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Powerflite
Posted 2017-06-26 11:05 AM (#542887 - in reply to #542520)
Subject: Re: '57 New Yorker Coupe



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I finished cleaning and repairing the cowl seam this weekend. I then sprayed rust converter inside there and put red oxide primer/sealer on top of that. I will then paint it black in there just to color match so you don't see the red under the seam. After I hammer the seam back down, I will probably remove most of the paint from that area to start with a fresh coat of primer. I REALLY need new windshield rubber! When is Steele Rubber going to get on the ball to make us something? That is the biggest disappointment working with these cars, is the lack of good rubber. The 2 piece things are too tight and not a great solution anyway.



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Powerflite
Posted 2017-07-02 2:28 AM (#543337 - in reply to #529650)
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I am thinking of using these hubcaps on the car with Diamondback whitewall radials.



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KcImperial
Posted 2017-07-02 8:51 AM (#543351 - in reply to #529650)
Subject: Re: '57 New Yorker Coupe



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Those 1966 Chrysler hubcaps are so close in design to the 1959 Imperial hubcaps. I think they will look great on your New Yorker.
Nice touch with the New Yorker crest in the center.
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Powerflite
Posted 2017-07-02 10:52 AM (#543359 - in reply to #543351)
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Thanks. I see ads for '59 Imperial hubcaps that are 15". Did they use 15" wheels on the '59 Imperial?
My second choice for 15" hubcaps would be the '55 New Yorker cap. The '56 is too smooth for my taste.



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KcImperial
Posted 2017-07-02 2:44 PM (#543373 - in reply to #529650)
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The best I understand is that a few early production 59's had 14 inch wheel but the majority had 15 inch.
That '55 cap looks nice. I've thought about using '56 Imperial hubcaps on some of my 58's that have disc brakes. You're right about them looking too smooth though.
That's why I like that '66 cap. It is basically a '59 Imperial cap without that heavy (gaudy) gear toothed inner ring.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2017-07-02 3:18 PM (#543374 - in reply to #543359)
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Why not use stock 57 NY'er caps ? They are great looking !
57-59 300 caps are great too, as are 57-58 Imperial ? Are you
trying to get 15" ??? That is the down side of the aforementioned.

I tend to see the more upscale cars as looking silly if they are
modified to have "sportier" updates. It works better on Plymouths
and Dodges, but not so much with DeSotos and Chryslers. 57
NY'er just about tops the list of the finest Forward Look design
ever conjured up. Hard to change anything and have it look better.

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Powerflite
Posted 2017-07-02 3:55 PM (#543377 - in reply to #543374)
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I completely agree with you Doc. I love the original caps and would prefer to use them, but I can't stand 14 inch wheels. And 14 inch isn't compatible with the disc brakes I want to use. So I am looking for the next best thing.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-07-02 10:44 PM (#543395 - in reply to #529650)
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I got some originals that I don't need anymore. They are 99% flawless.  They are I think one of the top 3 designs for FW cars.

Definately better than the 58-59 ones.   I dont like the reverse dog dish style of imperial/300's 

 



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Powerflite
Posted 2017-07-03 3:15 AM (#543412 - in reply to #543395)
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Thanks. If I can figure out how to reliably use 14" caps on 15" wheels without spending a fortune, I will hit you up for them.

I wasted most of my day on Saturday extracting this cowl piece from my Windsor Parts car. It looked pretty good when I started, but by the time I got it out and cleaned out the rubber stuff in it, this is how it ended up. This parts car was the most rust-free car I have seen, and yet this rusts from the inside-out because of that rubber stuff they put in there on bare metal. Just enhances the rust process. So I will have to patch up my cowl with clean metal instead.

This hand-held sand blaster from Harbor Freight has come in handy to clean out the cowl drains & other pockets that I can't reach with sand paper. If you use a fine screen filter, you can sweep up the sand afterward and re-use it.



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Powerflite
Posted 2017-07-23 10:10 AM (#544663 - in reply to #529650)
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After taking a wire wheel to the inside lip of the cowl, it revealed quite a bit of rust. I was hoping to fix it with the cowl from my parts car, but that was a dead end so I formed a piece of metal to the proper shape and patched it in. It is mostly done now so I can move on to painting everything and replacing the dash pad.



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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-07-23 11:15 PM (#544702 - in reply to #529650)
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I think I will be doing something similar everything looks good on the outside but once you get in there I think all these cars are gonners in that area.
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Powerflite
Posted 2017-07-30 12:17 PM (#545167 - in reply to #544702)
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Yes, unfortunately so. I am a little afraid to look at the cowl on my DeSoto.

I got the firewall sealed. I'm looking forward to getting this thing painted and put back together. The roof is actually white, but it is so filthy now that it looks gray.



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Powerflite
Posted 2017-09-10 12:27 PM (#548098 - in reply to #529650)
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No more 14" wheels for this car. I didn't buy gold iridite calipers for the car, the rebuilds just came that way. Still have to bend up all the lines.



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Powerflite
Posted 2017-09-13 9:01 AM (#548270 - in reply to #529650)
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I really like the way this hubcap looks on here. I whitewashed the old whitewall tire using photoshop. Now I just need 4 good New Yorker emblems for all of them.



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big m
Posted 2017-09-13 11:21 AM (#548278 - in reply to #529650)
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I like the look of those caps too, Nathan.

You've come a long way on the car so far!

---John
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KcImperial
Posted 2017-09-13 9:07 PM (#548313 - in reply to #529650)
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Hubcaps look great. '66 300, right? They always throw me off for a second because they are so close to the '59 Imperial in design
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Powerflite
Posted 2017-09-13 11:01 PM (#548324 - in reply to #548313)
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Thanks John, it's progressing slower than I expected it to, but moving right along now. Almost ready to paint the engine bay.

Yes, Don, '66 Chrysler 15" disc brake hubcaps that are similar to the '59 Imperial and later 300 cars, only I have replaced the centers with '56-'57 New Yorker emblems.
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Powerflite
Posted 2017-09-20 4:48 PM (#548813 - in reply to #529650)
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I purchased a set of Scat 440 H-beam rods to couple to my 440 rod/392 hemi pistons that should give me a nice 11:1 compression with the aluminum heads. But it took me what seemed like forever to find a decent machine shop to narrow the big end width by .016" and change the bushings. The 440 rods came with new .990" bushings and I need .984". I thought about honing the pistons to .990, but pretty much everyone advised me against doing that; so I just had the bushings in the rods changed. I ended up using L&B ConRod Service in Anaheim. I probably should have guessed that I would need to go to the happiest place on earth to get it done. Now I need to gather everything up and get it re-balanced to the new weight. Then I should be ready to start putting the motor back together.

After measuring everything up, I found out the previous offset bushed 426 hemi rod, big ends were machined to the wrong size at .984" width. Stock 392 big end width is at .994". I am thinking that a .01" extra gap between the rods would have caused a drop in oil pressure and probably would have prematurely destroyed the rod bearings if they got any side play on them. Not good. The condition of the old bearings in the motor seem to confirm this as they looked pretty beat up with very little miles on them. I don't know why they did that, but that issue, their 30% excess weight, and the higher compression (when used with smaller chamber aluminum heads) is why I didn't end up just using the 426 rods that were in the motor.



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Powerflite
Posted 2017-09-22 11:51 AM (#548949 - in reply to #529650)
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I bought an NOS radio foot switch for the car. I checked and it does have the port for it on the back of my radio. Yay! I don't see any kind of locating area on the floorpan though. They must have just screwed it into wherever it looked good.



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KcImperial
Posted 2017-09-22 1:17 PM (#548958 - in reply to #548949)
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Here's a couple pics from two of my Imperials if it helps. (I don't know how different it will be for a New Yorker)
They both align horizontally above the indention in the floor pan.
Vertically, they are a little different compared to each other.
This switch does not get a cut out in the carpet like the dimmer so I doubt the exact placement would very noticeable.
I would worry more about placing it so it's operation won't interfere with the dimmer or the brake pedal.



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KcImperial
Posted 2017-09-22 1:19 PM (#548959 - in reply to #529650)
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I think I got horizontal and vertical backwards in that message. I have problems with left and right too...
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Powerflite
Posted 2017-09-22 1:51 PM (#548967 - in reply to #529650)
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The pictures help a lot, thanks! Now I don't have to guess too much.
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