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Jdm214
Posted 2017-11-01 1:30 PM (#551452)
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Is anyone interested in making an offer on a 57 Dodge D 501

It has been in several magazines.

Please email me posting for a friend
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-11-01 2:29 PM (#551456 - in reply to #551452)
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Jdm214 - 2017-11-01 1:30 PM
Is anyone interested in making an offer on a 57 Dodge D 501
It has been in several magazines.


Photos? Links to the magazines? We need something.

There too many D501 "clones" out there to know a real one from a fake without some evidence/providence.

Just sayin'



Edited by 56D500boy 2017-11-01 5:42 PM
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mstrug
Posted 2017-11-01 5:07 PM (#551463 - in reply to #551452)
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LostDeere59
Posted 2017-11-01 5:59 PM (#551464 - in reply to #551463)
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Swept57
Posted 2017-11-02 10:42 AM (#551490 - in reply to #551456)
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56D500boy - 2017-11-01 2:29 PM

Jdm214 - 2017-11-01 1:30 PM
Is anyone interested in making an offer on a 57 Dodge D 501
It has been in several magazines.


Photos? Links to the magazines? We need something.

There too many D501 "clones" out there to know a real one from a fake without some evidence/providence.

Just sayin'

:)


There are plenty of Coronets that have 354's slapped in them, but they don't even come close to qualifying as a clone. The only one that I know of that is a pretty good clone is the sedan Louie Poole built. He got a lot of it right and actually used a real D-501 block (out of a convertible), but left it an automatic.

BTW, it is Lee Smith's D501 that he is referring too. It has been featured in a number of magazines.



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56D500boy
Posted 2017-11-02 11:21 AM (#551492 - in reply to #551490)
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Swept57 - 2017-11-02 10:42 AM
BTW, it is Lee Smith's D501 that he is referring too. It has been featured in a number of magazines.


That being the case, the original poster ("John" at feb141977@yahoo.com) with one whole post to his name is VERY unlikely to be selling this car on behalf of the owner. Seems more likely to be a Nigerian scam. The real car would go to Mecum or Barett-Jackson.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/atomic_blondes/sets/72157621284804548/

http://racersreunion.com/john-h-strickland/gallery/73048/lee-smiths...

"Lee Smith's 1957 Dodge D501



Lee has owned this since 1959 and this is the most original of the only 4 known left in existence.100 of the factory built race cars were to be used for NASCAR or Drag Race use. Dual quad 354 Hemi w/ close ratio 3 speed and gear options 2.3 through 6.17:1 were available. "

From HAMB: https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/d501-dodge-354-hemi.8045...

"Arnie Beswick ran a 57 Dodge D501 in 57. He sold the car to Lee Smith and Lee sold the car, and eventually bought it back. Lee still owns the car, as far as I know, and it is on loan to the Don Garlits museum in Ocala, FL. The car is red and white and 3 speed on the column. Lee Smith was a successful racer and won the Winter Nationals once and raced Hemi's, one of Lee's cars was a Belvidere wagon. Lee owned the Car Shop in Moline, IL "

Lots of previous D501 talk here:

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=36883&...



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Swept57
Posted 2017-11-02 11:47 AM (#551494 - in reply to #551492)
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I know all about Lee's car. I have been to his shop several times. He related the full history of it to me. He also offered to sell it to me a couple of years ago. Lee is not an auction type guy, although it will likely end up making the auction circuit after it sells.

Lee's car IS one of the most original. I have been studying 501s for years and I am aware of 8 still in existence, 5 sedans and 3 convertibles. The picture of the emblem you posted is one I took of the one from my sedan.

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56D500boy
Posted 2017-11-02 12:10 PM (#551498 - in reply to #551494)
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Swept57 - 2017-11-02 11:47 AM
I know all about Lee's car. I have been to his shop several times. He related the full history of it to me. He also offered to sell it to me a couple of years ago. Lee is not an auction type guy, although it will likely end up making the auction circuit after it sells.


So this John is legit and he is acting as Lee's selling agent?

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Swept57
Posted 2017-11-02 12:19 PM (#551499 - in reply to #551498)
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I think John is a friend of Lee's making inquiries on Lee's behalf. I probably wouldn't characterize him as his selling agent. Lee doesn't care too much about computers!
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ABloch
Posted 2017-11-02 2:25 PM (#551510 - in reply to #551452)
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So what kind of money are we talking about David? Gotta be pushing six figures I assume?
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Swept57
Posted 2017-11-02 3:04 PM (#551513 - in reply to #551510)
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ABloch - 2017-11-02 2:25 PM

So what kind of money are we talking about David? Gotta be pushing six figures I assume?


I am guessing so. At the time Lee offered it to me, he had been recently offered $75K. He wasn't quite ready to sell then, and I had already committed to mine so we didn't pursue further negotiations. Difficult to say with such a unique piece!
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Powerflite
Posted 2017-11-02 5:16 PM (#551519 - in reply to #551452)
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When you start calling a car a "piece" you know it is no longer a car you can enjoy. Just sell it to a museum. Us little guys would ruin it by driving it.
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-11-02 5:25 PM (#551521 - in reply to #551519)
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Powerflite - 2017-11-02 5:16 PM
When you start calling a car a "piece" you know it is no longer a car you can enjoy. Just sell it to a museum. Us little guys would ruin it by driving it.


LOL
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Swept57
Posted 2017-11-02 5:39 PM (#551522 - in reply to #551519)
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Powerflite - 2017-11-02 5:16 PM

When you start calling a car a "piece" you know it is no longer a car you can enjoy. Just sell it to a museum. Us little guys would ruin it by driving it.


I agree. It will likely end up a trailer queen or maybe in a museum. I learned about the D-501 when Lee had his on loan to Don Garlit's museum of drag racing.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2017-11-03 1:32 PM (#551545 - in reply to #551522)
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Powerflite - 2017-11-02 5:16 PM

When you start calling a car a "piece" you know it is no longer a car you can enjoy. Just sell it to a museum. Us little guys would ruin it by driving it.


I agree. It will likely end up a trailer queen or maybe in a museum. I learned about the D-501 when Lee had his on loan to Don Garlit's museum of drag racing.


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When I lived in Seattle, I had a number of friends who built drag cars
that they used as drivers. They had a singular mindset that if it is a car,
it had to be built balls-out to go fast. They were constantly trying to get
me to build my cars the same way. Can you imagine trying to make a
58 Fireflite convertible competitively fast ? What a joke.

I had the chance to drive some of their cars, and oh yeah ... they would
scoot right along. But they were about as comfortable to drive as a phone
booth, crossed with some gym equipment. Any fun of going fast was quickly
lost in the drudge of running errands, parking lots, and around town traffic.

I suspect a car like this D501 would be a similar amount of work and
drudge to drive as a regular car. Going fast loses its excitement quickly,
and then all you are left with is a strenuous driving experience in a car
you are worried about breaking or wearing out. A wonderful and unique
piece of period history, but probably not the most practical or fun car from
the period to drive.
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tberd62
Posted 2017-11-03 7:58 PM (#551564 - in reply to #551452)
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I agree Doc. I restored a 1957 Mercury M355, the equivalent of a Dodge D501. It was not fun to drive and soon sold it off even though it was a rare as hens teeth. I'll keep my 57 Fireflight 4Dr Ht and cruise in that all day long.
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Mike McCandless
Posted 2018-10-24 9:09 PM (#572311 - in reply to #551452)
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Just took deliver of this today
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-10-24 9:13 PM (#572312 - in reply to #572311)
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Mike McCandless - 2018-10-24 9:09 PM

Just took deliver of this today


Should have known. Congratulations.

Naturally, we need lots and lots of cool photos to drool over.

Please

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Powerflite
Posted 2018-10-24 9:21 PM (#572313 - in reply to #551452)
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I agree. I would like some motor shots & suspension shots. Should probably start a new thread though. Congratulations! That's a great addition.
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Mike McCandless
Posted 2018-10-24 9:48 PM (#572314 - in reply to #551452)
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I won't have it out to the house for awhile, but when I do, plenty of shots will follow
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1959 Belvedere Conv
Posted 2018-10-24 10:46 PM (#572316 - in reply to #551452)
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Mike, Tuck the D501 in Bed for the night! If it were me I would sleep in it tonight so I could wake up in it and say 'It wasn't a Dream!" Great Score!! It is in good hands for sure!

John
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Swept57
Posted 2018-10-25 7:31 AM (#572338 - in reply to #572311)
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Mike McCandless - 2018-10-24 9:09 PM

Just took deliver of this today :)


Mike, I was hoping you would pick Lee's 501 up for your museum. People will get a chance to see it again! Glad it all worked out.
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Hyfire
Posted 2018-10-25 6:35 PM (#572359 - in reply to #551452)
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Great car and it sounds like it's got a great home.

Should be some neat things in the IBM card. I know this car had some touch-ups in the engine compartment, but was mostly original. If I could be so brazen to make a suggestion... I'd be very careful with cleaning and detailing. Many collectors want perfect, and "authentic" isn't perfect. You don't want to do anything you can't undo. I hope that doesn't come across as arrogant.

Awesome to see the change in focus Mike. Perfectly restored cars are wonderful, but they're glorified versions of what they rarely were. Car's like this are truly special in an entirely different way. I think original (or mostly original) cars carry so much more weight. A collection of both styles of cars really is ideal.

Congrats! Good to see!

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