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Expert Posts: 1379    Location: Ocala, Florida | Finally got one and I just found out tonight. My father surprised me got my dream car. I am still in shock. It's a no back seat car! I'm still in shock so I don't have much to say right now! Full restoration is the plan. Also Joe if your reading this thank you for making my dream come true and coming all the way from Ohio! I also want to thing my father of course. Edited by The Chrysler Kid 2014-02-28 10:44 PM (image.jpg) (image.jpg) Attachments ----------------  image.jpg (182KB - 512 downloads) image.jpg (179KB - 575 downloads) | ||
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | Unloading her. (image.jpg) (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (144KB - 465 downloads) image.jpg (132KB - 466 downloads) | ||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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   Location: Parts Unknown | This is SO cool. Way to go ! I was searching around for that thread last week, wondering whatever became of this car ... So, what was the status of the rear cargo/no-seat area ? Looking forward to seeing this hideous thing come back to life.  | ||
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | This is terrific. Photos ! Photos !  | ||
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Whaddya mean, "tomorrow" ? Break out the lights and work the grave shift !  | ||
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| d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19171 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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| VAN HELSING |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 983 Location: Upper Hunter NSW Australia | .......... Wow, nice score there, I really like these " no frills " bare bones cars  Thumbs up from me .......... | ||
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| SavoyPlaza |
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | Dash was already redone! (image.jpg) (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (124KB - 551 downloads) image.jpg (141KB - 546 downloads) | ||
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| uncltank |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 380 Location: Kennewick Wa | |||
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | I hung the fenders to see how it all fit. Can't wait to get started on the restoration I will document it on here. (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (196KB - 537 downloads) | ||
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | Back seat area of Lucy at the moment. (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (163KB - 464 downloads) | ||
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | |||
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | |||
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | |||
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| d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19171 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | I put her up on blocks to be able to work under her easier. Still waiting to get the vin decoded. (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (139KB - 558 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3947 Location: DFW, TX | Neat car! Glad to see it getting built up here on the FL site. Any pictures yet of that backseat area and cover? I think everyone is anxious to see that. I'm sure you saw the Photoshop I did of a "hot" version of a business coupe in the other thread. If you want it, I can send the original Photoshop file with the various layers that you can play around with. Very nice to see it here. Keep us posted!  | ||
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | |||
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| 57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3947 Location: DFW, TX | Actually, I used two cars plus a bunch of time "fixing" the front end to get there. http://car-from-uk.com/sale.php?id=8508 http://jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=834610 (1958_plymouth_side.jpg) (1964_plymouth_side.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958_plymouth_side.jpg (65KB - 467 downloads) 1964_plymouth_side.jpg (134KB - 534 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3947 Location: DFW, TX | I saw the photo of the rear seat area, but... The Chrysler Kid - 2014-02-28 10:34 PM She is 100% complete the pedestal type thing is in one of the boxes. ^^... this is the part I'm a little anxious to see. | ||
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| 55 Dodge |
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | I got the gas tank out today. The trunk is in very good shape as well as the tank. Also my service manual came today. Does anyone know of a good source to get a rear passenger side front quarter? (image.jpg) (image.jpg) (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (132KB - 445 downloads) image.jpg (130KB - 451 downloads) image.jpg (170KB - 531 downloads) | ||
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | Lucy now has a transmission! She will be a 4 speed on the floor. Very nice knowledgable guy had it for sale. Now I am just waiting on the inner and outer rockers to arrive. (image.jpg) Attachments ---------------- image.jpg (143KB - 466 downloads) | ||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | So, are we to assume that this car, like all the rest, had the business coupe special rear seat area "equipment" tossed ? Here, I was getting all excited to finally see what that stuff looked like.  | ||
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | |||
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| 57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3947 Location: DFW, TX | Doctor DeSoto - 2014-03-08 3:29 PM Here, I was getting all excited to finally see what that stuff looked like. It seems like a scan of a '57-59 Plymouth parts book would show how this area was finished out in a business coupe, along with part numbers. No? | ||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | In spite of my 58 Plaza ownership, I have yet to buy the associated books and lit. I may already have some of it from earlier 58 Plymouth ownership or dealer stock ? But that stuff is all boxed up and put away, so I have not looked. A long time ago I thought owning/restoring one of these would be really neat, but the idea of a stripper 4 door won out. The thing that makes a business coupe neat is the extreme stripper nature of it, and that special rear seat area trim out. Without that, it's just another two-door sedan. The fixed rear glass is not that big of a deal to me. It's ALL the details together. Were I to do one of these, it would be done to represent what a unique car it was with all those quirky stripper details proudly shown off in all their underwhelming anti-glory ! What was the last year a Mopar business coupe was offered, 58 ? | ||
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| 57Kelii |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 684 Location: Los Angeles, California | |||
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| 58coupe |
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Expert Posts: 1709 Location: Alaska | |||
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| Metalshop16 |
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Member Posts: 41 Location: Cognac , S-W of France | |||
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| The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | |||
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| uncltank |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 380 Location: Kennewick Wa | |||
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| 58coupe |
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Expert Posts: 1709 Location: Alaska | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Many years ago I stumbled on a guy who had 3-4 59 Chevy sedan deliverys and a business coupe. Back then, I was all about hardtops, convertibles, and bling, but was aware enough to realize how special these professional stripper cars were. His business coupe remained in rough, but original condition and I remember thinking what a clusterschtuppe that back seat area was for any use but a traveling salesman with the type of commodity that could be hauled that way. And even so, why not get a 4 door so you could get at the goods ??? Still, it was really cool for being such a stripper POS and contributed to my developing appreciation for these bottom-of-the-barrel cars. I would hope anyone with one of these very special cars would appreciate them that way, but realize that everyone has their own tastes. I know if I saw one at a car show, I'd walk past all the 300's and Furys to drool on the truly RARE car. As far as I know, there is not a single example of a 57-58 Plymouth business coupe anywhere that is restored as a business coupe.  | ||
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| 57Kelii |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 684 Location: Los Angeles, California | |||
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| Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Given the trade-in culture that was very strong through the fin era, few people kept their cars more than 3-5 years before the car went to the secondary market. Now you have a stripper mobile with no back seat ! Who would want THAT ? I would bet good money that most of those 2,800 business coupes got a back seat stuffed in them from a wrecking yard car at this point just to market them. From that point forward, it was just another two-door sedan (with the package shelf equipment removed). So, the chances of an original surviving had strong odds against it from early on. Strippers did not survive well for similar reasons (not appealing to used car buyers), but professional, special use cars enjoyed an acute onset of non-desirability in the original-use condition. If memory serves, 58 Plazas like mine were built to a number of some 54,000 and change. Hard to believe, considering how few we see today compared to the sexier models, but it tells a definite story of how that secondary market worked before fin cars gained acceptance in the collector market. It took a queer kind of personality to love a stripper. That frugal, almost Rainman kind of Great Depression survivor kind of person who thought "frill" was ostentatious and embarrassing, yet was not the type of old car beater that drove them into the ground like most people were. They took an odd pride is BEING a bare bones kind of person that we rarely see in U.S. society anymore, going to great lengths to make that spartan mobile last forever as a matter of personal pride. The more out of style it was the better. It made more of a statement about the frugality of the owner. We don't grow those kind of people here anymore. Everyone wants sexy and debt, the worst nightmare of the frugalitarian.  | ||
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| Swept57 |
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Expert Posts: 1622 Location: Seville, OH | |||
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Expert Posts: 1379 Location: Ocala, Florida | |||
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