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Spring Special 58 DeSoto Firedome Sportsman
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-03-05 10:00 PM (#595288 - in reply to #595241)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Thanks for the pep talk, Ralf.
Yeah, I guess we are all a little crazy, (my wife tells me that all the time).
Right now I am working on, installing disc brakes on the car.
Maybe I will get off of my lazy butt this weekend, and do some more work.



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1960fury
Posted 2020-03-06 7:39 AM (#595299 - in reply to #589438)
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58DeSoDodge59 - 2019-10-28 7:41 PM

mikes2nd - 2019-10-27 11:46 PM

look 8 inches on top in front of the passenger torsion bar. the vin should be there.



The only thing in that location is the engine number.
It reads LS35508 .


So, against popular believe, there are indeed matching numbers engines for our cars? Does that apply for unitbodys too?

Great work, btw.
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Powerflite
Posted 2020-03-06 3:07 PM (#595318 - in reply to #539736)
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Location: So. Cal		In the '60's, the numbers that were put onto the frame were shipping order numbers. Those can only be traced back to the VIN & motor through the buildsheet. I'm not sure when they started doing that, but my '67 Barracuda is like that. Chrycoman discussed this on here before so if you look up the post he made about it, you can figure it out.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-03-12 10:21 PM (#595540 - in reply to #595288)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		To install AAJ brakes on the rear.

Step 1 - Cut down the backing plate, so you can still use the seal.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-03-12 10:47 PM (#595541 - in reply to #595540)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Step 2 - Install plates as provided.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-03-12 10:53 PM (#595542 - in reply to #595541)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Step 3 - Remove drum from the hub. Drill and install new studs (provided) into the hub.
Paint whatever color you want.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-03-12 11:00 PM (#595543 - in reply to #595542)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Step 4 - Install new rotor and caliper with hub.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-03-12 11:04 PM (#595544 - in reply to #595543)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		These brakes fit nicely inside the original 14 inch wheels.



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Powerflite
Posted 2020-03-12 11:26 PM (#595547 - in reply to #539736)
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Location: So. Cal		Thanks for the instructions. I will likely do this in the future on some of my cars as well. But that can't be right as you have them. The bleeders are upside down. You will need to rotate those brackets to get the bleeders pointing upward.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-03-13 10:11 PM (#595586 - in reply to #595547)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Of course you're right. It's just that I had all of the parts painted and ready, so I just put them on without
thinking about it, (or reading the instructions). I should have moved on to Step 5 - Hooking up the lines and
bleeding the brakes. I would have figured it out then. You know, on the original brakes, the wheel cylinder is
at the top-center. That's probably what I was thinking about.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-03-13 10:28 PM (#595587 - in reply to #595586)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		This is what they look like on my 59 Dodge.
It looks like I'm gonna haveta paint the calipers on this one.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-03-22 9:13 PM (#595892 - in reply to #595543)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Step 5 - Remove everything you just did, and install it correctly, as per the instructions.



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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-03-23 1:01 AM (#595894 - in reply to #539736)
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what do you use for a distribution block? with rear discs? Adjustable?

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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-03-23 5:36 PM (#595933 - in reply to #595894)
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mikes2nd - 2020-03-23 1:01 AM

what do you use for a distribution block? with rear discs? Adjustable?




Everything else in the brakes is the same as original. Same blocks, same single master cylinder.
If it's good enough for my 59 Dodge, then it will be good enough for this 58 DeSoto.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-03-23 5:42 PM (#595934 - in reply to #595933)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Well, it's time to go work on my car.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-03-31 12:34 AM (#596273 - in reply to #595934)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		A little bit of front end work.



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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-03-31 12:46 AM (#596274 - in reply to #539736)
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been there done that... its nice once its nice and clean..
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-03-31 11:07 AM (#596286 - in reply to #596274)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		I love this Corona thing. It's like a really long vacation. It gives me a lot of time to work on this car.
It's time to start scraping the bottom of the body.

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Posted 2020-03-31 2:55 PM (#596295 - in reply to #539736)
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Location: So. Cal		I expected to see a lot more activity on here with everyone working on their projects, but I've been a little disappointed. Good to see you are taking advantage of it like I am.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-03-31 3:53 PM (#596298 - in reply to #596273)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		My brand new leaf springs have such a big bow, that I can't even install my rear shocks. I had to put some
straps around them, but I still can't move them far enough to install the shocks. I can't wait to put the body
back on and put some weight in the trunk.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-04-07 9:40 PM (#596561 - in reply to #596298)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		I'm working on the bottom of the car. Scraping all of that undercoating off, so I can see where the rust is.

No, that body is not touching the floor.

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Posted 2020-04-07 10:01 PM (#596562 - in reply to #539736)
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Looking good. If you gotta be quarantined, that's an awesome project to help pass the time! (although I have no doubt you'd be working on it regardless). Enjoying watching your progress.
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Posted 2020-04-07 10:42 PM (#596563 - in reply to #539736)
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you sir are a madman but it works
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Posted 2020-04-08 1:55 AM (#596567 - in reply to #596561)
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Location: Finland		..Aahh ..to see that body dangle in straps all rusty and dusty makes my chest all warm.....what a journey ahead.
Yes we have to think positive about the corona thing...of course easy to say until you get it yourself.
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Posted 2020-05-08 10:59 PM (#597974 - in reply to #539736)
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Location: So. Cal		I measured the hole spacing for the spring special trim on my trunk and came up with these measurements. Does this agree with what you have on your car? I have to replace my trunk lid so I want to be sure I get them back on in the right places.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2020-05-09 11:10 PM (#598020 - in reply to #597974)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Nathan, Did you get your IBM card yet? I am anxious to know if it is really a spring special. It looks like somebody added these bars, for some bling. Here are the measurements my car has.



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Posted 2020-05-09 11:24 PM (#598022 - in reply to #539736)
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Location: So. Cal		No, I haven't yet. I should though, but yes, I was thinking the same thing, that's why I asked you to check your measurements. The holes are far enough off that it seems likely to have been added. Thanks for your help.
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Posted 2022-03-09 4:35 PM (#620131 - in reply to #595288)
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58DeSoDodge59 - 2020-03-06 5:00 AM

Thanks for the pep talk, Ralf.
Yeah, I guess we are all a little crazy, (my wife tells me that all the time).
Right now I am working on, installing disc brakes on the car.
Maybe I will get off of my lazy butt this weekend, and do some more work.



Is there available complete discbrake kit to use?
I've try find something (Front and rear) kits to my 58 Firesweep, but normaly those are builded by many different parts.
Because it's not so easy to find parts in Finland ... it's very expensive to buy parts just for testing.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2022-12-22 2:44 PM (#626507 - in reply to #620131)
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58DeSoDodge59 - 2020-03-06 5:00 AM

Thanks for the pep talk, Ralf.
Yeah, I guess we are all a little crazy, (my wife tells me that all the time).
Right now I am working on, installing disc brakes on the car.
Maybe I will get off of my lazy butt this weekend, and do some more work.



Is there available complete discbrake kit to use?
I've try find something (Front and rear) kits to my 58 Firesweep, but normaly those are builded by many different parts.
Because it's not so easy to find parts in Finland ... it's very expensive to buy parts just for testing.



I do not know. I used AAJ brakes on this car.
Good luck to you. I hope you find what you need.

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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2022-12-22 2:51 PM (#626508 - in reply to #596561)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Well guys, Life happened. I had to put this thing on hold for a while, but now I'm getting back to it.
Where was I ? Oh yeah, scraping the bottom and welding the rockers and wheel wells.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2022-12-26 10:37 PM (#626587 - in reply to #626508)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Inner rocker passenger side.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2023-02-12 10:48 AM (#627536 - in reply to #626587)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Pass. wheelwell



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Posted 2023-02-12 11:05 PM (#627556 - in reply to #539736)
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Location: So. Cal		Nice job, that's great progress! Remember to paint inside the joints before you weld it back together as that will prevent rust from progressing there again. I just use red epoxy primer in there.
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