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macedon
Posted 2015-06-23 6:50 PM (#482534)
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I'll start posting my pictures to as I dig into thecar



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miquelonbrad
Posted 2015-06-23 9:09 PM (#482562 - in reply to #482534)
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Hmmm...new frost plugs. Has the engine been gone through?
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macedon
Posted 2015-06-23 10:03 PM (#482572 - in reply to #482562)
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According to the receipts the engine was rebuilt in 1997. It appears to have less than 100 miles on it since then.
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Posted 2015-06-24 2:44 AM (#482592 - in reply to #482534)
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Great looking car, Dave. Congrats!
It's strange how you keep starting with a hardtop and but then end up with a sedan.
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macedon
Posted 2015-06-24 12:49 PM (#482634 - in reply to #482592)
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Thanks. I actually do like the look of the aluminum door frame sedans. LOTS of glass.
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macedon
Posted 2015-08-01 6:58 PM (#485855 - in reply to #482634)
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Got all the way down to the power seat troughs. Whew. I'm feeling really, really fortunate about the condition of the floors. Once I have the floors cleaned up I'll be installing the new carpet. No luck posting pictures. I'll try again later.

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d500neil
Posted 2015-08-01 8:12 PM (#485856 - in reply to #485855)
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Nice 'going' Dave!

I like the More-Door models, mucho!

They are a sort of Devil-may-care car, nowadays!

How does your car's power seat operate?

Thanks to the recent generosity of website member Gregcon, I've acquired and/or have rebuilt a power seat, and would like to
Pay-it-Forward, to a worthy person, in Re; those spare parts' availability to a needy restorer.



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Posted 2015-08-01 10:43 PM (#485860 - in reply to #482534)
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Dave. Make sure the cam is broken in properly. I am tearing apart a 273 V8 out of a 66 cuda because the previous owner said that it was drive home after the rebuild then parked. Well. .the cam was never broke in to the lifters and it ate the cam with less than 100 miles 'since the rebuild'.
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macedon
Posted 2015-08-02 1:27 AM (#485865 - in reply to #485856)
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Power seat is kinda jumpy. Might just be the switch. Not sure yet. I've got the entire assembly on my bench for cleaning, lube and test. Hopefully all goes well.

OK, pics are uploading now.

As you can see there is no rust in the power seat troughs. I'm very lucky. So far the only real rust I've found is on the passenger side. Leaky water valve caused some problems. I'll cut out about a 1 inch by 2 inch area near the forward frame bolt. Other than that I'm going with Por-15 and then Herculiner.

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macedon
Posted 2015-08-16 4:30 PM (#487303 - in reply to #482534)
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Did a little refresh work on the headlight doors.



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d500neil
Posted 2015-08-18 11:13 PM (#487491 - in reply to #482534)
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I'm curious about which style of power seat control switches your car has in it (you gotta check the switch,
internally).

The switch will need a cleaning and lub'ing, if it is untouched, original, anyway.


One , later, style is more mechanically advanced, internally ...looks the same, externally, as the earlier version.




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Posted 2015-08-19 2:44 AM (#487499 - in reply to #482534)
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What a nice car with lot of potential Dave - the engine does not have any leaks as it seems and the floorboards are another nice surprise
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macedon
Posted 2015-08-19 7:41 PM (#487563 - in reply to #487491)
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Doesn't look half bad actually. I'll clean up the contacts and lube the rocker switches. Yet another reason I love old cars... electrical components that I can actually work on.



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Posted 2015-08-20 3:07 AM (#487594 - in reply to #487563)
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Not too bad, there!

Here's some pics of the First Generation (like your car) and the improved-design Second Generation of the power seat
control.

You need, carefully, to rub-off the electrical contact-corrosion inside the switch, to improve its operation.

Looks like its contact points are in GOOD condition (as opposed to my examples.





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Posted 2015-08-21 7:35 AM (#487678 - in reply to #487563)
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macedon - 2015-08-19 7:41 PM

Doesn't look half bad actually. I'll clean up the contacts and lube the rocker switches. Yet another reason I love old cars... electrical components that I can actually work on.


I am hearing you on the electrics! (I am a fitter and Turner). The power switch back panel pics are cool, never seen a circuit board like that. Flattened copper wire, unreal
Your car looks to be in very similar condition as my Imperial was when I got it in 2010.
Looks like you are doing a great job, keep the pics coming, it's a buzz watching the progress of these cars as they come back to life. And it's a 57 Desoto!

When will you drive it ?

Steve.


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macedon
Posted 2015-08-21 2:27 PM (#487704 - in reply to #487678)
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Thanks. I drove it three times in July. Then I pulled the seats and carpet out. I'm almost done with the floors. There wasn't much to do. Couple of small rust issues from a leaky water valve.
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macedon
Posted 2015-08-23 2:13 PM (#487803 - in reply to #487704)
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Power seat switch serviced and reassembled. Bench tested the power seat mechanism and it worked like a champion. I have a question though... the switch was not installed on the seat when I got the car. So does anyone know... the switch toggle has ridges on one side only. Do they face up or down?



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1957sotos
Posted 2015-08-23 9:04 PM (#487821 - in reply to #482534)
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Hi Dave, I have a similar car and my switch has the ridges facing up.
Mine also operates jumpy. Also, the red power feed under the carpet
gets chafed easily because of the routing. I noticed that your center
plastic hood medallion looks new. Is it original? I have a Fireflite sedan
and a Firedome 4dr hdtp and both are cracked and separating. Looks like
a fine original car you have there.

Perry of Pa.
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macedon
Posted 2015-08-23 10:32 PM (#487824 - in reply to #487821)
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Hey Perry,
Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. The hood emblem is new. I got it from a guy named George Laurie who lives in Australia. Not sure if he still makes them.

Post pictures of your cars when you get a chance.
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Posted 2015-08-24 6:29 AM (#487838 - in reply to #482534)
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Hi, Perry. Always wanted to meet you, but never seem to be in your part of the state when there's a show. Yes, George Laurie and Emblemagic are the 2 sources for the hood emblem. I have contact information for each if you need it. Your cars look nice (I have several pictures in my collection from various shows you've attended). Maybe see you next year at the NDC show near Baltimore.
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Posted 2015-08-24 10:28 PM (#487904 - in reply to #482534)
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Dave,
Sorry, but haven't figured out pictures yet.
I am curious where you ordered your carpet from. Most suppliers only carry carpet for 2 doors. I did manage to find mine
at Newark Supply.


Ed,
I thought I would see you at Carlisle this year. I've had the only 57 Desoto there the last 5 years.


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macedon
Posted 2015-08-25 10:36 AM (#487931 - in reply to #487904)
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Got the carpet from Factory OEM Parts. Very happy with it. Heel pad is not exactly like original but close.
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macedon
Posted 2015-11-28 6:52 PM (#496393 - in reply to #487931)
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Checking how things fit and look. Not all together yet. Seat was recovered some time before I got it. Not horrible... it will do until I get the original materials.



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macedon
Posted 2017-04-07 3:19 PM (#537565 - in reply to #482534)
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Plunking away... making some progress. And a couple of before pictures.

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bbrasse1
Posted 2017-04-07 6:16 PM (#537575 - in reply to #482534)
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Wow! Great job! Your steering wheel is in amazingly good condition. Who did your dash?
Keep sending the pictures. You have quite a car.
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macedon
Posted 2017-04-08 8:31 PM (#537649 - in reply to #482534)
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Rear view mirror back in today




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macedon
Posted 2017-07-19 5:45 PM (#544428 - in reply to #482534)
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Finally! I got the dash back together. Took much longer than I had hoped. Partly because I'm picky. But now I have a fresh wiring harness and all the lights, gauges, switches, radio, clock, etc have been gone through. Everything works. Absolutely everything. Even the stupid lighters that will never get used.



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Posted 2017-07-20 6:26 AM (#544453 - in reply to #482534)
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Very nice! I don't think I've ever seen a pushbutton surround like that on the glovebox door. Was that an accessory of some sort?
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macedon
Posted 2017-07-20 8:12 AM (#544455 - in reply to #482534)
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While I do have a great bit of paperwork on this car there is no mention of this. It is actually pretty slick and functional. You just hook the side of your index finger under the bottom lip and push the button with your thumb. Gives you total control of the door, both pulling and pushing. You can control the pressure just right as you close the door to get the latch to catch nicely. Neat little add. It must have been fairly specific to this application. You can see in the pictures that it uses the original mounting holes. You just have to drill them out through the face of the door to mount.



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Posted 2017-07-20 8:50 AM (#544456 - in reply to #482534)
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That glovebox lock assembly is used on 59 Dodge. Not sure about 57-8 Dodge.

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macedon
Posted 2017-07-20 9:38 AM (#544460 - in reply to #482534)
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Works like a champ on '57 DeSoto's too
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Posted 2017-07-21 10:52 AM (#544530 - in reply to #544460)
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Many of my DeSotos have had that little hook thing
on the knob. My current car has one. Opening the GB
door is a PITA without one if there is any resistance in
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billy
Posted 2017-08-18 2:18 PM (#546482 - in reply to #482534)
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Dave,
I have a couple questions....nice pics of the car by the way....The power seat switch....mine came all apart like that also...I think i'm missing a piece inside that keeps it all snug in the switch...do you have a diagram or pictures of the mechanism? Is there a spacer piece that keeps the black plastic box, the circuit board all snug inside the casting???
Also where did you get you carpet from? I need 1 for my 57 New Yorker....
Thanks,
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