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stinky
Posted 2016-04-23 6:57 PM (#510084)
Subject: 59 Dodge Custom Royal on FB


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Does anyone based in NSW know this car, the owner has posted on Facebook with queries of interest to sell. Looks like a reasonable looking car.





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stinky
Posted 2016-04-23 8:14 PM (#510086 - in reply to #510084)
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Got a message back from the owner, he is asking 40k but open to offers, just out of my budget unfortunately.
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heldam
Posted 2016-04-24 11:00 PM (#510135 - in reply to #510084)
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I find it amusing that there will be nothing road ready of the CKD RHD cars for sale for ages, even years - then bang - out they pop. 59 Desoto in Melbourne, blue 58 Custom Royal and now this one to top it of. The timing is never right for me. I get sick of waiting and buy or start something else. If someone in Western Australia wants to come and buy my LHD 59 Imperial 4DR HT ( almost ready for rego ) make me an offer and I will go after this Dodge.

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stinky
Posted 2016-06-13 1:57 AM (#513983 - in reply to #510084)
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Now apparently the motor in this is a 383 with a 904 behind it, would anyone know if thats correct? I thought that the big blocks had a 727 behind them, and these Aussie built 59's all had 361's in them.
Can someone enlighten me please?
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lozrox58
Posted 2016-06-13 4:46 AM (#513993 - in reply to #510084)
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All Aussie Dodges had the 361 cu in B block motor with the old cast iron A727_488 gearbox. The 904 is generally a light duty gearbox used behind the 6 cylinders and the small V8s, and they are very difficult to fit behind a big block. I've seen a few 59's with the 383 swapped into them.
A friend of mine saw the car at a show in Tamworth (I think) and his opinion is the car is a very good buy. Very straight with good chrome and stainless.
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lozrox58
Posted 2016-06-13 4:51 AM (#513994 - in reply to #510135)
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heldam - 2016-04-25 1:00 PM

I find it amusing that there will be nothing road ready of the CKD RHD cars for sale for ages, even years - then bang - out they pop. 59 Desoto in Melbourne, blue 58 Custom Royal and now this one to top it of. The timing is never right for me. I get sick of waiting and buy or start something else. If someone in Western Australia wants to come and buy my LHD 59 Imperial 4DR HT ( almost ready for rego ) make me an offer and I will go after this Dodge.


I searched for two years for a Chrysler Royal or other forward look car and couldn't find anything registered or not. I grabbed the first one that eventually came up and luckily it was a 59 Dodge(my second choice). And since then I have had to pass up a few good cars because of lack of room.
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stinky
Posted 2016-06-13 6:54 AM (#513999 - in reply to #513993)
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lozrox58 - 2016-06-12 7:46 PM

All Aussie Dodges had the 361 cu in B block motor with the old cast iron A727_488 gearbox. The 904 is generally a light duty gearbox used behind the 6 cylinders and the small V8s, and they are very difficult to fit behind a big block. I've seen a few 59's with the 383 swapped into them.
A friend of mine saw the car at a show in Tamworth (I think) and his opinion is the car is a very good buy. Very straight with good chrome and stainless.


Thanks lozrox, I am keen to actually have a look at this car but things are not adding up as the owner is adamant that it is a factory 383, 904 car. He has only owned the car a year as well, not long to have a car before selling.
My car will need a full repaint which I am guessing could be a 25k job for such a big car, this one is probably a better option for someone with not allot of cash flow at the moment.
It started off at 40k and is down to 32k negotiable, I'm only good for 30k as it will cost another 2k to fly up and if I bought it drive back down to Tassie and put on the boat.
It's a hard decision to make, will wait till I get more info's and pics.
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VAN HELSING
Posted 2016-06-13 9:34 AM (#514006 - in reply to #510084)
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If the car is in or around Tamworth I only live a bit over an hour from there, let me know if you want me to look at it for you.


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stinky
Posted 2016-06-13 5:48 PM (#514030 - in reply to #510084)
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Hey Terry, the car is in Parkes mate. I'm not sure how far away it is from you mate?
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matte
Posted 2016-06-13 8:27 PM (#514046 - in reply to #514030)
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It's about 4-5 hours inland from both Terry and me mate.

I think you'd be best keeping yours.. Even though this one looks very nice, if you saw it in real life would it be a 25k paint job or just a nice looking spray job.. I used to spray racing yachts and when my car come into the country, I was really unhappy with the paint work but yet other people would say how beautiful the paint was.

If you got it, there could be other little issues that you will need to spend money on.. Do you know if it's a complete restoration chassis and all? I'd have to go back and have a look at your silver one but what I mean is for the same money your silver one could turn out better and you know what's been done.. As I said, I don't know the full condition of yours so I'm just throwing it out there..

The black and white combo throw me. When I first looked at it, it really grabbed me but then after a while looking at it..... My taste would be the colour combo the other way(White roof and fins on a black body) usually black fins and roof are with colours.. There are some nice Dodge colours..HeHe but that's my dribbling opinion..

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=59+dodge&client=safari&rls=en...

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matte
Posted 2016-06-13 9:07 PM (#514052 - in reply to #510084)
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I have absolutely adored this 59 for a while. Everything is done just so right.

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stinky
Posted 2016-06-14 2:03 AM (#514080 - in reply to #510084)
Subject: Re: 59 Dodge Custom Royal on FB


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Thanks Matt, some good advice there. Have received some more photo's but only of the interior and the only rust spot that is seen. The interior looks pretty good, allot better shape than mine. I think there is always going to be issues with cars no matter what you buy, have asked for some pics and will go from there. Cheers buddy.
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VAN HELSING
Posted 2016-06-14 12:05 PM (#514107 - in reply to #514030)
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stinky - 2016-06-14 9:48 AM

Hey Terry, the car is in Parkes mate. I'm not sure how far away it is from you mate?



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Unfortunately Parkes is at least 5 hours from me, maybe a bit more ?


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TerryM
Posted 2016-06-16 6:14 AM (#514283 - in reply to #510084)
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This car has been around. It was a Sydney car at one stage, then was in Perth, Cairns, Brisbane and now Parkes. It was in Albury for the Chryslers on the Murray this year. I have looked at it a bit over the years and deffinetly worth the money he is asking. Terry
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VAN HELSING
Posted 2016-06-16 9:27 AM (#514297 - in reply to #514283)
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TerryM - 2016-06-16 10:14 PM

This car has been around. It was a Sydney car at one stage, then was in Perth, Cairns, Brisbane and now Parkes. It was in Albury for the Chryslers on the Murray this year. I have looked at it a bit over the years and deffinetly worth the money he is asking. Terry


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Is that the same one over in Perth that was used as a wedding hire car ?

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TerryM
Posted 2016-06-18 4:53 AM (#514440 - in reply to #514297)
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no. Think the one in Perth for a wedding car is a coronet.
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lozrox58
Posted 2016-06-18 5:31 PM (#514465 - in reply to #510084)
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With opposite colour scheme.



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matte
Posted 2016-06-20 7:43 PM (#514598 - in reply to #510084)
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Any updates on your decision Pete?
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stinky
Posted 2016-06-21 6:01 AM (#514629 - in reply to #510084)
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Yes Matt, had a good think about it and gave it a miss. I can see exactly what needs to be done with mine and there are no surprises. There was some rust in the skuttle on this one which had me worried as It could have gone further than what it looked like in the pics, bit like an iceberg, you only see whats on the surface. The owner didn't send me the engine numbers and he kept saying the 383 was factory and couldnt be told it wasn't. Better off with the devil I know.
Not saying its a bad car but just not the one for me, for 30k I still think it's a good buy. I wasn't completely sold on the colour scheme either.
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matte
Posted 2016-06-21 6:30 PM (#514679 - in reply to #514629)
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Yeah mate like I said earlier, you've already got you're starting point (be nice to the old girl, after all she popped your cherry into the FL cars) Cars always look perfect in photos but......Also after reading it's an older restoration could mean and it needed a tidy up. Anyway you get to create what you want.



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VAN HELSING
Posted 2016-06-21 8:53 PM (#514691 - in reply to #510084)
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Pete,

You are at the point with your Dodge that I was with mine back in 2012, still love my Dodge now as much as back then, just a time and money thing for me at the moment as is probably with most others.

Don't think I've seen any pics of your Dodge?

Are there any on here at all ?..... I've been a few months away from the forum, still playing catch up.

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matte
Posted 2016-06-21 9:37 PM (#514699 - in reply to #510084)
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Hey Terry, Pete's car is on photobucket

http://s1044.photobucket.com/user/stinky225/media/IMG_0792_zpszxe2o...

It's on a thread called "My first FL car" on this section.
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stinky
Posted 2016-06-22 5:53 AM (#514719 - in reply to #510084)
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Yes I think its the right way to go in the end, I know what I have and its really not to bad. I will get it to a drivable and registered point and cruise it for a while, be nice to just drive a car that's not as neat as the Valiant, I fussed over that allot but this will be just get in and drive it which I will enjoy for a couple of years until I can afford to tear it down.
Looking forward to it lads.
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matte
Posted 2016-07-14 4:59 AM (#516642 - in reply to #510084)
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Done anything on the car Pete?

Got my car back and I'm considerably poorer by $6k and the car isn't that much better off after sending to the mechanics.. I do however have a nice piece of chipped paint about 2cm long now. I have photos of it the day before going to the mechanics and there is no chip. I can't see them going "Oh yeah it was us". It was picked up and dropped off to my place by a flatbed so they will probably try to blame him. Even though where it is chipped there is no way the tow truck driver could of done it.. Also grease marks in certain area of the interior and dirt on the white inlay drivers seat.. Connected my master cylinder without anything underneath so it was real wet all under there causing paint to blister up on the PS box and running along the cables.. Don't think they hooked up a tube on the nipples when bleeding because all the axles/leaf bolts are wet with brake fluid.. Well it better not be because they are leaking after the amount of hours they charged me for!!!
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stinky
Posted 2016-07-18 1:58 AM (#516956 - in reply to #510084)
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Oh jesus Matt, that's a shocker of a story mate. You take your pride and joy to someone trusting them that they will do the right thing by you and this happens. Man not much went right with that trip hey.
Hopefully everything turns out alright and you can get it sorted buddy.
Just been cleaning up the Dodge mate, waiting on some parts out of the US. I'm finding out very quickly that you have to be more patient with these cars, not like the Val where parts are always readily available.
Have the new shoes for it now, got some chrome steelies and wide whitewalls, will put some pics up on my other post mate.
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matte
Posted 2016-07-18 3:05 AM (#516959 - in reply to #510084)
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Yeah mate it really ate into my non existent budget!! Since then I found out there is a guy just around the corner from me that has nothing but good comments made about him .Pity the other lot robbed me blind.
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matte
Posted 2016-07-21 9:02 PM (#517286 - in reply to #510084)
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Well I just noticed that my brakes are leaking in numerous areas that work was done on.. So after being charged for 9+ hours to replace 6 slave cylinders, replace 2 rear brake lines, take off my New MC and dismantle it(For some reason) and fit new MC pushrod, it leaks. I emailed them but as I expected, they weren't to helpful(They got a little annoyed with me when I originally stated 9 hours for the brake work and 20+ hours to only have half of the suspension rubbers replace was over the top) so I wasn't expecting them to be helpful now.

Their response to the new rear brake lines leaking at the brake plate was to "tighten" them. Like I hadn't tried!!! The response to my new MC leaking from both ends is "tighten" the brake line which obviously I tried but they hadn't cleaned of my old teflon seal or used new so.... The response to now leaking from the rear is, "we didn't do anything to it except fit new pushrod". Except written on the invoice it clearing says, remove and dismantle MC. It didn't leak when I fitted it a month before. Also if it was already leaking from the piston bore wouldn't they have seen it when they removed it off the firewall and dismantled it!

Just annoys me that I paid over top dollar for shoddy workmanship and leaving my car interior with dirty marks all over it. The reason they pulled the MC off and made a new pushrod was because they couldn't get it to harden up after they did all the wheel cylinders and brake lines but now I think that was a wasted ripoff charge to me because it's obvious it wouldn't harden up because of the leaky brake line flange..

Sorry Pete hijacked your thread again. I can see this going to fair trading if they don't oblige but I don't want the car to go back to their workshop after the state I got it back(Inside and out).

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stinky
Posted 2016-07-23 4:06 AM (#517405 - in reply to #510084)
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That's just a horror story Matt, nothing went right with that work they did. It's too easy for mechanics to just wipe their hands when there work isn't satisfactory enough.
Worse thing is even if they offer to fix it for you, you really wouldn't want them to hey.
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