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The Adventurer |
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Elite Veteran,, James Passed away March 2021, He will be Missed Posts: 1028 Location: Melbourne, Australia | Not to many come for sale restored ready to go . But there are a lot of things I don't like the way this guy has done to make me question buying it unseen , so I will stick with mine and keep going and/or wait for a Fireflite to come for sale . http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261819410119?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT... | ||
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Expert Posts: 1739 Location: Alaska | What does he mean by "numbers matching" 413? The largest engine available in 58 Desotos was the 361 IIRC. Beautiful car but you are right about questions. | ||
soiouz |
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Expert Posts: 3480 Location: Montreal, Canada | Indeed, the engine is not original. This is a (rare) Canadian DeSoto Firedome, so it originally came out of the Windsor factory with a 354 c.i. engine. Beautiful car, nonetheless (except for the ridiculous wheels and tires). | ||
moparsteve |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1155 Location: somerville mass | maybe he got it confuse or thats what he was told..... could be a 354 last used in 1956 in the usa or a 361... ok something happened to the orig motor and was replaced w/a chrysler 413 from 1959-60-61 but still beautiful car... | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | Wow! that is a really wonderful car! | ||
58DeSoDodge59 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1112 Location: Wild Wonderful | Do you think it is a Spring Special, or do you think he just added the trim bars on the trunk? (s-l1601.jpg) Attachments ---------------- s-l1601.jpg (205KB - 221 downloads) | ||
firedome |
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Expert Posts: 3153 Location: NY & VT | And it has the Spring Special wide trim over the side window drip rails, but not the stainless rocker molding. Pretty car. 354 poly was last used in USA in '58 Chrysler Windsor, 354 hemi in '56 NYer, DeSoto had 341/ 345 in '57, 350/361 B- wedge engine in '58. Edited by firedome 2015-03-22 11:07 AM | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | You can almost read the block number on the front of the engine: it looks like I3962? Lots of neat touches on this car. Bumper guards in the rear, but not in the front. Fender ornaments. Hooded mirrors. Signal seeking radio. My car had the same gas and break pedals (later model). Very nice interior (great steering wheel) and wedgewood blue and pearl white paint. The mags and radials don't bother me - I kind of like the look... Someone will get a really neat car just going by the pictures. Edited by Lancer Mike 2015-03-22 2:53 PM (12 engine reduced.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 12 engine reduced.jpg (212KB - 209 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 2244 Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | "The mags and radials don't bother me - I kind of like the look... " Oh OH, that high mtn, low O2 air is getting to you Mike, or izzit cruising around in the convertible without a hat on? Those wheels and tires might be "OK" on my 64 Dodge, but no way on my 58 Chrysler or 59 Dodge! Unsigned | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | you know Gary - ever since we passed the recreational pot law, I have been a little off! When I was in high school, I had a set of American racing wheels and radials on my 58 Lancer sedan - it looked pretty cool. In college, I switched back to standard wheels, wide whites and wheel covers and never looked back. Still, a set of 14" chrome wheels and radials are so easy to switch back and forth, they don't bother me at all. As Doc often points out, the '58 De Soto wheel covers were not exactly the bees knees, so this look is not offensive to me. Edited by Lancer Mike 2015-03-22 8:58 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 2244 Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | Well, now that I think of it, the 57 Hub caps were nothing to write home about either, at least to me as a 20 year old kid. I think it's the blackwalls that bother me the most. (1957 Desoto Front left (taken about 1962).JPG) Attachments ---------------- 1957 Desoto Front left (taken about 1962).JPG (69KB - 231 downloads) | ||
The Adventurer |
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Elite Veteran,, James Passed away March 2021, He will be Missed Posts: 1028 Location: Melbourne, Australia | The car is indeed a Rare Canadian car and would have been a 354 Spitfire Motor . The 413 is a great choice , but not original as he claimed . The car Mike is in fact Haze blue , Wedgewood blue is the light non metallic colour. I have seen the 100 resto photos and as I suspected , its had some nasty poorly done bodywork . On ebay the car appears ok , but the only give away is look at the right hand door/rocker and you will see it doesn't look right . But in the trunk , the floors etc.. it has had patch panels very poorly just laid over and welded in . For a car that has had $70K spent its a shame someone did poor body work as many of the details on the car look ok . The details on things like the seats , cheap carpet , full rusty exhaust system /manifolds , poor engine ebay detail say to may that the car has been worked on by the wrong people for the most part . Its a shame as I think it may have been a rare well optioned original car before these guys started on it . | ||
ToMopar |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1153 Location: D-70199 Heslach | James, could you share some of your 100+ pictures, or email me the pics | ||
The Adventurer |
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Elite Veteran,, James Passed away March 2021, He will be Missed Posts: 1028 Location: Melbourne, Australia | Pics sent to your email Tom . Look carefully Edited by The Adventurer 2015-03-23 7:36 PM | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Roger, I have never known the roof mouldings to be part of the Spring Special trim goodies. They were just a normal option, as far as I know. As I know it, the 58 DeSoto SS "kit" included rocker trim, decklid bars, color sweep aluminum inserts, and 3-4 Spring Special paint colors. One could buy one or all of the pieces. Few are seen with all of the SS goodies. | ||
firedome |
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Expert Posts: 3153 Location: NY & VT | Brent: That may well be true for DeS, it seems for Chrysler all the SS/Dartline hardtop models (2 and 4 dr) had wide roof rail trim as part of the SS package, at least I've never seen one without one. They also had what I call the Art Deco Eagle center hood ornament as well, and no fender ornament., as well as Aqua and Frost Tan special Spring colors. | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | The SS DeSoto didn't seem to garner much excitement from the buying public. I see a LOT more SS Dodges, and I really would not know a SS Chrysler if I saw one. Anyway, I've never seen paperwork to include the roof mouldings with the other SS gear mentioned above, but I wasn't there, so I really can't say for sure. | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | Dodge production figures were plentiful compared to Chrysler and De Soto, so it is no small wonder we see more spring special Dodges and Plymouths. Add into the mix there are turkeys like me out there who convert their nice non-spring Dodges to springers just to mix things up! I think De Soto may have a body code for spring specials, but I don't know for sure. If so, I would expect all the ss trim to be on a spring special coded car. Then, like Dodges, you have lots of non-spring coded cars that may have all the trim or some of the trim or one spring trim item. A spring trim car may not necessarily have a spring paint code and a non-spring trim car may have the spring paint. | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I suspect a lot of SS cars were dressed up at the dealer, either to create more showroom interest for in-stock cars, or to suit individual buyer's requests to add this or that or the whole package. As we know, it is a rare car that got the whole enchilada, especially the color sweep inserts on the DeSoto. | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | Tru dat! | ||
The Adventurer |
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Elite Veteran,, James Passed away March 2021, He will be Missed Posts: 1028 Location: Melbourne, Australia | The car got pulled from ebay , I wonder if it sold ? The 58 Desoto Firedome Sedan at Teds tuna boats sold also , as did the 58 Red Fireflite Sedan which was for sale online in the US . So to my accounts , there are no 58 Desotos for sale anywhere at this time that I have seen . | ||
Rebels-59 |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Location: .Norfolk..Mafia.. ,England UK | The Adventurer - 2015-03-28 12:43 PM So to my accounts , there are no 58 Desotos for sale anywhere at this time that I have seen . Only other i know of is for sale in Netherlands, This Ad went live on March 7th.. 1958 DeSoto Firesweep Convertible - 135.000 euro http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C285959 . . | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | And to think you could not GIVE these cars away in 1975 and people would key my paint and spit on them well into the 80's. In my search for the Fireflite, many I contacted told stories of crushing them because nobody wanted a #@! DeSoto !!! My friends thought I'd lost my mind paying what I did for it when I finally found one (after nearly ten years of HARD searching) ! | ||
The Adventurer |
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Elite Veteran,, James Passed away March 2021, He will be Missed Posts: 1028 Location: Melbourne, Australia | Sorry Firesweeps don't count lol ! | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | If you have a quarter million dollars: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/desoto/firedome/1693041.... | ||
firedome |
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Expert Posts: 3153 Location: NY & VT | I thought that green one sold at auction not long ago, iirc it was for much less than a quarter Mil. | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7205 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | I talked to a fellow WPC member today who actually owned this car back in the early 90s. He used it as a parts car!! He told me that the lower body and frame on this car were rusted out. He sold it and then -the frame was replaced with one from a New Yorker, and the lower body was patched. He confirmed the floors and trunk have had extensive patching, with plain sheet metal. 2 other parts cars were also used to build this one! | ||
christine-lover |
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Expert Posts: 2996 Location: Sept. 1958 | firedome - 2015-03-29 1:37 PM I thought that green one sold at auction not long ago, iirc it was for much less than a quarter Mil. It was, and sold for around $200k all in, new buyer is apparently this guy selling it now. | ||
firedome |
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Expert Posts: 3153 Location: NY & VT | Even $200k for that green vert is insane! | ||
sidesho_bob1961 |
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Expert Posts: 1728 Location: Fleetwood, Pa | The world is full of dreamers...... Edited by sidesho_bob1961 2015-03-30 10:18 AM | ||
BSoto |
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Veteran Posts: 118 Location: Nawth Kerolinuh | The green car sold last August - hammer price was $170k with bidder fees on top of that. So it was a notch less than $200k. Nice car though, I crawled around it and took a lot of pics last June when we were side by side at the AACA Grand National. Then a few months later, boom, it sold at Auburn. Hope it keeps going up! | ||
BSoto |
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Veteran Posts: 118 Location: Nawth Kerolinuh | And by the way, if you want the green 58 Firedome vert, it's up for sale again. Auction in PA in a few weeks. Any bets on what it goes for this time? http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/desoto/firedome/1... | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | BSoto - 2015-07-07 12:12 PM Any bets on what it goes for this time? My guess: top bid $130,000 - reserve not met. Keep us posted! I kind of hope it goes up too, but my instinct says they already paid the top price. It reminds me of the $240,000 Coronet Super D-500 convertible - nowhere to go but down. | ||
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