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56D500boy
Posted 2017-12-17 12:28 PM (#554482)
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I'm hoping that there are more out there and that folks will post them up here. (Please!!??)

These are the ones that I have found so far, starting with a pre-FL 1954 Dodge done in Nov. 1952 that showed way more fin than the final production version. The photo labels tell the story.

PS: Check that height of the rear window on the 57 "Chrysler New Yorker" (looks close to what ended up as an Imperial) - all the way to the "C" pillar (of A, B, C and D)

Source of the 54, 55 and 56 Styling Photos = Oct. 2010 Issue of Collectible Automobile available from the publisher, eBay, Amazon, etc.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Collectible-Automobile-Magazine-October-2010...





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Posted 2017-12-17 4:03 PM (#554499 - in reply to #554482)
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56D500boy - 2017-12-17 11:28 AM

I'm hoping that there are more out there and that folks will post them up here. (Please!!??)

There are actually quite a few of them out there! All are definitely worth looking at and show how the designs evolved. You see alot of elements that were ommited and used in later years, and you also see a lot of designs that weren't made but still had certain features which influenced the style of final production vehicles.  

57 300 Clay Concept. Note that he hardtop is more of a Dodge/Plymouth hard top rather than the Chrysler/Desoto style roofline:

The evolution of the 1960 Chrysler. Check out that unique canopy on the two in the bottom right corner! Very mid-60's looking:

The evolution of the 1961 Chrysler:

This is a early concept for the 60 Desoto: 

This is a 61 Dodge that is very close to the actual production model. Check out that rear window treatment!: 

 

 

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Posted 2017-12-17 4:04 PM (#554500 - in reply to #554482)
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Add this one to my first post ^^^ while "EDIT" was still available to me.

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Posted 2017-12-17 4:27 PM (#554502 - in reply to #554499)
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drosera88 - 2017-12-17 4:03 PM
This is a early concept for the 60 Desoto: 



Um...did somebody get a sneek peek at the competition? 1959 Pontiac:

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Posted 2017-12-17 9:59 PM (#554515 - in reply to #554502)
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Well the Pontiac front end definitely looks a lot better than the DeSoto exercise!! I'm very partial to 59 Pontiacs though!
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Posted 2017-12-17 11:30 PM (#554521 - in reply to #554482)
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I suspect those two Dodge photos from 1952 are for the "new" 1955 line. When Exner was named head of styling in 1952, apparently the 1954 models were done, given that the 1954 models would go into production the next year.. All four Chrysler Corp makes received new grilles, taillamps, instrument panels - the usual for the second year of a body. The photos show more than just new grilles, etc. Looks like new sheet metal all around including the roof and windows, or a year three redo for a body. This is what Exner was facing in 1952 - updating the 1954 models for 1955, something he believed was not enough.

One of the first moves Exner did was convince Chrysler management that they needed more than just a new skin and roof on the cars, they needed completely new, and up to date, styling including wraparound windshields. The 1955 bodies were not totally new, however, but were a major reworking of the 1953 bodies which in turn were based on the 1949 bodies. Ford and GM did the same, although GM did a third year redo of the 1955 Chevrolet/Pontiac body for 1957 when Plymouth and Ford really had new bodies.

After management was convinced what had to been done for styling, they agreed Plymouth should offer a V8 engine for 1955. Not sure when Chrysler decided to offer Powerflite in a Plymouth. Plymouth was the last American-built car to offer an automatic transmission, 4½ years after Chevrolet and 3½ years after Ford and Studebaker Champion.

One thing about those two Dodge photos is that you can see how they were going to do the wheelbase stretch from the Plymouth wheelbase to the Dodge. They were going to move the rear wheels back but leave the passenger space alone. Those rear wheels are so far back they are behind the greenhouse. The Exner proposals for 1955 moved the rear seat back in all Dodge models including Dodge's hardtops and convertibles, unlike the 1953-54 Dodge which had those models on the shorter Plymouth wheelbase.

The new postwar Chrysler Corp styling for 1949 was a major disappointment while the 1953 update was not much better. Chrysler was the #2 U.S. car manufacturer starting in 1936 with Plymouth the #3 make in the U.S. from 1931. In 1940 Plymouth production was 90,000 less than Ford. For 1949 Plymouth was about 267,000 behind Ford. And the other three Mopar makes weren't doing any better. Chrysler lost #2 spot for 1950 and Plymouth dropped to #5 in 1954. In 1940 Chrysler had 25.11% of the US market and Plymouth had 13.68%. For 1954 Chrysler Corp. had dropped to 13.13%, less than Plymouth's share in 1940, while Plymouth dropped to 7.26%. Ford Motor was at 30.62% and the Ford car at 25.31%.

Chrysler management knew that the 1955 models had to sell or the company would be considered one of the independent manufacturers and not the Big Three. And there was a possibility Chrysler could sink out of site.

Exner literally dragged Chrysler management and Engineering into the postwar era whether they liked it or not.


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Posted 2017-12-18 12:39 AM (#554524 - in reply to #554515)
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imopar380 - 2017-12-18 6:59 PM

Well the Pontiac front end definitely looks a lot better than the DeSoto exercise!!
I'm very partial to 59 Pontiacs though!


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It is a wonder, that if so many of these design study abortions made it to clay,
that management honed in on the designs that made it to production were rarely
from the ones that should have been culled. To my eye, the entire 59 line, with
the exception of the Imperial, look like the over-the-top or LSD-inspired design
ideas usually canned in favor of better designs. One might argue the same for
the 61 Dodges and Plymouths as well. Oh, to be a fly on the wall when those
decisions were being made ! I would love to hear those conversations and
understand how they were being made.
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-12-18 1:18 AM (#554526 - in reply to #554521)
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Looks like that Nov. 1952 clay study turned into the 54 Mayfair:





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Chrycoman
Posted 2017-12-18 7:35 PM (#554584 - in reply to #554526)
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That illustration is of a 1953 Dodge D43-2 (Regent) Mayfair hardtop which went into production in October, 1952. Which is why I suspect the styling mock up was intended for 1955. Taking the 1953-54 body and updating the sheet metal for the 1955 model year. Takes a least a year from approval to production to make and test sheet metal tools and dies.

The use of the 1953-54 models with revised sheet metal and new front and rear ends was what Exner fought against saying the only way to go was with a clean sheet of paper for the exterior styling. And, given the disaster for 1954 and the great success for 1955, Exner was right on the money.

Attached is a photo of the 1953 Dodge D43-3 Mayfair, introduced in April, 1953 and replaced the D43-2 (Regent) Mayfair. You can see how the illustrator took the production car and stretched it to give the long, low look of the competitors. In the early 1950's that was the norm for advertising materials at Chrysler of Canada.






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Posted 2018-02-21 10:45 AM (#558553 - in reply to #554482)
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More Clay Model Pictures Please!

I found another prototype emblem that still has dried clay on it. I would love to find a image with it!



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Posted 2018-02-21 5:46 PM (#558573 - in reply to #554482)
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For those of you really interested in styling from this period, I suggest you find this book. It shows sketches and clay concepts from every manufacturer.

https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Americas-Cars-Jeffrey-Godshall/dp/1...
ISBN: 1412711576



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56D500boy
Posted 2018-02-22 3:52 PM (#558631 - in reply to #558573)
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57burb - 2018-02-21 5:46 PM
For those of you really interested in styling from this period, I suggest you find this book. It shows sketches and clay concepts from every manufacturer.


Thanks. Used that link and found several good used copies available at various prices. I picked one that looked good and was close to me and bought it. Thanks.

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Posted 2018-02-22 8:43 PM (#558647 - in reply to #554524)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2017-12-17 11:39 PM
imopar380 - 2017-12-18 6:59 PM Well the Pontiac front end definitely looks a lot better than the DeSoto exercise!! I'm very partial to 59 Pontiacs though!
================================ It is a wonder, that if so many of these design study abortions made it to clay, that management honed in on the designs that made it to production were rarely from the ones that should have been culled. To my eye, the entire 59 line, with the exception of the Imperial, look like the over-the-top or LSD-inspired design ideas usually canned in favor of better designs. One might argue the same for the 61 Dodges and Plymouths as well. Oh, to be a fly on the wall when those decisions were being made ! I would love to hear those conversations and understand how they were being made.

If I remember right, wasn't Exner not involved with the design of the 59's due to a heart attack? I don't hate the 59's, they're just kinda 'ok' compared to the 57-58 and 60-61's. 

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Posted 2018-02-22 9:50 PM (#558651 - in reply to #554482)
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the 59's were signed off way before that. probably in 1954,

"In 1956, during the design of the 1961 models, Exner suffered a heart attack. He resumed work in 1957, working on the designs for the 1962 cars."

I don't think he was fully healthy was he after the heart attack?

this was when Ford and GM were stealing all these designs. they must have been freaking out going "darn have you seen the proposed 57 cars" in 1953-1954... You see how they kinda slapped fins on the 57's but I do admit the 56 and the 57's are nice looking cars, they didn't see the dual headlight designs and they weren't legal yet, so they didn't steal that. They tried a radical change in the 58's and i think that is the reaction to the FWL cars and they of course started slapping chrome/trim on it and they could do that easily without redoing the whole design.

GM pipeline was more conservative I think, Ford was just stealing everything it could im sure and obviously had a spy at both GM and Chrysler. the 58 ford was practically a total Desoto front grill rip off. I think Ford must have pissed Chrysler off greatly since they only ran it for one year as the rule was don't 100% steal designs.

The ford spy at GM really helped them on the 56 ford which is nearly a clone of the 56 Chevy.

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Posted 2018-02-22 11:19 PM (#558656 - in reply to #554482)
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Exner had his heart attack in late 1956 and returned to work sometime in 1957. He was named Executive Vice President on July 28, 1957. While he was away, Chrysler hired William G. Schmidt (formerly with Packard and Ford) to run styling. He was responsible for the 1958 models as well as the 1959 facelift. The 1960 and 1961 models were done under Exner and Schmidt as Schmidt was around until late May, 1959. Exner presented his S series (1962) styling proposal in May, 1959, when Schmidt was on vacation. Upon his return Schmidt found out what was going on and left Chrysler. Management approved the theme of the S series proposal and work went ahead on designing the new 1962 models.

Given the lead times, the totally new 1960 unibody models would go into production late summer of 1959 and thus had to be approved for production by mid-1958. The 1961 facelift would have been finalized in late 1959 and ready for production by July, 1960. The new 1962 models were all but ready to go by late 1959, but the decision to shrink the 1962 Plymouth and Dodge Dart threw everything out the window. The cost of designing, engineering and tooling a smaller body for the Plymouth and Dart resulted in the Chrysler and Imperial receiving facelifts (definning being priority #1) and the low-medium market 122" wheelbase Polara being dropped. They were working on a 1962 DeSoto but that was cancelled when the demise of DeSoto was announced in November, 1960.

One other stylist around during the Exner-Schmidt era was Dick Teague, formerly of Packard and then AMC after he left Chrysler. Teague did a DeSoto coupe in January 1959 that imitated the split 1959 Pontiac grille.

Interesting times at Chrysler in the late 1950's.
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Posted 2018-02-23 6:13 PM (#558718 - in reply to #558656)
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Chrycoman - 2018-02-22 10:19 PM While he was away, Chrysler hired William G. Schmidt (formerly with Packard and Ford) to run styling.

Is that maybe why Packard went with the Dodge-esque fin over fin design for their final year? 

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56D500boy
Posted 2018-02-23 6:47 PM (#558723 - in reply to #558656)
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Chrycoman - 2018-02-22 11:19 PM
One other stylist around during the Exner-Schmidt era was Dick Teague, formerly of Packard and then AMC after he left Chrysler. Teague did a DeSoto coupe in January 1959 that imitated the split 1959 Pontiac grille.


Probably this one?

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56D500boy
Posted 2018-02-23 6:54 PM (#558724 - in reply to #558718)
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drosera88 - 2018-02-23 6:13 PM

Chrycoman - 2018-02-22 10:19 PM While he was away, Chrysler hired William G. Schmidt (formerly with Packard and Ford) to run styling.

Is that maybe why Packard went with the Dodge-esque fin over fin design for their final year?



Then there is the roof line of the 58 Packard two-door hardtop. Looks familiar even to me.



And if you can ignore the tacked-on quad headlight bezels (over the single headlight 57 fenders), then we have something close to a 58 Desoto


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Posted 2018-02-24 2:42 AM (#558745 - in reply to #554482)
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William Schmidt left Lincoln-Mercury to become head of styling for the Packard-Clipper Division of the Studebaker-Packard Corporation. With this move, Edward Macauley, head of Packard styling since 1932, departed. Dock Teague became director of Packard Styling and Duncan McRae, from Ford, became director of Studebaker Styling. The contract with Raymond Loewy had eight years to go, but the contract was cancelled, with a suitable cash payment. 1956 was a disaster for Packard, production falling from 69,667 in 1955 to 13,432 in 1956. Actually, the last true Packard was built on June 25, 1956 and management decided it was fini for Packard. Studebaker-Packard had lost so much money they were in danger of bankruptcy. And both Packard and Studebaker contributed to the losses.

With the shut down of Packard, all the Detroit properties were sold off and it was decided Packard would live on, although not in Detroit, and would be based on the Studebaker. The new 1957 Packard Clipper started rolling off the South Bend line in December, 1956. With that, styling was cut back to only the Studebaker studio under McRae. Schmidt formed William Schmidt Associates along with Teague and a number of other now ex-Packard designers. They worked for Chrysler under contract from early 1957 to May, 1959.

Schmidt continued designing, although not cars, on his own after leaving Chrysler. Dick Teague went to AMC as assistant director of styling in September, 1959. He was shown the 1960 Rambler and thought it looked like it was chiseled out of marble. Another new AMC stylist standing beside him said "... it looks like a ruddy ordnance vehicle".

Anyway given all this, that DeSoto mock up is probably the one Teague was working on. He was head of the DeSoto studio before he left.

But Schmidt and Teague went to work for Chrysler in 1957 after working at Packard, so they were not the source of the fins and roof styling on the 1958 Packards. Someone working at the Studebaker studio must have come up with those ideas. Some have felt the 1958 hardtop roofline should have been used on the Lark. But the Lark was about a foot shorter than the 1958 so I doubt it would have looked right.

By the way, the add-on fins first appeared on the 1956 Studebaker Golden Hawk and then on all 1957 Studebaker Hawks. Studebaker and Packard sedans gained the fins for 1958 only, while 1961 was the last year for the Hawk fins. The 1957-59 Dodge fins were welded on with the joints covered up with trim. The Studebaker fins were attached with rivets, and the joints covered up with trim.

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Posted 2018-02-25 9:23 AM (#558793 - in reply to #554499)
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Posted 2018-02-25 12:10 PM (#558804 - in reply to #554500)
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Artists create a clay model of a design seems to look good to them. Then engineers come along and measure every little curve of each emblem in detail and with precision. Whereas, I bet the artists just eye-balled it and called it good. In their defense though, they didn't have the luxury of 3D CAD models to work from so everything needed to be based off the clay model, or else there would be no proof that it would work in the final product.

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Posted 2018-02-25 9:32 PM (#558821 - in reply to #554482)
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The 57 fwl were probably well known by all major producers by 54... Packard was desperate and prob had a little time to start incorporating parts of the fwl cars. They all knew the fwl cars were a huge deal and were going to hit in 57. Even gm was scrambling and put out the 58's blech... Ford and Packard both seemed to have stolen directly from the Desoto.
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Posted 2018-02-25 9:36 PM (#558822 - in reply to #558821)
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mikes2nd - 2018-02-25 9:32 PM Ford and Packard both seemed to have stolen directly from the Desoto.


At least for 58





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Posted 2018-02-26 4:51 AM (#558827 - in reply to #558822)
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When you talk about the competition finding out about Forwardlook, you must remember no one knew about what Chrysler was up to until the 1957 models were about to go into production. No one was expecting Chrysler to produce such a major change in direction of design, especially considering the recent Keller boxcars of 1949-54. The last of the boxcars were built in 1954 , just two years before the first 1957 Mopar cars started rolling off the lines. Also, no one knew about the Forwardlook styling in 1954 as the first proposal mock up was not presented to Chrysler management until November, 1954. THe whole 1957 Mopar line was designed and put into production in 22 months. Normally upwards of 48 months are spent going from a blank sheet of paper to cars rolling off the assembly line. The cut in time was the main reason the 1957 Chrysler product line had so many quality problems.

Magazines and newspapers would have received the earliest photos to use on announcement day while the competitors' stylists found out what Chrysler had done after the new cars started coming off the assembly line and being stored in the plants' storage yards.

I doubt that the 1958 Ford grille was taken from the 1958 DeSoto - they were both designed within the same timeframe. The 1958 Ford grille was actually taken off the Thunderbird, which was new for 1958 and used a grille evolved from the 1957 T-bird grille.




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Posted 2018-02-28 8:08 PM (#559022 - in reply to #558631)
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57burb - 2018-02-21 5:46 PM
For those of you really interested in styling from this period, I suggest you find this book. It shows sketches and clay concepts from every manufacturer.

https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Americas-Cars-Jeffrey-Godshall/dp/1...



Thanks. Used that link and found several good used copies available at various prices. I picked one that looked good and was close to me and bought it. Thanks.
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Got the book today.



It deals with 1950 to 1959 across the big three and AMC, Studebaker and Packard. It shows both the clay models, full-size prototypes and final production models. There are about 50 pages dedicated to the 1950-59 Chrysler corporation and its cars.

Here are some purposely bad images of the 55-59 Chryco/Mopar cars. Don't rely on these, buy a copy. The book is cheap and fun. (Just like the girls I used to go with...)



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I have started to read the 50's Design book from cover to cover and I have to say all of the manufacturers, including Chrysler Corp. definitely had uglier designs that never made the cut. Some of them are unbelievably weird and/or Fug-A-Lee.

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Interesting that all the wagon concepts had the full fins instead of the shortened fins that ended up on all the wagons. Wonder why they decided not to keep the full fins. I also like that rear visor on the 58 Chrysler, would have been nice if they kept that. 

As much as some people dislike the 59's, I always thought the Dodge was pretty cool looking; over the top in a good way and pretty mean looking in the front. That trim package on the bottom of page 67 looks really nice, I wish they went with that instead of just the single chrome spear. If I ever get a 59 Dodge I definitely want to try and replicate that! 

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57burb
Posted 2018-03-02 1:08 PM (#559104 - in reply to #554482)
Subject: Re: Forward Look Clay Styling Model Photos



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I don't have the June 1956 Rod & Custom magazine to scan, but this is a kustomrama article detailing the back-and-forth that George Barris had with some Detroit designers at the time.

Interesting read...

https://www.kustomrama.com/index.php?title=Detroit_vs_the_Customizer...
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-03-02 3:18 PM (#559110 - in reply to #559104)
Subject: Re: Forward Look Clay Styling Model Photos



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57burb - 2018-03-02 1:08 PM
I don't have the June 1956 Rod & Custom magazine to scan, but this is a kustomrama article detailing the back-and-forth that George Barris had with some Detroit designers at the time.


Thanks for that. I is an interesting read. That said, I would have to side with the Detroit designers. Case in point, Barris's 54 Sahara with it's integral trunk "spare" bump was compared to the 56 Lincoln Continental as evidence that the Detroit designers stole the idea from him (Barris). What George Barris would not have known was Lincoln had already been playing around with the idea of the trunk spare bump in the late 1940's as a possibility for the 1950 Lincoln. Obviously that didn't happen but they also obviously revived the idea when the design of the 56 Lincoln was going on - probably in around 1953 or 54, either way, independent of George Barris.





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56D500boy
Posted 2018-05-02 2:21 PM (#562688 - in reply to #559110)
Subject: Re: Forward Look Clay Styling Model Photos



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Thanks Dave. I just thought that these would be good here too.

hemidave - 2018-05-02 5:28 AM
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