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stellarrestorations
Posted 2020-03-18 6:17 PM (#595730 - in reply to #520208)
Subject: Re: Restoration of a Junkyard Rescue 1956 Fireflite



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Fireflite56
Posted 2020-04-15 11:46 PM (#596910 - in reply to #520208)
Subject: Re: Restoration of a Junkyard Rescue 1956 Fireflite



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The body is painted!



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Fireflite56
Posted 2020-06-04 11:23 PM (#599271 - in reply to #520208)
Subject: RE: Restoration of a Junkyard Rescue 1956 Fireflite



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The trunk lid is being painted, which proves to be quite the challenge when you have 60+ years of debris between the layers to try to clean out. At the same time the board for the underside of the trunk is being templated and cut based on the original. Can anyone confirm with 100% certainty or proof that the color of the original material for a Detroit-built DeSoto was a grayish color? Were they oversprayed? There is definitely no paint under the hinges and appears to be none under the insulation, which indicates it would have been oversprayed. It's our theory that the brownish color is from age and that it started out more as a gray with possible overspray, but I don't have a lot of evidence for that besides a short glimpse of gray material on a '55 Plymouth in the "Wishes on Wheels" video on Youtube. Any evidence supporting a theory is appreciated.





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57burb
Posted 2020-06-05 1:34 PM (#599296 - in reply to #520208)
Subject: RE: Restoration of a Junkyard Rescue 1956 Fireflite



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Car is looking terrific, David!

Some Mopars didn't get body-colored trunks, and that's what the '55 Plymouth assembly line shows in that film.

I dug through the dealership thread, and only found a '57 with the trunk open. It's a black and white photo... and a '57... so not definitive, but there doesn't appear to be any (body color) overspray on this car's trunk insulation.

I searched for 1956 auto show on pinterest, getty, and Time. Searched for Desoto dealerships. Lots of great photos, but none with the trunk open.

Every mat I've ever seen in person was just as brown on the top as the bottom, but the old photos do make it look gray. Maybe someone here has a mint low mileage original car that can shed some light on how it should look.


*edit, you may also want to go to the IMCDB and look up '55-'56 Desotos (and/or other Mopars). There are quite a few movies (from the period) that may have a brief shot of an open trunk. Jimmy Stewart was driving a nearly-new '56 Firedome in Vertigo...

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFrom=19...



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ronbo97
Posted 2020-06-05 1:59 PM (#599297 - in reply to #599296)
Subject: RE: Restoration of a Junkyard Rescue 1956 Fireflite


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The underside of Plymouth trunks was a grayish color that varied from a warm gray to a bluish gray color. Dodges, depending on the assembly location, were either body color or black. Senior models were body color. My 55 Desoto trunk underside is red to go along with the overall color of the car. Paint is original. The brownish oil cloth (I believe it was called) that was used as a silencer, was said to absorb paint as the underside was painted. Can't verify that.

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Fireflite56
Posted 2020-06-08 12:38 PM (#599412 - in reply to #599296)
Subject: RE: Restoration of a Junkyard Rescue 1956 Fireflite



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57burb - 2020-06-05 12:34 PM Car is looking terrific, David! Some Mopars didn't get body-colored trunks, and that's what the '55 Plymouth assembly line shows in that film. I dug through the dealership thread, and only found a '57 with the trunk open. It's a black and white photo... and a '57... so not definitive, but there doesn't appear to be any (body color) overspray on this car's trunk insulation. I searched for 1956 auto show on pinterest, getty, and Time. Searched for Desoto dealerships. Lots of great photos, but none with the trunk open. Every mat I've ever seen in person was just as brown on the top as the bottom, but the old photos do make it look gray. Maybe someone here has a mint low mileage original car that can shed some light on how it should look. *edit, you may also want to go to the IMCDB and look up '55-'56 Desotos (and/or other Mopars). There are quite a few movies (from the period) that may have a brief shot of an open trunk. Jimmy Stewart was driving a nearly-new '56 Firedome in Vertigo... https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?resultsStyle=asImages&yearFro...

 

I did check out the "Wishes on Wheels" video on YouTube to reference the Plymouth and paused at the same spot your stills are taken from. That car uses small strips of insulation/silencer that are near-black in color, but it's also hard to say if a 1955 Plymouth is the same as a 1956 DeSoto in terms of that material color. I can say with 100% cetainty that the underside of the lid on a '56 DeSoto was body colored if it was a Detroit-built car whereas the Los Angeles-built cars were all charcoal gray on the underside. In fact, one of the photos shows a photo laying on it of the unrestored state. The paint color I do not question, just the insulation/silencer material color. I also believe that the insulation/silencer was installed before the lid was painted as original lids show no-paint under that material and the hinges, meaning it may have absorbed some amount of overspray that could alter the color. We have an original pink trunk lid that has that material intact that appears to be a brownish color, same as my white car appeared before removal, but is that the original color or has that changed due to age and/or light-colored paint that has seeped in?

Checking out Vertigo would definitely be a good suggestion to see if he opens the trunk. I'm overdue to watch it anyways.

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56D500boy
Posted 2020-06-08 2:34 PM (#599422 - in reply to #599412)
Subject: RE: Restoration of a Junkyard Rescue 1956 Fireflite



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Not trying to confirm/deny anything here. I have for some time collected photos of 55-56 Mopar trunks to see what they were like regarding the mats, the side linings and the trunk linings. I am really not sure when the sound deadening trunk lid lining was applied but it never seems to have any paint overspray on any of it. At least from the factory.

Here are two of the pertinent photos. The first one is a local car and I know that when the photo was taken, that is what it looked like (more or less when it left the factory). By 1957 they change the shapes of the sound deadening and filled in all the areas, not just part.

I did try some of the "waffle weave" material sold by REM but I returned it:

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=66960&...



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Fireflite56
Posted 2020-07-29 12:56 AM (#601450 - in reply to #520208)
Subject: Re: Restoration of a Junkyard Rescue 1956 Fireflite



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Only a little work has been done to the car in the past couple months, but today the trunk lid was painted. That only leaves the front clip needing paint yet.



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57burb
Posted 2020-08-01 6:39 PM (#601573 - in reply to #601450)
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Looking great. Don't slow down, the fun part is ahead!
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