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Adventurer 60
Posted 2016-02-04 3:46 PM (#503241 - in reply to #503188)
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ToMopar - 2016-02-04 3:15 AM

Jari, nice work on exhaust, do you weld with WIG?
The stickers on exhaust tubes tells me, that the system comes from waldron...


Yes they are from Waldon. I have had them couble of years in a barn so they have collected little bit surface rust.
This time i did not take a chance. Nut is stainless and I did not have that big drill for the hole, usually nut also bends little bit while welding...
I took them to my friend, he has a metal (welding) shop and he usually helps me with demanding metal works. It's nice to have that kinda friends, Thanks MatsoMix.
I guess he (or his employee) used TIG welding
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Adventurer 60
Posted 2016-02-11 8:44 AM (#503868 - in reply to #353311)
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I've done some work with Waldons exhaust, wich almost assembled. Just need to change sinc plated clamps, Waldons were not.

I am going to need more and better clips for windshiled and rear glass trim.
Help is wanted to locate even new ones.



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Posted 2016-02-11 6:33 PM (#503913 - in reply to #353311)
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Interesting to see if you find them, I didnt

Mind you, I worked out that I needed them after I put the back window in (forgot all anout them), then had to remove it again, so I was in a rush and didnt look really hard

Ended up using what I could scrounge up from my used stuff

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Adventurer 60
Posted 2016-02-12 1:54 AM (#503941 - in reply to #353311)
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Usually these clips go crusher with the car body. No one saves them.
I've been thinking to fabricate new ones by my own hands and a Dremel, but waisting hours and hours of labor to parts that are worth few dimes or dollars... not a good idea.
Windshield trim is going to be ensured with Sikaflex anyway.
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Adventurer 60
Posted 2016-02-13 2:13 PM (#504050 - in reply to #353311)
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Exhaust hangers from Waldron were cr... not so good. I desided to blast and restore original ones.
In this pic rear ones are already done. Gotta find rubbers for those large hangers



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Adventurer 60
Posted 2016-02-14 4:48 PM (#504132 - in reply to #353311)
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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-02-14 5:50 PM (#504137 - in reply to #353311)
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Did you find new rubber?
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Posted 2016-02-15 9:20 AM (#504184 - in reply to #504137)
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NicksGarage - 2016-02-14 5:50 PM

Did you find new rubber?


There is a company in town who provides all kind of tecnical rubber for local industry and consumers.
They got almost everything to start with rubber and plastic.
I just hav'nt got time to get there yet.
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Posted 2016-02-15 4:23 PM (#504213 - in reply to #504184)
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NicksGarage - 2016-02-14 5:50 PM

Did you find new rubber?


There is a company in town who provides all kind of tecnical rubber for local industry and consumers.
They got almost everything to start with rubber and plastic.
I just hav'nt got time to get there yet.


Thanks, I'm buying a 300F and it needs some exhaust work. I haven't looked that closely at the hangers but they're probably original. I figured I'd just cut some out of some old tires.
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Posted 2016-02-16 1:33 AM (#504273 - in reply to #353311)
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I used Balata belts in my hangers - I used tire rubber before, but it became too brittle with the heat....
http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=60075&... to get the hang of it&highlightmode=1#M498750
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Posted 2016-02-16 1:59 PM (#504326 - in reply to #504273)
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wizard - 2016-02-15 10:33 PM

I used Balata belts in my hangers - I used tire rubber before, but it became too brittle with the heat....
http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=60075&... to get the hang of it&highlightmode=1#M498750


Thanks, I'll check that out. Great work on those clamps by the way.
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Adventurer 60
Posted 2016-02-28 4:18 AM (#505378 - in reply to #353311)
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Assembeld headliner yesterday. It turned into a nightmare.
First of all it spent in a box for about year or so, it had sharp fold marks wich i tried to heat out and let the headliner spent couple of months hanging straight.
Material is like sheet metal, it does not stretch at all to one direction and very little to another exept it does not react to heat gun at all, does not shrink or stretch.
Bought this form Ebay seller. Beware these are not made of proper material.

Well I got it assembled but I am not satisfied of wringles that I'm un able to strech away. I don't know if they straighten up during time being.

Then I noticed, I am missing a cirtical piece of interor trim. Small pieces on the top of A-window both sides
Anyone can help me?



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Adventurer 60
Posted 2016-02-28 4:21 AM (#505379 - in reply to #353311)
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These are the pieces I need

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Posted 2016-02-28 5:52 AM (#505382 - in reply to #353311)
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Jari, I have fixed some wrinkles on vinyl seats with an el cheapo steam generator that normally is used for cleaning home and bathroom.

The hot steam will smoothen out the fold creases and shrink the material somewhat. Work with the steamer and a soft cloth and I Think you will get a good result.

Secondly, I have those garnishes in my attic - but they're from my Saratoga so they are painted green. That means that you must chrome them.

Let me know if you are interested.........
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Adventurer 60
Posted 2016-02-28 6:24 AM (#505386 - in reply to #353311)
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Thanks for the tip Wizard. havent used that yet couse I dont own one.
I'll try to locagte stainless or chromed ones first. I'm not sure are they chromed or stainless originally.
You know chroming is a extra task.
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Posted 2016-02-28 6:32 AM (#505388 - in reply to #353311)
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Those garnishes are always normal sheet metal Jari - it's the long bows that are made of stainless.
Just take your time and check for a chromed pair, but, normally they are always rusty any which way

For to be sure that they are the same ones for 2 dht and 4dht, please take an estimated lenght and let me know - I can then measure my ones for to confirm.
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Posted 2016-02-28 7:24 AM (#505390 - in reply to #353311)
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Here is what I used for the exhaust hangers , very similar
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-66-67-68-69-70-71-Coronet-Road-Runner...
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Posted 2016-02-28 7:26 AM (#505391 - in reply to #353311)
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It took a few years for the sun to get rid of the wrinkles in the centre of our headliner from being folded up in a box for ages

It was made by "Go Liners" on ebay . Never again , I don't recommend them , they use cheap material as you say that doesn't work well .


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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-02-28 9:11 AM (#505397 - in reply to #505391)
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This picture shows the piece you need better. I'm going to be ordering a headliner from Gary Goers but I'm not going to be installing it right away. I guess I should try rolling it up instead of keeping it folded if that's how he ships it.




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Posted 2016-02-28 8:22 PM (#505437 - in reply to #353311)
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Here is a picture of those headliner trim pieces from my 300F.





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Posted 2016-02-29 1:27 AM (#505459 - in reply to #353311)
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Thanks' for the photo Nick - now I can confirm if the trim is the same for 2dht and 4dht
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Posted 2016-02-29 7:27 AM (#505466 - in reply to #353311)
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Hey Jari, great progress on the car.

Soon you will need to start a thread "My 300 G restoration just finished"!

4 years in the making!

I enjoy your updates and I am looking forward to seeing the finished car.

Steve.

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Posted 2016-02-29 8:58 AM (#505471 - in reply to #353311)
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Jari, thanks' to Nicks photo I can confirm that the moldings are the same for 2 dht and 4 dht.

This mean that you have a wider span for your serch; the New Yorkers 2 dht and 4 dht had the chromed ones, as well as the 300 F & G, the Saratogas and Windsors had painted ones with the exception of Canadian Saratogas which also had chromed mooldings.
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Posted 2016-02-29 9:05 AM (#505472 - in reply to #353311)
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Thanks for the info guys!
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Posted 2016-03-03 2:01 AM (#505711 - in reply to #353311)
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Checked my phone and found a number of another fwl-mopar guy, bought some parts from him almost 15 years ago. He got those trim parts, (stainless he said) and we made a deal. Then we talked about his very very extremely rare forward-look export model 2D wagon!
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Posted 2016-03-06 6:33 AM (#505969 - in reply to #353311)
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It was time to restore window channels. I found just right material from the local "K-mart". It is called hook and loop tape Well I just used loop tapes wich are just perfect fot this purpose. Lots of careful michroscopic gluing thou.




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Posted 2016-03-06 6:37 AM (#505970 - in reply to #353311)
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For rear door window channels I used thicker mohair fabric that is designed for this purpose.





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Posted 2016-03-13 4:30 PM (#506701 - in reply to #353311)
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Something went wrong?



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Posted 2016-03-14 12:59 AM (#506736 - in reply to #506701)
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Something went wrong? :)


Does the other side say 330 G?
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Posted 2016-03-14 5:45 PM (#506838 - in reply to #353311)
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I made a silicone mold couple years ago to cast trunk lid emblems. First polyester clear resin produced very clear but fragile emblems wich were impossile to polish.
Friend of mine gave me a little bottle of another type resin, so I tested it. Well see when its totally dried.

Did'nt find any windshield trim clips, so I tried to make one my self. Actually it took only about 10 to 15 minutes to make the first one and it seems working.
So I'll get some better sheet metal (stainless) and bend and dremel all of them



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Posted 2016-03-14 6:26 PM (#506842 - in reply to #506838)
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That would be a great solution to make those clips out of stainless. Nice.

Edit: I think you would need to make them from a hardenable stainless so that they will be springy after heat treating them.

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Posted 2016-03-15 2:37 AM (#506905 - in reply to #353311)
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Great Jari - those clips are difficult to find and when found they're rusted in different degrees. Stainless will most probably work just fine.
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Posted 2016-03-20 7:16 AM (#507373 - in reply to #353311)
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Good news! I found the clips for windshield trim from this treasure shop
http://www.nippelit.fi/1st/html/default.asp?id=675&p_id=672&editmod...

Bad news. I bought them all what they had in stock




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Posted 2016-03-20 12:29 PM (#507392 - in reply to #353311)
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Very good find.
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Posted 2016-03-29 4:41 PM (#508241 - in reply to #353311)
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Well I got something done during Eastern time. Cleaned up power seat system, lubed all gears and theet, painted a whole thing. Motor was shot, moved only forwards, thank god I got one working motor for spare. one solenoid in transmission was broken, I was able to fix it. One lower rack was totally rotten, Had one for the spare. Switch was totally shot, I had one ruined for the spare missing one contact. Now I have 4 way seat insted of 6 way and my other PS is incomplete parts lot Gotta find one switch more.

I also covered floors with sound deadner.
Drilled holes for drain tube hoses in trunk compartmet. Now water will never leak to tunk floor and rust it.




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Posted 2016-03-29 4:49 PM (#508242 - in reply to #353311)
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This is what was left of rear panel behind the rear seats.
I can hardly use it as a template.
Hat shelf is from some other car maybe from sedan, and I do not have a glue how these panels joint together.

You F and G coupe owners, would you post me a close up photos of hat shelf and how it joints to this panel?

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Posted 2016-03-29 5:21 PM (#508245 - in reply to #353311)
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If nobody else does it, I'll take some pictures on Friday and post them. I don't think the two are joined together.
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Posted 2016-03-30 2:13 AM (#508290 - in reply to #353311)
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Yeah, thas what I want to know. I have to make new hardboards and make them look like originals. It seems like something has been ripped of from the rear panel.
Thanks Nick, your help will be appreciated
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Posted 2016-04-02 2:16 AM (#508566 - in reply to #353311)
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Here you go. The package shelf material wraps over the rear deck and then the carpeted panel just seems to lay on top of it. I have another rear carpeted panel in storage from my old car. I can get it and take some pictures of it if needed. Also it looks like the trim pieces at the base of the roof have had the screw holes broken out on the side and the put new ones in pointing down. I'll have to dig up my other ones and see what they look like.




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Posted 2016-04-02 2:19 AM (#508567 - in reply to #353311)
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Also, what's ripped from the middle of your panel is the 300 gear emblem.




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Posted 2016-04-02 3:12 PM (#508598 - in reply to #353311)
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I just checked at my 300F the rear panel with the 300 emblem. I can confirm that it's like the carpet at the floor, cut not loops. The hight is about 1/5 inch or 5 mm (estimated, not measured).The seam is at the carpet covering the rear panel, at the top and at the lower end around the tunnel of the propeller shaft. The lower end of the carpet is about 5 to 6 cm longer than the panel and folded. This end was under the floor carpet in my 300F.

Thanks to the pictures of Nick I found two parts I sorted out for to sell. These are the chromed mouldings at the side of the C pillar at the parcel shelf. The parcel shelf material at my 300F is black at the top and shows the same color at the rear side (like tan). But it's rotten and falls in pieces.

 

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Posted 2016-04-02 8:57 PM (#508623 - in reply to #353311)
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My floor carpet was replaced by a previous owner. The rear panel carpet is original. They got the carpet from the 300 club back in the 1990s. These are the carpet panels for the console that came from the club.




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Posted 2016-04-03 10:22 AM (#508661 - in reply to #353311)
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Thanks for the pics guys. So it its basket wave material that covers the shelf. Where I'm gonna get that?
Is it also similar in G than F?
Nick, the emblem in the middle is different in G. It is like a hub cap center piece only pot metal piece is little pit flatter. I am missing it too
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Posted 2016-04-04 1:06 PM (#508730 - in reply to #353311)
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I was able to find this kind of fabric, made of cotton and polyester. Its not totally black but hey, I can spray satin black paint on it. It might work nice. But they have about 4 week delivery time and lenght WISE I gotta order 3 times more than I need.

Sold my 59 Dodge pick up truck yesterday, got some cash and started planning little US-trip immediately.
Pomona swap 17th april, Carlisle next week from that...



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Posted 2016-04-04 1:45 PM (#508734 - in reply to #353311)
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I bet there's some guys here that might be interested of that material Jari
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Posted 2016-04-10 4:56 PM (#509077 - in reply to #353311)
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I have left my 300 G Project resting for few weeks. Been busy with all kind of stuff and extra work. I sold my 59 Dodge truck and got some cash, Next friday I am going to leave for California. Visit Pomona swap, and my friends there. Next week to Carlisle spring swap.
We'll see if I found something.
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Posted 2016-05-14 4:08 PM (#511564 - in reply to #508734)
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wizard - 2016-04-03 7:45 PM I bet there's some guys here that might be interested of that material Jari ;)

Yes. I am. Dieter

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Posted 2016-07-29 11:50 AM (#517891 - in reply to #511564)
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di_ch_NY56 - 2016-05-14 4:08 PM

wizard - 2016-04-03 7:45 PM I bet there's some guys here that might be interested of that material Jari ;)

Yes. I am. Dieter



I will cut and paint material for two cars and if the result is fine i will let you know.
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Posted 2016-07-29 11:56 AM (#517892 - in reply to #353311)
Subject: RE: My 300 G restoration just started



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I have done absolutely nothing for my project for almost 4 months exept found some parts.
Now I started a battle with windows and regulators to get them back on their places.
It took quite many hours to get driver door windows and regulator working but it works now smoothly.
I hope passenger door will be much easier.

Missing all stops for all windows. Anyone got extras? would´nt like to fabricate them from straight steel



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Posted 2016-08-13 2:15 PM (#518976 - in reply to #517891)
Subject: Re: My 300 G restoration just started



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Adventurer 60 - 2016-07-28 5:50 PM
di_ch_NY56 - 2016-05-14 4:08 PM

wizard - 2016-04-03 7:45 PM I bet there's some guys here that might be interested of that material Jari ;)

Yes. I am. Dieter

I will cut and paint material for two cars and if the result is fine i will let you know.

Thanks a lot

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