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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-02-10 11:15 PM (#469832 - in reply to #469457)
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Jim, I think you're right. I didn't think that I would like the extra gold, with a silver and black car, but then I found this picture.
I think that these are the colors that I would like to use for this 58 Desoto.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-03-16 1:33 PM (#472597 - in reply to #469832)
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Well, I sat the car outside for a while. There is one thing I noticed about this car and my parts car.
This car has a good tinted windshield, but all the other glass is clear. My parts car has a clear windshield,
but all the rest are tinted. Weird, huh? So, of course, I will put all the tinted glass on the Spring Special.
In the mean time, the car is freezing. I am working on selling the 59 Dodge Custom Royal 4dr hardtop.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-05-02 10:51 PM (#477194 - in reply to #472597)
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Sorry, No work done on the car, But I finally received my new Title (with the correct VIN).
Now it is time to get in touch with Chrysler Historical and get the true info on this car.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-05-30 7:56 PM (#479880 - in reply to #477194)
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Well, as it turns out, the only thing wrong about this car was the title.

It did start it's life in Norfolk, VA.
F. A. Roethke Inc.
DeSoto - Plymouth

I wonder how long they had that title and thinking that it was correct for this car?





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Posted 2015-05-30 10:19 PM (#479897 - in reply to #479880)
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Very interesting Kurt.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-05-30 11:06 PM (#479906 - in reply to #479880)
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Wow, this dealership was started in 1911, selling Hupmobiles.

Here is another ad in the 1958 phone book.



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d500neil
Posted 2015-05-31 1:38 PM (#479955 - in reply to #479906)
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Can you do a quick search for Ben Medow, of South Bend, IN??

A PM is fine...

Medow had a big dealership, but owing to his/its location, in the rust belt, Custer probably
stood a better chance at long term survival.

BTW, your car is coded to have tinted and shaded windshield; I'll get its OEM tire sizes
and axle ratio, to you, later today.







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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-06-01 12:55 AM (#480022 - in reply to #479955)
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My notes indicate:

Axle ratio as 3.31 to 1

5 Rayon tires 850X14

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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-06-01 11:33 AM (#480048 - in reply to #479955)
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Neil, I sent you an Email.

The Solex Glass 5: , does it just say the Windshield, or does it say something about the other glass?
Because all the other glass on the car is clear. My windshield is tinted.

I have seen other peoples info on their 58 Desoto, my question is Why does Chrysler Historical put N/A
on items that they already know the information, (because they put it on the other peoples info.) ?
They should have a master list for each of these cars.

The Steering Wheel: 1 = Special Plastic , Doctor Desoto noted at one point (when Dustin had the car)
that this steering wheel was the cheaper rubber wheel that is found on the Firesweep models. So somebody
has replaced the wheel at some point. Now, this Special Plastic, does that mean it was two tone plastic?
What color plastic was it? It would have to go with the red and gray interior. BTW that "gray" looks black
to me.

Has anyone figured out what the 9 is under ST , or the 4 under the B ?

This is how the info should read.



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d500neil
Posted 2015-06-01 6:29 PM (#480088 - in reply to #465620)
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Tinted and Shaded windshield ONLY is correct; if all the other glass in the car were tinted, (and with a shaded W/S) the code would
have been a "7" for your "Solex"glass.


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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-06-05 12:33 AM (#480465 - in reply to #480088)
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Dealer ads on back of the magazine People and Places.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-06-23 10:00 PM (#482571 - in reply to #480465)
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Back of July 1958, People and Places. The Desoto is showing off its Spring Special side trim.



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Peter Panov
Posted 2015-07-01 10:47 AM (#483310 - in reply to #465620)
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I like the gold accent too.
Is there any progress on the car?
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-07-04 3:16 PM (#483617 - in reply to #483310)
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Sorry. I have not been working on the car, but I have been collecting parts.
So far I have received the inside arm rest, the trunk bars and rocker mouldings for the Spring Special,
and a good trunk lid.
I still need the L-trim for the drivers side B-pillar. I would like to get better doors, and a better door handle
for the drivers side. I need both of the Firedome scripts for the quarter panels. And I need the Firedome trim
for the front fenders (same as a 4dr Firedome).
The rest, I will figure out as I go.
I am going to Carlisle Friday, so let me know if anyone has any parts, and I will pick them up there.





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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-09-05 1:38 PM (#488967 - in reply to #483617)
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I talked with the son of the original owner. He confirmed everything we found out from Chrysler Historical.
He confirmed that the interior was red and black. The car was painted black and white. The engine was replaced
in the 1960s because of a bad winter that froze the block and it cracked. The interior was reupholstered to
black and white. And later, the car was repainted again with black and white. I can confirm that when the car
was painted one time, that it was taken apart and the interior,(except the dash), was removed. Below is a picture
of the ignition switch that I removed from the car. Notice how it has been over sprayed with the white paint. They
got that white paint everywhere. It's also on the wires and the vent system under the dash.
Bill (the son), also said that his Dad drove the car every day to work, which was only about 5 miles, from 1958 to 1990.
It was also used on the Honeymoon. It was only taken on one or two vacations, but not very far. That puts the mileage
at about 110,160 miles.
So if all of this information has been confirmed, why is the VIN on the title wrong and that same number is on the
inspection receipt? When they do an inspection, they don't look at the title, they look at the plate on the car. Is it
possible that the title was with the car that day, and so they didn't bother looking for the plate? It was dated 2002, so
the mechanics probably didn't know where to look for it.
So the update on the car is that I recently bought a new door handle for the drivers door. Since I did not have any keys
that worked any of the locks I took a couple of old locks from the other cars and rebuilt a good set of locks, so now the
ignition key is the same as the doors,(as it is suppose to be). And now I have two decent looking handles too.



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Posted 2015-09-07 12:17 PM (#489119 - in reply to #465620)
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a few pics of Roethke



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Posted 2015-10-19 5:16 PM (#492659 - in reply to #479880)
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hi where where did you get the production report
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-11-04 10:15 AM (#494144 - in reply to #492659)
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Mbc40 - 2015-10-19 5:16 PM

hi where where did you get the production report



http://www.fcanorthamerica.com/company/Heritage/Pages/Historical-Se...


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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-11-04 11:03 AM (#494151 - in reply to #488967)
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Well, as you may know, I sold the 59 Custom Royal. So I put the 1958 Desoto Firedome Spring Special back in the garage.
I am continuing to tear it down. I need to bitch a little bit more first. I keep finding new things that the young guy in MN did
to it before he sold it. Now I know why he dropped the price down so low. He burnt the wires in the ignition system. Heaven
only knows what other parts got burnt up. Do you remember the gas tank that he was doing electrolysis on? He said it had
pin holes in it, so he threw it away. I asked him if he knew about the POR15 gas tank sealer? He said no, but I seen an earlier
post (on another site) of where he was going to use the POR15. I hate liars. Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest.
So, as you know, I am in the tear down phase. Here are some things that I have to fix along the way.




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Peter Panov
Posted 2015-11-05 3:33 AM (#494216 - in reply to #465620)
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Wow, this car really needs a lot of attention.
But it is great that you are confident you have so save it.
Good luck on this Kurt and keep us informed about the progress!
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-12-13 12:29 AM (#497825 - in reply to #494216)
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Well everybody, it has been a year since I got this car. I am continuing to take the car apart. Being in the Virginia Beach area
all of its life was not good for this car. I am finding sand in all the nooks and crannies. Besides the sand, I also found a bottle
opener and a chewed up pencil inside the vents.
I cut the rubber seal from the front windshield and as I was pulling it away from the glass, I put a crack in it. It seems that no matter
how careful I am, that always happens. Why couldn't that have happened to the back glass instead, I was going to replace
that anyway? Whenever I get finished crying, I will start looking for a replacement.
The guys that repainted this car were good at rigging things. They put gobs of sealant on the seals to hold the trim on around
the windows.
I am getting a friend of mine to do the sand blasting of the car in January.





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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-12-18 4:09 PM (#498390 - in reply to #497825)
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After removing all the removable parts from the body,(except the doors) I pushed it outside and hosed it down.
Hopefully I got the salt and remaining sand washed off the car.
Of course, I had to clean up the floor again. It's funny when you work on one side of the car and parts fall off the other side.



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Posted 2015-12-18 5:30 PM (#498404 - in reply to #498390)
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Nice work, Kurt!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." - Winston Churchill

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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-12-21 11:23 PM (#498713 - in reply to #498404)
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I was curious if this Spring Special had all three of the Spring Special items. It, obviously, has the aluminum sweep inserts
and the trim bars on the trunk, but the rocker panel trim was missing. The rockers were so rusty that you just could not
tell if they were there or not. But when I removed the last front fender, I found a screw hole. It is in the perfect place for
the rocker trim to be installed. So that means that this Spring Special DID have all three items installed.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-12-25 11:25 PM (#499109 - in reply to #498713)
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Hey Doc, you might be happy to hear that my replacement trunk lid came from a Chrysler 300.
As you can see, I have welded the 300 emblem holes closed and I have drilled the new holes for
the DESOTO and the Spring Special bars.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-12-28 12:40 AM (#499278 - in reply to #498404)
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Lancer Mike - 2015-12-18 5:30 PM

Nice work, Kurt!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." - Winston Churchill



Mike, Thanks. But I don't think that it is even the end of the beginning. I am still cutting off the bad sections. At this rate,
I'm not sure that there is going to be anything left. But I am having fun. Over the Christmas Holiday, I was able to work
on it without the heater running. It has been, unseasonably warm here. I have been in short sleeves the past few days.
That's crazy. I love it. What a Christmas present.
(Sorry Doctor DeSoto, I don't mean to rub it in).

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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-12-28 12:55 AM (#499280 - in reply to #499278)
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My new passenger side floors are just laying in there for now.
I removed the glass from the doors. The drivers window was not even seated in a track. They just put sealant on the
bottom of it and tried to stick it to the window regulator frame.
I have been coming across a lot of screws that are so rusty that they break, or strip.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-12-28 12:58 AM (#499281 - in reply to #499280)
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I bought some Nickel color spray paint. I like it the best so far.

The yellow paint in the trunk is where I will be cutting.



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Posted 2015-12-28 1:00 PM (#499316 - in reply to #499280)
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So did you get the right inner rockers finished? Can I see them if you did? I will be doing the same thing on the left side of mine, although I think my floor is actually still good.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2015-12-28 2:37 PM (#499327 - in reply to #499316)
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No, I never got back to the rockers yet. I guess that was a little misleading, but I put those floor panels in there to
make sure that I had enough metal to cover the holes. I bought the inner rockers from Classic parts4U. It comes
in three pieces. I am working from back to front on them. I set the first two in there, but for the front, I got as far
as taking measurements to cut it properly. It comes to a point in the front. I also bought floor braces from Eriksson
in Finland. I do plan on taking pictures as I go and posting them here. I am very slow at getting things done, so
maybe you will beat me to it. I hope to get this body sand blasted first, so I can see some good metal to
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2016-01-03 12:35 AM (#499811 - in reply to #499327)
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I did some work on the passenger rocker panel again. The front part needed to come to a point. So after some measuring
and cutting and clamping and recutting and reclamping, I finally have them set where they need to go.... I think.



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Posted 2016-01-03 11:02 PM (#499896 - in reply to #499811)
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That looks like a pretty good fit. Nice job.

You might want to replace that rusted horizontal section first though.

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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2016-01-03 11:55 PM (#499899 - in reply to #499896)
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Yes, I will be replacing some of the other pieces around there.
Here are the dimensions for the inner rockers. Also, the front panel starts an upward angle at about the drain plug that
is located under the front seat area.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2016-01-04 12:20 AM (#499903 - in reply to #499899)
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Posted 2016-01-11 10:33 AM (#500685 - in reply to #499903)
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The things that you find when restoring a car.
Some writing inside the speedometer housing. It looks like 10-13-59 , so somebody must have repaired it.
But what is the rest of the writing ?

Somebody broke off a drill bit in the floor. And they just left it there. Why were they drilling a hole there?





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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2016-01-12 12:49 AM (#500802 - in reply to #499899)
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Nathan, Remember to test fit your door sills before welding the inner rockers in place.
I welded my pieces together, then tried the door sills. I had to re-cut them to get the right angle on them.



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Posted 2016-01-12 1:12 AM (#500805 - in reply to #500802)
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That's good to know. Thanks for the warning. I wouldn't have thought of doing it until it was too late.
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Posted 2016-02-29 11:09 AM (#505480 - in reply to #500802)
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I thought that you guys might like to see these pictures. I installed some extra bracing in my ceiling and used some straps and
a come-along to hang the body from the rafters. I have to get it just a little higher so I can push the frame outside and then put
a rotisserie under it. The rotisserie belongs to the sandblaster guy, but I am thinking that I need one. The body still needs to go
to the sandblasters and I can work on the frame. The sandblaster guy said he is not going to do it until it gets warmer. (His booth
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Posted 2016-02-29 11:27 AM (#505481 - in reply to #505480)
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Do you have a replacement panel for the right quarter? A 4dr panel would get you all the way to the front of the wheel well. That's how I did it on my '57 Windsor.
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Posted 2016-02-29 11:40 AM (#505482 - in reply to #505481)
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Powerflite - 2016-02-29 11:27 AM

Do you have a replacement panel for the right quarter? A 4dr panel would get you all the way to the front of the wheel well. That's how I did it on my '57 Windsor.




Not yet. I also need to replace the outside part of the wheel wells. (They have holes in the top of them, where the braces attach to them).
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2016-03-02 12:38 AM (#505605 - in reply to #505482)
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The exciting look and feel of the future.
You know, that after buying this 58 DeSoto, I just HAD to have the button.



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Posted 2016-03-02 1:06 AM (#505606 - in reply to #505605)
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That button is cool. I really like this full size standup. I wish I had a better resolution picture of it.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2016-03-02 8:56 PM (#505682 - in reply to #505606)
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Powerflite - 2016-03-02 1:06 AM

That button is cool. I really like this full size standup. I wish I had a better resolution picture of it.



Do you have this in your possession, if so, where did you come across it?


I would like to find a showroom banner.
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Posted 2016-03-02 9:25 PM (#505689 - in reply to #505682)
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Apparently, someone at Carlisle had it. I just got the picture of it on the net. Here is another one from 1956 too. I would bet that guy did light Groucho's cigar at the start of '57.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2016-03-02 10:24 PM (#505693 - in reply to #505689)
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Yes, I did see the 58 Groucho at Carlisle. I'm sure it belongs to the guy with the red and white 58 DeSoto.

I took my red and white 59 Dodge. It was pretty fun, but I wish more people would have shown up.



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Posted 2016-03-07 12:30 AM (#506041 - in reply to #505693)
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Well, I pushed the frame outside today and sprayed it down with the hose. I sprayed in each one of the holes until
the chocolate milk turned back to water.



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Posted 2016-03-07 12:01 PM (#506062 - in reply to #465620)
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That was a nice '59 Dodge, Kurt, didn't realize it was yours. I drove the black '59 Plymouth convertible there.

---John
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Posted 2016-03-07 4:28 PM (#506081 - in reply to #506062)
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big m - 2016-03-07 12:01 PM

That was a nice '59 Dodge, Kurt, didn't realize it was yours. I drove the black '59 Plymouth convertible there.

---John




Yes. I remember the nice black 59 Plymouth convertible. I was honored to me the man that actually drove his car to PA from CA.
Some day I hope to drive my car all the way out there.
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Posted 2016-03-24 11:31 PM (#507872 - in reply to #506081)
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I made some fresh cuts. Some major work is going to happen next month. Stay tuned.
And wear your safety glasses.



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Posted 2016-04-11 12:09 AM (#509105 - in reply to #507872)
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My deal fell through for the sheet metal that I was going to get. Now I have to find another rear clip.
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