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ply57nz
Posted 2014-04-14 3:49 AM (#435940)
Subject: Rear screen defroster



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I've just purchased a rear screen defroster for my 57 Plymouth, the type that sucks air through what looks like a speaker surround and then blows out of a long thin vent. My question being does it get wired up to the same switch as the heater or does it get wired to a separate switch so it can be run by itself.
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wizard
Posted 2014-04-14 4:21 AM (#435942 - in reply to #435940)
Subject: Re: Rear screen defroster



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I can't answer for the '57 models, but for the '60-'61, the rear defogger has it's own circuit with a separate switch. It's a very convenient option and you'll be pleased with the function on a damp rainy day.
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ply57nz
Posted 2014-04-14 4:44 AM (#435944 - in reply to #435942)
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Thanks Wizard My thinking was that it probably should have it's own circuit but I cant find any info in the service manuals, which will bring me to my next question, what does the switch look like?

I know in my old 57 savoy I didn't have a defroster in the back and the screen would fog up at the drop of a hat so I'm looking forward to installing it into my Belvedere
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wizard
Posted 2014-04-14 5:40 AM (#435947 - in reply to #435940)
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From '57 Chrysler shop manual;

31. REAR WINDOW DEFROSTER
The rear window defroster (optional on all
Models) is located on and under the rear shelf
panel of the car, and consists of a blower, flexible
hose and nozzle. A switch, located on the
instrument panel, controls the blower for defrosting
the rear window. There is no connection
w i t h the heater in the car, w i t h the rear
window defroster, so that when air is drawn
through the blower from inside the car, i t is
recirculated on the rear window glass.

See also the electrical schema from '58 below


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ply57nz
Posted 2014-04-14 6:36 AM (#435951 - in reply to #435947)
Subject: Re: Rear screen defroster



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That's fantastic Wizard Thank you, it all looks pretty simple and straight forward. I guess the switch would then be just some generic switch discreetly placed.
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wizard
Posted 2014-04-14 7:50 AM (#435956 - in reply to #435940)
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I remember that I saw a picture of a 59 Chrysler dash with the switch mounted under the dashboard - I think it might be the same switch for 57. If no one kicks in, I'll see if I can find the picture
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2014-04-14 12:34 PM (#435984 - in reply to #435956)
Subject: Re: Rear screen defroster


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The switch is just an ordinary toggle switch with a chrome or nickel handle. Power to the fuel gauge is not fused I would suggest installing a in-line fuse in the wire to the defogger motor.
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T-34
Posted 2014-04-14 1:42 PM (#435991 - in reply to #435940)
Subject: RE: Rear screen defroster



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This is what the switch lookes like in my car. There are two switches to the right of the wheel, rear defroster and doome light.
Hope it helps.
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ply57nz
Posted 2014-04-14 3:13 PM (#436006 - in reply to #435991)
Subject: Re: Rear screen defroster



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Thanks guys I was hoping it was just a simple switch as I didn't fancy my chances of finding a factory made switch specific for the purpose
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1960fury
Posted 2014-04-14 3:29 PM (#436013 - in reply to #436006)
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ply57nz - 2014-04-14 3:13 PM

Thanks guys I was hoping it was just a simple switch as I didn't fancy my chances of finding a factory made switch specific for the purpose


just use a relay and connect to the defroster button.
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fin junkie
Posted 2014-04-14 7:49 PM (#436094 - in reply to #435940)
Subject: RE: Rear screen defroster


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This is a post from a while back but has some good pictures and info.

http://forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=19242&post... defroster&highlightmode=1#M122446
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1960fury
Posted 2014-04-14 8:00 PM (#436097 - in reply to #436013)
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1960fury - 2014-04-14 3:29 PM

ply57nz - 2014-04-14 3:13 PM

Thanks guys I was hoping it was just a simple switch as I didn't fancy my chances of finding a factory made switch specific for the purpose


just use a relay and connect to the defroster button.


of course no the button, connect to defroster terminal.
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ttotired
Posted 2014-04-14 8:16 PM (#436103 - in reply to #435940)
Subject: Re: Rear screen defroster



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Might have a learning experience her

Are the 2 spare terminal on the heater control for the defroster?

I also have a defroster to go into my dodge

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d500neil
Posted 2014-04-14 9:04 PM (#436114 - in reply to #436103)
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Mick, many years ago I stalled Horie's defroster system.

Back then, wasn't aware that a simple toggle switch could be used to operate the blower motor.

Wired the blower to the dashboard's Blower switch.

Anyway, discovered that the defroster motor was LOUD; at least as loud as the Heater blower is, at full-blast.

Decided that since my need to USE that rear window defroster was nil, out West, and virtually everywhere else, where
our cars would not be used as truly (winter-nasty) daily-drivers....I disconnected the blower wire and the rear window
'defroster' has been nothing more than a parcel shelf ornament since then.



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ttotired
Posted 2014-04-15 5:36 AM (#436162 - in reply to #435940)
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I have actually been toying with the idea to put an a/c evaporator between the motor and the outlet to make a rear a/c

All pie in the sky at the moment, but either way, I have it, so it will find its way into the car as it goes together

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jimntempe
Posted 2014-04-15 3:54 PM (#436226 - in reply to #435940)
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It's really not enough blower to effectively use the capacity of the A/C evap. For all the work you'd do to get the A/C back there you'd be way ahead to use a decent blower.
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ttotired
Posted 2014-04-15 4:16 PM (#436229 - in reply to #435940)
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I have a better blower motor as well

I actually havnt even tested the defroster yet, strange for me, I normally like to play with my new toys when I get them

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LD3 Greg
Posted 2014-04-16 12:29 AM (#436316 - in reply to #436229)
Subject: Re: Rear screen defroster


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Didn't the rear A/C units use 2 blowers? Anyway, Mick, if you can make it work it is a perfect setup. I, personally, have driven with a chap who used a 56?? Or so rear evaporator and dual blower assembly as his only A/C system. It was comfortable in 95 and horribly humid conditions.
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ply57nz
Posted 2014-04-16 3:25 AM (#436346 - in reply to #436316)
Subject: Re: Rear screen defroster



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Thanks for the link fin junkie, I have saved all the pics so I can look back on them when the time comes to install.
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