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matte
Posted 2016-11-26 4:54 PM (#527225)
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Sometimes I like to freshen up the Australian thread just to keep it rolling along so I'll share this.

I needed to remove my fuel sender and the thank is still in place.. I have a crap summer flu and was not thinking straight or didn't think ahead. I turned the lock ring and pulled the sender out. The next thing was the pretty fuel waterfall I had hitting the concrete floor. I could get back under there to put the sender back in because I'm lying on the floor and the fuel was flowing over the length of the tank. Tried to catch as much as I could with buckets until it went under the level.

FIRST CLASS IDIOT!



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grunau
Posted 2016-11-27 7:53 AM (#527256 - in reply to #527225)
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If you were the only one in the garage/shop at the time.... then it never happened.....Deny everything!...Admit to nothing!....and I.... was never here.
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wizard
Posted 2016-11-27 8:40 AM (#527258 - in reply to #527225)
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There's something positive Matte - at least your garage floor is cleaned now and eventual stains on your clothes might be more easy to wash out.

Nice that you share this with us, I bet that we all had "duh moments" that we perhaps better keep to ourselves

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ttotired
Posted 2016-11-27 4:47 PM (#527287 - in reply to #527225)
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Fuel spill = get the broom and start scrubbing

The fun one is thinking the fuel tank is mostly empty and undoing the straps to find its not as empty (or light) as you thought

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60 Imp
Posted 2016-11-28 6:33 AM (#527338 - in reply to #527225)
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matte - 2016-11-27 6:54 AM

Sometimes I like to freshen up the Australian thread just to keep it rolling along so I'll share this.

I needed to remove my fuel sender and the thank is still in place.. I have a crap summer flu and was not thinking straight or didn't think ahead. I turned the lock ring and pulled the sender out. The next thing was the pretty fuel waterfall I had hitting the concrete floor. I could get back under there to put the sender back in because I'm lying on the floor and the fuel was flowing over the length of the tank. Tried to catch as much as I could with buckets until it went under the level.

FIRST CLASS IDIOT!



Matte..you idiot...........
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1960fury
Posted 2016-11-28 7:02 AM (#527341 - in reply to #527338)
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no, a #1 idiot would have been lying under the tank smoking a cigarette.
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FwdLk56
Posted 2016-11-28 7:58 AM (#527343 - in reply to #527225)
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i've seen that almost done!
i went to leave the garage and he asked where i was going, "you honestly don't think i'm going to stand here while you pull a tank with a cigar in your mouth, i'll be back when i know the coast is clear"...
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GregCon
Posted 2016-11-28 9:05 AM (#527349 - in reply to #527343)
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I don't know about Down Under but here in the USA you can toss a lit cig into an open pan of gasoline and the gasoline will extinguish the cig. Smoke away, boys!

(Just don't light up the cig)
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FwdLk56
Posted 2016-11-28 9:33 AM (#527352 - in reply to #527225)
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can't say as i've ever tried that...
but yeah, heard that before, it's the "fumes" that are flammable, not the "liquid"...
still the same, i'm not going to stand five feet away from a smoker dropping a tank containing both liquid AND fumes...

granted, they also say to "watch for static shock" when filling up the tank, i've been shocked four inches from the tank inlet while refilling and i'm still here, lol...
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GregCon
Posted 2016-11-28 3:21 PM (#527394 - in reply to #527352)
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I'm not saying I'd do it either lol. But my old friend Ron....he'd sit over a pan of gasoline cleaning parts for hours with a cig in mouth. He'd drop it in the gas when it came time to put it out. Every time. Never blew up. It was a source of great amusement. He's still alive, BTW...
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Beltran
Posted 2016-11-28 7:42 PM (#527427 - in reply to #527225)
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Since were sharing... I crawled under the Hemi and found the leak that I wanted to fix. It was coming from around a head stud. So I started to remove the head stud to put some sealant around it and just as I get it out, I remember that the studs on the hemi go into the water jacket... so now I have a high pressure coolant spray shooting out of the hole and no way to get a bucket underneath it to catch it. I am soaked in coolant trying to get the stud back in the hole which for some reason I cannot thread now...

I screamed for my son until he finally heard me came into the garage and got the oil drain pan so I could catch some of this. .. Lack of planning....
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2016-11-30 10:40 PM (#527592 - in reply to #527427)
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I watched a gas station blown off the face of the planet, scouring the entire
block of buildings in the process. Two first class idiots decided to have a butt
while pumping gas. Their wives were barbequed in the back seat, unable to
escape the fireball.

A well ventilated pan of gas may not ignite and actually put out a match or
cigarette like water, but some level of fumes and the equation changes. I've
never had much interest in figuring out exactly where that change occurs.
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60 Imp
Posted 2016-12-01 7:33 AM (#527622 - in reply to #527592)
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Sounds like the boys got the Air fuel mix right. There was probably other contributing factors, like someone dipping or filling the tanks?

That must have been something to see Doc. Shame about the poor buggers who got kilt.

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GregCon
Posted 2016-12-04 9:38 AM (#527846 - in reply to #527622)
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I agree that I'm not about to find out just where the two intersect...but I think the fact is (probably) that a cig is not burning hot enough to ignite gasoline. It takes the heat of an open flame such as a match or lighter. If you told me they had lit up the cig while pumping...that's a whole other story. Or maybe they were just using their cell phone while pumping lol.
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GregCon
Posted 2016-12-04 9:42 AM (#527847 - in reply to #527846)
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According to the boys at Google, a cig is around 400 Deg C while sitting and 900 Deg C during a drag.

Gasoline has an ignition temp of under 300 Deg C...so that argues 'for sure' you are gonna have an explosion each and every time.

But since I've witnessed it done innumerable times (a lit cig doused in gasoline) I know there must be some considerable wiggle room in those numbers.

400 Deg C is pretty darn hot.....I have a hard time believing a lit cig is burning that hot.
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matte
Posted 2016-12-04 6:54 PM (#527882 - in reply to #527847)
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When I was young I used to work in the automotive paint supplies. I was over at a mates place in the back yard and I was having a cig near a bowl of automotive thinners. He freaked but I told him I could put the cig out in it, which I did and it went out..

Another time I when I was still working at the same automotive paint supplier, I was mixing up car paint for a regular panel beater client. He walked into the small enclosed tinting room with a cig burning. As I was running out the door, I told him to get out and definitely don't suck on it.

It has a lot to do with the density of fumes and the size of the area.. Large amount of fumes in a large area definitely not good. Small amount of fumes in an enclosed area just as bad.

Anyway now that I'm older I would never be near a cig and fumes.. I even worry about my automotive work light generating heat and igniting with fumes!!! I vent as much as possible!


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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2016-12-05 2:30 PM (#527948 - in reply to #527622)
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60 Imp - 2016-12-02 4:33 AM
That must have been something to see Doc. Shame about the poor buggers who got kilt.

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I am a big advocate for freedom and personal choice. But what
some do not connect the dots on with this concept is the responsibility
that comes with freedom.

Those idiots CHOSE to smoke. They CHOSE to light up while pumping
petrol. Their wives ALSO CHOSE to be involved with men who smoked,
men who made choices like lighting up while pumping petrol .... they
reaped the harvest of those choices they made. I believe Darwin had
some thoughts on this subject ....

Yes, it was quite the sight. I was about a block and a half away when
the first exposion occurred. I ran toward the fireball as more fire and
explosions happened. It was too hot and raging to do anything about.
We civilians just watched and kept others from getting too close. The
Fire Dept. showed up, but did not have the foam petrol-fighting equipment
needed. That showed up later. It burned for hours.
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Powerflite
Posted 2016-12-05 11:22 PM (#527981 - in reply to #527948)
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I still have a couple gallons of bad gasoline that I collect in a fuel can in my garage. I don't know what to do with it. Fortunately, it isn't much of a fire hazard because it is pretty hard to ignite because of how old it is. But I want to get rid of it. What should I do with it?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2016-12-10 12:44 AM (#528328 - in reply to #527981)
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I have a similar can that will soon be used to ignite the burn pile
out back at "the farm". This time of year (we have about 3" or snow
on the ground) I can burn without the local fire authorities getting
excited.
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GregCon
Posted 2016-12-11 12:18 PM (#528419 - in reply to #528328)
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Well, P-flite, since you are in California, I see no reason you can't simply pour it into the ground. In California, a very ecologically conscious state, it is recognized by those in charge that pouring used motor oil or old gasoline into the soil is simply returning it to the very ground from whence it sprang. If that's not 'green' and organic, I don't know what is!
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Ray Bell
Posted 2017-01-07 4:51 PM (#530718 - in reply to #527225)
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Old fuel might be good for parts washing...
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EricDownunder
Posted 2017-01-09 12:22 AM (#530863 - in reply to #527225)
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This reminds me of a sales rep that used to call into work, as he was doing a repair on the fuel sender unit or something like that fuel spilled onto his old fashioned wqorhlight bulb igniting it immediately, apart from some really bad burns to he right arm and right side of his body he managed to get out before his classic car garage and tools etc burnt to the ground, he was very lucky!
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Ray Bell
Posted 2017-01-09 1:41 AM (#530869 - in reply to #527225)
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The old guy in Spokane who was resplining pickup axles to fit A-bodies was a fit man for someone of 86...

He played tennis every day, but mostly he fiddled around in his workshop in his old grease-laden overalls. One day he was using the oxy torch and the clothing ignited when he got the flame too close.

I no longer have a source of shortened axles...
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oldefar
Posted 2017-02-12 5:52 PM (#533853 - in reply to #527225)
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Fumes (gas) and just a single spark is what is igniting the fumes from gasoline. Gasoline has an initial boiling-point at atmospheric pressure (on the ground, where you stand) at a temprature of 35 degrees Celsius (95 degees Fahrenheit). Water boils at 100 degrees Celsius (212 degrees Fahrenheit). At 35 degree C/95 degree F the fumes (gas) will start occuring from the gasoline. A cigarette is glowing, not making sparks. Therefore the glow of a cigarette may not be hot enough at a limited temprature. But a spark is, because a spark is made from friction. Friction between electric poles, the flintstone that is used to ignite (light) your cigarettelighter wether it is a gasoline lighter or a gas lighter, the igniter (lighter) that you use to light your BBQ that is filled with gas, and have a "beak"/ "pipe" on its end and where the gas is lit by a shorage between the electric poles at its end. Even smashing a couple of rocks together makes a spark (friction again). etc., etc.

More tankers (tank ships transporting different kind of fluids, also likquid gas like i.e. propane) than I can count have been blown off the face of the earth (read sea) because of fumes (gas) have been ignited. By the sparks from a cigarette-lighter to even static electricety (things being rubbed together). The rubber-hoses for the "butterworth" being used to clean the oiltanks with high pressure water have always been a problem because static electricety. Gasoline is made from crude-oil. When a tanker carry crude-oil, special heating coils (steam) are used to heat the crude to approx 90 degrees C (approx. 200 degrees F) in order to keep it likquid. If the temprature sinks, the crude-oil will turn into asphalt (the pavement on your roads). The fumes from the crude-oil is the most dangerous fumes that are, Consernig explosions or danmage to you brain. Perhaps that's why my brain is all screwed up

The Norwegian shippingcompany Bergersen Tankers used to be the largest tanker company in the world. 2 of their largest ships were blown off the surface of the earth in the Atlantic Ocean somewhere outside the South American cost just a few months between the explosions. The ships were among the company's largest. Both of them of some 285.000 tons (metric) deadweight. As for the first one that expoded absolutely nothing was found. As for the second one, one single man of the crew was found almost dead after 5 weeks drifting on the ocean on a rubber raft.

I will try to post a picture of one of the tankers I have worked on, just to try to show you the size of these ships. This one was only 256.000 dwt. It took 5 minutes to walk along deck from stearn to bow. It was almost 1/2 (one half) kilometer long. The picture is taken by me when entering this ship for the first time (signing on) in Shellhaven, London.

Sorry, I guess I went a little further than jus the spilled gasoline

From an old sailor that's probabely been around the world more times than most people have been around their Hometown

oldefar

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