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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-03-26 1:25 PM (#560516 - in reply to #560495)
Subject: Re: another 1960 Chrysler appeared



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Adventurer 60 - 2018-03-25 11:44 AM Nice progress Dieter. Do not forget to weld tubes under the drain holes at trunk edge.

Hi Jari
Thanks a lot. Look, the recession are made at Wizard's. Thanks to Wizard I got the mounting hardware. My plan is the same like Wizards to connect tubes at the mounting hardware and route it through the large plastic cups on each side of the filler neck in the floor of the trunk.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

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Adventurer 60
Posted 2018-03-26 3:07 PM (#560525 - in reply to #560516)
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di_ch_NY56 - 2018-03-26 1:25 PM

Adventurer 60 - 2018-03-25 11:44 AM Nice progress Dieter. Do not forget to weld tubes under the drain holes at trunk edge.

Hi Jari
Thanks a lot. Look, the recession are made at Wizard's. Thanks to Wizard I got the mounting hardware. My plan is the same like Wizards to connect tubes at the mounting hardware and route it through the large plastic cups on each side of the filler neck in the floor of the trunk.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter



Sound good!
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-03-30 12:10 PM (#560744 - in reply to #469368)
Subject: RE: another 1960 Chrysler appeared



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Thanks Jari

Today I cleaned all the resting bolts, washers and hex nuts for the subframe and front suspension. The screws, washers and (eventually) hex nuts are still waiting.

In the meantime the body got the final layer and color. The shop applied two layers, because the primer is almost white. Now the underside looks wonderful, the color is charcoal. I guess I'm going to inform the shop, that the final layer of color will be applied to the body with the front end mounted. This is ways better than from the factory (because really all body parts at least got a layer of primer, no blind spots like from the factory...) , but not as perfect as a Jan Fridberg restoration and Christers painting shop.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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1960fury
Posted 2018-03-30 12:38 PM (#560747 - in reply to #560744)
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the unibodys were dipped (not complete) in primer and baked in ovens, so theoretically primer blind spots in the lower parts are not possible. that factoy backed on primer is almost like galvanized.
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-03-31 2:05 AM (#560806 - in reply to #560747)
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Yes,

But most of us discovered bare metal areas (roof inside, under the parcel shelf, both sides at the firewall, covered by the inner and outer fender and more). I‘m leaving that discussion to put a question about the rear axle of my Letter....

Stamped in at the differential carrier is 3.15. That indicates a 3.15 differential ratio. At the fragment of the broadcast sheet I only could discover „ratio“ and the code is 523. I read it multiple to make sure that I didn‘t do a misread. Is the 3.15 axle that came from the factory or was it another, according the broadcast sheet?

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

corrected... 523, not 529



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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-03-31 3:04 PM (#560838 - in reply to #469368)
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This week I had a big fortune to find an appropriate rubber rope to build a gasket (weatherstrip) between the bezel and the glass of the tachometer mounted in the center console. Ways earlier on I catched a tachometer at epain for a good price (because the pointer fell off and some rust issues at the bezel).

I managed to mount the pointer again and good luck - it lights up as the scale does. I did a service and the input shaft rotates again. Now I cleaned the bezel, applied filler primer (I guess I need several layers to compensate the marks of the rust eating...

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

BTW: the matt black originally applied at the bezel is not water resistant....



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(IMG_4839_second tach bezel.JPG)



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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-04-01 12:21 PM (#560884 - in reply to #469368)
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Today we mounted the subframe, the front suspension /w the steering gear and the rear axle back to my Letter.

First we wanted to mount the dustshields and steering arm, but - a quiz - why are the screws too long now? A sunny idea and bang -- the brake mouning plate is not in place. So we chatched em and finished the front suspension, with one exception... the upper rubber at the stabilizer holders is still missing (in my second order this year for Gary Goers).

The rear axle is back in place as well. After we got out, that the National 7216 pinion seal doesn't fit (outside diameter) we searched another one... SKF 18708. I figured out that the rear axle of my Letter is a 8.25 Plymouth axle and not the factory Chrysler 8.75 rear axle.

Happy Restoring! (always some surprises)

Dieter



Edited by di_ch_NY56 2018-04-01 2:58 PM




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(IMG_4846_front brake shield mounted.JPG)



(IMG_4847_frame and front suspension almost finished.JPG)



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Beltran
Posted 2018-04-01 5:40 PM (#560900 - in reply to #469368)
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Looking good Dieter
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-04-04 5:49 AM (#561123 - in reply to #469368)
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Thanks a lot to all.

Now just th the super gau has happened. E.G. the screws from the radiator yoke to the inner fenders, the screws ontop of the fenders near the windshield frame hve gone.

Source? 

 

Thanks a lot

Dieter

 

Edit: please pm me, thank you very much



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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-04-07 2:47 AM (#561240 - in reply to #469368)
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Evidence of the work last weekend... almost finished at the assembly (rolling body). At the last picture of that weekend you'll discover the shop owner.

You might notice that not all screws at the radiator yoke and front fenders to the inner fender are mounted... missing! (you could claim, you're self responsible because you didn't disassemble and assemble everything yourself).

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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60Mopars
Posted 2018-04-07 4:34 AM (#561243 - in reply to #561240)
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Impressive work you are doing! Soon you can take your F on a trip to Sweden

Jan in Sweden

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-04-07 1:40 PM (#561253 - in reply to #561243)
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60Mopars - 2018-04-06 10:34 AM Impressive work you are doing! Soon you can take your F on a trip to Sweden Jan in Sweden

A trip to Sweden is on my wish list for sure. But I affraid, for sure not next year. Today I had the first talk with one guy about the final painting. The painting company is run by two brothers. Personally I think I could be happy if I could drive my Letter the first time within five years.

Actually I didn't get an update from the engine restoring company. The last information was, that all pistons now are out (the piston #1 had to be broken in parts prior to remove it), the rotating assembly and other parts are ordered.

Bigger parts missing

- the windshield, the gas tank, the brake lines, the gutter rails (not necessary to drive, but to finisth the Letter) and the door to quarter panel fillers (two on each side, one at the door, one at the quarter panel). In the meantime I was able to catch a straight rear bumer (:-).

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-04-08 10:34 AM (#561273 - in reply to #469368)
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One more thou about my Letter....

For sure I could buy a complete interior, but without new rubber foam seat cushions (preferred from Gray Goers shop - no clues who ever will run his business...) it makes no sense to mount the new seat covers.  But as long as I do not get my second order, I‘m not willing to spend more money to Gary Goers shop....

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-04-30 6:28 AM (#562516 - in reply to #469368)
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Over the weekend I sanded the bezel of the second tachometer twice or three times with applying one more layer of filler out of a rattle can to straighten the bumps out of the bezel. This early morning I applied Rally black (mat black) and assembled it later this morning. Fortunately I found a rubber rope to fit between the chromed ring and the lens glass.

Final check and photo...

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-05-11 10:16 AM (#563136 - in reply to #469368)
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Easy to see, after the starter motor I brushed the cooling fan a second time. This time with the drilling machine and two different shapes of wire brushes. But I assume I have to use emerald paper as well.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-05-21 12:06 PM (#563761 - in reply to #469368)
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In the meantime I purchased a complete 8 3/4" rear end (out of a 1960 Windsor) from Big M to replace the 6 cylinder 1960 Dodge 8 1/4" rear axle. The 8 1/4" rear axle I hope I could sell after I got and installed the rear axle from Big M.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-06-03 9:44 AM (#564461 - in reply to #560884)
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di_ch_NY56 - 2018-03-31 6:21 PM

Today we mounted the subframe, the front suspension /w the steering gear and the rear axle back to my Letter.

First we wanted to mount the dustshields and steering arm, but - a quiz - why are the screws too long now? A sunny idea and bang -- the brake mouning plate is not in place. So we chatched em and finished the front suspension, with one exception... the upper rubber at the stabilizer holders is still missing (in my second order this year for Gary Goers).

The rear axle is back in place as well. After we got out, that the National 7216 pinion seal doesn't fit (outside diameter) we searched another one... SKF 18708. I figured out that the rear axle of my Letter is a 8.25 Plymouth axle and not the factory Chrysler 8.75 rear axle.

Happy Restoring! (always some surprises)

Dieter

I'm sorry and I realized that I was wrong with the judgement of the rear axle. The number on the side of the differential carrier shows 1820 657. According to many people here and my check again it's not a 8 1/4" rear end, but a small stem 8 3/4" rear axle. No wonder a Swedish friend wrote to me, I made a big mess with the axles and parts of the axle....

So the only work to perform at this axle is to exchange the axle shaft seals, the axle shaft bearings, shorten the axle shafts 1/8" to install the 742 differential carrier I purchased (/w a limited slip differential inside). To replace the axle shaft seals and axle shaft bearings is necessary, because at the shop the axle has been sand blasted.

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

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Powerflite
Posted 2018-06-03 9:56 AM (#564463 - in reply to #469368)
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Shortening the axles 1/8" is required only if your rear end originally had an open gear set. If it originally had limited slip, you don't need to shorten the axles because they would be the correct length already. Also, if you do end up needing to shorten the axles, go slow and test fit them with the available shims that you have to adjust the play. If you go too far, you may end up needing to fabricate more shims.

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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-06-05 2:11 PM (#564604 - in reply to #469368)
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Thanks a lot for your answer. Do you know, the 657/741 differential carrier was available with the Posi Traction option as well.

In my opinion most were open carriers.

When I have to shorten the axle shafts I'll bring it to a mechanical shop and will specify the shortening 1/8" (3.175 mm -0 mm, +0.05 mm); means between excatly 1/8" and 0.127" shorter (the result will be a little bit shorter; a bias to remove shims instead of adding shims).

Happy Restoring!

Dieter

BTW: are the axle shafts mild steel to use a file?



Edited by di_ch_NY56 2018-06-05 2:15 PM
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2018-06-17 9:07 AM (#565248 - in reply to #469368)
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While sweeping through the picture collection I made, one particular picture catched my attraction. It shows older damages revealed during the sand blasting. No wonder why the body worker/painter shop estimated so many hours to straighten the contour of the body... End of June or early July my Letter should go to the body/painter shop (the body/painer shop got my agreement).

Happy Restoring!

Dieter





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Adventurer 60
Posted 2018-06-18 1:38 AM (#565276 - in reply to #469368)
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Yes, thas gonna take some time to straighten it up. Would be done finished with bondo in less than hour or two

remaind your body guy to fix door corner, to make it more round. It is over doing but looks much nicer when the whole car is finished.
I even fixed the whole shape of the doors in my G project, you can check my project posts how it got
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