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db300
Posted 2014-03-12 4:09 PM (#430923)
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It's time for me to get mufflers for my F...what are you running? Looking for something a little louder than stock...any recommendations?
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Posted 2014-03-12 4:48 PM (#430929 - in reply to #430923)
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Flowmaster advertising be d___ned, give me Magnaflows - as long as you can fit in your chassis. Excellent sound at idle and quiet in the car above 60 mph.
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Posted 2014-03-12 5:14 PM (#430932 - in reply to #430929)
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Posted 2014-03-12 5:45 PM (#430934 - in reply to #430923)
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I've been all over YouTube looking for clips....pretty scarce on anything with an exhaust note..
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Posted 2014-03-12 7:14 PM (#430939 - in reply to #430934)
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Posted 2014-03-12 7:29 PM (#430941 - in reply to #430923)
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A era "stock" sounding exhaust would be difficult to hear idling 10 feet away and not more than this at a City Speed.




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Posted 2014-03-12 8:27 PM (#430949 - in reply to #430941)
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Posted 2014-03-12 8:57 PM (#430958 - in reply to #430923)
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glasspacks with as big as possible tailpipes. pretty quiet at normal speeds but at wot... no other mufflers sound that brutal at wot also glasspacks should be the least restrictive mufflers.

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Posted 2014-03-12 11:10 PM (#430991 - in reply to #430923)
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Those Borlas sure sound neat!
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Posted 2014-03-12 11:14 PM (#430992 - in reply to #430923)
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Posted 2014-03-13 12:08 AM (#430998 - in reply to #430923)
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One of my cars already had Borlas on it when I bought the car and they sounded tinny and hollow , just like the video someone just uploaded on .

You cannot beat flowmasters for that raw throaty sound that turns heads and makes me not want to use the radio . This is a Stock one owner 1968 Chrysler 300 with its factory 440

I have now used delta flows (40s ) for about 5 of my 60s Chrysler big blocks and they are amazing . You must use the delta flows , as if you use the original 40s the car resonates inside badly at speeds .
Here is a video of what they sounds like on my 68 300.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=527380350713144&set=o.137810919...

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Posted 2014-03-13 1:59 PM (#431046 - in reply to #430923)
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I went with dual straight pipes on my '55. Little loud for some but I absolutely LOVE it!
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Posted 2014-03-13 3:05 PM (#431059 - in reply to #430923)
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yrs and yrs ago i used straight pipes . to tone em down a bit i crumpled up a handful of stainless screening and pushed it in the tip about a foot . to secure i used 2 , 1in. stainless
screws on to tail end through the pipe to stop the screening from blowing out . it was a nice sound , with not a lot of cackle ----------------------------------------later
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Posted 2014-03-13 4:55 PM (#431076 - in reply to #430992)
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61forfun - 2014-03-12 11:14 PM

Just ordered a set of Waldron's Imposters for my 413 transplant into my 61
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Posted 2014-03-13 5:12 PM (#431078 - in reply to #430923)
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Only Flowmasters can turn a luxury car into sounding like a gutless '78 Camaro.

Have a look at the below website. These guys have done some testing on fairly stock sounding mufflers and still deliver a performance increase;
http://www.pontiacstreetperformance.com/psp/exhaust.html



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The Adventurer
Posted 2014-03-13 5:42 PM (#431083 - in reply to #430923)
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I think you are full of sh*t Big Block . The car sounds amazing and I have owned a dozen of these cars , and this car absolutely moves out so much better than when stock . I don't need a dyno to note the differences .
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Posted 2014-03-13 6:24 PM (#431091 - in reply to #430923)
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The 3-chamber FM's can sound 'ok' on a moderate engine but the 2-chambers FM's (which I had in mind when writing my prev. reply) are just 'Look-at-me attention getters' to me.
On a nice FWLK-car you don't need Sound to get any(more) attention
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Posted 2014-03-13 8:28 PM (#431110 - in reply to #430923)
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Thanks for the link Herman!!
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Posted 2014-03-13 8:51 PM (#431112 - in reply to #430923)
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I'll be running what I've run before. Dynomax Super Turbo's. Sound great at idle and fantastic at full throttle but the big deal for me, absolutely NO droning inside the car. http://www.dynomax.com/mufflers/super-turbo-mufflers
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Posted 2014-03-13 9:16 PM (#431121 - in reply to #430923)
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Hey James step on the gas in when making that video. They sound like mine at idle. Would like to hear it when you rev the engine. My borla's don't sound tinny to me. That was probably just the microphone on my iphone 4. It's what I had at the time.
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Posted 2014-03-14 12:05 AM (#431153 - in reply to #431121)
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Mine came with Flowmasters when I bought it, and they're still there. They have a nice sound but yet the car is quiet inside. You can hear them here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBH-fDtVoUY&feature=share&list=UUfls...







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Posted 2014-03-14 12:25 AM (#431155 - in reply to #430923)
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thats a nice sound ian --------------------------------------------------------later
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Posted 2014-03-21 10:13 AM (#432281 - in reply to #430923)
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Okay so My son and I need to do exhaust on his 55 royal, I was thinking magna flow since that is what I have on my 70, he is thinking glasspax what do you all think?
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Posted 2014-03-21 4:07 PM (#432321 - in reply to #430923)
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Exhaust tone is in the ear of the beholder. IMO, most of the popular mufflers are loud and will drone at cruise speed. OE style oval mufflers might cost you some performance but will make up for it in lack of aggravation.
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Posted 2014-03-21 5:12 PM (#432340 - in reply to #432321)
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57chizler - 2014-03-21 3:07 PM


Exhaust tone is in the ear of the beholder. IMO, most of the popular mufflers are loud and will drone at cruise speed. OE style oval mufflers might cost you some performance but will make up for it in lack of aggravation.


Correct. See my link above. No droning and nice flow through design.

And they typically run $49 each with free shipping.

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Posted 2014-03-21 8:09 PM (#432375 - in reply to #432340)
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Posted 2014-03-22 6:57 PM (#432507 - in reply to #430923)
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Posted 2014-03-23 12:02 AM (#432542 - in reply to #430923)
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Posted 2014-03-23 1:08 AM (#432544 - in reply to #430923)
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This side of the world, you couldnt run side pipes like that on a 4dr.

You have to use them on a 2dr and the rear windows are not allowed to be wound down

They do look good on that though

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Posted 2014-03-23 3:37 AM (#432551 - in reply to #430923)
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it's stated here , the exhaust has to exit past rear of the rear operating window . they do by 3/8" on empty air shocks--------------------------------------------------later
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Posted 2014-03-23 12:43 PM (#432589 - in reply to #432551)
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I just changed my mufflers on my '58 Saratoga this morning. I was running Magnaflows in the 'most quiet' version I could find which is an 18" long case muffler. I wasn't happy with the noise level inside the car, and they didn't sound that great when standing behind it either. I decided to buy a longer case muffler and after some searching bought some 21" case Walker PN 22380 QuietFlow SS mufflers. They are sold as a replacement for certain year Buicks as I recall. These mufflers, I'm sure, don't flow as well as the Magnaflows but then I am not turning 6000RPM anyway. Plus, with two I am guessing the flow is still way better than a stock single exhaust car.

So.....how are they? I am very pleased. They eliminated a lot of the droning and general 'nervousness' that the car had with the Magnaflows. Inside the car, I would say they are 'just slightly' louder than stock, but not by much. The car is much more enjoyable to drive. The biggest surprise is when you get out of the car and go to the back.....they are much more 'burbly' at idle than a stock muffler. That's a good setup to me - loud enough to others to suggest "power" but quiet inside the car.


To me...for a Chrysler 300F they would be a very good choice. Powerful and refined sounding without sounding like a 23 year old carpet installer in a Chevy 1/2 ton.


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Posted 2014-03-24 1:21 PM (#432767 - in reply to #432589)
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Here are the new Walker mufflers and the old Magnaflows I cut off. The Mag's are more sexy but the Walkers do a better job, IMO.



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Posted 2014-03-28 12:46 AM (#433482 - in reply to #432767)
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It's so subjective. You want the V8 burble, avoid an H pipe. I actually run a stock 57 imperial setup on my lil 325 in my Firesweep. Giant stock Imperial mufflers with secondary resonators. It is super high-flow, and throaty. Otherwise, I agree with Sid. Just do cherry bomb glasspacks. Straight pipes are annoying.

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Posted 2014-03-31 8:32 PM (#434063 - in reply to #430923)
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Posted 2014-04-02 5:46 PM (#434345 - in reply to #431083)
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The Adventurer - 2014-03-13 5:42 PM

I think you are full of sh*t Big Block . The car sounds amazing and I have owned a dozen of these cars , and this car absolutely moves out so much better than when stock . I don't need a dyno to note the differences .


Actually BigBlockMopar is correct,the Flowb*stards are noise personified,If you want a good sounding free flowing muffler also with a lifetime warranty you can beat Walker DynoMax Super Turbo's !!
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Posted 2014-04-02 8:11 PM (#434374 - in reply to #431083)
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The Adventurer - 2014-03-13 5:42 PM

I think you are full of sh*t Big Block . The car sounds amazing and I have owned a dozen of these cars , and this car absolutely moves out so much better than when stock . I don't need a dyno to note the differences .


You can't deny FACTS.
There is a reason people call them flowstoppers.
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oldhippie
Posted 2017-07-27 10:07 AM (#544954 - in reply to #431112)
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b5rt - 2014-03-13 8:51 PM

I'll be running what I've run before. Dynomax Super Turbo's. Sound great at idle and fantastic at full throttle but the big deal for me, absolutely NO droning inside the car. http://www.dynomax.com/mufflers/super-turbo-mufflers


Been thinking of these myself, do you (or anyone, really) have any input regarding issues with moisture & the fiberglass deadening material? I've read on some other boards where people said they thought the glass would retain moisture, leading to premature rust-out...
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Posted 2017-07-27 12:08 PM (#544959 - in reply to #544954)
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I'm running the stock Muffler and resonator by Waldrons exhaust. You talk about quiet! When the shop first installed my new exhaust, I started up the car and thought it didn't fire up until I looked at the oil gauge.
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Posted 2017-07-27 1:12 PM (#544961 - in reply to #430923)
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I agree with one very important point - exhaust tone/noise level is one of the most subjective things about any car. What I love, you may hate, and vice-versa.

The one "challenging" comment I will make is this - these cars are all as big as tuna boats (and may handle like one) so why make them sound like tuna boats?

Exhaust sound is determined by so many variables. While mufflers play a big part, pipe diameter, length, and even shape, will affect the end sound. As noted a balance tube will aid performance, but change the sound, often somewhat quieter. An "X" or merge collector will give a different sound than a balance tube. Also headers, even shorty style, will result in a different "orientation" of the pulses in the system than OE manifolds and change the exhaust sound. Then there's resonators - another variable.

I'm sure everyone here knows most of this, I only put it all out there because sometimes we forget ALL of the variables. I worked in a shop that did a lot of custom exhaust, and most of it was just hanging pipes and whatever muffler was popular that week. However sometimes we would get a customer who was particular, and in those cases we sometimes did mufflers 2 or 3 times, or even the entire system a few times.

So experimentation is the word of the day - unless you can find someone who has the sound you want and duplicate their installation (easiest in my book)

One word about glasspacks - they look high flow - but in reality they flow worse than a straight pipe, and almost always worse than a good reverse-flow muffler. There have been many tests done by various enthusiast publications over the years that verify this. If you like the sound (I don't) then glasspacks are for you - but don't think they flow the best (or even close to the best).

My choice tends to quiet - I like big pipes - 2 1/2 to 3" - and big mufflers with large inlet/outlet and through diameters. Turbo mufflers, Walker (Dyno-Max) in particular, get me where I want to be.

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Posted 2017-07-27 3:33 PM (#544967 - in reply to #430923)
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Here's what I have on my running cars, all exhaust are dual systems, w/ no H or X-pipe except for the last one:

'57 Chrysler Windsor - 354ci poly - manifolds, 2" dia exhaust w/stock-ish turbo mufflers -- sounds stock with a bit more sound.
'60 Chrysler NewYorker - 496ci stroker roller cammed + longrams - Shorty headers, 2.5" dia exhaust w/Walker Dynomax mufflers. Added resonators in the back. -- sounds nowhere near stock because of big cam,
'62 Chrysler NewYorker Wagon - 413ci - manifolds, 2" dia. exhaust w/ 50series old Flowmasters, but fully 'carboned up'. Sounds real mellow. Only has a bit of the typical Flowmaster sound when getting on the throttle firmly.
'65 Chrysler 300 convertible - 400ci - manifolds, 2-1/4" dia exhaust w/ 50series Flowmaster. Have a pair of Dynomax mufflers on the shelf for this car. - Very loud with cold engine, tones down when warm. Nice burble while driving but overal sound not suitable for this car.
'73 Dodge Dart daily driver - 318ci - fulllength headers, 2.5" dia exhaust w/ X-pipes into Borla ProXS (street) mufflers. - Quiet when idling and cruising. Get more noisy when on the throttle. Sounds bit more like a modern performance car.
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Posted 2017-08-02 12:01 PM (#545365 - in reply to #430949)
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which borla mufflers did you use? They seem pretty quiet. Sounds good though.
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Beltran
Posted 2017-08-06 6:07 PM (#545709 - in reply to #430923)
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I took them off. Not the sound I really wanted. Now back to searching / experimenting again.
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Posted 2017-12-13 11:09 PM (#554282 - in reply to #430923)
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On a 59 Plymouth Fury with a '68 383 and '63 727, 2 1/4 inch pipes and NOS '68 Street Hemi mufflers.
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Posted 2017-12-14 4:34 PM (#554346 - in reply to #554282)
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skyhawk - 2017-12-13 11:09 PM

On a 59 Plymouth Fury with a '68 383 and '63 727, 2 1/4 inch pipes and NOS '68 Street Hemi mufflers.


I bet that sounds nice - not too loud but throaty when you push it.

Are you running straight pipes to the mufflers, or an "H" or crossover pipe?

I had the factory "H" pipe set-up on a '68 Satellite as a kid and loved the overall sound.



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Posted 2017-12-14 9:24 PM (#554355 - in reply to #430923)
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LostDeere59, I'm not running an "H"pipe. I tried to keep the setup as stock looking(for a 59 Fury) as I could, and I wanted to approximate the factory sound I remember from the big block Mopars of the late Sixties. I think I paid $15.00 each at the local Dodge dealership for the mufflers back in 1969. Didn't get around to using them until 2015!

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Posted 2017-12-16 10:15 AM (#554408 - in reply to #430923)
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I'm running a complete Waldron exhaust system at my 1956 New Yorker with Impostor mufflers. Mild steel by the way. At highway speeds above 60/65 mph the exhaust note of my NY almost sounds like a machine gun (real Hemi sound) (:-) and clearly noticeable from the outside.

For my Letter (1960 Chrysler 300 F) at Waldron's I ordered a complete mild steel exhaust system as well /w Impostor mufflers. These mufflers are looking like original mufflers. I do not want to stick with any after market mufflers that are ways too short compared to the original mufflers...

I ordered mild steel exhaust systems in both cases, because the sound is softer and no so metallic (synthetic) like a stainless steel exhaust system.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter



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Posted 2017-12-21 3:00 AM (#554768 - in reply to #554408)
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Posted 2018-10-08 9:11 PM (#571360 - in reply to #430923)
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I bought a pair of Walker 21314. I have read that these are fairly close to stock.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wlk-21314

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Posted 2018-10-11 1:39 PM (#571508 - in reply to #431112)
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b5rt - 2014-03-13 8:51 PM

I'll be running what I've run before. Dynomax Super Turbo's. Sound great at idle and fantastic at full throttle but the big deal for me, absolutely NO droning inside the car. http://www.dynomax.com/mufflers/super-turbo-mufflers


I just put a set on my Cordoba, never tried them before. I gotta say I am truly impressed. Hooker Super Comps, 2 1/2 mandrel bent right out the rear and Dynomax Super Turbos. Mild small block.
I absolutely think it sounds good. Really good
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