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60 Imp
Posted 2014-12-19 5:21 AM (#465185)
Subject: 58 Dodge


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Lancer Mike
Posted 2014-12-19 11:58 AM (#465212 - in reply to #465185)
Subject: RE: 58 Dodge



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The pictures are really great this time. The puffery is starting to kick in now; they have ditched the standard wheel covers and put on a set of 1957 spinners with claims of "factory spinners". Still, this is a really great car - it needs to find an owner instead of a flipper.



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LD3 Greg
Posted 2014-12-19 4:37 PM (#465235 - in reply to #465212)
Subject: RE: 58 Dodge


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Lovely car! Amazing panel fit all around. We don't see that too often!

Greg
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2014-12-19 6:15 PM (#465242 - in reply to #465235)
Subject: RE: 58 Dodge



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It really is an amazing car. The image above (must be just after sunset or just before sunrise) really makes the beige and sand colors look rich! The number of images in this auction is outstanding. This is the first time I have seen pictures of the damaged headliner. I wonder if that damage occurred during the detailed cleaning? They talk about replacing the headliner, but I would just keep it.

I put in a bid of $15,000 - but I knew it would not meet the reserve.
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imopar380
Posted 2014-12-19 6:43 PM (#465245 - in reply to #465185)
Subject: Re: 58 Dodge



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This has got to be one of the nicest looking 4 door Forward Look sedans of all time!! I'd love to own it. Too bad about the headliner, but I'm wondering if the damage was from being damp? The first time this car was put on auction the photos showed mildew all over the door panels, which has obviously been cleaned off now. I'd have the headliner replaced, if it was mine. Notice that the dash pad is in bad shape as well, especially around the speedometer hump. It almost looks as if someone did an amateur re-cover of the dash pad rather than age cracking etc.

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-12-19 7:07 PM (#465249 - in reply to #465245)
Subject: Re: 58 Dodge



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Am I right in seeing yet ANOTHER Spring Special trimmed car ???
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christine-lover
Posted 2014-12-19 8:47 PM (#465260 - in reply to #465249)
Subject: Re: 58 Dodge



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Doctor DeSoto - 2014-12-19 7:07 PM

Am I right in seeing yet ANOTHER Spring Special trimmed car ???


Yeah, but a lot of these cars get thrown back into the market, they aren't kept for long. This one was for sale this year 2 other times.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2014-12-21 1:29 PM (#465430 - in reply to #465249)
Subject: Re: 58 Dodge



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Doctor DeSoto - 2014-12-19 5:07 PM

Am I right in seeing yet ANOTHER Spring Special trimmed car ???


Easy Doc! You are going to make me regret changing mine into a spring special!
At least this one came from the factory as such.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2014-12-21 3:51 PM (#465449 - in reply to #465430)
Subject: Re: 58 Dodge



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I am unclear why anyone would want that bulky, rounded trim. It SO clashes with the jaunty lines
that make a 58 Dodge so "58 Dodge" !!! Of all the car lines, Dodge got the "edgiest" styling. The teeth,
the bar grille, the truncated saddle fins, the jet tube tail lights. The standard trim was crisp and thin
and followed the lines with such synchronicity. The Spring Special trim is disproportionately bulky and
just looks like an afterthought. The billboard out back is excessive just for the sake of being excessive ...
I just don't see the attraction, especially when the standard fare is so complimentary of the overall shape
of the car.

I know a lot of people would chrome the whole #@! car because they think 50's = excess chrome. I
just see some of Exner's finest products as being that refined balance of "not too much" and the crispness
of the lines and that is my attraction to the Forward Look cars in the first place. The SS trim looks like
something Ford or GM would have done. And that IS the reality of the matter, ... it was a mid-year
response to try and pull some of the people away from otherwise buying an excessively over-trimmed
1958 GM or Ford. Historically correct ... yes. Best design as applied to that canvas ... not so much.

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Lancer Mike
Posted 2014-12-21 5:30 PM (#465465 - in reply to #465449)
Subject: Re: 58 Dodge



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Eh, dif'rent strokes for dif'rent folks! I think the wide trim really does the saddle two-tone very well, especially as it complements the sweep under the back of the fin.
Now, the fin end caps by themselves or the license plat escutcheon by itself provokes some discord to my eye, but together seem to energize the back end a bit.
Several 1957 Dodge owners added the escutcheon over the years, but few to none went the extra step with the fin end caps.
The little grille emblem is a nice touch to the 1958 grille.

Yes, altogether it is a lot of gingerbread; but I like all the spring packages for 1958 - perhaps just because the kick up the rarity a bit in a rare year to begin with - just as they kicked up the desperation a bit at the Chrysler Corporation in a very desperate year. I had not thought of the "GMizing" of the product. I had previously thought Chrysler was rushing to put a fresher look on the year-and-a-half old product line. I am sure there were many factors.

The Silver Special was a bit humble.
I really like the Chrysler treatment, especially on the basic monotone Saratogas.
I like the anodized aluminum trim on the De Sotos.
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