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OzFury
Posted 2015-10-29 10:09 PM (#493597)
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Hi Guy's,

You asked for pic's these are all I really have that are worth while looking at.



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OzFury
Posted 2015-10-29 10:14 PM (#493598 - in reply to #493597)
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You'll have to forgive me I'm still learning how this forum works here's another



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Posted 2015-10-30 6:24 AM (#493618 - in reply to #493597)
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Wow! She looks great, Graham! That interior looks spotless!

I like the exterior color combo as well; the '61 Dodge wheelcovers with spinners look cool.

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OzFury
Posted 2015-10-30 4:40 PM (#493661 - in reply to #493597)
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Thanks Pete it is code# PL3 which is Platinum & Plum Red roof & front guard same colour.

Didn't know they were 61 wheel covers thanks. The guy I got it from had the seats all redone the door trims are original.

Cheers Graham
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Posted 2015-10-30 9:53 PM (#493686 - in reply to #493661)
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My very 1st FL car was a 1 owner '60 Savoy 4dr sedan HL rings look good along with the rest of the car. Nothing beats the fins of a '60 Plymouth.
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OzFury
Posted 2015-11-10 3:57 PM (#494819 - in reply to #493597)
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Well it has been a bit of a wait but the Fury is finally home now to start work getting her back on the road.

First off is to get the trans working & sort out the noisy starter.

Here's a few photo's of yesterdays arrival. The Plymouth girls finally meet



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Posted 2015-11-10 4:25 PM (#494824 - in reply to #493597)
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How nervous were you while they forked it off the truck

Good luck with it

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Posted 2015-11-10 7:24 PM (#494840 - in reply to #493597)
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Not as nervous as the forklift driver.

You'll be seeing regular updates & questions
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Posted 2015-11-10 8:21 PM (#494848 - in reply to #493597)
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Look forward to watching the progress

The car is so weird compared to the Aussie stuff, it will get you scratching your head, thats why I had to do the dodge to work out how it all worked

I have to say though, that before I got mine, all of my resto work had been on holden and fords, mopar was just valiants that I fixed as customer cars over time, so I didnt talk fluent mopar

Here, you have a head start on me

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Posted 2015-11-10 10:20 PM (#494859 - in reply to #493597)
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How did he get the fork lift off. Way cool car !!!
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Posted 2015-11-10 10:45 PM (#494861 - in reply to #494848)
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ttotired - 2015-11-10 8:21 PM

Look forward to watching the progress

The car is so weird compared to the Aussie stuff, it will get you scratching your head, thats why I had to do the dodge to work out how it all worked

I have to say though, that before I got mine, all of my resto work had been on holden and fords, mopar was just valiants that I fixed as customer cars over time, so I didnt talk fluent mopar

Here, you have a head start on me



It will all start soon I just want to get it drivable then I'll get into the paint work found some very small blisters I think body work will be minimal.

Yeah I been playing with the Aussie Vals for awhile now (almost 30 years I've also had a 39 Dodge & a 51 Dodge.

I'm still waiting for the paperwork & keys to the boot to get here via post.
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Posted 2015-11-10 10:48 PM (#494862 - in reply to #494859)
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60crossram - 2015-11-10 10:20 PM

Thanks been wanting a 60 model for awhile now & I've got 1 now.

How did he get the fork lift off. Way cool car !!!


Which 1 ? the 1 he is using or the 1 on the trailer ?

The 1 he used was not on the truck it was the depots...the 1 on the truck was delivered somewhere else so not sure how they got it off.
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Posted 2015-11-10 11:22 PM (#494863 - in reply to #493597)
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OzFury
Posted 2015-11-13 2:36 PM (#495076 - in reply to #493597)
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Well had a spare hour yesterday so connected the battery & turned the key the starter let out a big scream & it didn't crank.
I turn the motor a bit with the fan & hit the starter again she cranked for about 20 seconds & fired into life.

The load starter noise I was told about when cranking I think is not a issue as when it cranked it sounded normal to me only when the starter & ring gear didn't engage
did it make a loud noise. So I am on the lookout for another ring gear.

Second thing I did was try to select a gear so I pushed the D button nothing happen....I have found a workshop not to far from home that deals with these
old transmissions all the time so I will get them to check it out.

What auto paint was being used in the US in the 80's enamel, acrylic, 2 pack ? I'm about to start stripping it back & just a bit curious.

Graham
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Posted 2015-11-13 4:18 PM (#495081 - in reply to #493597)
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Thats not original paint on that car Graham, I suspect its acrylic (mostly because of the clear)

If you use enamel it will go over acrylic ok, just not the other way unless you use an isolation coat (special primer)

Next time it doesnt start, leave it where it is and take the starter off and look at the ring gear

Curious about the starter and pinion as well

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Posted 2015-11-13 4:48 PM (#495086 - in reply to #493597)
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Yeah it was repainted in the 80's....I have seen 2 pack clear do the same thing either way there's a lot of sanding ahead.

Will do I'll get some pic's of it as well
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Posted 2015-11-13 4:53 PM (#495088 - in reply to #493597)
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I dont envy you getting it off

are you going to do the lot or just the top/flakey bits?

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Posted 2015-11-13 6:03 PM (#495090 - in reply to #493597)
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The lot as I don't think we could get a good match as the paint is 30 odd years old

sanding sanding sanding it'll start in a few weeks once the trans & ring gear are sorted
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Posted 2015-11-14 4:58 AM (#495122 - in reply to #493597)
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1960's to 1980's Chrysler Corp. used acrylic enamel, but in the 1980's started using color/clear coat. Lots of problems with the stuff they used in the 1980's for the colour / clear coat - the clear coat would peal or fog up. On my 1983 Imperial the all the paint layers, primer to clear coat, start lifting off in pieces on the roof when the car turned 20. My 1988 Plymouth Caravelle Salon has the clear coat fogging and both the clear coat and the colour layers have actually worn off in some spots. Now have surface rust in those areas.

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OzFury
Posted 2015-11-14 1:40 PM (#495155 - in reply to #493597)
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Hi Bill,

Where the paint shops using the same colour clear coat system ?

I thought all metallic were colour clear coat.

Cheers Graham
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OzFury
Posted 2015-11-16 11:13 PM (#495404 - in reply to #493597)
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Well the keys arrived today & I opened the treasure trunk.



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Posted 2015-12-17 1:49 AM (#498224 - in reply to #493597)
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Well finally home after working away for a few weeks. Started the Fury it seemed to not want to idle so I replaced the old carb with a 600 Holley I had in the shed idles sweet now also changed the points.

Time is running out to get to the transmission shop before Christmas so I booked in for next year.

I will be starting on sanding the paint back ready for painting.

I will update with pic's as work progresses.

Cheers Gra
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Posted 2015-12-18 2:05 AM (#498336 - in reply to #493597)
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COOL CAR!! CONGRATS!!
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Posted 2015-12-31 2:32 PM (#499589 - in reply to #493597)
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Well been removing all the bright work to get ready to sand not nasty surprises hidden only door handles & side mirror to go.



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Posted 2015-12-31 6:28 PM (#499604 - in reply to #493597)
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NICE!

I like your dog too!

Great car you have there.





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Posted 2015-12-31 11:27 PM (#499621 - in reply to #499604)
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FIN ME - 2016-01-01 10:28 AM





NICE!

I like your dog too!

Great car you have there.





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Thanks only rust found was at in the lower right rear 1/4 at the bottom of the inner none around the screens I'm couldn't be happier with the condition of the body. It's going to be the original Platinum but with a candy red roof & front section.

As for the dog that's Miss T our female English Staffordshire she isn't much help maybe her partner in crime will be in a up coming photo if he gets in the way.

I think the left rear 1/4 has been changed at some stage as I found this tag after I removed the boot trim to unbolt the tail lights.

Cheers Graham




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OzFury
Posted 2016-02-07 7:40 PM (#503531 - in reply to #493597)
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Well finally got the Fury back from the transmission shop after 3 weeks. All I can say is won't be going back there again.

Ok so the only thing they did was check the oil pressure in the trans which we already knew was there was no fluid being pumped.

I am about to pull the motor & trans out while I keep doing the body & paint the trans can be sorted I now have a guy who knows

what he is doing he rebuild the trans for Dodge known as Atomic. If I need to source parts for the trans were is the best place to look ?

Cheers Gra



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Posted 2016-02-12 11:42 PM (#503999 - in reply to #493597)
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Looks like that Fury came from my state of Utah. I don't recall ever seeing it. What is the story on it ? I don't recall the story on it or I missed it. I sure like the 60 Fury's. Ever since my 60 Johan wagon model that I built when I was a young whipper snapper. Which I still have of course. Plymouth lives !!!
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Posted 2016-02-15 5:29 PM (#504224 - in reply to #495155)
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OzFury - 2015-11-14 1:40 PM

Hi Bill,

Where the paint shops using the same colour clear coat system ?

I thought all metallic were colour clear coat.

Cheers Graham


Acrylic urethane and colour/clear coats appeared in the 1980's. The products have improved over the years and the paint jobs were much more stable and durable by the 1990's than they were in the 1980's.

Prior to clear coat, cars were done either in lacquer or enamel. And that includes metallics. Metallics first appeared around 1932, enamel paints on cars in 1934, and lacquer paints in 1924. Prior to that colour was done using colour varnishes (usually three coats), which back in those pre-varathane days took about a week to dry, per coat. Which is why Henry Ford adopted Japan black enamel - it could be heat dried in about an hour.

Acrylic lacquer paint appeared around 1959 and acrylic enamel around 1965.


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ttotired
Posted 2016-02-15 6:20 PM (#504228 - in reply to #493597)
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I bought my trans gasket kits from fatsco

http://www.fatsco.net/?gclid=CObz34Xz-soCFYSjvQodqcwE5A

All you need for the internals (seals and clutches), I got bands done in Australia, but they were supplied by a company here in Perth, so I dont know exactly who did them

I dont know who you can get that drive sleeve that I think is broken from, I havnt ran across any in all the parts I have here

Need to move quickly now Graham, start to get cold again in a month or 2

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OzFury
Posted 2016-02-17 1:58 PM (#504425 - in reply to #503999)
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60crossram - 2016-02-13 3:42 PM

Looks like that Fury came from my state of Utah. I don't recall ever seeing it. What is the story on it ? I don't recall the story on it or I missed it. I sure like the 60 Fury's. Ever since my 60 Johan wagon model that I built when I was a young whipper snapper. Which I still have of course. Plymouth lives !!!



Sorry for the slow reply we have had internet issues.

Yes it was a Utah car the guy I brought if from here brought it in 2007.

the story goes something like this.

the son of the original owner had the Fury restored in the early to mid 80's he did about 500 miles in it. I was told he was a mercenary & he had to go off to fight & never returned home. His wife kept the Fury in the shed then in 2007 she went on a holiday & the 2 sons moved it into the yard so they could put there cars in the shed. A guy quickly snapped it up seeing it sitting there & within a week had it on Ebay were they guy I brought from got it. It was shipped to west Australia until I brought it last year it now resides on the other side of the island.

Cheers Graham
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Posted 2016-02-17 2:00 PM (#504426 - in reply to #504224)
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Chrycoman - 2016-02-16 9:29 AM

OzFury - 2015-11-14 1:40 PM

Hi Bill,

Where the paint shops using the same colour clear coat system ?

I thought all metallic were colour clear coat.

Cheers Graham


Acrylic urethane and colour/clear coats appeared in the 1980's. The products have improved over the years and the paint jobs were much more stable and durable by the 1990's than they were in the 1980's.

Prior to clear coat, cars were done either in lacquer or enamel. And that includes metallics. Metallics first appeared around 1932, enamel paints on cars in 1934, and lacquer paints in 1924. Prior to that colour was done using colour varnishes (usually three coats), which back in those pre-varathane days took about a week to dry, per coat. Which is why Henry Ford adopted Japan black enamel - it could be heat dried in about an hour.

Acrylic lacquer paint appeared around 1959 and acrylic enamel around 1965.


Hi Bill,

Thanks for the info.

Cheers Graham
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Posted 2016-02-17 2:11 PM (#504428 - in reply to #504228)
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ttotired - 2016-02-16 10:20 AM

I bought my trans gasket kits from fatsco

http://www.fatsco.net/?gclid=CObz34Xz-soCFYSjvQodqcwE5A

All you need for the internals (seals and clutches), I got bands done in Australia, but they were supplied by a company here in Perth, so I dont know exactly who did them

I dont know who you can get that drive sleeve that I think is broken from, I havnt ran across any in all the parts I have here

Need to move quickly now Graham, start to get cold again in a month or 2



Hi Mick,

Back on line just had the nbn hooked up only took them 2 weeks to workout the problems.

After talking with Tom the transmission guy I am more at ease he knows these transmissions & has the contacts for parts if needed. I have also found out that 1960 Chrysler Royal's have the same transmission so got everybody keeping an eye out for 1 for spare parts.

Your right time is passing by quickly & I need to get a move on before winter gets here. I do have a plan B as I have access to a paint shop if needed.

Cheers Graham

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Posted 2016-04-02 6:46 AM (#508570 - in reply to #493597)
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Hi Guy's,

Well here's a few update to the progress of the 60. Been busy sanding got the bonnet (hood), rear 1/4's, roof & boot (trunk) sanded & primed not much to see but grey primer didn't find any nasty surprises so far.



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Posted 2016-04-02 6:49 AM (#508571 - in reply to #493597)
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Also pulled the motor & trans today finally get to have a look & see why the trans isn't working. If you look close you can see the box wasn't bolted up all the bolts were loose as you can see. Forgot to mention it was suppose to have been rebuilt 500 miles ago look at all the crud on it I don't think so.


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Posted 2016-04-02 6:52 AM (#508572 - in reply to #493597)
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And finally last thing today was split the motor & box to find this...No wonder it didn't drive



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Posted 2016-04-02 8:56 PM (#508622 - in reply to #493597)
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Been a little while now since I did all this to my dodge, but I am not seeing your problem, the tags are still on the pump drive and the splines look all right

All the trans bolts being loose as they were would be more likely the problem, as in, the tags most likely would not have been engaged inside the torque converter, so no fluid pressure from the front pump

I think its funny that it all looks like it does, you told me when you bought it that the guys son spent a day or so under it trying to get it driving, bloke must have spent a day or so sleeping under it not to see that

I cant even see witness marks on the bolts from sockets ect to say it was undone and just sat back in

Didnt you have starter pinion problems as well? This explains that as well

I would be tempted to just wash the whole lot, tighten it all up and put it back in and see if it works

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Posted 2016-04-02 10:43 PM (#508630 - in reply to #493597)
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Hi Mick,

the first pic of the sleeve show were it was when the trans was removed it wasn't engauged in the pump but was in the converter so it has been turning with the motor hence
the wear on the splines on the shaft. I pushed it into the pump & the pump spun freely by hand. There was a lot of metallic in the bottom of my tray I
m sure the front bearing is toast.

Anyway it's getting a freshen up a new sleeve before it goes back in.

I do believe I might have been told a few untruths as while I have it running playing with the trans coolant was flowing out of the heater box down the fire wall
the previous owner said he had it running a few times for 20mins or more while he was playing with it if that was the case he'd of run out of coolant.

I'm going to remove the heater & install a vintage air set up as we plan to cruise the wheels off this thing.

As for the starter once I got the car here I don't think it had much of an issue I think he was just not use to old cars.
Yes there are a few worn teeth that need to be looked at but it's only played up on me twice I just move the engine by hand a inch or so & it fire right up.
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Posted 2016-10-17 7:25 PM (#523688 - in reply to #493597)
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Well I finally have a few days off work has been so busy haven't had a chance to do anything to the Fury.

I had my first weekend off in months last weekend went to Sydney for the All Chrysler Day here's a few pic's of the Forward look cars there

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Posted 2016-10-17 7:26 PM (#523689 - in reply to #493597)
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Bugger forgot how this site works try this





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Posted 2016-11-11 4:18 PM (#525889 - in reply to #493597)
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I'm an idiot. I forgot all about it!

Was there many other FL cars?




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Posted 2016-11-12 3:42 PM (#526047 - in reply to #525889)
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matte - 2016-11-12 8:18 AM

I'm an idiot. I forgot all about it!

Was there many other FL cars?




There were also a few 58-59 Chrysler Royals 1 being an Ambo & a few R & S series Valiant's.
It was a great new venue 240 MoPar's.



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OzFury
Posted 2018-03-29 11:58 PM (#560714 - in reply to #493597)
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OK I know I slack with updates but here is were I'm up to now. Body is painted just assembling it I have today mated the motor & trans together I will fit it tomorrow
I have to say I have never had a project with such a good body I have not had to cut out any rust only clean up some surface rust & some very small dings even
around the screens is perfect.

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matte
Posted 2018-03-30 6:12 PM (#560785 - in reply to #493597)
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Mate that is coming along really nicely. Keep them coming.

Love the sign above the driveway.



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OzFury
Posted 2018-05-10 1:21 AM (#563063 - in reply to #493597)
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Ok been a few weeks here's an up date...Front doors now painted & back motor & trans sitting in place & started installing front panels



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60 Imp
Posted 2018-05-10 6:49 AM (#563074 - in reply to #493597)
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You do good work Mister! That car is coming along nicely. I dig seeing Blokes doing their own backyard (or front, or shed) work.

How did you go with the trans? Keen to hear what was needed in the end,

Also keen to see progress as you get it road ready
Steve.

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Powerflite
Posted 2018-05-10 2:35 PM (#563107 - in reply to #493597)
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Great looking paint on there. Good job!
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OzFury
Posted 2018-05-10 5:08 PM (#563111 - in reply to #493597)
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Thanks guy's we try to do as much as we can at home for me that's were the fun is. The only things we get done are interior trim & transmission work & some engine machining.
I was hoping that this 1 would have been finished by now but time & weather have hindered my progress but I can now see the day for cruising is getting close.

I was told restoring a Forward Look car would be an education & it has had a few surprises mostly finding parts but with some help & guidance from forum members we have been managing
the biggest job was the trans we had to replace the front pump rotor & pump drive sleeve also the front hub & stator support had the bands redone at a place in Sydney. Motor was stripped down
cleaned new bearings rings heads done with hardened seats & valves I assembled it. Still not 100% sure about the mating of the motor & trans as the late model block & early bellhousing don't have locating dowels fingers crossed it's ok otherwise I'll be on the lookout for a early block.

More updates soon

Cheers Gra
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