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Leadfoot1000
Posted 2018-01-13 11:29 PM (#556188 - in reply to #556175)
Subject: Re: '57 New Yorker Coupe



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I was under the impression that New Yorker valve covers were gold from the factory. Mine are silver but the engine has been previously rebuilt, I assumed they were painted silver out of convenience during the rebuild. So you have seen non repainted New Yorker engines and they were always silver? When I search for New Yorker engines, there are some gold covers, but mostly they are silver. Hard for me to determine without seeing an original one.
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-01-14 2:19 AM (#556191 - in reply to #529650)
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Greg, I didn't use a Ni rod for the simple reason that I don't have a stick welder. All I have is Mig and Oxy-Acetylene. I have never used the Ni wire on cast iron until now, but it really does a great job. I just finished welding it up today and it turned out great. I was going to run brass over the top of it, but it worked so well that I am going to try it without the brass and see how it goes. I have no reason to believe that it will leak at all. The welds came out really nice and also really hard. It is a form of hardened stainless when finished welding so grinding the welds is a little more time consuming, but not too bad. One odd thing was that the length came out too long when I used the other 392 with 331 heads compared to the aluminum heads. So I had to grind the part smaller and tack weld it together on the aluminum headed motor instead. It was a significant amount like 1/8" difference.

Steve, yes, New Yorker valve covers are silver from the factory. Lots of owners copy the gold 300 look though because it looks great that way. One thing that I am unsure of is if a dealer installed the dual quad option on a New Yorker, would they then have painted the covers gold to match the air cleaners or left them silver? My guess is they probably would have left them silver. But it doesn't really matter much to me though. I am painting them to match because it looks good that way.


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big m
Posted 2018-01-15 1:02 PM (#556304 - in reply to #529650)
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Looks great!!!!!
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57burb
Posted 2018-01-15 6:00 PM (#556337 - in reply to #556304)
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Re: Valve cover and air cleaner gold paint, from Wayne Graefen's '57 300 C handbook:

SEMI GLOSS CHRYSLER BRONZE
- Valve covers
- Air cleaners + filter can side wing nuts
NOTE: The factory supplied paint for these was literally a bronze powder to be mixed with clear enamel. Factory drawing #1821398 states to paint assembly "Gold C9090C per process standard #807"
NOTE: Air cleaners were made by AC Corp. and painted by them prior to shipping. It is not uncommon on an authentic original car to find a different shade (usually lighter) of paint on the air cleaners than that of the valve covers which are believed to have been painted either by Chrysler or another outside supplier.



As mentioned, this is 300 specification only. Most (all?) New Yorkers were built with silver valve covers and a single black air cleaner. I have never seen a NYer with the optional dual quad intake, so I can't comment on how those engines were finished.
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-01-15 9:19 PM (#556355 - in reply to #556191)
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Powerflite - 2018-01-14 2:19 AM

Greg, I didn't use a Ni rod for the simple reason that I don't have a stick welder. All I have is Mig and Oxy-Acetylene. I have never used the Ni wire on cast iron until now, but it really does a great job. I just finished welding it up today and it turned out great. I was going to run brass over the top of it, but it worked so well that I am going to try it without the brass and see how it goes. I have no reason to believe that it will leak at all. The welds came out really nice and also really hard. It is a form of hardened stainless when finished welding so grinding the welds is a little more time consuming, but not too bad. One odd thing was that the length came out too long when I used the other 392 with 331 heads compared to the aluminum heads. So I had to grind the part smaller and tack weld it together on the aluminum headed motor instead. It was a significant amount like 1/8" difference.

Steve, yes, New Yorker valve covers are silver from the factory. Lots of owners copy the gold 300 look though because it looks great that way. One thing that I am unsure of is if a dealer installed the dual quad option on a New Yorker, would they then have painted the covers gold to match the air cleaners or left them silver? My guess is they probably would have left them silver. But it doesn't really matter much to me though. I am painting them to match because it looks good that way.

Very nice, Nathan. What shielding gas did you use for the mig?
Greg
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Leadfoot1000
Posted 2018-01-15 10:05 PM (#556357 - in reply to #529650)
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Hey Burb, thanks for confirmation of the clarification on NY’er valve cover color. Silver is fine with me. If I ever added dual quads I would probably use gold like Nathan is. It’s tempting though as the single WCFB doesn’t seem to flow enough air to satisfy the beast.
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-01-16 1:38 PM (#556398 - in reply to #529650)
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Thanks John and Danny for the info. Greg, I used the same 75% argon, 25% CO2 that I use with the regular wire. That mix was recommended by the manufacturer of the nickel wire too. Steve, you can purchase a newer ('59-'65?) AFB with a small air horn on it that's a much larger size from a 413 motor. That would wake that motor up quite a bit. I think the later carbs are larger than the earlier ones so probably best to look at carbs from the mid '60's.

I made the base plate for the trans mount and found that the '70 Ford Galaxy inner bearing race that I yank from the front rotors (for the Scarebird conversion) makes a nice centering ring for the '62-'65 trans mount. I need to figure out the proper height for it to sit before I finish the gusseting and attach the mount. I also purchased the proper 3-groove water pump pulley as I happened to see it for sale on Ebay, and I got the alternator mounted to the *mostly* correct position on a modified bracket, with spacer.



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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-01-16 3:08 PM (#556407 - in reply to #529650)
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looks darn good. what distributor fits under there?
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57burb
Posted 2018-01-16 5:54 PM (#556416 - in reply to #556407)
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-01-16 10:20 PM (#556426 - in reply to #556407)
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Thanks, I'm using the stock small block electronic distributor with an HEI module mounted to the bottom of it. Fits just like the original. But my high power coil is harder to find a good place for. I will probably make a mount for it off the back of the rear carb. Today I futzed with adjusting the rotating motor mounts and found that you can really move the motor around quite a bit. Now I have about 5/8" clearance to the steering box and 7/16" to the right control arm mount. I am thinking that the left mount I used will sink a little over time so I am going to leave it there, but I ended up just using mounts that had centered bolts in them instead of the offset versions. I started out with the right side all the way up, and the left all the way down. That was a miserable combination.
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