times?

Steve.
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Posted 2013-05-27 6:29 AM (#377305 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: North Australia		Mick, take a look at this too.

http://search.mywebsearch.com/mywebsearch/redirect.jhtml?searchfor=...

This weekend gone I mounted one of these up along with a cooler into my Imperial. The OEM lines are 5/16, so I bought the cooler and filter in 3/8 to minimise fluid flow reduction.

Steve.
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Posted 2013-05-27 9:03 AM (#377316 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		Thanks for the advice Steve

The guide bolts would be a good idea as is the filter

I might end up with a remote oil cooler, but not sure where I am going with the radiator yet.

To be honest, I cant remember if it was any good , I dont recall it leaking, but with the rust that was in the block and heads, its going to have to be stripped and cleaned at least.

The other option is an allo one, but I havnt looked into them yet

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Posted 2013-05-28 8:55 AM (#377482 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		I got hold of a set of wheels tonight, so I had to try one on





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Posted 2013-05-28 1:16 PM (#377532 - in reply to #288422)
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Posted 2013-06-01 5:17 AM (#378284 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		Engines pretty much together

Just a few small jobs and it can be re united with the transmission





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FIN ME
Posted 2013-06-01 8:22 AM (#378306 - in reply to #288422)
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Looking good, Mick!

Your tenacity and impressive talents are evident!




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Posted 2013-06-01 9:28 AM (#378329 - in reply to #378306)
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Location: Upper Hunter NSW Australia		.......

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I really like that color Mick

I guess you got that crack repaired in the quad intake ?

With the rear leaves, instead of mucking around with individual leaves could you have a set of lowering blocks made with longer U bolts to lower it ?

A lot less trouble than fiddling with the springs.

Lowering blocks are legal over here in Nuisance Wales ( NSW ) which is surprising since NSW is probably the most anti modified car rule state in OZ.

And I'm lovin' those wheels, nice sorta '60's period ones

That car's going to be a real head turner !!!


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Posted 2013-06-01 6:39 PM (#378424 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		I will most likely go lowering blocks, but the licencing people over here can be painfull, so the less they question, the better

I am going to try to have it in the car by the end of the w/e

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Posted 2013-06-02 6:52 AM (#378501 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		Got it together and in today :)





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1956DeS
Posted 2013-06-02 10:43 AM (#378530 - in reply to #288422)
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Posted 2013-06-03 7:46 AM (#378697 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		I will have to get into some more panelwork now so I dont get tempted to get it running

See how long that lasts

I have already set the throttle linkages up

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Posted 2013-06-08 5:39 AM (#379743 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		Didnt last long,its now running after a lot of pestering dramas, mostly with core plugs not staying in

I have yet to see if the trans is ok yet (it is turning unloaded)

I am going to fit the park brake so I can see if it stops turning with the brake on and then see if it gets a gear

Be another week befor that happens though (I think)

But, it sure sounds good (fantastic actually) except for an exhaust flange leak.

Just waiting for a new system to turn up from the US (cheaper than getting one made here)

Might make a video tommorow (maybe)

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Posted 2013-06-08 6:25 AM (#379750 - in reply to #288422)
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Posted 2013-06-08 8:07 AM (#379770 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: North Australia		Mick, fer chrisakes, slow down! You're making the rest of us look lazy!

Actually I have been working hard on my Imp. I am close to the first start up (after re-build) too. I am on hol's now and took a few days to go fishing at my shack to get my head together, now back in the shed screwing the Imp together. I've set myself a deadline to get it roadworthy in two months.

Looking real good Mick, that power plant is going to make you grin when you get to feel it through your pants!

Steve.

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Posted 2013-06-08 11:10 AM (#379796 - in reply to #288422)
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Keep up the progress reports, they're great!

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Posted 2013-06-09 7:46 AM (#379895 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		Put the cragars on today, well a second (second hand) set I got that has tyres already

I can now choose between 14 and 15" or a combination of both

These ones are 15x8 on the rear and 14x6 on the front

The tyres are 15x235x70 rears and the fronts are 14x205x75

I got these mostly to see how big I could go on the back and these are the limit (only just fitted under the lip)





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FIN ME
Posted 2013-06-09 12:51 PM (#379926 - in reply to #288422)
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I like that tire/wheel combo, Mick!

You are one busy bee!

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Posted 2013-06-09 4:28 PM (#379949 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Michigan		Did you sort out the tranny? Noticed a few posts back that you had the trans turning with no load on it. Mine did that in neutral as well. It tends to turn a little without being in gear. If I rev my engine in without the brake on it will rock the car forward. It won't actually move but there is a little bit of push from the trans even in neutral. While I was running mine on the stand, before I put it in the car, I could grab the brake drum on the trans and stop it from turning.

Keep up the great work Mick it looks very nice with that electric blue and silver color combination.

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Posted 2013-06-09 6:38 PM (#379965 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		Thanks Fin me
The rears would be better in a 60 series, there juts a bit tall

I dont know about the tranny yet, I want to finish the brakes first before I put the tail shaft in.

Be terrible to watch it drive itself away

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Posted 2013-06-10 5:41 AM (#380035 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		Just as an asside, 1960wbdart asked for pictures of my tow hitch so here they are





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ttotired
Posted 2013-06-10 5:55 AM (#380037 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		It was mounted with 2 plates with 3 holed drilled into them and then drilled through the trunk floor and rear rails.

It did pull the floor in a bit, so when it goes back on, I am going to make up tubes to make the area stronger for the bolts to go through.

If you are not keen on trying to make your own, you could measure the width of the rails and how thick they are and go to somewhere that
sells tow bars and see if there is something thats close to it.

I would feel happier doing that if it was me (wouldnt worry about how good my welds were)

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Posted 2013-06-10 10:11 AM (#380073 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: North Australia		Mick, looks like it's almost ready for a test drive around the block? Keep those progress photos coming.

Steve.

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Posted 2013-06-12 5:40 AM (#380424 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		Yeah, not quite Steve (love to though)

I have a seat and stuff comming from John (Big M) that will help on that score as I am to short to see over the dash without it

Oh wait a sec, thats right, no dash either

Might have to start putting some thought and effort into that one though, which means I will have to get started on the wiring as well.

Even as an auto elec, its still a big job to totally re wire a car, especially if you want a few extra things as well

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Posted 2013-06-12 8:31 AM (#380439 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: North Australia		A full rewire on a car is a daunting task. Are you going to purchase a loom to kick off, or roll your own? I spent hours today (on hols!) laying out the original loom under the bonnet of my 60 and hooking up all I could. I have added electronic ignition (mopar orange box) and a 75 A alternator. I have also fitted a new loom for the headlights using a double relay and using the original wiring for the triggers. It all actually worked out OK, as the original stuff is still in good nick. Only a couple of strays left! I am still to work out the ballast wiring and the original generator regulator 'battery'' wire. I have replaced the heavy cables to the starter and earth leads. I think I need to bypass the amp meter on the dash for safety. The proof is when I hook up the battery leads I guess.

I have been referring to the Imperial website and MADElectrical for tech info. I might need your help yet Mick.

http://www.madelectrical.com/electrical-tech.shtml

Steve.

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Posted 2013-06-14 4:24 AM (#380805 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		Had a spare couple of hours today, so I made an aircleaner nut





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Posted 2013-06-14 7:29 AM (#380827 - in reply to #288422)
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Posted 2013-06-14 11:50 AM (#380863 - in reply to #380805)
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Posted 2013-06-16 7:38 PM (#381287 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		Car moved under its own power for the first time in ages

I drove it forward and back about an inch

Now I really am hanging for my stuff to turn up from my shipper

Theres a bench seat in there for the car

Best get stuck into the dash so the steering column gets some support

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Posted 2013-06-16 7:53 PM (#381292 - in reply to #288422)
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Posted 2013-07-05 8:56 AM (#384367 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		Took a while to work out how to do this, but got it on utube thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=d3EbN5Bq7Lc

It sounds a bit funny because the l/h exhaust flange wont seal up

I have to dig out another manifold because the flange is not that flat



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Posted 2013-07-05 10:13 AM (#384384 - in reply to #288422)
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Pretty good vid for a first timer!

Sometimes it's real easy to tell that car is loved by the detailed nature of the work - like yours.

Good on ya......she's going to be a beauty.....almost there!
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Posted 2013-07-06 1:02 AM (#384511 - in reply to #288422)
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Looks great! Sure do like those Cragars on there!
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Posted 2013-07-08 8:05 AM (#384809 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: UK		Amazing work there Mick. I'll have to bite the bullit and smarten mine up a little.
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Posted 2013-07-20 8:50 AM (#386593 - in reply to #288422)
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Location: Perth Australia		I am working on the front sheet metal and dash now, so with those parts, there seems like there is 1000 little nut, bolts ,screws ect and all of them are rusty to some degree and it has sort of one of the reasons I have been avoiding doing them, anyway I was looking at ultra sonic cleaning and stuff and remembered about electrolysis

I have set up a tub with a few bits of re bar, made a mesh basket and thrown some of the bolts and stuff in and hooked up a battery and a charger to pickle overnight

So far it seems to be working, the water and washing soda mix has turned a lovely rusty orange

I have put a door striker in there as well that has paint on it to see if the paint will also come off (thinking bigger tank and door paint removal here)

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EricDownunder
Posted 2013-07-22 8:54 AM (#386913 - in reply to #288422)
Subject: Re: My Barn Find


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Location: Australia		Love what your doing Mick, I am doing a similar thing to my 61 Phoenix. Could you tell me what dizzie you used and and what the calibrations are for the Edlebrock's, this stuff I know little about. Saw your video and loved it, thats what I am aiming for.
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