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Carter
Posted 2012-06-16 5:14 PM (#325882)
Subject: Easy to find



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Posted 2012-06-16 11:26 PM (#325904 - in reply to #325882)
Subject: Re: Easy to find


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Posted 2012-06-17 10:34 AM (#325930 - in reply to #325904)
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Carter
Posted 2012-06-17 10:55 AM (#325932 - in reply to #325930)
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Posted 2012-06-17 1:13 PM (#325945 - in reply to #325932)
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Posted 2012-06-17 2:39 PM (#325953 - in reply to #325882)
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Posted 2012-06-17 3:16 PM (#325957 - in reply to #325882)
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Location: bishop, ca		....From the Archives (1/7/96).

To Infinity, and beyond.



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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2012-06-17 3:18 PM (#325958 - in reply to #325882)
Subject: Re: Easy to find



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Location: Plymouth Spaceport		Its hard to imagine anyone buying a new car after seeing such a stunning work of art like your DeSoto.They must live a completely hollow existance devoid of any real passion or joy,surrounding themselves with modern junk.

You would think one of those jellybean owners would see you pull up in your Forward Look and they would experience an epiphany.Suddenly they would look at their new car,then drop to their knees lowering their head in shame thinking to themselves "what a fool I have been,what was I thinking".

Your DeSoto should have its own seperate parking area to save it from the indignity of mingling with those uninspired,dull looking throw away cars. I always try and park away from others or next to a divider or tree to avoid door dings anyway.


Do you think we could get a law passed that would provide finned cars with their own special parking spaces?

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d500neil
Posted 2012-06-17 3:24 PM (#325959 - in reply to #325882)
Subject: Re: Easy to find



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Location: bishop, ca		A close-up cropping of the laugh panel wouldn't be a bad avatar for someone of the Soto persuasion.




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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2012-06-17 3:27 PM (#325960 - in reply to #325959)
Subject: Re: Easy to find



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Location: Plymouth Spaceport		Heres another "Shoe" comic I saved because of the DeSoto joke.



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d500neil
Posted 2012-06-17 3:56 PM (#325963 - in reply to #325882)
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Location: bishop, ca		That cartoon is interesting in that Jeff passed away in 2000, and well knew how to draw a 1959 DeSoto.

After his death, the cartoonist Gary Brookins made some fundamental errors in identifying and drawing the 1959
DeSoto Firedome, such as appears in your cartoon.






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d500neil
Posted 2012-06-17 4:00 PM (#325964 - in reply to #325882)
Subject: RE: Easy to find



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Location: bishop, ca		They've known how to draw (again) the 59 Soto, for a while, now.

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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2012-06-17 4:14 PM (#325966 - in reply to #325882)
Subject: Re: Easy to find



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Location: Plymouth Spaceport		I noticed that too,I was actually going to post that exact same comic!

I guess he must have caught himself later on because in some of the others he seems to get it right. Personally I think the comic should have ended when Jeff McNelly passed away,just as "Peanuts" did when Charles Schulz died. Most cartoonists works are very personal and reflect the artistic sensibiltys and personalitys of their creators.
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d500neil
Posted 2012-06-17 7:29 PM (#325977 - in reply to #325882)
Subject: Re: Easy to find



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Location: bishop, ca		I regularly post the Shoe cartoons to this website's Daily List Server (a deep dark secret society of mostly non-posters, here)
so I've followed the strip fairly closely, and can find no fault in its subjects or presentations.

His wife, Susie, is a credited editor of the strip.

My comic, above, from 1997, is an example of pure Jeff; 60's and the strip-from-today, above, are post-Jeff collaborations.

Pretty hard to determine any differences in their appearances.







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Carter
Posted 2012-06-17 7:33 PM (#325978 - in reply to #325977)
Subject: Re: Easy to find



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Location: Fargo, ND		I love Shoe! I have a bunch of old clippings in my DeSoto book. Since I am about the first one at work in the morning I always get to park next to the door so there are no cars on the immediate passenger side. There is only one parking spot on the driver's side and then a marked off area and then more parking. The fellow who parks next to me on the driver's side always pulls over into the marked area so he won't hit my car and I won't hit his. Now if I could only get him into a Forward Look!
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Posted 2012-06-17 7:36 PM (#325979 - in reply to #325882)
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Location: bishop, ca		Ok; off-subject; but I grudgingly acknowledged C. Schultz's intractability in NOT allowing any other creator to allow C. Brown
to have any semblance of a happy or rewarded life---or, even, to show us the little red-headed girl, or him hooking-up with her,
or him winning a baseball game, or him flying that kite, or kicking that football.....

Thanks for nothing, Sparky.



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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2012-06-17 11:24 PM (#326005 - in reply to #325977)
Subject: Re: Easy to find



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d500neil - 2012-06-17 4:29 PM

I regularly post the Shoe cartoons to this website's Daily List Server (a deep dark secret society of mostly non-posters, here)
so I've followed the strip fairly closely, and can find no fault in its subjects or presentations.

His wife, Susie, is a credited editor of the strip.

My comic, above, from 1997, is an example of pure Jeff; 60's and the strip-from-today, above, are post-Jeff collaborations.

Pretty hard to determine any differences in their appearances.



I agree with you,it's a very well done strip aside from some subtle differences in the art that are to be expected since it's not Jeff McNelly,and of course the brighter colors of the online strips are due to the different technology involved.

Its just my opinion,but I tend to agree with Charles Schulz and Bill Watterson,I think a comic strip should end when the creator passes on.
Both Peanuts and Calvin and Hobbes were highly personal works.Charles Schulz was Charlie Brown,Linus and the gang.The strip reflected his unique outlook on life and philosophical nature,his gentle sense of humor and insecurities,not someone elses.Yes,someone could go through the motions and imitate the style and sensibilitys of his work to some degree,but for what purpose? Why not create a new strip instead of coasting on someone elses work? Would you rather see someone else singing Buddy Holly's songs or listen to old records of Buddy himself?

The people working on Shoe now are very talented,no doubt about it and Jeff McNelly was obviously ok with the strip continuing,so it will.

I didn't know there were a bunch of Shoe comics posted here,do you have them going all the way back to the 70's? I always get a kick out of Cosmos DeSoto.

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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2012-06-18 12:34 AM (#326011 - in reply to #325978)
Subject: Re: Easy to find



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Carter - 2012-06-17 4:33 PM

I love Shoe! I have a bunch of old clippings in my DeSoto book. Since I am about the first one at work in the morning I always get to park next to the door so there are no cars on the immediate passenger side. There is only one parking spot on the driver's side and then a marked off area and then more parking. The fellow who parks next to me on the driver's side always pulls over into the marked area so he won't hit my car and I won't hit his. Now if I could only get him into a Forward Look!


HaHa! I do the same thing!

Dont worry,as he passes your car each day going to and from work,your DeSoto's Forward Look design is sending subliminal messages from the past that are slowly undermining his contemporary sensibilitys.Each day he grows more disenchanted with his modern car,music,clothes,and way of life.There will be small signs of change at first,but any day now he will finally snap and then it will happen.He will show up to work dressed like Ward Cleaver driving a Forward Look of his own and ask you if you happened to catch "Gleason" on tv last night,or perhaps recount the latest episode of "Gunsmoke" around the watercooler.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2012-06-18 1:03 AM (#326012 - in reply to #326005)
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Location: Parts Unknown		Back when I was a daily DeSoto driver, friends and co-workers fed me a constant stream of the
Shoe comics, clipped from the paper. The perpetual "joke" of the DeSoto was, in 1990, my long-
standing reason for owning one AND the general publics' basis of attitude that these were the most
horrible, icky cars to ever roll down the road. I thought the first one to be amusing, if not only for
putting the name in the public spotlight, but as the man with no name noted above, I grudgingly
thought "If readers find this so dammed funny, they must see the point. So why don't they have
the balls to get one and drive it ?" So, McNelly's humor point kinda went down like a smoking plane.

Looking at it philosophically, I was displeased he chose a 59. I never liked the 59 design and to
draw attention to that one seemed a disservice to the name for the above reasons. But from an
artistic standpoint, it is easy to understand why the 59 "got the job". The fins are far more extreme
and the overall lines are easier to parody. I have yet to see a single time when a drawing or modeling
attempt can get the subtle curvature of the headlight nacelles of a 57-58 right, leaving said attempts
looking more like a fish out of water than the car intended. The 59 has the simpler eyebrow hoods
over the headlights and the double ovoid bumper holes. Just too easy to sketch, and it still looks like
the car. The fins, same thing. In the above examples where the new cartoonist drew a non-59, the
only thing giving any indication it is a DeSoto is the three stacked lights. The fin and overall shape has
no resemblance to a DeSoto.

Disirregardlessly, It was a point of much amusement between my brother and me LONG before McNelly
ever came to my attention that driving cars like we did had the added bonus of being easy to spot in an
ocean of chewed bubble gum blobs, bars of soap, and jellybeans. However, to suffer the indignities of no
airbags, GPS, 5mph crash bumpers, and seat belts has been almost more than I can stand. I just wonder
if perhaps there is an app available where I can apply "virtual" fins to my new blob-mobile ?
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OldiesNut
Posted 2012-06-18 4:39 PM (#326094 - in reply to #326012)
Subject: Re: Easy to find



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All right cats, I can participate!

Here are all the escapades of Perfesser Cosmo FishHawk and his '59 Firedome I can lay my mitts on. If I missed any "vintage" strips, feel free to post 'em! Most of 'em are the same joke over and over, but I particularly enjoy the "De-tailed" line. Good on ya, Cosmo!

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b5rt
Posted 2012-06-18 5:19 PM (#326097 - in reply to #325882)
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Posted 2012-06-18 7:14 PM (#326102 - in reply to #325882)
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Posted 2012-06-18 7:40 PM (#326111 - in reply to #326097)
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b5rt - 2012-06-18 4:19 PM

Got any with Cosmo trying to actually repair his DeSoto himself?


Well, you saw him tryin' to find parts for it via Google Search!

Here's four more:



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Posted 2012-06-18 8:40 PM (#326117 - in reply to #325882)
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Location: Williams California		Thanks for posting those, I can remember always looking forward to seeing the DeSoto in his strips.

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Posted 2012-06-18 8:51 PM (#326119 - in reply to #325882)
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Location: bishop, ca		Here's a sampling from my collection.

The first one is my second-earliest Pure-Jeff cartoon (from 9/23/97).

The others are the Collaborationists' work; quite good execution on them.

I've even included a cautionary work, for those who do not overhaul
their single pot master cylinders....

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OldiesNut
Posted 2012-06-18 11:19 PM (#326143 - in reply to #326119)
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d500neil - 2012-06-18 7:51 PM

Here's a sampling from my collection.

The first one is my second-earliest Pure-Jeff cartoon (from 9/23/97).

The others are the Collaborationists' work; quite good execution on them.

I've even included a cautionary work, for those who do not overhaul
their single pot master cylinders....


Wow! A rare view of the Firedome from the Front! Not to mention an even rarer view of the car in motion! Flying, even!

Sure makes me glad I installed a double-pot master cylinder in ol' Charlene...manual drum brakes, but now with TWICE the stopping power!
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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2012-06-18 11:19 PM (#326144 - in reply to #325882)
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport		OldiesNut & D500Neil,thanks for posting these great Shoe comics! Poor 'ol Cosmo sure takes a lot of abuse for his DeSoto,doesn't he?
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Posted 2012-06-18 11:23 PM (#326145 - in reply to #326144)
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d500neil
Posted 2012-06-19 12:20 PM (#326182 - in reply to #325882)
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Location: bishop, ca		This is not the thread to discuss the mythology of any improved performance of a properly
operating dual-pot master cylinder over that of the OEM single-pot.

There are quite a few cartoons showing the DeSoto with its hood up, but very few showing
a view of its engine compartment.

But, just so the Dodge Boys don't feel left out, here's a possibly recognizable 1957 (or later?)
model.

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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2012-06-19 2:45 PM (#326207 - in reply to #325882)
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport		I hope Cosmo bought that 1959 Dodge too,at least that way he'd have another suitable car to drive the next time the DeSoto is in the shop...although with his luck they'd probably both break down at the same time.

I wonder how many non-Forward Look people read this strip and came away with the notion that DeSotos were in fact trouble prone piles of junk?
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Posted 2012-06-19 4:04 PM (#326211 - in reply to #325882)
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Cosmo my boy, ya got good taste.
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Posted 2012-06-19 8:32 PM (#326246 - in reply to #325882)
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport		Just in case anyone here was wondering why Cosmo was given a 1959 DeSoto in the strip,Jeff MacNelly owned one himself! (I cant find any photos of it online though)

"Along with Shoe's inspiration from a real person, Jeff found pieces of his own personality showing up in the character of "Perfessor" Cosmo Fishhawk. The cartoonist's desk is always piled high with papers and clutter, similar to the workspace of Fishhawk. (Except, Jeff's desk isn't perched on a large tree branch, of course.) Jeff made use of his wife's traits to create the sharp-witted restauranteur, Roz.

The 1959 DeSoto car that is regularly featured in the comic strip is a depiction of Jeff's car at home. The real one may have had as many troubles as its cartoon nemesis.

Jeff and his wife, Susie, made their home on a farm in Rappahannock County, Virginia, in the Blue Ridge Mountains. He worked mostly at night on his cartoons, leaving his days free to work on his barn or his DeSoto. Of his beloved farm, he said, "We leave here only for NCS events."
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Posted 2012-06-20 2:15 AM (#326278 - in reply to #326246)
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Location: Omaha, NE		I've noticed that, depending on the day, Cosmo's Firedome alternately has a boxy, slanted windshield with a triangular vent window, or a wraparound '59-'60 GM style (like my Bel-Air) windshield, complete with a curved vent window.

Cartoonists...



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