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Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Going to start a dedicated thread to the restoration of the DeSoto. I have owned this particular car since the early 90's. I had been building a basket case 58 Adventurer convertible for years and found this car in my search for parts for the Adventurer. When it came up for sale I sold the Adventurer project and dumped all my energies into a far more complete car. After a couple busy months of work on the Fireflite, it was a pretty presentable driver and after so many years of hunting unobtainium parts to build the Adventurer, I was happy to just enjoy the Fireflite "as is" for a while before really doing it right. The car was together and driven regularly for about 9 months, including a cross-country trip before a drugged driver rear ended me as I sat at a red light. The car was immediately torn down to the frame and a new body was built around a pile of rust-free parts I had saved, but life got in the way before I had the body completely back together and the poor car has been mothballed and moved about from place to place for 15+ years. Last week I began digging the shop out and figured it would be fun to look back from the very beginning and see how this progressed from the start. It will start slow, as the priority is to finish the 58 Plaza, but in doing that work, some work will push forward on the DeSoto as a matter of doing the Plymouth. Photos to follow. | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Brent, it will be nice to see your Desoto restoration. Are you back over here for good or are you going back? | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I am finished. Got hurt out at al Pasab and that pretty much set the wheels in motion for "game over". | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7805 Location: Williams California | Doctor DeSoto - 2013-07-17 8:39 AM I am finished. Got hurt out at al Pasab and that pretty much set the wheels in motion for "game over". Glad to have you back, Brent. ---John | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | Cool. Your gonna miss the burkas right? | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | Welcome back, Doc! Now get those pictures going! Let's see some Re Soto-ation in progress! | ||
Boris56 |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 394 Location: Royal Oak, MI | Thank you for your service, Doctor. Good luck with the DeSoto restoration. | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | IT mind needed ! While I was deployed, the wifeperson got herself an HP Photosmart Plus scanner and dialed it in to her Mac desktop computer. Since demobilizing, I found one of my boxes of old car photos and thought I'd carry out on a threat to tease you guys with car spotting photos from the old days. Here's the rub .... I scan the photos to her desktop, I then send an email to my computer with the photos attached and place in a desktop folder. From there, I post the photos to the Forward Look site, where I am told that the photos are successfully uploaded. Everything looks great EXCEPT the photos do not show !!!! It shows them in the post as being downloaded. It shows the extension code, etc. Just no photos ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As a matter of reference, if I had photos of the Plaza work sent to me from the restoration shop, I could download and post with no issues. If the same email from the restoration shop were sent to the wifeperson, and then forwarded to me in AFG, it had the same issue. I called a super-mac fan and asked for advice this AM and then went back in to check some settings on the wifeperson's computer such as sizing, Windows-friendly, and extension settings, and all looks OK. Sent a test run and still a no-go. Ideas ???? | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Kudos to Bigblkmopar for figuring out that the wifeperson's computer mysteriously adds a non-functional "jpeg" extension (not accepted by the FL site software) instead of a "jpg" which apparently allows the FL site software to read the photo and show it, instead of just showing the linked attachment. Out of curiosity, can anyone see this photo without clicking on the link ? Or can you open the link at all ? Attachments ---------------- 58 Ply's and 60 Flite .jpeg (91KB - 771 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1140 Location: Blackpool, United Kingdom. | Cannot see photo without downloading it? (58 Ply's and 60 Flite (1).JPG) Attachments ---------------- 58 Ply's and 60 Flite (1).JPG (51KB - 743 downloads) | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Thanks. That's what I thought. | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | The Forward Look site is very archaic, by internet forum standards. As stated, it does not allow .jpeg files to be viewed in their native state, but it does allow them to be uploaded and downloaded for viewing. Which is strange, because the Joint Photographic Experts Group, which created the image compression standard that we know collectively as "jaypeg" intended the .jpg .jpeg file types to be interchangeable (along with a couple of others). The intent was to continue to allow Mac and Unix operating systems to use four-digit file extensions, while also supporting early Windows systems which used the 8.3 file naming convention (a maximum of eight character file names, and three character file types). ------Long story short, .jpg and .jpeg files are one and the same.------ Brent, I recommend saving them as .jpg files when you perform the scan. I am 99.9999% certain this will be an option in the file save settings of your scanner software. I find it a little strange that its default is .jpeg anyway. That said, the black Desoto in the background is mighty tasty. Keep em coming! Edited by 57burb 2013-07-23 10:37 AM | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | All under control. Just been super busy doing job search stuff. That black Fireflite is the 383 crossram, 3-onda-floor car. | ||
Chrys 68 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 673 Location: Malung, SWEDEN | More 1958 Fireflite Convertible pics please! | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I have put this on a back burner .... was having problems with my scan sizing. Let's see how this works ..... Photo taken on the farm where I bought a 58 Coronet Spring Special coupe. I think that would have been 1996 ? (Skagit Farm 1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Skagit Farm 1.jpg (50KB - 728 downloads) | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Alright, .... still doing something wrong. Photo too small and resolution too low. I am using an HP Photosmart Plus scanner. I am seeing few options for editing. Ideas ? | ||
Chrys 68 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 673 Location: Malung, SWEDEN | No experience with scanners. I usually photograph old pictures to make them digital. Nice picture of your 58! | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Okey-doke ! Off to a slow start, but that was always the plan anyway. Been organizing the mass of collected junk I had to pack into the shop when I deployed 3 years ago, and as a result, more and more room comes available to further organize. With the snows coming, it was my goal to get the Coronet dug out of its burial spot and outside, so I could move the rear clip I had leaned up against a front wall to the back of the shop where the tools, power, and light are. The weather turned rapidly this year, and it has been cold and raining now for weeks, so I took a sunny moment, moved some stuff around, grabbed a few errant neighbors, and we tipped the big lunk of metal down and carried it into position for dissecting over the winter. I will now remove the undercoating and cut / drill out the spot welds to turn the clip into the panels I need to finish the rebuild of my DeSoto. It had been my vision to have the shop all beautiful and nice for doing this work, but my experience working in rough conditions in AFG, and the desire to get this project back on the rails has me pushing forward, even if it won't be comfortable. The space that the rear clip took up can now be used to store the compressors, welder, torches, etc. that now make the DeSoto appear buried. All is good. (66 coro rag in shop.jpg) (66 coro rag out of shop.jpg) (59 r clip for Ethyl.jpg) (Ethyl buried Oct 2013.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 66 coro rag in shop.jpg (63KB - 787 downloads) 66 coro rag out of shop.jpg (75KB - 729 downloads) 59 r clip for Ethyl.jpg (55KB - 760 downloads) Ethyl buried Oct 2013.jpg (74KB - 688 downloads) | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Got a little time this afternoon and began removing the undercoating before I separate the various panels. This car had another car set on top of it, crushing it in certain contact points. I will have some rust repair to do here and there, but the dents and creases should be relatively easy to pound out when the panels are separated. Only one area (brownish area on right) required the use of a heat gun to soften the goo. All the rest came off easy enough with my 5-in-1 tool. (peeling undercoat 1.jpg) (peeling undercoat 2.jpg) (peeling undercoat 3.jpg) Attachments ---------------- peeling undercoat 1.jpg (56KB - 710 downloads) peeling undercoat 2.jpg (61KB - 737 downloads) peeling undercoat 3.jpg (66KB - 700 downloads) | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | With the undercoating peeled off the bottom of the body, I decided to push forward and separate the panels and peel the topside as needed. This can be a bit of challenge to find the spot welds. By using low light with a bright light running across the surface at an oblique angle, most are made visible by the slight dimple or shadow. I have developed a strategy of drilling them out with a 1/4" bit with a centering point and chasing the seam from one end to the other with a bee hive tool that I slightly blunt the tip on. By driving this tool down the joined seam, it pops any residual bite the drill might have missed, or quickly lets you know you missed one altogether. As the panels come apart, they tend to release a tension that makes the job go a little easier as you move along by indicating where that next weld might be hiding. While most welds leave indentations, others leave high bumps and some are downright invisible until you put separating pressure up to it. Here I am working from the rear bumper cutaway forward to the door jamb. Since the 59 has a different profile/contour at the back edge, I will have to cut this off square and extend the metal back about 4". As my wheel tub is wasted to a point about 4" from the lip, I face the worst challenge of building rear quarters back - building the tub lip back into thin air (no outer skin to mate it to) - I chose to do the outer skin in three pieces, the wheel opening, and the two panels fore and aft, and cut the outer skin accordingly. I ran out of battery on my grinder, so I left that part incomplete and moved forward in cleaning the inside of the wheel tub in preparation for dissecting that piece next. As the convertible has unique wheel tubs, I must do my repairs low enough on them to catch it in that area where they are the same with the non-convertibles. It is my plan to do any rust repairs to the wheel well lip (outer skin) first, then mock it up in place to dial that tub lip in for length (as it hangs down from the existing upper tub). Once happy with that, I can remove the outer skin and weld the tub lip in . This will take 500 on-and-off test drives to get right. .... but, as the rear wheel lip is such a striking detail of the Forward Look cars, and is so often done wrong on lesser restorations, it is one of those bullets you just gotta bite. Edited by Doctor DeSoto 2013-10-16 12:56 AM (DSC02687.jpg) (drilling welds 2.jpg) (drilling welds 3.jpg) (drilling welds 4.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DSC02687.jpg (38KB - 718 downloads) drilling welds 2.jpg (51KB - 770 downloads) drilling welds 3.jpg (41KB - 732 downloads) drilling welds 4.jpg (39KB - 722 downloads) | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7805 Location: Williams California | Good to see you going on your Desoto, Brent. Looking forward to your restoration here. ---John | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I'll be "working in the dirt" for a while, so it will be a slow process. But slow progress is better than NO progress, right ? Hey, if Denis can do the work he does, I can certainly give this a good shake. Just chopping up this rear clip into the workable parts will free up a 15' x 15' floor space, which is moving forward in itself. If I want to install a wood stove for over the winter, I gotta have some open space. Fabbing in 20f degree weather with no heat sucks ! One day at a time. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8443 Location: Perth Australia | Amazing how much more a mis hit with the hammer hurts when its cold as well Hate drilling spot welds, There was no consistancy when they did them, just banged them in as fast as they could | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7805 Location: Williams California | Doctor DeSoto - 2013-10-16 12:41 PM I'll be "working in the dirt" for a while, so it will be a slow process. But slow progress is better than NO progress, right ? Hey, if Denis can do the work he does, I can certainly give this a good shake. Just chopping up this rear clip into the workable parts will free up a 15' x 15' floor space, which is moving forward in itself. If I want to install a wood stove for over the winter, I gotta have some open space. Fabbing in 20f degree weather with no heat sucks ! One day at a time. I hear ya- With no door on the big barn, even here in Ca, it gets to 30-40 degrees, and the wind whips in sometimes. I have a couple smudge pots I burn oil in to make it a tad warmer. ---John | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Had about an hour of free time tonight and hit the DeSoto project for a short run. Decided to unbury the DeSoto and see what the trunk looks like under all those parts and undercoating. Happy news, there are some ugly amateur patches welded in over the top of the original metal, but a surprising amount of the original floor is very much intact and still in shiny metal/grey primer. By removing these patches first, I can determine what I need to extract from the parts clip. I expected this to to be a total wash, but may get a break here. | ||
60 Imp |
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Location: North Australia | Been a long time coming, this 58 Fireflite. Keen to see more photo's, so.......... Go Man go! Steve. | ||
60 Imp |
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Location: North Australia | What's the plan Doctor? Built to look original as possible (with subtle upgrades)? Steve. | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Short term goal is to finish putting the body back together. Once done, I will pull it off the frame and do the chassis. As this was already made mechanically good, it should be more cosmetic than anything. However, the engine and trans will get yanked and the tricks I plan for maximum fuel economy will be put into place ... namely a bunch of internal engine stuff and a modern 5-speed transmission. The rear gears will get a raise to 2.76 in the process too. That finished, the body goes back on and we button it up in an atypical color combo that represents a uniquely late 50's sort of paint scheme. As of now, the plan is lavender metallic with charcoal sweep and black top. | ||
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Expert Posts: 4654 | Doctor DeSoto - 2013-10-21 12:29 PM Short term goal is to finish putting the body back together. Once done, I will pull it off the frame and do the chassis. As this was already made mechanically good, it should be more cosmetic than anything. However, the engine and trans will get yanked and the tricks I plan for maximum fuel economy will be put into place ... namely a bunch of internal engine stuff and a modern 5-speed transmission. The rear gears will get a raise to 2.76 in the process too. That finished, the body goes back on and we button it up in an atypical color combo that represents a uniquely late 50's sort of paint scheme. As of now, the plan is lavender metallic with charcoal sweep and black top. And dog dish hubcaps ??? | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I have them, but no, dog dishies were not available on Fireflites and would look inappropriate on a top line car. That's where the Plaza comes in .... Not sure what I'll run. I hate the standard wheel covers, which leaves 2 options ... wires, or the spinners. I have always run wires and love them, but with the way every FL convertible now seems to wear them, my interest is waning. Perhaps have some 15" wheels custom made to hold that 14" spinner ??? | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 691 Location: Los Angeles, California | I like the wires, its a slap in the face and a reminder to all the other FL converts with your unique color scheme which sets yours apart. | ||
60 Imp |
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Location: North Australia | Chrysler made some good looking full wheel covers in the 60's (and maybe in the 70's), Maybe there is some that would suit the car? last link is the 58 type you don't like? Steve. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-1967-1968-CHRYSLER-USED-NICE-WHEEL-COV... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-CHRYSLER-NEW-YORKER-FIFTH-AVE-NEWPORT-... http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-1972-1978-Chrysler-Wheel-Cover-/1506780... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-68-NOS-DODGE-POLARA-MONACO-CORONET-14-... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-80-NOS-PLYMOUTH-DODGE-VOLARE-ASPEN-14-... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Chrysler-Newport-Wheel-Cover-/16110417... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Our-best-1958-DeSoto-Hub-Cap-Wheel-Cover-/1... | ||
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Expert Posts: 3887 Location: Northen Virginia | Good to see you and your project back Doc! | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | The reason I don't care for the 58 DeSoto wheelcovers is the large, flat disc in the center. Conversely, I like the 57 wheelcover. I'm a picky #@!, and don't like drifting out of period to maintain a period appearance. I will take photos of the dog dish and spinner and post here for reference. I would argue that the 57-58 Dodge spinner is one of the best looking wheelcovers ever made. 57-58 NY'er covers are good looking too. So are the 300 and Imperial covers through those years. | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Denis, I credit you with kicking my ass into gear and making this happen. Watching how you whipped those cars of yours into shape, working in less than ideal conditions. It is time to stop making excuses. As I said above, slow progress is better than NO progress. | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I went on a little hunt today and located the 57-61 DeSoto dog dish hubcaps (someone had asked for a photo of these), and well as the gold half of a Fuel Injection emblem and a handful of 58 Spring Special trunk bars. Could not find the spinners, but put eyes on them since coming home, so they are somewhere close. Will post a photo of those when I find them. The dog dish originally had black paint between the outer rings. It still shows a little, but most has come off over the years. Edited by Doctor DeSoto 2013-10-22 10:25 PM (dog dish.jpg) (fuel injection emblem.jpg) Attachments ---------------- dog dish.jpg (56KB - 712 downloads) fuel injection emblem.jpg (43KB - 725 downloads) | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | Photos of the work I did peeling back the trunk floor in the DeSoto to reveal some pretty decent floor areas and some real amateur patches. I expected far worse, so this is a good thing ! (trunk floor 1.jpg) (trunk floor 2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- trunk floor 1.jpg (50KB - 722 downloads) trunk floor 2.jpg (55KB - 736 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1112 Location: Wild Wonderful | Here is an idea for your wheels. Paint the wheels body color Lavender, use the dog dish caps, but repaint the outer edge (that was black) with the body color, then put a set of beauty rings with them. That way they look like a full hubcap, and it ties in with the car nicely. And it will be unique , and have that 50s feel. Or if that is not 50s enough, you could paint the wheels and the outer edge of the dog dish black. .... Just throwing out ideas to ya. Whatever you do will be great, I know it. Good luck. | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | If this were a Firedome, I would not hesitate running the dog dishies. It truly would be unique. I don't know of a single example of a 57-61 DeSoto running doggies today, let alone a big body, or a convertible ! But a Fireflite just would be wrong with dog dishies as an original appearing upline car. It will boil down to wires or custom wheels and those spinners. | ||
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Location: The Mile High City | I might be wrong, but I think the Firedome and the Fireflite both came standard with full wheel covers and the same wheels beneath. If I am not mistaken, the wheels did not have the bumps or tabs around the hub to accommodate a hub cap. Those were only standard (and rare) on the Firesweeps with Dodge wheels. So, if you had an original Fireflite or Firedome and you wanted to have the hubcaps, you would have to find not only the hubcaps but also a new set of wheels! Good work on the Fireflite, Doc! | ||
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Expert Posts: 3966 Location: DFW, TX | I agree with you that the '58 Desoto wheelcovers are bland. The '57 units are more appealing IMO. The '56 Dodge Lancer spinner hubcaps might be a good choice as well, and they are 15". Just a thought. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Lancer-1955-1956-Hub-Caps-/1511485664... | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Lancer Mike - 2013-10-24 7:35 AM I might be wrong, but I think the Firedome and the Fireflite both came standard with full wheel covers and the same wheels beneath. If I am not mistaken, the wheels did not have the bumps or tabs around the hub to accommodate a hub cap. Those were only standard (and rare) on the Firesweeps with Dodge wheels. So, if you had an original Fireflite or Firedome and you wanted to have the hubcaps, you would have to find not only the hubcaps but also a new set of wheels! Good work on the Fireflite, Doc! =================================================== I used to be so up on this, but have been away from it too long now to pull it off the top of my head .... A regret of mine is not purchasing a 57 Firedome convertible that was a stripper. This car was a pile of rust in someone's back yard (unmolested) and was equipped with body color wheels and dog dishies. Since the Firedome was DeSoto's cheapest ragtop for 57, this may have changed for 58 when the Sweep became the low price ragtop ??? I would have to pour over my old paper to verify, and right now that ain't happening ! For whatever reasons, little thought was given to selling/buying Plymouths with dog dishies back in the day. But step up to a DeSoto, even a very similar-to-a-Plymouth Firesweep, and it seems few people did not step up and pay the extra $6 to get the full face wheelcovers. Not sure why. Personally, I don't think the 58 DeSoto works as a no-sweep car. The 57 side trim worked well with the single bar, but the 58 just looks like parts are missing. I think a no-sweep ragtop with doggies would be very attractive in 57 trim, but would look awkward as a 58. I guess if one really wanted an unusual car, that would be the way to go ? I just could not bring myself to do that to an upline Fireflite. It is too big of a stretch. The dealer would have sold them a Sweep or Dome. | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Tonight it was time to finish peeling back the butyl goo (a real b!tch) that the doer of these terrible patches slimed over all the joints. As long as you can't see the rust underneath, it's all gone, right ? Cutting the welds at the patch edge, I used a flatbar to apply pressure and break the welds before cutting into good floor. I can grind off what welds remain after I cut the metal back to the point I want to replace. Being careful not to cut too much may save me a little repair later. You can really see the salt-induced kind of rust here that we don't get in the desert country. The lap seams are swollen with scale to about 3/8" thick ! .... and gone between the original spot welds. Do they salt the roads in Syracuse ??? I really need to take some time and get some lights hung. I am using RALS lights just because I am too eager to get working on the car and don't want to take the time to get some real lights in place. (trunk removing old patches L 1.jpg) (trunk removing old patches L 2.jpg) (trunk removing old patches L 3.jpg) Attachments ---------------- trunk removing old patches L 1.jpg (43KB - 772 downloads) trunk removing old patches L 2.jpg (63KB - 747 downloads) trunk removing old patches L 3.jpg (56KB - 737 downloads) | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Being the only full service DeSoto-Plymouth dealer still in the area, I felt it important to give myself an award for having such good taste. This arrived in the mail today. (dealer award.jpg) Attachments ---------------- dealer award.jpg (52KB - 771 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | It will be cool to see another vert restoration on here. Btw, here's a pic of my fuelie X, no cut out for the Inj. The correct part number is on the reverse side though. (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (165KB - 771 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8443 Location: Perth Australia | Without stealing your thread Doc Wonder where the idea for the 60 dodge emblem came from? (3325_12.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 3325_12.jpg (28KB - 736 downloads) | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Continuing with the trunk floor patch removal, I took some time and fished a light fixture out of the upstairs storage area and made some hangers to suspend it right there off the underside of the deck lid. A few new tubes, as the ones in the fixture were toast, and I had good light to work with. The RALS still helped in areas where the grinder shadowed the work. All is good. It seems the passenger side is a bit uglier than the driver side ! The worst part of this job is digging the butyl sealer out of the seams. The artist that did this work apparently had no shortage of the stuff and applied it liberally to disguise his fine craftsmanship. It takes me half the time to remove the metal that it does to get that nasty stuff out of there. It holds REAL good and requires a finesse of pulling on the loose end while cutting away at the stuck part with the 5-in-1 tool. Pull too hard, and it breaks, and then I am left with nothing to pull. But I am almost finished, and then it is time to trim back my edges and start the rebuild. (trunk removing old patches 4.jpg) (trunk removing old patches 5.jpg) (trunk removing old patches 6.jpg) (trunk removing old patches 7.jpg) (trunk removing old patches 8.jpg) (trunk removing old patches 9.jpg) Attachments ---------------- trunk removing old patches 4.jpg (61KB - 708 downloads) trunk removing old patches 5.jpg (62KB - 724 downloads) trunk removing old patches 6.jpg (58KB - 711 downloads) trunk removing old patches 7.jpg (62KB - 704 downloads) trunk removing old patches 8.jpg (62KB - 693 downloads) trunk removing old patches 9.jpg (61KB - 744 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7805 Location: Williams California | Looks like a real mess there! | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I am surprised to see the level of still-in-paint metal here, right alongside totally wasted areas. I am accustomed to seeing a more uniform rust throughout. Cars from Seattle typically need the entire trunk pan and side drops replaced, as the rear window trough leaked and allowed water to just sit on the flat surface, the drops going gunnysack with the outer quarter skin from the wet debris that always accumulates in that "sump"-like pocket. I will need to hone my own rusty welding skills, but with this much metal still present, it will be more of a patch job than a build-it-out-of-nothing adventure. Those are always fun because you are building out into thin air with no straight lines for reference points. This should not be TOO bad. | ||
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Expert Posts: 3887 Location: Northen Virginia | Good work Doc, I wish my Imperial was in the US so I can keep working on the sheet metal like you are doing now. Doc, don't worry about the hubcaps now, when the car is ready your decision about them will be too. | ||
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