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Suddenly_its_1960!
Posted 2014-10-31 2:45 AM (#460652)
Subject: 1960 Dodge Dart master cylinder info needed


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Hi,I have a 1960 Dodge Dart Phoenix with factory power brakes. I need to replace my master cylinder because it has started leaking inside the car but the only master cylinders I can find listed for power brakes do not have the pushrod attached like mine.
I know on the earlier cars like 57-58 plymouths,Dodges,etc with power brakes had an adjustable pushrod that simply slid out of the master cylinder when it was removed,did this change for 1960? My car has a non adjustable pushrod which is attached directly to the master cylinder and doesn't pull out. The only master cylinder I can find online with the pushrod attached is listed as being for manual brakes! Am I correct in assuming there is no difference between the power brakes and manual brakes m/c except for the pushrod? Did Chrysler just start using one master cylinder in 1960 or was there also a power brake version with pushrod attached?
The master listed on Rock Autos website is Centric #13063053 for manual brakes (with pushrod) and #13063002 for power brakes (no pushrod)

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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1960fury
Posted 2014-10-31 6:24 AM (#460657 - in reply to #460652)
Subject: RE: 1960 Dodge Dart master cylinder info needed



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all 60/61 power brake systems i've ever seen had the adjustable pushrod, so i assume yours has been changed.
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ttotired
Posted 2014-10-31 6:50 AM (#460658 - in reply to #460652)
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Mines the same (adjustable push rod) on the dodge and plymouth

Although, I have never seen the push rod being sold on ebay (I need one, lent it to someone and it never came back)

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Suddenly_its_1960!
Posted 2014-10-31 9:11 AM (#460663 - in reply to #460652)
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Thanks guys,so it looks like I need to find the correct adjustable pushrod for my car so I can buy the correct master cylinder. Can someone post a photo of it? Or is it the exact same part with the same dimensions used on the 57,58,59 mopars?
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ttotired
Posted 2014-10-31 5:06 PM (#460697 - in reply to #460652)
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I dont know the dimentions of the 60 one actually

I am not keen to take it out to photograph

John at Big M automotive might have one to sell you?

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Posted 2014-11-01 12:14 AM (#460726 - in reply to #460652)
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from a 60 dart , length from center of pin to tip is @ 6 1/8" , it'll extend to @ 6 5/8" , maybe a touch more but no shorter than 6 1/8"-------------------------------------------------------later



(brake rod and oiler 002 (500x375).jpg)



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fenix
Posted 2014-11-01 12:42 AM (#460727 - in reply to #460652)
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So a 60 is adjustable and a 61 ain't, that's just great!!!
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Posted 2014-11-01 1:41 AM (#460733 - in reply to #460652)
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get in touch with these people and get the specs on this one , might work----------------------------------------------later

http://www.doctordiff.com/62-70-adjustable-master-cylinder-push-rod...

406-883-4772

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1960fury
Posted 2014-11-01 7:21 AM (#460742 - in reply to #460727)
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fenix - 2014-11-01 12:42 AM

So a 60 is adjustable and a 61 ain't, that's just great!!!


no.

manual brakes=not adjustable, power brakes=adjustable pushrod
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Suddenly_its_1960!
Posted 2014-11-01 10:04 AM (#460746 - in reply to #460726)
Subject: Re: 1960 Dodge Dart master cylinder info needed


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Thanks everyone for all the information,especially 60 Dart for taking to the trouble to upload the photo and get the dimensions for me. It makes it much easier when I know exactly what I'm looking for!

I will give them a call and see if that pushrod will work if not I will try look up that big m shop mentioned earlier and see if they have one. My Dart and I thank you all!
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Phatton
Posted 2014-11-01 10:13 AM (#460747 - in reply to #460652)
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According to my exchange manual there is a difference between the 58 -61 power and non power brake Dodge master cylinders. The power brake master cylinders interchange with: all Dodge and Desoto 55 thru early 58, Chry 56 thru early 58 and dodge truck (100 series) master cylinders and of course 58 to 61 power master cylinders from Dodge, PLym, Desoto,and Chrys. . Hope this helps.
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Suddenly_its_1960!
Posted 2014-11-04 8:53 AM (#460966 - in reply to #460652)
Subject: Re: 1960 Dodge Dart master cylinder info needed


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Thanks again to 60Dart for uploading a photo for me. I was able to find the exact original part thanks to you. Now I can fix my brakes. I was told the Centric master cylinders are made in China. Anyone here know the bendix,raybestos or Wagner part numbers for a 60 with power brakes,and if those brands are still made in America?

Edited by Suddenly_its_1960! 2014-11-04 8:55 AM
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Richbo
Posted 2015-01-07 8:58 AM (#466913 - in reply to #460652)
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If it is a driver , for safety you should put in a #1323 dual mc (late 60's mopar with all drums - about $30). Bolts in , then just plug the T port that led to the rears and connect the rears to the other port on the mc. Adapters are used. You will need to make a bracket to mount a brake-lights-switch to the steering column at the pedal.
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littlecarl
Posted 2015-01-08 8:09 AM (#466989 - in reply to #460652)
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I did the same as Richbo above but my brake light switch was fitted in a 5 way tee piece so left that was it was. Switch just works off the pressure from the front brakes.
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