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Showman
Posted 2017-09-23 6:32 AM (#548998)
Subject: Decoding IBM Build Card - 1959 Desoto


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Hello,

Does anyone have the ability to "decode" an IBM build card. I received one from FCA Historical Services but they cannot decode due to staffing constraints etc.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Steve
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-09-23 10:20 AM (#549012 - in reply to #548998)
Subject: RE: Decoding IBM Build Card - 1959 Desoto



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Showman - 2017-09-23 6:32 AM
Does anyone have the ability to "decode" an IBM build card. I received one from FCA Historical Services but they cannot decode due to staffing constraints etc. Steve


Steve: There are a few folks here that can help you. However, they are not physic so you will have to at least post a photo (<250kB in size) of the build card so they can see the codes and perhaps break it down like I did for my IBM build card:

You might want to read through this thread: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=64614&...

And, if you need help posting a photo, this primer: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=64340&...

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59 explorer
Posted 2017-09-23 7:54 PM (#549028 - in reply to #548998)
Subject: Re: Decoding IBM Build Card - 1959 Desoto


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Also include a picture of your data plate which can be cross referenced to the card

The data plate for a sweep is by the passenger's side hood hinge

Others are on the radiator splash shield down low to the right or by the driver's side door hinge
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Showman
Posted 2017-09-25 7:43 AM (#549108 - in reply to #549012)
Subject: RE: Decoding IBM Build Card - 1959 Desoto


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Here is the build card.



(scan@actonglass.com_20170925_080613.jpg)



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56D500boy
Posted 2017-09-25 8:33 AM (#549110 - in reply to #549108)
Subject: RE: Decoding IBM Build Card - 1959 Desoto



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Showman - 2017-09-25 7:43 AM
Here is the build card.


You might as well have posted a micro-dot. That scan is too small.

Somehow scan it so it comes out just less than 250 kB here. Maybe then it will be readable.

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Showman
Posted 2017-09-25 2:17 PM (#549133 - in reply to #549110)
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Is this one better?



(scan@actonglass.com_20170925_080613.jpg)



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59 explorer
Posted 2017-09-25 2:58 PM (#549138 - in reply to #548998)
Subject: Re: Decoding IBM Build Card - 1959 Desoto


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The easy stuff for you

1204 car made on December 4, 1958

454 Desoto (4) Fireflite (5) 4 door hardtop (4)

102218 the 2218th Fireflite Your title should read M451 102218 with M=1959 4=Desoto 5=Fireflite 1=made at Jefferson in Detroit

XXX Pearl White top/body/sweep

364 Gray cloth and vinyl interior


Your data plate based on the production date, should be on the radiator splash shield down low to the right, lower left of it should be a collection of letters with numbers thereafter like J2 which is the outside mirror and so forth. Please copy/provide and we can attempt to cross reference it to the IBM card.

Top line of data plate should match top line of the IBM card
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-09-25 3:22 PM (#549141 - in reply to #549138)
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The trim code is 384 not 364.
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Showman
Posted 2017-09-25 3:56 PM (#549146 - in reply to #549138)
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Here is the data plate:




(dataplate.jpg)



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56D500boy
Posted 2017-09-25 4:08 PM (#549147 - in reply to #549141)
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Sorry, I just trimmed it a bit so it fits the screen better (I was surprised that 235 kB was so large on the screen).

59 explorer - 2017-09-25 2:58 PM
1204 car made on December 4, 1958
454 Desoto (4) Fireflite (5) 4 door hardtop (4)
102218 the 2218th Fireflite Your title should read M451 102218 with M=1959 4=Desoto 5=Fireflite 1=made at Jefferson in Detroit
XXX Pearl White top/body/sweep

Top line of data plate should match top line of the IBM card


As 59 explorer predicted, it ooks like things match your IBM card well.






Edited by 56D500boy 2017-09-25 4:14 PM




(DesotoBuildPlate.jpg)



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Showman
Posted 2017-09-25 4:30 PM (#549149 - in reply to #549147)
Subject: Re: Decoding IBM Build Card - 1959 Desoto


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Thank you.

Do you know what the other codes on the data plate refer to?

For example J2 4K N6 etc.

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59 explorer
Posted 2017-09-25 8:12 PM (#549156 - in reply to #548998)
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Correcting my typo, 384 is the gray cloth & vinyl interior

Working my way thru the rest

J2 is the outside mirror(s) To be advised

N6 Solex Glass

F9 stone deflector

C4 would have been the aluminum insert between the chrome lines

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Chrycoman
Posted 2017-09-28 2:42 AM (#549333 - in reply to #548998)
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Well, to go through the card -

01 - Route - (not used)
02 - Group - (not used)
03 - |
04 - | = Foreign Special ?? Make Order No. - (not used)
05 - |
06 - |
07 - WCB Gate - 075 - ??
08 - Sort Code - 085 - ??

09 - 7 |
10 - 1 | - Region = 71

11 - 3 - |
12 - 6 - |
13 - 8 - | - Dealer Number - 36862
14 - 6 - |
15 - 2 - |

16 - 0 - |
17 - 0 - | - Dealer Order NUmber - 002
18 - 2 - |

19 - 4 - Model - DeSoto
20 - 5 - Series - Fireflite
21 - 4 - Body Style - 4 door Hardtop

22 - 3 - |
23 - 8 - | - Trim - 384
24 - 3 - |

25 - 0,7 - Paint - Upper Colour - X - Pearl White
26 - 0,7 - Paint - Lower Colour - X - Pearl White
27 - 0,7 - Paint - Insert Colour - X - Pearl White
28 - 1 - (Unknown)
29 - Transmission - (not used) - Torqueflite standard, no options
30 - Power Equipment -
301 - Power steering
302 - Power brakes
304 - Power windows

31 - 2 - Accessory Group 2
32 - 7 - Tops - 317 - Rear seat speaker
33 - 1 - Antenna - 331 - Dual rear antennas
34 - 3 - Heater/AC -343 -
35 - 9 - 359 - Stone shield
36 - 2 - 362 - Swivel front seats
37 - 1 - 371 - Dual exhaust
38 - 1 - 381 - Licence plate frame
39 - (unknown) - (not used)
40 - Mirrors -
402 - Left, outside manual mirror
404 - Inside prismatic mirror
409 - ??
41 - (unknown) - (not used)
42 - Roof Moulding - (not used)
43 - Instrument Panel - (not used)
44 - 3 - 443 - Radio
45 - Heavy Duty Shocks & Springs - (not used)
46 - 6 - 466 - Solex, tinted all windows
47- Custom ?? - (not used)
48 - Moulding - (not used)
49 - Sun Visor - (not used)
50 - (unknown) - (not used)
51 - Wheel Covers - (not used)
52 - (unknown) - (not used)
53 - 3 - 533 - Axle ratio
54 - 9 - 549 - Generator
55 - Batteries - (not used)
56 - Export Equipment - (not used)
57 - Miscellaneous - (not used)

58 - 1 - |
59 - 5 - | - 15 - Tires

60 - 1 - Car Service - 601 -??
61 - 1 - Drive - 611 - ??
62 - Route - (not used)
63 - Special Order (not used)

64 - 1 -|
65 - 2 -|
66 - 0 -| - 1204 - Scheduled Build Date - December 4, 1958
67 - 4 -|

68 - 2 - 682 ???
69 - ? - Model - 69? -
70 - 9 - 709 -??

71 - 1 -|
72 - 0 -|
73 - 2 -| - Car Serial Number - 102218
74 - 2 -|
75 - 1 -|
76 - 8 -|

77 - 8 -|
78 - 1 -|
79 - 4 -| - Motor Code - 8140
80 - 0 -|

The (not used) means no holes were punched in the card for that column.

(unknown) means I do not know what the heading is for the column - cannot make out what was printed on the card.

The ?? means I do not have any description for that sales code (yet).

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Showman
Posted 2017-09-30 11:16 AM (#549475 - in reply to #549333)
Subject: Re: Decoding IBM Build Card - 1959 Desoto


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Wow....that's a lot of decoding. Thank you so much for your time!

Steve
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59 explorer
Posted 2017-09-30 2:44 PM (#549487 - in reply to #548998)
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Steve: Does Bill's translation match your car?

With respect to your outside mirror(s)-do you have just the driver's side manual one?

Do you have the prismatic inside one?

Do you have a dealer plate on the trunk? Or noted on the owners manual?

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Showman
Posted 2017-10-07 1:11 PM (#549932 - in reply to #549487)
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There is only a drivers side - remote mirror - adjustable from inside the car.

Yes....prismatic mirror inside.

No dealer plate on the trunk.

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Showman
Posted 2017-10-07 1:15 PM (#549933 - in reply to #549932)
Subject: Re: Decoding IBM Build Card - 1959 Desoto


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Also, the car came with 15" tires. I understand that normally it was 14" is that correct. The hubcaps that came with the car were not original.

I have a set of hubcaps, but they do not fit the rims (picture below)....were there more than 1 style of hubcap in 1959.

Attached is a picture of what I purchased.



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Chrycoman
Posted 2017-10-08 3:04 AM (#549960 - in reply to #548998)
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The 1959 DeSoto used 14" tires and 14" wheel covers on 14" rims. The wheel covers in the photo are 14" which is why they won't fit the 15" rims you have.

What you must remember is not to assume everything on your car is as it was when the car was built. Nor should you assume that parts on the build card or original bill of sale not on the car now were not on the car when it rolled off the line. Many things can happen to a car over the years, and the tastes and preferences of the owner(s) can also change over the years.
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Showman
Posted 2017-10-08 4:38 PM (#549985 - in reply to #549960)
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Yes....I understand that for sure....What I am wondering is if there were other hubcaps produced for the 59's other than the image I was showing?

Thanks
Steve
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59 explorer
Posted 2017-10-09 7:15 PM (#550060 - in reply to #548998)
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The wheel cover you show was standard on the Firedome and the Fireflite, optional on the Firesweep which had dog dishes standard

The Adventurer had it's own wheel cover which was the standard wheel cover with a pointed hub over the emblem, gold anodized

No other factory wheel were offered

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