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motorobo |
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Member Posts: 8 | Hello, Anyone converted from drums to disk brakes? How difficult was it and did you think it was worth the cost / effort? My brakes are working fine but I always have the concern in the back of my mind with the small single brake master cylinder.... Thanks Ryan | ||
Mopar1 |
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Expert Posts: 3031 Location: N.W. Fla. | What car? I converted my '60 Plym using '77 NYer disc spindles. Also added a dual M/C that bolted on the same as the original did. | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | AAJ or Scarebird are options, search on those. | ||
BigBlockMopar |
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Expert Posts: 3575 Location: Netherlands | You can always install a dual Mc if you find that makes your car safer. Regular checks and proper maintainance goes a long way in preventing issues with single master cylinder brake systems. That said, I've 'upgraded' most of my cars with 1973 Chrysler disc rotors and calipers, b-body brackets and adapter plates. My '60 NY, '62 NY, '65 300 and '73 Dart all use stock '73 Chrysler disc brakes and parts, exect for the homemade adapter plates to mount the caliperbrackets to the spindles. Here's a post on my site where I converted to discs on my '62 Chrysler NewYorker wagon. https://www.bigblockmopar.nl/2010/01/1962-chrysler-wagon-discbrake-c... | ||
57chizler |
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Expert Posts: 3774 Location: NorCal | If the single pot MC is your only concern, it can be swapped to a tandem MC and keep the existing brakes. Disc brake swaps are a separate issue and I believe Scarebird is the best bang for the buck. https://scarebird.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=64 | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | I went with scarebird, but youll need to go to 15 inch rims, and most stock hubcaps are 14 inch. It was a very easy install and looks great and super strong. if you are doing the stock 14 inch go with AAJ, its 75$ more but not that bad. | ||
motorobo |
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Member Posts: 8 | Thanks for the reply's, its for a 1956 Dodge Royal Lancer. Was interested in how much work it truly is and if its worth it. thanks for the links. Ryan | ||
51coronet |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 360 | Hemis are harder due to clearance if you are changing the master cylinder to a dual. Wedge type engine bays have plenty of room | ||
cjm88 |
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Member Posts: 11 | I just converted front to disc on a 59 royal lancer, went with AAJ kit so i could retain the factory 14s and hub caps. super easy install, took a couple hours start to finish. I ordered the brackets from AAJ and bought rest of parts local, for the conversion bracket and brakes im like $500CDN+/- i think, could have saved some money but i went with all top brand components. Went with an E-body 8" master/booster setup with bracket from right stuff detailing, bolted in nicely with plenty of clearance, that was another $300CDN+/- shipped. As for how it works, i cant say as the car is still on stands waiting for the rear end to go in. | ||
rockerarm |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 873 Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE | I've considered converting my 61 Fury to front discs. My concern is maintaining the 14" wheels and if my original power brake booster will sufficant. | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | AAJ brakes are your real option. | ||
Beltran |
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Expert Posts: 1730 Location: Michigan | I did mine with AAJ. I posted the entire process on the forums. Look for my post in the search features. It has a lot of pictures and instructions. | ||
71charger_fan |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 667 Location: Frederick, MD | I used Scarebird on my '55 Plymouth Plaza wagon. Everything was easy as could be except the spindle nut. I had to file the grooves deeper to get the cotter pin through. No big deal though. Probably less than an hour to do both sides. I used a '70s Mopar manual disc brake master cylinder and a proportioning valve for a '70 AAR 'cuda I got from therammaninc.com. I made up all new hard lines. At first I used regular 3/16" steel lines, but switched to the copper-nickel brake tubing. Wish I'd started with that. (Plaza brake disc installed.jpg) (Plaza brake distribution valve and lines.jpg) (Plaza castle nut modification.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Plaza brake disc installed.jpg (110KB - 221 downloads) Plaza brake distribution valve and lines.jpg (128KB - 249 downloads) Plaza castle nut modification.jpg (72KB - 217 downloads) | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9648 Location: So. Cal | rockerarm - 2017-08-28 7:01 AM I've considered converting my 61 Fury to front discs. My concern is maintaining the 14" wheels and if my original power brake booster will sufficant. Yes, AAJ is the best option for 14" wheels. You original power booster works great for these disc kits. That is what I am using on my '58 DeSoto and it stops excellent. | ||
hemidenis |
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Expert Posts: 3887 Location: Northen Virginia | I contacted Scarebird by phone for the possibility to do a dual caliper set up and they weren't very interested. With this set up we could use the original rims and hubcaps. As it is right now, you need a new set of rims and tires for 15" rim adaptation using this kit which it is not a cheap option. Edited by hemidenis 2017-09-02 12:34 AM | ||
Greg P. |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 769 Location: Oley, PA | Has anyone tried the SSBC kit? The thing that appeals to me is that for one price, this kit seems to include all the parts I'd need, including the master cylinder, with no need to source additional parts. They claim it works with 14" wheels, which is good too. http://ssbrakes.com/i-10092992-1957-1962mopar-front-4-piston-power-... I watched this video of an installation on a 1967 Chrysler and I was impressed at how easy it looked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfsm9Cs_sWY The kit only goes back as far as 1957, so it wouldn't be much help to the original poster with his 56, but I'm curious if any of us has used this kit. (SSBC Kit F141116864.jpg) Attachments ---------------- SSBC Kit F141116864.jpg (47KB - 246 downloads) | ||
51coronet |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 360 | 71 charger fan, I am concerned about your plumbing at your combo valve. Something doesn't look right unless you are using a single port master cylinder? | ||
71charger_fan |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 667 Location: Frederick, MD | It looks off because the line from the front-brake port (rearmost port) into the combo valve got cut out of the photo. It comes in at the top of the combo valve at the green fitting that's partially visible in the photo. | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9648 Location: So. Cal | It looks fine, but why didn't you use the second outlet port on the combo valve instead of splitting one side to a distribution block? Also, what diameter rotor does the Scrarebird kit use? Is that from a '71 Ford Galaxy like on the '57-up conversions? Edited by Powerflite 2017-09-13 11:18 PM | ||
71charger_fan |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 667 Location: Frederick, MD | The distribution block came as part of the assembly and the two were already plumbed together. That was the only hard line I didn't have to make. The front rotors are Ford Probe and the calipers are Chevy S10 4WD pieces. I don't know off hand what diameter the rotors are. I did have to massage a few high spots on the insides of the wheels to eliminate slight interference with the calipers. | ||
71charger_fan |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 667 Location: Frederick, MD | I went back into my Rockauto order history and found that I used Wagner BD125274E rotors. The site doesn't list the diameter for this rotor, but checking other make/model rotors that cross reference to this, they show 258mm/10.16" diameter. | ||
1961plymouthfury |
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Expert Posts: 2633 Location: Minor Hill, TN | That is still on my mind . My previous '61 front brakes were converted to disc brakes | ||
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