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earleebob
Posted 2013-03-20 6:10 AM (#365521 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		Hi Grant thanks for the post. Unfortunately my workshop is not equipped to reset springs and such. However all is well as it is well on the way to repair. I bought my front screen locally in SE Qld at Beenleigh. The rubbers (gaskets) I bought from Jeff Nichols and they were pretty good. I chose to use propylene glycol to soften up the rbbber by painting a layer on each day and letting it soak in. I am sure glycerol would work as well. Both screens are finally in and so more of the jewellery can be applied to the outside.

The steering wheel is now in undercoat so I am hoping it will be finished by the end of the week.

We finally attached the door rubbers we got from Atlas Obsolete. Not the easiest guy to deal with but the rubbers were spot on. Especially good was that they didnt cause the doors to bulge like the previous lot.
It is getting close now!!!!!!!!
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Beltran
Posted 2013-03-20 10:35 PM (#365644 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Michigan		Bob, I got a good used cable from Big M and then recovered it with the shrink tubing from Gary Goers. It works and looks just like new.
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earleebob
Posted 2013-03-20 11:05 PM (#365653 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		Thanks old mate that is certainly worth a try. As you can see I have the whip out in the hope the car will be finished for Easter.. so unfortunately nothing has been started on project 55. It is however rollen round in their heads and shouldnt take too long once they get started!
Bob
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Beltran
Posted 2013-03-21 7:21 PM (#365788 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Michigan		No problem. I thought there might be some questions but when they can get to it, they get to it. Oh and I found this today. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221204088338&ssP...
A bit on the pricey side.
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earleebob
Posted 2013-03-22 12:34 AM (#365840 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		Thanks Mark, I did manage to get a couple of these made in South Australia some time back. They needed to be a foot longer as the buttons have been moved to the correct side of the car! I have PMd Big M who is looking into a speedo cable for me.
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ToMopar
Posted 2013-03-24 10:20 AM (#366127 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: D-70199 Heslach		Hello Bob

I've seen you changed your profile picture to a "bad" car.................

For the speedo cable, I found out, that the 57 Desoto speedo cable had the same thread's (on both sides) as the later muscle cars w/ 727 for example the 68 Charger, but no idea if there is a longer "downunder" version available.

BTW, could you tell me if Jeff Nichols had a shop or something like that, because I need a new windscreen seal for my Fireflite, too.
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earleebob
Posted 2013-03-24 6:51 PM (#366160 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		Tom thanks for the tip on the cable. the member who sold me the windscreen rubbers is fast59desoto aka Jeff Nichols.
is this photo more pleasing (and do you know what it is???)
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Ray Bell
Posted 2013-03-24 6:57 PM (#366161 - in reply to #301594)
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earleebob
Posted 2013-03-24 7:15 PM (#366163 - in reply to #366161)
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Ray Bell - 2013-03-25 8:57 AM

Some kind of old BMW?

Ha Ha ..... cheat!
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Posted 2013-03-26 10:41 AM (#366378 - in reply to #366160)
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earleebob1 - 2013-03-24 11:51 PM
is this photo more pleasing (and do you know what it is???)


The Charger was pleasing! No idea, what the new profilephoto is, maybe an australian vauxhaul? But it could be something english too, because of the 7" headlights and the Lucas Indicators. Looks similar to Morris Minor.



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earleebob
Posted 2013-03-27 8:13 PM (#366686 - in reply to #366378)
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earleebob1 - 2013-03-24 11:51 PM
is this photo more pleasing (and do you know what it is???)


The Charger was pleasing! No idea, what the new profilephoto is, maybe an australian vauxhaul? But it could be something english too, because of the 7" headlights and the Lucas Indicators. Looks similar to Morris Minor.


Close Tom but no cigar! Ray Bell was referring to the power transplant. It is an Ozzie car which looked more like a Morris Minor than a '50s Vauxhaul. The Lucas indicators were a an after-market addon. These cars were so basic they didn't even come with a swaybar!!



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Beltran
Posted 2013-03-27 8:48 PM (#366693 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Michigan		Is that Straight 6 driving the picture above with the car that has the front wheels lifted? Holy cow! Where did you hide the supercharger?
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earleebob
Posted 2013-03-27 10:47 PM (#366716 - in reply to #366693)
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Beltran - 2013-03-28 10:48 AM

Is that Straight 6 driving the picture above with the car that has the front wheels lifted? Holy cow! Where did you hide the supercharger?


That there Mark is a bulk stock 450HP BMW M3 double vanos NORMALLY ASPIRATED engine out of an E36 M3 tuned to the raged edge. It runs a BMW Getrag Schmahl 6speed box and a Motec M800 engine management system. She does the quarter in 12.8 sec.

It is one of my favourite daily drivers. It is quicker than my GT2 Turbo Porsche to 60 MPH @ 3.6 sec! This car is equally at ease on the race circuit but a challenge to get round corners!

There was just no more room in the motor bay for power steering or A/C... let alone a supercharger! Alot of work, time and effort (and money) went into designing and making this unique beast over a 3 year period.
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craigt
Posted 2013-03-28 4:36 PM (#366805 - in reply to #366716)
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Location: Castlemaine Victoria Australia		Bob, are you using the original FJ king pin front end or a HR ball joint front end?
Maybe if you want to make it handle and stop better visit here: www.rodshop.com.au
We make a new front end with tubular arms, rack and pinion, 330mm rotors, 4 piston willwood callipers and fully
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Ray Bell
Posted 2013-03-28 6:07 PM (#366815 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia		And waste good money?

That could be spent on his De Soto or the boats?
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earleebob
Posted 2013-03-28 7:37 PM (#366830 - in reply to #366805)
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craigt - 2013-03-29 6:36 AM

Bob, are you using the original FJ king pin front end or a HR ball joint front end?
Maybe if you want to make it handle and stop better visit here: www.rodshop.com.au
We make a new front end with tubular arms, rack and pinion, 330mm rotors, 4 piston willwood callipers and fully
adjustable coil overs.

G'day Craig, the Jay already runs a highly modified HR ball joint front running 320mm family pizza plates off an M3 with Brembo 6 pot calipers. Stopping is not a problem infact when I hit the pix at the end of Willowbank Raceway back straight the rear wheels are only just toiuching the ground. Queensland Transport were very happy with the build but drew the line at altering the rear end. Dont get me wrong, that FJ handles well but there is more metal above the door handles than in the whole of my porsche!!!
The front sway bar is as big as a baby's arm and the car by choice does not run a rear one. Last year in the days of thunder shoot out my XY race car expired so I took the Jay out to compete in the final 8 lap race after it was successfully scrutineered.
I had to start at the rear of the grid behind V8 TRoranas, Comaros and early GT Falcons- all on slicks. I was on DOT treaded Kumo 700s. In the 1st lap I was able to get to the front until their tyres warmed up. As the laps progressed to began to mow me down and by the final lap I finisned 3rd and was clapped into the pits by the scrutineers.

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Posted 2013-03-29 1:12 AM (#366851 - in reply to #366830)
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I had a '54 FJ special many years ago and dad had a '54 special in the mid '60's.

I remember dad used to put a few bags of cement in the boot ( trunk ) to help stop it rolling over when going around corners a bit too quick.'spose it helped as he never rolled his J .

Thems were the days of the humpy Holden !!

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Posted 2013-03-30 6:04 AM (#367046 - in reply to #301594)
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earleebob
Posted 2013-03-31 12:59 AM (#367184 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		at last some progress on the Flite
the steering wheel hasd been painted. some issues with the spline but nothing major



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FIN ME
Posted 2013-04-01 9:02 AM (#367378 - in reply to #301594)
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Great detail work, Bob!


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earleebob
Posted 2013-04-11 9:35 PM (#369136 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		Can anyone help me out with 3 garnish mould clips like the one pictured? some how I managed to lose these three... among other miscellaneous bits over the past 5 years of this build.

If anyone in the ForwardLook family can spare them please send them in an envelope to
EarleeBob
and PM me for the address



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earleebob
Posted 2013-04-12 4:45 AM (#369185 - in reply to #361415)
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Beltran - 2013-02-24 12:23 AM

Nice! oh the masking job they must have had to do on that boat. Hey wait a minute. Where is the picture of the most important part? The FINS!!

Did Rosey make it safely through the trip in the rain?


here you go Mark, pictures of the most important part... THE FINS



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earleebob
Posted 2013-04-12 5:12 AM (#369188 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		Today I picked up my 57 Flite from the exhaust shop. It is one of those places where you just throw your wallet in and they give you the empty wallet back... but the work was top class. Great ground clearance and misses the hand brake cables etc. Can't wait to hear that subtle V8 392 hemi stereo rumble!!!!

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ToMopar
Posted 2013-04-12 7:44 AM (#369204 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: D-70199 Heslach		Hi Bob, you have a 392? Wow.
Are you sure, that between the frame and the spring is enough space for the pipe?
Anyhow, looks perfekt!! I bought my exhaust at waldron...
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Posted 2013-04-12 8:09 AM (#369205 - in reply to #369204)
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ToMopar - 2013-04-12 1:44 PM

Hi Bob, you have a 392? Wow.
Are you sure, that between the frame and the spring is enough space for the pipe?
Anyhow, looks perfekt!! I bought my exhaust at waldron...


Second that - seems like it's a close call - the tube work looks excellent!!!!
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earleebob
Posted 2013-04-12 6:35 PM (#369338 - in reply to #369205)
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wizard - 2013-04-12 10:09 PM

ToMopar - 2013-04-12 1:44 PM

Hi Bob, you have a 392? Wow.
Are you sure, that between the frame and the spring is enough space for the pipe?
Anyhow, looks perfekt!! I bought my exhaust at waldron...


Second that - seems like it's a close call - the tube work looks excellent!!!!


Yes Guys, I made the same comment myself, only time will tell when I hit a few bumps on the road, but if it hits we'll change it. There aren't too many options if Iwant to include a pipe to the bumper bar outlet. With all the challenges this car has thrown at me this is a simple one to solve!!!!!

Could always run them out in front of the rear tyres!!!!

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Ray Bell
Posted 2013-04-13 6:46 AM (#369414 - in reply to #301594)
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Unless there is a flexible section up forward of this lot to prevent it. I don't necessarily think you'll closure on the pipe.
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Posted 2013-04-13 10:46 AM (#369443 - in reply to #301594)
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Darn shiny, gorgeous car (and boat!), Bob!

They both look amazing, and to think that they are likely still a tad dusty from the shop. Stunning work.

I can't wait to see it all done SO much that my eye has started twitching.

But I'm sure that you can't wait either!



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earleebob
Posted 2013-04-23 5:35 PM (#371496 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		slowly slowly the jigsaw comes together!!



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Beltran
Posted 2013-04-23 6:00 PM (#371500 - in reply to #301594)
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Posted 2013-04-23 6:56 PM (#371507 - in reply to #371500)
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Beltran - 2013-04-24 8:00 AM

oooohhhh you must be so geeked about the progress. Looking good!. You didn't use Dynamat for sound deadning? Went with the recycled fabric option?

yes Mark thought about the dynamat but the floor was tooo nice to permanantly hide and the recycled fabric has worked on all my other noisy cars!
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Posted 2013-04-23 8:36 PM (#371516 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: D-70199 Heslach		Bob,
I like your glovebox feature





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earleebob
Posted 2013-04-23 10:08 PM (#371528 - in reply to #301594)
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earleebob
Posted 2013-04-30 9:26 PM (#372858 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		the interior is now finished and the car is off to the gearbox place for button adjustments etc



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Beltran
Posted 2013-04-30 11:13 PM (#372873 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Michigan		Stunning Bob. We need a picture of you sitting in it though, enjoying those plush seats and with a big smile on your face.
I love all the subtle details. Did your speaker grills come with the speakers you purchased or did you have to customize those as well? I would like to get something as simple and plain as yours.
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earleebob
Posted 2013-05-01 1:15 AM (#372886 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		thanks Mark, are you referring to the front speakers?

When I get a chance I will document all the subtle details in this build.

too soon for any photos of me but the smile is there and it is a mile wide.

we fired the car up this morning with the mufflers on and it is so loud we had to put paper toweling in our ears (it seem to be the forward look way! I will have to put in a couple of hotdogs in the midsection of the exhaust.

We have begun work on your gear selector and ask if you have a particular pattern for the facia as we are going to photoetch it onto the polished stainless insert?

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Posted 2013-05-01 3:32 AM (#372895 - in reply to #301594)
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While I'm excited to see this finished, I'm going to be sad the build is over. Thank you so much for documenting such an amazing build!
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Posted 2013-05-01 7:07 PM (#373032 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Michigan		I was referring to the rear deck lid picture above. The grills are sunk in and don't have any advertising on them. Some grills you see that come with the speakers take attention away from the real beauty of the interior work.

I had not thought of options on the facia there. Send me some ideas in an email and I will pick something out.
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Posted 2013-05-01 8:03 PM (#373046 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		Believe it or not those 3 speaker covers are std Chrysler issue which are all the same between '57 -'59 some have different patterns on the grille. All I did was sand them back and paint them. The centre one is a rear demister fan (also optional Chrysler issue). I'll dig up some photos.
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Posted 2013-05-04 10:04 AM (#373420 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		here are some rear grilles and surrounds from several different models to do the rear speakers plus one of the rear demister assemblies from a 1959 chrysler.



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Posted 2013-05-11 9:04 AM (#374651 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia		HERE IS TO YOU MICK!!!
The latest edition to the fleet... another Bell Boy Banshee Desota Boat. This one has many of the bling bits missing on the other two. These can now be copied and put on the restored boat. I am indebted to MICK aka known to you all as "ttotired" of forward look fame, who was kind enough to retrieve the boat in Mandrah (about 2 hours away from Perth Western Australia) and tow it back to his home in Bellveue Perth and store it for three weeks until I could arrange transport back to Queensland. It never ceases to amaze me the wonderfully helpful people in this family we call the Forward Look Forum... thanks for your generous help and friendship. Here's to you mate!

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FIN ME
Posted 2013-05-11 11:10 AM (#374661 - in reply to #301594)
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Sweet fleet you're going to have, Bob! Congratulations!

Yep, that Mick is one good egg!



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Posted 2013-05-11 7:54 PM (#374737 - in reply to #301594)
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Looks like my bird poop welding held up on the V catcher thing on the trailer

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Posted 2013-06-03 4:19 AM (#378684 - in reply to #301594)
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FIN ME
Posted 2013-06-03 8:41 AM (#378707 - in reply to #301594)
Subject: Re: where it all started for me



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Sooooooooo close! I'm crossing my fingers that you get it done in time for Coolie Rocks.

(BTW, Bob - can you sneak in a pic of your Rolls?)




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earleebob
Posted 2013-06-03 4:34 PM (#378776 - in reply to #378707)
Subject: Re: where it all started for me



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FIN ME - 2013-06-03 10:41 PM


Sooooooooo close! I'm crossing my fingers that you get it done in time for Coolie Rocks.

(BTW, Bob - can you sneak in a pic of your Rolls?)


:cool:

here you go Rosy a pic for you!!!!!!!!!



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Beltran
Posted 2013-06-03 11:11 PM (#378842 - in reply to #301594)
Subject: Re: where it all started for me



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Location: Michigan		SWEET!.. Go Bob go, go Bob Go... (Fan club cheering you and the team on!)

Although I don't know what we all will do when you finish this car. There will be such a void of excellent workmanship photo's... we are all going to get the DT's.

Oh and we need a youtube video of you starting it up so we can actually hear that engine!

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ToMopar
Posted 2013-06-04 6:20 AM (#378880 - in reply to #301594)
Subject: Re: where it all started for me



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FIN ME
Posted 2013-06-04 11:03 AM (#378930 - in reply to #301594)
Subject: Re: where it all started for me



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DA-YUM!

Hubba, hubba, that be one stunning car! Me want.

Thanks for the peek, Bob!

Wish I could take her for a spin...I tell ya, if I EVER make it back to Australia...




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earleebob
Posted 2013-06-05 7:45 AM (#379085 - in reply to #301594)
Subject: RE: where it all started for me



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