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Posted 2012-01-15 8:59 AM (#303794 - in reply to #301594)
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I forgot to mention, Bob, that I'm jealous that your pink Firesweep came with the dual rear antenna, and the "Deluxe" roof trim pieces already in place.

I've found the antennae (a miracle), but I still want the roof trim.

This is such an interesting (and amazing) thread!

Keep on a-postin'!

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Posted 2012-01-15 4:25 PM (#303854 - in reply to #303794)
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Thanks Rosy, I guess I was lucky with those (and didn't know it)!! I also noticed, while I was theiving the boot lock striker plate from the pink car, that there is a metal box behind the back seat and just visible from the boot, with what looks like radio valves and wiring to it. Does anyone know its function? Is it a collector for the aerials or some sort of booster amphlifier for the radio?? There are no speakers in the back.

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Posted 2012-01-15 4:44 PM (#303855 - in reply to #301594)
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Would that be a reverb???? Pictures?

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Posted 2012-01-16 2:41 AM (#303916 - in reply to #303855)
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Sven finally got a chance to crawl into the depths of the boot of the Pink Sweep this arvo to take a couple of pix... not much to see!

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Posted 2012-01-16 3:42 AM (#303918 - in reply to #301594)
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I think that it is a reverb - the grayish two cables goes to a speaker, or the remains of one, or hangs in the air close to a speaker position?

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Posted 2012-01-16 3:54 AM (#303921 - in reply to #301594)
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Hi, I have another question. I bought this speedometer/odometer unit on eBay and fitted it today to my refurbished dash binnacle. However i noticed the odometer numbers are red while the one Ireplaced had white letters. What car is this unit for?????
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Posted 2012-01-17 6:07 PM (#304156 - in reply to #301594)
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1957 DeSotos are correct with either the red or the white numbers. I have many pictures of both. I don't know if both versions came from the factory, or if a replacement unit had the red. either way, I'd use it.

Your restoration is TRULY an inspiration! Fantastic work. I'd vote for you for president, or maybe Raffaele in Italy (restoring the Adventurer convertible from a pile of junk)!

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Posted 2012-01-17 6:38 PM (#304158 - in reply to #304156)
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Thanks Ed, very flattering but Raffaele is my hero as he's doing all the work himself!! My job in the project is to feed the "black hole"!!!

and organize!

Regarding the red numbers, I decided to put the odometer/speedo in anyway as the white numbers were flaked and faded. And as you can see they don't look at all out of place with all that RED!!!

Bob

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Posted 2012-01-17 7:00 PM (#304163 - in reply to #301594)
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Bob, that looks fantastic

I dont think my dodge will come out as nice, but who knows, early stages still

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Posted 2012-01-17 7:34 PM (#304165 - in reply to #301594)
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As you can see we are finally in COLOUR! And I'm getting excited even though there is a fair way to go!!!!!!!

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Posted 2012-01-17 10:18 PM (#304188 - in reply to #301594)
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WOW.....

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Posted 2012-01-18 11:20 AM (#304252 - in reply to #301594)
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The painting stage is soooo exciting!

It won't be long now before it's done!

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Posted 2012-01-18 7:54 PM (#304293 - in reply to #301594)
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Going to look beautiful! Such nice metal too. Going to be like driving it out of the show room in 57.

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Posted 2012-01-18 8:47 PM (#304308 - in reply to #301594)
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Ok I have the same water pump and pulley set up on my motor. What are you planning on doing with the generator? Got any custom mount ideas you can share?

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Posted 2012-01-19 12:42 AM (#304340 - in reply to #304308)
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I was going to ask you guys that!!!!!!! We have been kicking this around all week!!
But seriously, the alternator is second easiest. I also have a power steering pump to fit (easiest) and then there's the A/C compressor!

I will be mounting the alternator in the bottom right corner as you face the motor from the front. The water pump pulley and the double V belt drive on the harmonic balancer, as supplied by the engine builder, are too close to the front face of the motor to be useful!!!

On my engine it all hinges on the water pump pulley, so we are going to find a std. shallow pressed steel Chevy pulley from the wreckers which is only about 1" deep instead of mine which is about 3" fron the front of the pump boss to the v drive. There will then be plenty of space for the alternator. Then I'll turn up a spacer to line up the 2 belt drive off the balancer. Once the brackets are fabricated and the Alt. lined up, I'll buy an aftermarket WP pulley and turn up a new double pulley. I have bought three "low mount" brackets from 'HOT HEADS' for each of the bolt-ons but these are also too close to the body. However, before I send two of them back I will make a pattern so we can fabricate our own.

The power steer bracket looks like it will work.

The A/C compressor will have to be located in the valley made by the rocker cover and the front carby and with the extra clearance produced by the modified pulleys should mount there without too much drama. Iam going to stick the radiator in temporarily to make sure there is still room with the mods.

I will keep you abreast of our progress. It will be soon though, as it is holding up assembly of the inner guards and guards on the car as we want to avoid scratching paint.

BTW all suggestions welcome.

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Posted 2012-01-19 2:04 AM (#304345 - in reply to #303794)
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Not sure if you care, but since you asked what speedo number colors were correct, thought
you might ...

Inner fender panels were never body color. Detroit cars were grey. LA cars were P&A Black.

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Posted 2012-01-19 2:06 AM (#304346 - in reply to #304345)
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Another common item painted the wrong color are the headlight nacelles. For 57 they would
be either body color or P&A Black.

For 58 They were Argent.

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Posted 2012-01-19 2:28 AM (#304349 - in reply to #304345)
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Oops! Now you tell me!!! It's not that I don't care or that I'm lazy. and it's not too late to repaint the inner guards. It was certainly debated with the Dawson boys at length and my preference was infact, iridescent dark grey as on the steering column and dash gauges! However, there are many things on this car that we didnt know (being downunder in the deep, deep south) or that are personal preferences (if you look close)!

So I do appreciate you're pointing it out, Brent and I've taken it on board. They might yet end up grey or P&A Black (what ever that is)!

Thanks
Bob

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Posted 2012-01-19 6:42 AM (#304355 - in reply to #304308)
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Mark for what it's worth I just received these lo-res images from Hot Heads showing the upper brackets. I don't think they look very pretty on the motor- more like a singer sewing machine with all the attachments going at once!

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Posted 2012-01-19 6:32 PM (#304411 - in reply to #301594)
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Ed says in another thread, no red hood springs unless you have a '57 Firesweep.

This paint is looking gorgeous...you're car has come together so quickly, especially considering all of the work involved!

You are going to be SOOOOO glad that you bought this car when you're out there, driving around and listening to all the ohhhs and ahhhs.

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Posted 2012-01-19 10:49 PM (#304442 - in reply to #301594)
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Bob,
I have looked at those brackets on HH. However, I have noticed that once you head down this path, the GM adaptions become a slippery slope. EG. Use the timing plate adaptor and GM Water pump and then you need GM Pulleys and a new radiator becuase the hose positions get swapped! Use the HH intake and you need to fabricate a mount off the intake to support the stock generator. Dump the generator and you need to get a GM alternator and power steering pump. Change those and then you have to convert from 6V to 12V!!!

All small potatoes for you I'm sure considering the work I saw on the dash to convert the car to right hand drive. But a bit more than I wanted to do to my car. I wanted to swap the engine and keep it close to original. I didn't want to completely re-engineer it.

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Posted 2012-01-20 1:46 AM (#304456 - in reply to #304442)
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Thanks Mark, I know what you're saying, sorry I couldnt be of help. I still have the original generator so I'll see what I can come up with trying to attach it to the 392 and make it look stock.

BTW I suppose I did get a bit carried away with the dash but I wanted it to look factory original but "in the looking glass".

I love this car, I love its outragous, imposing size, its Exner aerodynamic fins, its drag race bred Hemi, its sleek ageless classic lines, its Chrysler heritage and now its Brand New yet brazen appearance!!!!!! Ah! I feel good

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Posted 2012-01-22 12:20 PM (#304729 - in reply to #304340)
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earleebob1 - 2012-01-19 12:42 AM

BTW all suggestions welcome. :)

...OK...when it's all done, put the car in my name and on the next boat to Kentucky!

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Posted 2012-01-22 12:21 PM (#304730 - in reply to #304340)
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earleebob1 - 2012-01-19 12:42 AM

BTW all suggestions welcome. :)

...OK...when it's all done, put the car in my name and on the next boat to Kentucky!

(My car needs a sibling...

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Posted 2012-01-23 10:54 PM (#304987 - in reply to #301594)
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Bob, If you can do it, why not! You obviously not only have the ability but the means so more power to you! I just don't have the space to work on mine like that, at least for now... maybe in a few years. Need to move first.

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Posted 2012-01-24 4:32 AM (#305006 - in reply to #304987)
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G'day Mark, I have not had chance yet to look at your generator fitment, however I spent a couple of hours on the weekend setting up the boltons for my 392. I am fairly pleased with the positions which will require only simple brackets which Karl and I will fabricate in mild steel this week. Then we'll get them water cut in AN grade alloy. The power steer pump is represented in cardboard but I have included a pic of the compact pump/resevoir I have ordered from 'Summit Racing'.

Bob

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Posted 2012-01-24 4:50 AM (#305007 - in reply to #301594)
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The Shell and the Chassis have finally been re-united hopefully for the last time!!!! I am very pleased with the colours and the quality of the paint job. We are starting from the rear and have begun reattaching the repolished and repaired bright work and rechromed pieces to the body.

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Posted 2012-01-24 7:40 AM (#305020 - in reply to #301594)
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That looks great Bob

I wish mine was progressing like that

Times a biggy for me

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Posted 2012-01-24 8:17 PM (#305073 - in reply to #301594)
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My god that is so pretty. Ok.. time to mill throught my Summit catalog for ideas...

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Posted 2012-01-24 9:16 PM (#305081 - in reply to #305073)
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Mark the Power Steering Pump is Saginaw P Series, Universal
Summit Racing Equiptment:
Part Number: MCH-9600
Reservoir Style: Attached
Reservoir Finish: Polished
Fittings Included: Yes
Inlet Quantity: One
Inlet Attachment: Hose barb
Inlet Size: 3/8 in.
Outlet Quantity: One
Outlet Attachment: Inverted flare
Outlet Size: 5/8-18 in. inverted flare
Pulley Attachment Style: Keyway
Pulley Included: No
Pump Finish: Polished
Quantity: Sold individually.

Bob

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Posted 2012-01-24 10:00 PM (#305093 - in reply to #301594)
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Considered what radiator your going to use? The hoses changed position with that GM pump. The catalog shows options from 200 - 700 US without much description as to what your getting for your money. Interesting how the 'vintage look' are some of the most expensive cores... I think this weekend I may start dismantling the 55 so I can begin working on the engine compartment. These photos are very motivating.. even if it is 25 degrees F outside.

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Posted 2012-01-24 11:43 PM (#305104 - in reply to #305093)
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Mark, I just took the original radiator down to the local radiator shop, got them to check the core, give it a clean, panel beat the few dents out of the tanks and move the bottom inlet to the opposite side.

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Posted 2012-01-25 9:28 AM (#305122 - in reply to #301594)
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That shot of the tail is lookin' NICE!

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Posted 2012-01-25 9:34 AM (#305124 - in reply to #301594)
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Is that licence plate lighted from the back - looks cool?

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Posted 2012-01-25 9:42 AM (#305128 - in reply to #301594)
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To steal Bobs thunder

In Aus they use reflective paint on the number plates, Makes it easier when you get busted with a speed or red light camera

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Posted 2012-01-25 10:08 AM (#305132 - in reply to #301594)
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Uuurrrgghh - thats' totally uncool then!!!

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Posted 2012-01-25 1:46 PM (#305146 - in reply to #301594)
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Sorry if it's been discussed before, but what tires are you putting on the car, Bob?

PS...looking good!

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Posted 2012-01-25 11:57 PM (#305209 - in reply to #305146)
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Rosy I have 3 sets of tyres
The ones you see on the car are front: 205.60R.15 and the rears are 295.50R.15
I also have a std set which will take the original hubcaps 235.60R.14
plus a drag racing set: Hosier Front runners 25X4.5X15 and Hosier rear slicks 26X8X15

Bob

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Posted 2012-01-27 2:08 AM (#305343 - in reply to #301594)
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I have purchased a run-about 1958 vintage Forward look... ing boat to tow behind the '57 Flite to the show and shines. It should look trick when I've done it up. I'm sure there are still plenty of these Bell Boys in the States but I have been searching for one like this for some time.

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Alright, Bob ... I've sat quietly by. But now I can see you are plain "certified" !

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Posted 2012-01-27 4:47 AM (#305351 - in reply to #305348)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2012-01-27 7:14 PM

Alright, Bob ... I've sat quietly by. But now I can see you are plain "certified" !

Anything to cheer you up over there mate!!!

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Posted 2012-01-27 4:57 AM (#305352 - in reply to #305348)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2012-01-27 7:14 PM

Alright, Bob ... I've sat quietly by. But now I can see you are plain "certified" !

Excentric yes, certifiable maybe, but I'm not alone!!!

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Posted 2012-01-27 5:49 AM (#305353 - in reply to #301594)
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Darn

Now I have to buy a finned boat to go with my finned cars

Where does it end

Finned carravan? lol

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Posted 2012-01-27 7:53 AM (#305373 - in reply to #301594)
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Scotty made a camper with fins on it.

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Posted 2012-01-27 12:18 PM (#305398 - in reply to #305373)
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DANG! Love the rear "Mini-tubbed" look!!! Awesome Looking Car mate!

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Posted 2012-01-27 3:30 PM (#305421 - in reply to #305398)
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dukeboy - 2012-01-28 3:18 AM

DANG! Love the rear "Mini-tubbed" look!!! Awesome Looking Car mate!

Thanks Duke, it took a bit of engineering to make that happen and then not look obvious!!!!! thats a set on 10s under there.

Bob

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Posted 2012-01-27 7:17 PM (#305441 - in reply to #301594)
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Ya know... I always have wanted a vintage boat.... I wonder if they ever made em in wood like that. If I found one .. I don't think I would be able to control myself.. it would have to come home.. and then I would have to find a place to keep it.

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Posted 2012-01-27 9:18 PM (#305451 - in reply to #305441)
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Beltran - 2012-01-28 10:17 AM

Ya know... I always have wanted a vintage boat.... I wonder if they ever made em in wood like that. If I found one .. I don't think I would be able to control myself.. it would have to come home.. and then I would have to find a place to keep it.

Funny you should ask! this was sent to me last night by a mate who saw the thread

http://www.glen-l.com/designs/outboard/swish.html

Bob

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Posted 2012-02-05 12:57 AM (#306465 - in reply to #301594)
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Thanks to Ed Petrus I have tracked down the sister car to my 57 Fireflite in Melbourne. It is owned by an engineer, Ian who has had the car since 1997. It may upset a few purists as it is to have some mods including an under bonnet 671 huffer for his Hemi and acording to Ian, will be a blue and white version of my 'Flite. Can't wait to see it happen? Also hard to believe, his business partner David has a 57 Firedome RHD as his daily driver!!

Bob

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Posted 2012-04-03 8:05 AM (#315109 - in reply to #301594)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia

a little more glamorous than the rebuilding of the front seats is the installation of the aircon , new wiper motor and building of fuse and relay module, MSD unit and wiring harness. The original radio will be back soon with its new FM module so it can take its place in the dash.