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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-05-16 6:03 PM (#478495)
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-05-16 6:23 PM (#478497 - in reply to #478495)
Subject: RE: 58 Dodge


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Nicely optioned Regal! Copper and white? Hard to read.

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Lancer Mike
Posted 2015-05-16 11:25 PM (#478528 - in reply to #478495)
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Very nice!

293 = Torqueflite three speed automatic transmission
312 = power brakes
362 = accessory group 2 - heater/defroster, back up lights, inside prismatic mirror, left outside mirror, radio
373 = accessory group 3 - variable speed wipers, Jiffy Jet, hand brake warning light, map light, glove box light, foam rear seat, trunk light, vanity mirror
417 = accessory group 7 - front bumper spuds, rear bumper guards, license plate insert
427 = acousti-foam headliner
487 = Solex glass
501 = undercoating
605 = delivery by truck

Schedule 0220 = built on or around February 20, 1958
BDY 362 = Dodge, Custom Royal, Lancer Coupe
PNT 5SXS = Regal two tone, Copper Roof, Eggshell Body, Copper Fins & Deck
TRM 277 = Regal Bronze and Black interior

There is a Regal thread in the members rides section, you should post a picture of yours here or there!






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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-05-17 12:18 AM (#478536 - in reply to #478528)
Subject: RE: 58 Dodge


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Interesting, Mike! I interpret body plate "427" as a 7 in a position that indicates the "ordering code" of 327 which factory decodes as a rear shelf speaker. Hey! If the car has a rear speaker we are both right!!

You did this on purpose, didn't you?!

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Lancer Mike
Posted 2015-05-17 4:07 PM (#478589 - in reply to #478536)
Subject: RE: 58 Dodge



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Hi, Greg:

I would defer to you. You have studied these things a lot longer than I have. I based that 427 on another car with a similar number in the data plate. That car had the acoustic-foam headliner, but I did not know if it had the rear shelf speaker. The acoustic-foam headliner was so unusual on that other car, I assumed it would be on the data plate, but perhaps not!

How does the 7 under the 42 translate to an order code 327?

thanks,
Mike (always lots to learn)

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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-05-17 5:16 PM (#478595 - in reply to #478495)
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what is weird is the sunvisors are near perfect. It did have the accoutic foam headliner though. its gone but couple of big material hanging down.



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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-05-17 8:32 PM (#478609 - in reply to #478595)
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Mike, I don't suppose there is any way to tell if the car had a rear defogger?

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d500neil
Posted 2015-05-18 3:27 AM (#478625 - in reply to #478609)
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The car is not coded for Accoustafoam headliner.

It does have a rear speaker.

It is not coded for having padded sun visors, either, which might (partially) explain why its current
visors are in such good condition(?)

Rear defogger is not individually option-listed on the P/T plate.








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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-05-18 7:40 AM (#478636 - in reply to #478609)
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LD3 Greg - 2015-05-17 8:32 PM

Mike, I don't suppose there is any way to tell if the car had a rear defogger?

Greg


Sorry, I meant to say rear speaker.

On the topic of rear defogger, it would be coded on the body plate as 434 and as 394 on the broadcast sheet.

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springsweptwing
Posted 2015-05-18 8:44 AM (#478640 - in reply to #478495)
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Similar optioned car to mine, and mine has rear speaker, this one later built than mine,



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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-05-18 9:38 AM (#478647 - in reply to #478495)
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Those visors looked original... Aren't those only in Regal lancers? I can't say if it had the headliner or not but there was a big piece of padding behind the sun visors.

You can see the big piece of solid "cardboard" hanging down.





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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-05-18 5:54 PM (#478693 - in reply to #478647)
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Padded visors were standard on a Regal and optional on other models. I think what would make yours unique to a Regal is the copper vinyl. Any others I have seen had the same Mylar strips but were white/off-white vinyl.

Want to sell them?

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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-05-19 12:35 PM (#478805 - in reply to #478495)
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I will get a thread of the leftovers eventually that are usable... I am swamped right now with life... but you can have first dibs on them if I do sell them.
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d500neil
Posted 2015-05-19 6:45 PM (#478843 - in reply to #478805)
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Greg, if you are saying that the 15th spot is for padded visors, or for the padded dash, my 1958 records/files
indicate that there are at least two different options that do apply to that spot, and that they are considerably
different from designating a 'dashboard' option.

For the rear defogger, I have no records that indicate that it is included on the P/T plate.

Individually-available options, but they're not shown or included on the P/T plate.



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LD3 Greg
Posted 2015-05-19 11:10 PM (#478871 - in reply to #478843)
Subject: Re: 58 Dodge


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Whoa----- Neil, I didn't say anything about coded padded visors!! at any space on the plate!

In this case, it is a Regal plate and since both padded visors and foam headliner are standard equipment, neither would be specifically coded on the plate.

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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-05-24 8:37 AM (#479240 - in reply to #478495)
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I didn't see anything about the rear defroster, whole interior is gutted though, not sure if I could tell if it had.

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